RE: reclaiming space

[Michael B. Smith]

Great Minds Think Alike

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

Translation please. 


John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
FOB Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium - 717.633.3823
Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

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you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
Stars and Stripes."  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

GMTA

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:09 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: reclaiming space

 

Personally, I'd move the rest of the mailboxes and delete the old DB...
Less time involved...

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

You will need to do an offline defrag to shrink the database.  That
would be eseutil with the appropriate commands in place IIRC.  

 

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Greene
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space.

 

-Andrew

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to
another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all so
far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I do
not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the online
maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system manager.
I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I got last
night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean itself up
after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran the
maintenance. 

 

Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my thinking is
wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space back?

 

 

The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
mailboxes

Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14

Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49

Mailboxes processed:549

Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523

Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:  125576.70 MB

 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 



 

 

 

 

 





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Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke 

 

 

 


 


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RE: reclaiming space

[Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)]

That may be the acronym but I don't think it the truism that everyone
thinks it is.

Thanks anyway. 


John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
FOB Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium - 717.633.3823
Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

"A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
Stars and Stripes."  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:55 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

Great Minds Think Alike

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

Translation please. 


John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
FOB Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium - 717.633.3823
Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

"A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
Stars and Stripes."  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

GMTA

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:09 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: reclaiming space

 

Personally, I'd move the rest of the mailboxes and delete the old DB...
Less time involved...

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

You will need to do an offline defrag to shrink the database.  That
would be eseutil with the appropriate commands in place IIRC.  

 

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Greene
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space.

 

-Andrew

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to
another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all so
far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I do
not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the online
maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system manager.
I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I got last
night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean itself up
after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran the
maintenance. 

 

Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my thinking is
wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space back?

 

 

The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
mailboxes

Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14

Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49

Mailboxes processed:549

Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523

Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:  125576.70 MB

 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 



 

 

 

 

 





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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke 

 

 

 


 


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RE: reclaiming space

[Michael B. Smith]

Nope, you understood correctly.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

Not sure why you would move the mailboxes back:  if I'm not mistaken, what
is being suggested is that a new store be created on the same exchange
server, and the mailboxes be moved to the new store using the wizard and the
old store then be removed from the system.  This would mean, as already
stated by Michael and others, the only downtime would be for the users whose
mailbox were in the process of being moved instead of the all users; the end
user impact can be further mitigated by scheduling the job to run afterhours
and spread out over several days.  Having used the same process several
times in similar situations, I consider it to be much more advisable than
doing an offline defrag.

...unless of course I misunderstood what was being recommended?

Regards,
Amer Karim
Nautilis Information Systems


-Original Message-
From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: March-26-08 12:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

As I recall, one of Microsoft's criteria for doing an Offline
Defragmentation was that you had greater than 20% whitespace in the
current message database file. Yes, once the offline defragmentation is
completed, you will have zero white space and the MDB will expand as new
mail comes in and whitespace will grow again as mail is deleted, but
such is the nature of database files.

Now as to the BRILLIANT suggestion that they just move all the mailboxes
and then blow away the old database, what happens when you move all the
mailboxes back to the original location AFTER blowing away the original
MDB???  You've expanded the target MDB by that much and created a huge
whitespace area on the other MDB. So, what have you really gained, other
than the creation of a HUGE amount of transaction logs, on both the
source and target servers?

Oh, BTW, make sure you run a decent physical file defragmentation tool
once you've completed the ESEUTIL defrag, like Perfect Disk 2008. That
will help you get the file into a contiguous condition and help your
disk performance quite a bit. 


John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
FOB Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium - 717.633.3823
Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

"A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
Stars and Stripes."  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:00 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

If you have plenty of disk space, then the only NEGATIVE is that your
backups take longer, as they still back up the empty space. A positive
is that Exchange doesn't have to physically expand the database store
when additional space is needed.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: reclaiming space

 

I've always been curious and I've never been able to find a straight
answer.

 

Is there any benefit to running an offline defrag after you have
migrated a significant amount of data from one database to another,
other than regaining disk space? I recently migrated about half of my
users (50GB) to another storage group (Exchange 2003 SP2) and was
wondering if I should bother with defragging the original database. I'm
not concerned about the size of the original DB as I have plenty of disk
space.

 

Sorry to hijack the thread but I figured it was relatively on-topic.

 

- Sean

 

On 3/25/08, Don Ely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Yes we do... 

 

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Michael B. Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

We really need to train people not to say that any more.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com  

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 

Subject: RE: reclaiming space 

 

You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space.

 

-Andrew

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to
another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all so
far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I do
not see that space coming back

RE: reclaiming space

[Tom Strader]

GOD FORBID



From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space



It's not like he said GoExchange.

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

 

We really need to train people not to say that any more.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

 

You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space.

 

-Andrew

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to
another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all so
far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I do
not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the online
maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system manager.
I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I got last
night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean itself up
after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran the
maintenance. 

 

Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my thinking is
wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space back?

 

 

The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
mailboxes

Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14

Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49

Mailboxes processed:549

Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523

Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:  125576.70 MB

 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


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RE: Thoughts on this - relays.ordb.org

[David Mazzaccaro]

Did I miss a question somewhere here?

 



From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Thoughts on this - relays.ordb.org

 

Came across this..  thoughts.

CAR

Connection-based filtering was used to blindly reject content using
nothing but faith in the independent listing service. One of the popular
realtime blacklists (RBL) was ORDB and it was a database of mail servers
that were open relays. These servers could be used by anyone, without
authentication of any sort, to send SPAM content all over the Internet. 

In December of 2006, ORDB went offline.

On the morning of March 25, 2008 relays.ordb.org came back online,
blacklisting everything. How, why, when and so on are not important, the
only relevant task here is to stop using this RBL. If you receive a
Non-Delivery receipt referencing relays.ordb.org, the remote mail server
is still using ORDB to detect SPAM and it is dropping all your inbound
mail.

 

We are not able to remove the affected IP's from this decommissioned
list. The rejecting mail servers should be contacted and advised that
this list should not be used.

 

 

 


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Changing Public Folder Type

[Joe Fox]

Hi all.

I am finishing up an E2K3 Migration, and have several public folders that
are supposed to be calendars, but were created as just a public folder.  Is
there a way to convert it so that it shows up as a calendar?  I'm guessing
that there probably isn't, but I'd thought I'd check anyway.

Thanks.
Joe

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Changing Public Folder Type

[Joe Fox]

Hi all.

I am finishing up an E2K3 Migration, and have several public folders that
are supposed to be calendars, but were created as just a public folder.  Is
there a way to convert it so that it shows up as a calendar?  I'm guessing
that there probably isn't, but I'd thought I'd check anyway.

Thanks.
Joe

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RE: Changing Public Folder Type

[Sobey, Richard A]

Delete and recreate is the only way afaik.
 
From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 March 2008 12:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Changing Public Folder Type
 
Hi all.
 
I am finishing up an E2K3 Migration, and have several public folders
that are supposed to be calendars, but were created as just a public
folder.  Is there a way to convert it so that it shows up as a calendar?
I'm guessing that there probably isn't, but I'd thought I'd check
anyway.
 
Thanks.
Joe

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Re: Changing Public Folder Type

[Joe Fox]

That's what I thought initially.

Thanks.
Joe

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Sobey, Richard A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  Delete and recreate is the only way afaik.
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* 26 March 2008 12:54
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Changing Public Folder Type
>
>
>
> Hi all.
>
>
>
> I am finishing up an E2K3 Migration, and have several public folders that
> are supposed to be calendars, but were created as just a public folder.  Is
> there a way to convert it so that it shows up as a calendar?  I'm guessing
> that there probably isn't, but I'd thought I'd check anyway.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Joe
>
> --
> Joe Fox
> Systems/Network Administrator
>
> Mobile# (716) 846-9308
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/josephfoxjr
>
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RE: Cluster Server

[Dennis Rogov]

Nope it wasn't. This is what I found from my own observation
last night. It appears that our exchange server only references one GC
and fails to reference the other one. It is setup in auto mode within
the exchange properties. One of the Dc has Windows Sp2 loaded the other
doesn't. Once the GC server get shut down that has SP2 exchange fails to
reference the other Global Catalog and causes the information store to
stop responding. In the event viewer I get alerts "2107"  DSAccess
failed to obtain an IP address for DS server %Servername% error 11004.
This host will not be used as a  DS server by DSaccess

 

Dr

 

 

Dennis Rogov

Senior Network Analyst 
THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 

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From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cluster Server

 

Was this server a DC in an earlier life??

 

From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cluster Server

 

My problem is that Microsoft escalated group couldn't figure
out why Exchange 03 box losses 

 

communication with my 2 global catalogs which causes a crash on the
Information Store. I am very confused 

 

with whats going on but so is Microsoft. Which is why I decided to
purchase an additional server and install 

 

Exchange 03 and setup a cluster with the primary. I wanted to make the
cluster a DC and a global catalog so 

 

that it could get all of the AD updates preventing the crash. 

 

Dr

 

 

Dennis Rogov

Senior Network Analyst 
THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 

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From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 2:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cluster Server

 

When you stop being a DC/GC IIS is pretty much removed. Exchange stores
some stuff in the IIS Metabase, so all that exchange relies on in
Metabase goes away.

 

Additionally it is not really a good (supported) idea to cluster a
Domain controller. 

 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cluster Server

 

Last I heard, it's not recommended to have Exchange on a DC.  However,
if you already do, don't just demote the server.  You have to uninstall
Exchange from that box first, or you'll get into a very difficult
situationisn't that right Don?

 

Joe Heaton

 

 



From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Cluster Server

Hi All I have two questions:

 

Is there any issue to have your exchange 03 server be a domain
controller and a global catalog at the same time? 

 

I am looking to purchase a new additional server Exchange 03 server to
make a cluster for instant failover in case the main mail server goes
offline. What are my options?

 

Dennis Rogov

Senior Network Analyst 
THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 

379 thornall street, 12th floor  | edison, nj 08837 usa

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Re: Thoughts on this - relays.ordb.org

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

There is no question - its a warning to all those that still have the ORDB
as a DNSBL in their spam filtering solution.

ORDB had been shutdown since 12/2006, but came back on yesterday returning
positive replies to ALL queries.

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=08/03/25/2124224

To the OP: My thoughts?  If you are foolish enough to leave defunct FQDN's
of ANYTHING in ANY configurations, then you get what you deserve.

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:54 AM, David Mazzaccaro <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Did I miss a question somewhere here?
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:59 PM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Thoughts on this - relays.ordb.org
>
>
>
> Came across this..  thoughts.
>
> CAR
>
> Connection-based filtering was used to blindly reject content using
> nothing but faith in the independent listing service. One of the popular
> realtime blacklists (RBL) was ORDB and it was a database of mail servers
> that were open relays. These servers could be used by anyone, without
> authentication of any sort, to send SPAM content all over the Internet. **
>
> In December of 2006, ORDB went offline.**
>
> On the morning of March 25, 2008 relays.ordb.org came back online,
> blacklisting everything. How, why, when and so on are not important, the
> only relevant task here is to stop using this RBL. If you receive a
> Non-Delivery receipt referencing relays.ordb.org, the remote mail server
> is still using ORDB to detect SPAM and it is dropping all your inbound mail.
> **
>
>  **
>
> We are not able to remove the affected IP's from this decommissioned list.
> The rejecting mail servers should be contacted and advised that this list
> should not be used.**
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Re: reclaiming space

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

People who use caps and bold fonts get what they deserve!  ;-P



On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Tom Strader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  *GOD FORBID*
>
>  --
>  *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: reclaiming space
>
>   It's not like he said GoExchange.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: reclaiming space
>
>
>
> We really need to train people not to say that any more.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: reclaiming space
>
>
>
> You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space.
>
>
>
> -Andrew
>
>
>
> *From:* SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* reclaiming space
>
>
>
>
>
> I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to
> another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all so far
> I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I do not see
> that space coming back on the first server. I do run the online maintenance
> of the databases that is built inside of the system manager. I also get
> emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I got last night. I was
> under the impression that Exchange would clean itself up after the moves and
> allow the database to shrink after it ran the maintenance.
>
>
>
> Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my thinking is
> wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space back?
>
>
>
>
>
> The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
> mailboxes
>
> Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14
>
> Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49
>
> Mailboxes processed:549
>
> Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523
>
> Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:  125576.70 MB
>
>
>
>
>
> Jack Smrekar
>
> Appleton Area School District
>
> 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123
>
> A+  N+  Server +
>
>
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RE: reclaiming space

[Thomas W Shinder]

blech
 
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org  
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7  
MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

 




From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: reclaiming space


People who use caps and bold fonts get what they deserve!  ;-P


 
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Tom Strader <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


GOD FORBID




From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space



It's not like he said GoExchange.

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space 





 

We really need to train people not to say that any more.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

 

You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space.

 

-Andrew

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one
Exchange server to another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the
first server. In all so far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to
the other server but I do not see that space coming back on the first
server. I do run the online maintenance of the databases that is built
inside of the system manager. I also get emails nightly on what was
done. Below is one that I got last night. I was under the impression
that Exchange would clean itself up after the moves and allow the
database to shrink after it ran the maintenance. 

 

Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong.
If my thinking is wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the
space back?

 

 

The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has
completed processing mailboxes

Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14

Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49

Mailboxes processed:549

Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523

Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:
125576.70 MB

 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 




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RE: reclaiming space

[Tom Strader]

Oh my god, an intelligent response for Mr. Shinder. Totally unusual!!!



From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space


blech
 
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org  
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7  
MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

 




From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: reclaiming space


People who use caps and bold fonts get what they deserve!  ;-P


 
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Tom Strader <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


GOD FORBID




From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space



It's not like he said GoExchange.

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space 





 

We really need to train people not to say that any more.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

 

You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space.

 

-Andrew

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one
Exchange server to another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the
first server. In all so far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to
the other server but I do not see that space coming back on the first
server. I do run the online maintenance of the databases that is built
inside of the system manager. I also get emails nightly on what was
done. Below is one that I got last night. I was under the impression
that Exchange would clean itself up after the moves and allow the
database to shrink after it ran the maintenance. 

 

Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong.
If my thinking is wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the
space back?

 

 

The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has
completed processing mailboxes

Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14

Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49

Mailboxes processed:549

Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523

Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:
125576.70 MB

 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 




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RE: reclaiming space

[Thomas W Shinder]

Please ignore that email. I was responding to a private email and
mistakenly put the answer is this one!
 
Sorry.
 
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org  
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7  
MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

 




From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space


blech
 
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org  
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7  
MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

 




From: Micheal Espinola Jr
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: reclaiming space


People who use caps and bold fonts get what they
deserve!  ;-P


 
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Tom Strader <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


GOD FORBID




From: William Lefkovics [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space



It's not like he said GoExchange.

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space 





 

We really need to train people not to say that
any more.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

 

You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the
space.

 

-Andrew

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one
Exchange server to another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the
first server. In all so far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to
the other server but I do not see that space coming back on the first
server. I do run the online maintenance of the databases that is built
inside of the system manager. I also get emails nightly on what was
done. Below is one that I got last night. I was under the impression
that Exchange would clean itself up after the moves and allow the
database to shrink after it ran the maintenance. 

 

Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking
wrong. If my thinking is wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get
the space back?

 

 

The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager
has completed processing mailboxes

Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14

Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49

Mailboxes processed:549

Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523

Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:
125576.70 MB

 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 

 

 

 

  

RE: reclaiming space

[Tom Strader]

...and I deserve it all, BWahahahahaha!!
 


From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: reclaiming space


People who use caps and bold fonts get what they deserve!  ;-P


 
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Tom Strader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


GOD FORBID




From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space



It's not like he said GoExchange.

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space 





 

We really need to train people not to say that any more.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

 

You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space.

 

-Andrew

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server
to another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all
so far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I
do not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the
online maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system
manager. I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I
got last night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean
itself up after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran
the maintenance. 

 

Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my
thinking is wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space
back?

 

 

The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed
processing mailboxes

Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14

Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49

Mailboxes processed:549

Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523

Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:  125576.70
MB

 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 




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RE: reclaiming space

[Tom Strader]

Thanks John. I need a jolt or two every now and then.
 

-Original Message-
From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:00 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space





John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
FOB Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium - 717.633.3823
Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

"A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
Stars and Stripes."  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

...and I deserve it all, BWahahahahaha!!
 


From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: reclaiming space


People who use caps and bold fonts get what they deserve!  ;-P


 
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Tom Strader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


GOD FORBID




From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space



It's not like he said GoExchange.

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space 





 

We really need to train people not to say that any more.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

 

You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space.

 

-Andrew

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server
to another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all
so far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I
do not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the
online maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system
manager. I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I
got last night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean
itself up after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran
the maintenance. 

 

Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my
thinking is wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space
back?

 

 

The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed
processing mailboxes

Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14

Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49

Mailboxes processed:549

Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523

Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:  125576.70
MB

 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 




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RE: reclaiming space

[Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)]

John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
FOB Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium - 717.633.3823
Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

"A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
Stars and Stripes."  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

...and I deserve it all, BWahahahahaha!!
 


From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: reclaiming space


People who use caps and bold fonts get what they deserve!  ;-P


 
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Tom Strader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


GOD FORBID




From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space



It's not like he said GoExchange.

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: reclaiming space 





 

We really need to train people not to say that any more.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

 

You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space.

 

-Andrew

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server
to another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all
so far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I
do not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the
online maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system
manager. I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I
got last night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean
itself up after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran
the maintenance. 

 

Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my
thinking is wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space
back?

 

 

The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed
processing mailboxes

Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14

Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49

Mailboxes processed:549

Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523

Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:  125576.70
MB

 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 




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RE: reclaiming space

[Matt Lathrum]

If you do this, you will lose deleted item retention for those users.
Not sure if that's a negative for you, but it is for us.

 

 

From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

 

Move everyone else out to a new database, then delete the old one.

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to
another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all so
far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I do
not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the online
maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system manager.
I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I got last
night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean itself up
after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran the
maintenance. 

 

Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my thinking is
wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space back?

 

 

The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
mailboxes

Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14

Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49

Mailboxes processed:549

Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523

Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:  125576.70 MB

 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Interleave

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Does anyone use this application (www.interleave.nl) ?  If so, what has been
your experience, good or bad.

We're looking at it to take care of tracking change management, replacing
our sharepoint site and wiki and maybe keeping track of software and
hardware.

It seems to me that I recall seeing Interleave mentioned on this list at
some point in the past.

TIA,

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

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RE: Interleave

[Martin Blackstone]

Sherry, take a look at this:

http://www.axosoft.com/

 

Never in my life have a I seen a more configurable piece of software. At my
last company we completely reconfigured it to be a workflow tracker for
insurance policies.

It really is quite spectacular.

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Interleave

 

Does anyone use this application (www.interleave.nl) ?  If so, what has been
your experience, good or bad.  

We're looking at it to take care of tracking change management, replacing
our sharepoint site and wiki and maybe keeping track of software and
hardware.

It seems to me that I recall seeing Interleave mentioned on this list at
some point in the past.

TIA,

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke 

 


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batch/automagic resource creation

[Andy Shook]

Just got a request to create a couple of dozen additional resources in
Exchange (E2K3 SP2) and I really don't want to have to create the
accounts, login as the account, modify calendar perms and needed
checkboxes for auto scheduling, etc.  Would this be a job for PoSH?  

 

TIA,  

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

 


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Re: batch/automagic resource creation

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I think you should use all the Spice Girls.  Why restrict yourself to just
one?

If PSH can do all that, I'd certainly like to know too!



On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  Just got a request to create a couple of dozen additional resources in
> Exchange (E2K3 SP2) and I really don't want to have to create the accounts,
> login as the account, modify calendar perms and needed checkboxes for auto
> scheduling, etc.  Would this be a job for PoSH?
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> Shook
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook
>
>
>
>
>



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RE: batch/automagic resource creation

[Andy Shook]

Whatever...republicans rule, democrats drool.  You polarized, political
hoochy-mama 

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: batch/automagic resource creation

 

 


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Re: Thoughts on this - relays.ordb.org

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Im assuming there is currently a new owner/squatter of ordb.org.  In my
spare time today I've done a little snooping into the website that is
running at ordb.org.  Its a blank page that has an iframe to another web
site.  I'm detailing my finds here:

http://www.asspsmtp.org/forums/index.php?topic=671.0

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  There is no question - its a warning to all those that still have the
> ORDB as a DNSBL in their spam filtering solution.
>
> ORDB had been shutdown since 12/2006, but came back on yesterday returning
> positive replies to ALL queries.
>
> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=08/03/25/2124224
>
> To the OP: My thoughts?  If you are foolish enough to leave defunct FQDN's
> of ANYTHING in ANY configurations, then you get what you deserve.
>
>  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:54 AM, David Mazzaccaro <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  Did I miss a question somewhere here?
> >
> >
> >  --
> >
> > *From:* Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:59 PM
> > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* Thoughts on this - relays.ordb.org
> >
> >
> >
> > Came across this..  thoughts.
> >
> > CAR
> >
> > Connection-based filtering was used to blindly reject content using
> > nothing but faith in the independent listing service. One of the popular
> > realtime blacklists (RBL) was ORDB and it was a database of mail servers
> > that were open relays. These servers could be used by anyone, without
> > authentication of any sort, to send SPAM content all over the Internet.
> > **
> >
> > In December of 2006, ORDB went offline.**
> >
> > On the morning of March 25, 2008 relays.ordb.org came back online,
> > blacklisting everything. How, why, when and so on are not important, the
> > only relevant task here is to stop using this RBL. If you receive a
> > Non-Delivery receipt referencing relays.ordb.org, the remote mail server
> > is still using ORDB to detect SPAM and it is dropping all your inbound mail.
> > **
> >
> >  **
> >
> > We are not able to remove the affected IP's from this decommissioned
> > list. The rejecting mail servers should be contacted and advised that this
> > list should not be used.**
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>



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Re: Thoughts on this - relays.ordb.org

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

LOL, disregard.  I had a bad dns setting that was munging my name
resolution.

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Im assuming there is currently a new owner/squatter of ordb.org.  In my
> spare time today I've done a little snooping into the website that is
> running at ordb.org.  Its a blank page that has an iframe to another web
> site.  I'm detailing my finds here:
>
> http://www.asspsmtp.org/forums/index.php?topic=671.0
>
>   On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  There is no question - its a warning to all those that still have the
> > ORDB as a DNSBL in their spam filtering solution.
> >
> > ORDB had been shutdown since 12/2006, but came back on yesterday
> > returning positive replies to ALL queries.
> >
> > http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=08/03/25/2124224
> >
> > To the OP: My thoughts?  If you are foolish enough to leave defunct
> > FQDN's of ANYTHING in ANY configurations, then you get what you deserve.
> >
> >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:54 AM, David Mazzaccaro <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >  Did I miss a question somewhere here?
> > >
> > >
> > >  --
> > >
> > > *From:* Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:59 PM
> > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > *Subject:* Thoughts on this - relays.ordb.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Came across this..  thoughts.
> > >
> > > CAR
> > >
> > > Connection-based filtering was used to blindly reject content using
> > > nothing but faith in the independent listing service. One of the popular
> > > realtime blacklists (RBL) was ORDB and it was a database of mail servers
> > > that were open relays. These servers could be used by anyone, without
> > > authentication of any sort, to send SPAM content all over the Internet.
> > > **
> > >
> > > In December of 2006, ORDB went offline.**
> > >
> > > On the morning of March 25, 2008 relays.ordb.org came back online,
> > > blacklisting everything. How, why, when and so on are not important, the
> > > only relevant task here is to stop using this RBL. If you receive a
> > > Non-Delivery receipt referencing relays.ordb.org, the remote mail
> > > server is still using ORDB to detect SPAM and it is dropping all your
> > > inbound mail.**
> > >
> > >  **
> > >
> > > We are not able to remove the affected IP's from this decommissioned
> > > list. The rejecting mail servers should be contacted and advised that this
> > > list should not be used.**
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ME2
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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RE: batch/automagic resource creation

[Tom Strader]

now THAT's comedy



From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: batch/automagic resource creation



Whatever...republicans rule, democrats drool.  You polarized, political
hoochy-mama 

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: batch/automagic resource creation

 

 


 


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Distribution Lists Creation for another user

[Tom Strader]

Executive secretary needs to create Distribution Lists for the President within 
HIS contacts folder.
This person has access to view and create contacts for him and she can crate a 
DL folder, but cannot pull from the Presidents contacts to populate the folder.
 
She wants to avoid using the Public Folder area and I think this can be done 
from her PC, maybe?
 
Direction appreciated.

Thanks,
Tom Strader
Server Systems Administrator
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center
Charlotte, NC 28202
O: 704.379.1285 | F: 704.444.2098
http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader 
.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Swim on over
¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> to the PAC
¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> and catch some culture 

 

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RE: batch/automagic resource creation

[Michael B. Smith]

It can create resource accounts - in Exchange 2007.

 

In Exchange 2007 a resource account isn't a "normal" account.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: batch/automagic resource creation

 

I think you should use all the Spice Girls.  Why restrict yourself to just
one?

 

If PSH can do all that, I'd certainly like to know too!



 

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Just got a request to create a couple of dozen additional resources in
Exchange (E2K3 SP2) and I really don't want to have to create the accounts,
login as the account, modify calendar perms and needed checkboxes for auto
scheduling, etc.  Would this be a job for PoSH?  

 

TIA,  

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

 

 

 




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RE: reclaiming space

[Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)]

If I recall correctly, if you do a move user to a new database or a new
server, you loose the dumpster contents no matter what. 


John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
FOB Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium - 717.633.3823
Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

"A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
Stars and Stripes."  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

If you do this, you will lose deleted item retention for those users.
Not sure if that's a negative for you, but it is for us.

 

 

From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: reclaiming space

 

Move everyone else out to a new database, then delete the old one.

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: reclaiming space

 

 

I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to
another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all so
far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I do
not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the online
maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system manager.
I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I got last
night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean itself up
after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran the
maintenance. 

 

Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my thinking is
wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space back?

 

 

The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
mailboxes

Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14

Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49

Mailboxes processed:549

Messages that would be moved or deleted:  26523

Size of messages that would be moved or deleted:  125576.70 MB

 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 



 

 

 

 

 


 


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