RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Tim Tullis

See http://www.slipstick.com/exs/relay.htm To prevent SMTP relaying with
Microsoft Exchange Server

Tim Tullis
Director, MIS
Greater Lexington Chamber of Commerce
www.lexchamber.com
859-226-1625


-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally
sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need
to turn relaying off or configure it correctly.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything that tells me
how to track down the source of the message.  There does not appear to be
any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do I get the
message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I determine the source?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


hehe.
And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:


  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again



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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Roger Seielstad

Doesn't indicate anything having to do with relaying.

Most likely, it was spam addressed to invalid addresses at your domain, and
the reply-to address is invalid as well.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> RFC821
> "then it must construct an "undeliverable mail" notification 
> message and
> send it to the originator of the undeliverable mail (as 
> indicated by the
> reverse-path)."
> 
> This would seem to indicate relaying?  However, I have my 
> system setup to
> NOT relay.  I've even tested (per the faq)?  According to the 
> "telnet" test
> I'm good-to-go?  Am I missing something?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are 
> intentionally
> sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing 
> below. You need
> to turn relaying off or configure it correctly.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Computer Support Analyst
> Network Administrator
> BT Ignite eSolutions
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything 
> that tells me
> how to track down the source of the message.  There does not 
> appear to be
> any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do 
> I get the
> message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I 
> determine the source?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> hehe.
> And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Doh.. Sorry.
> 
> "3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty 
> originator, 
> A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a 
> delivery receipt.
> See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> FAQ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to 
> Postmaster.  Please
> take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating 
> from the inside
> but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?
> 
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
> 
> 
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again
> 
> 
> 
> _

RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Hunter, Lori

That will help today.  Tomorrow, 12 new ones will spring up in their place.

It's a losing battle, dude.  Look away; nothing to see here.

-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I just added them to my message filter.  

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


The source was generated by your server in response to a message that it
received from somwhere, with the Reply-To address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED], to which your server cannot complete delivery
of the NDR.

Elementary, my dear Watson.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:56 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything 
> that tells me
> how to track down the source of the message.  There does not 
> appear to be
> any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do 
> I get the
> message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I 
> determine the source?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> hehe.
> And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Doh.. Sorry.
> 
> "3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty 
> originator, 
> A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a 
> delivery receipt.
> See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> FAQ
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to 
> Postmaster.  Please
> take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating 
> from the inside
> but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?
> 
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
> 
> 
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Murphy, Brian

I just added them to my message filter.  

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


The source was generated by your server in response to a message that it
received from somwhere, with the Reply-To address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED], to which your server cannot complete delivery
of the NDR.

Elementary, my dear Watson.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:56 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything 
> that tells me
> how to track down the source of the message.  There does not 
> appear to be
> any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do 
> I get the
> message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I 
> determine the source?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> hehe.
> And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Doh.. Sorry.
> 
> "3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty 
> originator, 
> A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a 
> delivery receipt.
> See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> FAQ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to 
> Postmaster.  Please
> take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating 
> from the inside
> but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?
> 
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
> 
> 
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Andy David

Dr. Watson?  ;)


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


The source was generated by your server in response to a message that it
received from somwhere, with the Reply-To address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED], to which your server cannot complete delivery
of the NDR.

Elementary, my dear Watson.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:56 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything 
> that tells me
> how to track down the source of the message.  There does not 
> appear to be
> any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do 
> I get the
> message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I 
> determine the source?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> hehe.
> And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Doh.. Sorry.
> 
> "3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty 
> originator, 
> A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a 
> delivery receipt.
> See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> FAQ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to 
> Postmaster.  Please
> take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating 
> from the inside
> but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?
> 
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
> 
> 
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Roger Seielstad

The source was generated by your server in response to a message that it
received from somwhere, with the Reply-To address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED], to which your server cannot complete delivery
of the NDR.

Elementary, my dear Watson.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:56 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything 
> that tells me
> how to track down the source of the message.  There does not 
> appear to be
> any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do 
> I get the
> message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I 
> determine the source?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> hehe.
> And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Doh.. Sorry.
> 
> "3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty 
> originator, 
> A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a 
> delivery receipt.
> See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> FAQ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to 
> Postmaster.  Please
> take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating 
> from the inside
> but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?
> 
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
> 
> 
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again
> 
> 
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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Joyce, Louis

Good point Mr. East. I beleive you are correct there.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2001 16:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Sorry Mr. Joyce, I don't agree. Commercial email (unsolicited or not) is
coming into his domain, but he is not relaying. Instead, the spammers are
sending to invalid addresses within his domain and using invalid (or
unresolvable) return addresses.

So: 1) Spam comes in.
2) Exchange tries to bounce an NDR back to the return address.
3) The attempt fails after repeated attempts. 
4) Exchange generates the message showing that the NDR could not be
delivered to the return address in the message.

Of course, you could try to contact the senders, but why would they care?
Best thing to do is ignore the messages or blackhole the senders.

-- 
be - MOS



 Earth Army Recruiting Center: What are you, chicken? Buk buk buk! 


> -Original Message-
> From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are 
> intentionally
> sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing 
> below. You need
> to turn relaying off or configure it correctly.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Computer Support Analyst
> Network Administrator
> BT Ignite eSolutions
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything 
> that tells me
> how to track down the source of the message.  There does not 
> appear to be
> any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do 
> I get the
> message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I 
> determine the source?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> hehe.
> And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Doh.. Sorry.
> 
> "3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty 
> originator, 
> A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a 
> delivery receipt.
> See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> FAQ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to 
> Postmaster.  Please
> take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating 
> from the inside
> but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?
> 
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
> 
> 
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Andy David

You may want to read the relevant RFC on what "<>" means...


-Original Message-
From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

careful u don't end up here relays.mail-abuse.org  hehe

- -Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


What you are seeing are NDRS that can't be returned.
I wouldnt worry about those.


- -Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


RFC821
"then it must construct an "undeliverable mail" notification message
and
send it to the originator of the undeliverable mail (as indicated by
the
reverse-path)."

This would seem to indicate relaying?  However, I have my system
setup to
NOT relay.  I've even tested (per the faq)?  According to the
"telnet" test
I'm good-to-go?  Am I missing something?

- -Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are
intentionally
sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below.
You need
to turn relaying off or configure it correctly.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




- -Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything that
tells me
how to track down the source of the message.  There does not appear
to be
any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do I get
the
message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I determine the
source?

- -Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


hehe.
And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)


- -Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty
originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery
receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


- -Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


- -Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. 
Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the
inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

- ---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
- ---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
- ---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:


  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again



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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread King, John

 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

careful u don't end up here relays.mail-abuse.org  hehe

- -Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


What you are seeing are NDRS that can't be returned.
I wouldnt worry about those.


- -Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


RFC821
"then it must construct an "undeliverable mail" notification message
and
send it to the originator of the undeliverable mail (as indicated by
the
reverse-path)."

This would seem to indicate relaying?  However, I have my system
setup to
NOT relay.  I've even tested (per the faq)?  According to the
"telnet" test
I'm good-to-go?  Am I missing something?

- -Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are
intentionally
sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below.
You need
to turn relaying off or configure it correctly.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




- -Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything that
tells me
how to track down the source of the message.  There does not appear
to be
any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do I get
the
message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I determine the
source?

- -Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


hehe.
And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)


- -Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty
originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery
receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


- -Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


- -Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. 
Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the
inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

- ---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
- ---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
- ---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:


  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again



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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread East, Bill

Sorry Mr. Joyce, I don't agree. Commercial email (unsolicited or not) is
coming into his domain, but he is not relaying. Instead, the spammers are
sending to invalid addresses within his domain and using invalid (or
unresolvable) return addresses.

So: 1) Spam comes in.
2) Exchange tries to bounce an NDR back to the return address.
3) The attempt fails after repeated attempts. 
4) Exchange generates the message showing that the NDR could not be
delivered to the return address in the message.

Of course, you could try to contact the senders, but why would they care?
Best thing to do is ignore the messages or blackhole the senders.

-- 
be - MOS



 Earth Army Recruiting Center: What are you, chicken? Buk buk buk! 


> -Original Message-
> From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are 
> intentionally
> sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing 
> below. You need
> to turn relaying off or configure it correctly.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Computer Support Analyst
> Network Administrator
> BT Ignite eSolutions
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything 
> that tells me
> how to track down the source of the message.  There does not 
> appear to be
> any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do 
> I get the
> message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I 
> determine the source?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> hehe.
> And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> Doh.. Sorry.
> 
> "3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty 
> originator, 
> A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a 
> delivery receipt.
> See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> FAQ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
> 
> 
> I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to 
> Postmaster.  Please
> take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating 
> from the inside
> but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?
> 
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
> ---
> A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
> expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:
> 
> The message that caused this notification was:
> 
> 
>   To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: <>
>   Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again
> 
> 
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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Andy David

What you are seeing are NDRS that can't be returned.
I wouldnt worry about those.


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


RFC821
"then it must construct an "undeliverable mail" notification message and
send it to the originator of the undeliverable mail (as indicated by the
reverse-path)."

This would seem to indicate relaying?  However, I have my system setup to
NOT relay.  I've even tested (per the faq)?  According to the "telnet" test
I'm good-to-go?  Am I missing something?

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally
sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need
to turn relaying off or configure it correctly.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything that tells me
how to track down the source of the message.  There does not appear to be
any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do I get the
message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I determine the source?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


hehe.
And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:


  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again



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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread King, John

 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Maybe this link may help...  http://www.slipstick.com/exs/relay.htm
I seems like u need to stop anonymous relay.!  Do u route incoming
smtp mail..?  If so impliment proper routing
restictions..  To check the anonymous realy, from an outside source
telnet to mailserver:23(better yet use ssh)
once connected try to send a mail message with a bogus mail from
source and if it lets u send then anonymous relay is enabled.
If anonymous relay is disabled it will display propmt like anonymous
relaying denied..

just some thoughts..

  ~John

- -Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are
intentionally
sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below.
You need
to turn relaying off or configure it correctly.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




- -Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything that
tells me
how to track down the source of the message.  There does not appear
to be
any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do I get
the
message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I determine the
source?

- -Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


hehe.
And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)


- -Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty
originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery
receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


- -Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


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From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. 
Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the
inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Andy David

I dont think that is going to prevent spam arriving at his door, otherwise
we could all end it tomorrow.



-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally
sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need
to turn relaying off or configure it correctly.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything that tells me
how to track down the source of the message.  There does not appear to be
any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do I get the
message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I determine the source?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


hehe.
And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
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The message that caused this notification was:
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  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
---
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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Murphy, Brian

RFC821
"then it must construct an "undeliverable mail" notification message and
send it to the originator of the undeliverable mail (as indicated by the
reverse-path)."

This would seem to indicate relaying?  However, I have my system setup to
NOT relay.  I've even tested (per the faq)?  According to the "telnet" test
I'm good-to-go?  Am I missing something?

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally
sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need
to turn relaying off or configure it correctly.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything that tells me
how to track down the source of the message.  There does not appear to be
any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do I get the
message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I determine the source?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


hehe.
And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
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The message that caused this notification was:
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  From: <>
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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Joyce, Louis

You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally
sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need
to turn relaying off or configure it correctly.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything that tells me
how to track down the source of the message.  There does not appear to be
any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do I get the
message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I determine the source?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


hehe.
And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
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The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
---
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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Andy David

Use the force Luke. You are the source.


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything that tells me
how to track down the source of the message.  There does not appear to be
any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do I get the
message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I determine the source?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


hehe.
And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
---
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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Murphy, Brian

Ok.  I've read both Faqs.  Now what?  I did not read anything that tells me
how to track down the source of the message.  There does not appear to be
any information to go by.  Can I track by Message ID?  How do I get the
message ID from a Postmaster notification?  How do I determine the source?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


hehe.
And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
---
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expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Andy David

hehe.
And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe)


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
---
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expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:


  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again



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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Murphy, Brian

Doh.. Sorry.

"3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, 
A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt.
See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this."


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


FAQ


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:


  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again



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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Joyce, Louis

Wham, spam, thank you mam.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2001 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:


  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again



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RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Andy David

FAQ


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)


I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:


  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again



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Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)

2001-11-16 Thread Murphy, Brian

I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster.  Please
take a look.  It appears that these messages are originating from the inside
but I am not sure how to track down their source.  Any suggestions?

---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:
  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner!
---
A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:


  To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: <>
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again



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