RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook
What's the NT Admin list? From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook I love this list and the NT Admin list, I've looked like the hero many times with the assistance from the people here!! On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote: Ok, it's working, the user is happy and with the help from this list I'm an hero! Thanks all that participated and especially Jeremy ___ Stefan Jafs From: Troy Meyer [mailto:tme...@uoregon.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Jeremy is correct, if you grant 'Send-as' permission the from line can be used and it will appear from the other user/group. We used to do this extensively with resource and administrative users (think postmas...@x.com). If you are having issues sending on behalf rather than as, I would remove the 'send on behalf' permission from that account as you likely are not doing both. Sorry to interrupt your thread. -troy From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Does from here.and replies come back to the original senders email address. From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Nope, not if you grant Send As permissions. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic | Mobile: 540-322-7980 | Office: 425-949-1337 | Email: jere...@cohesivelogic.com From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook That will show as sent on behalf of best way is to create a new outlook profile for the extra smtp address and use that. S From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Create a new message, click over to Options and click on Show From. Once it's clicked you should see the From field in all new messages. One thing to remember is that leaving the From field blank will default to the mailbox address (jsm...@abc.com in the below message) - he'll only have to fill it in when selecting the DL as the sender. Here is a screenshot of where you can find it in Outlook 2007. http://imgur.com/pjgxe.png Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Thanks Jeremy, that sound like a workable solution, ok one more question, the From field in Outlook? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook This would work fine but I see one potential issue; the user potentially doesn't know which address the mail was sent to as it will just show his name in the To field. This is overcome with the DL solution. I generally ask the user to define which domain they want to be their primary and set it up as follows; User - John Smith jsm...@abc.com DL - John Smith (XYZ) jsm...@xyz.com That way it's easy for the user to say Oh, it says John Smith (XYZ) (the DL in this case) in the To field, I should probably respond from that same address to avoid confusing people. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Carl
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909802
Hi all, we seem to be experiencing the issues described in the above referenced kb article. Just wondering if anyone has installed it with no problems, and did you have to install it across your exchange org, or was it only required on the server on which the effected users had their mailboxes. Many thanks in advance. Clayton ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook
It's a big Lyris server with Windows admins, but that's not important right now. -- ME2 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.comwrote: What's the NT Admin list? -- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:09 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook I love this list and the NT Admin list, I've looked like the hero many times with the assistance from the people here!! On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote: Ok, it’s working, the user is happy and with the help from this list I’m an hero! Thanks all that participated and especially Jeremy *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Troy Meyer [mailto:tme...@uoregon.edu] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:32 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Jeremy is correct, if you grant ‘Send-as’ permission the from line can be used and it will appear from the other user/group. We used to do this extensively with resource and administrative users (think postmas...@x.com). If you are having issues sending on behalf rather than as, I would remove the ‘send on behalf’ permission from that account as you likely are not doing both. Sorry to interrupt your thread. -troy *From:* Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] *On Behalf Of *Exchange (Sunbelt) *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:24 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Does from here.and replies come back to the original senders email address. *From:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:14 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Nope, not if you grant Send As permissions. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic | Mobile: 540-322-7980 | Office: 425-949-1337 | Email: jere...@cohesivelogic.com *From:* Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] *On Behalf Of *Exchange (Sunbelt) *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:05 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook That will show as sent on behalf of best way is to create a new outlook profile for the extra smtp address and use that. S *From:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:51 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Create a new message, click over to Options and click on “Show From”. Once it’s clicked you should see the From field in all new messages. One thing to remember is that leaving the From field blank will default to the mailbox address (jsm...@abc.com in the below message) – he’ll only have to fill it in when selecting the DL as the sender. Here is a screenshot of where you can find it in Outlook 2007. http://imgur.com/pjgxe.png Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:43 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Thanks Jeremy, that sound like a workable solution, ok one more question, the From field in Outlook? *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:36 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook This would work fine but I see one potential issue; the user potentially doesn’t know which address the mail was sent to as it will just show his name in the To field. This is overcome with the DL solution. I generally ask the user to define which domain they want to be their primary and set it up as follows; User – John Smith *jsm...@abc.com* DL – John Smith (XYZ) *jsm...@xyz.com * That way it’s easy for the user to say “Oh, it says “John Smith (XYZ)” (the DL in this case) in the To field, I should probably respond from that same address to avoid confusing people.” Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 *From:* Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:27 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook That's a creative solution. I do this: 1. Enable the client PC(s) of the person(s) affected to relay mail through your Exchange server. 2. Setup a POP/SMTP account in Outlook, giving it the alternate SMTP address and using the Exchange server as the Outgoing and Incoming mail server. You can put anything at all for username and password in the POP3 setup. 3. Click the
RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook
ROFL. One of my favorite movies. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook It's a big Lyris server with Windows admins, but that's not important right now. -- ME2 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.commailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: What's the NT Admin list? From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook I love this list and the NT Admin list, I've looked like the hero many times with the assistance from the people here!! On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.commailto:sj...@amico.com wrote: Ok, it's working, the user is happy and with the help from this list I'm an hero! Thanks all that participated and especially Jeremy ___ Stefan Jafs From: Troy Meyer [mailto:tme...@uoregon.edumailto:tme...@uoregon.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Jeremy is correct, if you grant 'Send-as' permission the from line can be used and it will appear from the other user/group. We used to do this extensively with resource and administrative users (think postmas...@x.commailto:postmas...@x.com). If you are having issues sending on behalf rather than as, I would remove the 'send on behalf' permission from that account as you likely are not doing both. Sorry to interrupt your thread. -troy From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bmmailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Does from here.and replies come back to the original senders email address. From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Nope, not if you grant Send As permissions. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic | Mobile: 540-322-7980 | Office: 425-949-1337 | Email: jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bmmailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook That will show as sent on behalf of best way is to create a new outlook profile for the extra smtp address and use that. S From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Create a new message, click over to Options and click on Show From. Once it's clicked you should see the From field in all new messages. One thing to remember is that leaving the From field blank will default to the mailbox address (jsm...@abc.commailto:jsm...@abc.com in the below message) - he'll only have to fill it in when selecting the DL as the sender. Here is a screenshot of where you can find it in Outlook 2007. http://imgur.com/pjgxe.png Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.commailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Thanks Jeremy, that sound like a workable solution, ok one more question, the From field in Outlook? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.commailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook This would work fine but I see one potential issue; the user potentially doesn't know which address the mail was sent to as it will just show his name in the To field. This is overcome with the DL solution. I generally ask the user to define which domain they want to be their primary and set it up as follows; User - John Smith jsm...@abc.commailto:jsm...@abc.com DL - John Smith (XYZ) jsm...@xyz.commailto:jsm...@xyz.com That way it's easy for the user to say Oh, it says John Smith (XYZ) (the DL in this case) in the To field, I should probably respond from that same address to avoid confusing people. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.commailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:27 AM To:
RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook
Yes, yes, I remember. I had the lasagna... I wasn't aware there was an NT group on this server. From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook ROFL. One of my favorite movies. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook It's a big Lyris server with Windows admins, but that's not important right now. -- ME2 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: What's the NT Admin list? From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook I love this list and the NT Admin list, I've looked like the hero many times with the assistance from the people here!! On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote: Ok, it's working, the user is happy and with the help from this list I'm an hero! Thanks all that participated and especially Jeremy ___ Stefan Jafs From: Troy Meyer [mailto:tme...@uoregon.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Jeremy is correct, if you grant 'Send-as' permission the from line can be used and it will appear from the other user/group. We used to do this extensively with resource and administrative users (think postmas...@x.com). If you are having issues sending on behalf rather than as, I would remove the 'send on behalf' permission from that account as you likely are not doing both. Sorry to interrupt your thread. -troy From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Does from here.and replies come back to the original senders email address. From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Nope, not if you grant Send As permissions. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic | Mobile: 540-322-7980 | Office: 425-949-1337 | Email: jere...@cohesivelogic.com From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook That will show as sent on behalf of best way is to create a new outlook profile for the extra smtp address and use that. S From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Create a new message, click over to Options and click on Show From. Once it's clicked you should see the From field in all new messages. One thing to remember is that leaving the From field blank will default to the mailbox address (jsm...@abc.com in the below message) - he'll only have to fill it in when selecting the DL as the sender. Here is a screenshot of where you can find it in Outlook 2007. http://imgur.com/pjgxe.png Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Thanks Jeremy, that sound like a workable solution, ok one more question, the From field in Outlook? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook This would work fine but I see one potential issue; the user potentially doesn't know which address the mail was sent to as it will just show his name in the To field. This is overcome with the DL solution. I generally ask the user to define which domain they want to be their primary and set it up as follows; User - John Smith jsm...@abc.com DL - John Smith (XYZ) jsm...@xyz.com That way it's easy for the user to say Oh, it says John Smith (XYZ) (the DL in this case) in the To field, I should probably respond from that same address to avoid confusing people. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from
RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook
And you miss a lot of Exchange discussions by not being on that list! :( From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Yes, yes, I remember. I had the lasagna... I wasn't aware there was an NT group on this server. _ From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook ROFL. One of my favorite movies. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook It's a big Lyris server with Windows admins, but that's not important right now. -- ME2 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: What's the NT Admin list? _ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook I love this list and the NT Admin list, I've looked like the hero many times with the assistance from the people here!! On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote: Ok, it's working, the user is happy and with the help from this list I'm an hero! Thanks all that participated and especially Jeremy ___ Stefan Jafs From: Troy Meyer [mailto:tme...@uoregon.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Jeremy is correct, if you grant 'Send-as' permission the from line can be used and it will appear from the other user/group. We used to do this extensively with resource and administrative users (think postmas...@x.com). If you are having issues sending on behalf rather than as, I would remove the 'send on behalf' permission from that account as you likely are not doing both. Sorry to interrupt your thread. -troy From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Does from here.and replies come back to the original senders email address. From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Nope, not if you grant Send As permissions. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic | Mobile: 540-322-7980 | Office: 425-949-1337 | Email: jere...@cohesivelogic.com From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook That will show as sent on behalf of best way is to create a new outlook profile for the extra smtp address and use that. S From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Create a new message, click over to Options and click on Show From. Once it's clicked you should see the From field in all new messages. One thing to remember is that leaving the From field blank will default to the mailbox address (jsm...@abc.com in the below message) - he'll only have to fill it in when selecting the DL as the sender. Here is a screenshot of where you can find it in Outlook 2007. http://imgur.com/pjgxe.png Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Thanks Jeremy, that sound like a workable solution, ok one more question, the From field in Outlook? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook This would work fine but I see one potential issue; the user potentially doesn't know which address the mail was sent to as it will just show his name in the To field. This is overcome with the DL solution. I generally ask the user to define which domain they want to be their primary and set it up as follows; User - John Smith jsm...@abc.com DL - John Smith (XYZ) jsm...@xyz.com That way it's easy for the user to say Oh, it says John Smith (XYZ) (the DL in this case) in the To field, I should probably respond from that same address to avoid confusing people.
Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook
LOL, welcome to the big world of Lyris/Sunbelt lists Paul. There's an ActiveDirectory list hosted there as well. All of Sunbelt's software discussion lists have gone to a forum based platform. (Ninja, Vipre etc) On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.comwrote: And you miss a lot of Exchange discussions by not being on that list! :( *From:* Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2009 11:06 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Yes, yes, I remember. I had the lasagna... I wasn't aware there was an NT group on this server. -- *From:* Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2009 9:28 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook ROFL. One of my favorite movies. *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2009 10:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook It's a big Lyris server with Windows admins, but that's not important right now. -- ME2 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: What's the NT Admin list? -- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:09 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook I love this list and the NT Admin list, I've looked like the hero many times with the assistance from the people here!! On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote: Ok, it’s working, the user is happy and with the help from this list I’m an hero! Thanks all that participated and especially Jeremy *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Troy Meyer [mailto:tme...@uoregon.edu] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:32 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Jeremy is correct, if you grant ‘Send-as’ permission the from line can be used and it will appear from the other user/group. We used to do this extensively with resource and administrative users (think postmas...@x.com ). If you are having issues sending on behalf rather than as, I would remove the ‘send on behalf’ permission from that account as you likely are not doing both. Sorry to interrupt your thread. -troy *From:* Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] *On Behalf Of *Exchange (Sunbelt) *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:24 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Does from here.and replies come back to the original senders email address. *From:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:14 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Nope, not if you grant Send As permissions. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic | Mobile: 540-322-7980 | Office: 425-949-1337 | Email: jere...@cohesivelogic.com *From:* Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] *On Behalf Of *Exchange (Sunbelt) *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:05 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook That will show as sent on behalf of best way is to create a new outlook profile for the extra smtp address and use that. S *From:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:51 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Create a new message, click over to Options and click on “Show From”. Once it’s clicked you should see the From field in all new messages. One thing to remember is that leaving the From field blank will default to the mailbox address (jsm...@abc.com in the below message) – he’ll only have to fill it in when selecting the DL as the sender. Here is a screenshot of where you can find it in Outlook 2007. http://imgur.com/pjgxe.png Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:43 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Thanks Jeremy, that sound like a workable solution, ok one more question, the From field in Outlook? *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:36 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook This would work fine but I see one potential issue; the user potentially doesn’t know which
RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook
On it now, as well as the SEA users group! Glad that Sherry mentioned it. From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook And you miss a lot of Exchange discussions by not being on that list! :( From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Yes, yes, I remember. I had the lasagna... I wasn't aware there was an NT group on this server. From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook ROFL. One of my favorite movies. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook It's a big Lyris server with Windows admins, but that's not important right now. -- ME2 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: What's the NT Admin list? From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook I love this list and the NT Admin list, I've looked like the hero many times with the assistance from the people here!! On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote: Ok, it's working, the user is happy and with the help from this list I'm an hero! Thanks all that participated and especially Jeremy ___ Stefan Jafs From: Troy Meyer [mailto:tme...@uoregon.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Jeremy is correct, if you grant 'Send-as' permission the from line can be used and it will appear from the other user/group. We used to do this extensively with resource and administrative users (think postmas...@x.com). If you are having issues sending on behalf rather than as, I would remove the 'send on behalf' permission from that account as you likely are not doing both. Sorry to interrupt your thread. -troy From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Does from here.and replies come back to the original senders email address. From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Nope, not if you grant Send As permissions. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic | Mobile: 540-322-7980 | Office: 425-949-1337 | Email: jere...@cohesivelogic.com From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook That will show as sent on behalf of best way is to create a new outlook profile for the extra smtp address and use that. S From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Create a new message, click over to Options and click on Show From. Once it's clicked you should see the From field in all new messages. One thing to remember is that leaving the From field blank will default to the mailbox address (jsm...@abc.com in the below message) - he'll only have to fill it in when selecting the DL as the sender. Here is a screenshot of where you can find it in Outlook 2007. http://imgur.com/pjgxe.png Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Thanks Jeremy, that sound like a workable solution, ok one more question, the From field in Outlook? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook This would work fine but I see one potential issue; the user potentially doesn't know which address the mail was sent to as it will just show his name in the To field. This is overcome with the DL solution. I generally ask the user to define
Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook
Welcome, and glad to assist. These lists/forums are awesome resources. On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.comwrote: On it now, as well as the SEA users group! Glad that Sherry mentioned it. -- *From:* Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2009 10:42 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook And you miss a lot of Exchange discussions by not being on that list! :( *From:* Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2009 11:06 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Yes, yes, I remember. I had the lasagna... I wasn't aware there was an NT group on this server. -- *From:* Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2009 9:28 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook ROFL. One of my favorite movies. *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2009 10:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook It's a big Lyris server with Windows admins, but that's not important right now. -- ME2 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: What's the NT Admin list? -- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:09 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook I love this list and the NT Admin list, I've looked like the hero many times with the assistance from the people here!! On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote: Ok, it’s working, the user is happy and with the help from this list I’m an hero! Thanks all that participated and especially Jeremy *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Troy Meyer [mailto:tme...@uoregon.edu] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:32 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Jeremy is correct, if you grant ‘Send-as’ permission the from line can be used and it will appear from the other user/group. We used to do this extensively with resource and administrative users (think postmas...@x.com ). If you are having issues sending on behalf rather than as, I would remove the ‘send on behalf’ permission from that account as you likely are not doing both. Sorry to interrupt your thread. -troy *From:* Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] *On Behalf Of *Exchange (Sunbelt) *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:24 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Does from here.and replies come back to the original senders email address. *From:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:14 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Nope, not if you grant Send As permissions. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic | Mobile: 540-322-7980 | Office: 425-949-1337 | Email: jere...@cohesivelogic.com *From:* Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] *On Behalf Of *Exchange (Sunbelt) *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:05 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook That will show as sent on behalf of best way is to create a new outlook profile for the extra smtp address and use that. S *From:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:51 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Create a new message, click over to Options and click on “Show From”. Once it’s clicked you should see the From field in all new messages. One thing to remember is that leaving the From field blank will default to the mailbox address (jsm...@abc.com in the below message) – he’ll only have to fill it in when selecting the DL as the sender. Here is a screenshot of where you can find it in Outlook 2007. http://imgur.com/pjgxe.png Thanks, Jeremy Phillips M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:43 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Send from different e-mail address in Outlook Thanks Jeremy, that sound like a workable solution, ok one more question, the From field in Outlook? *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:36 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Exchange PF Server Offline - PF Routing
We have a single routing group. We have 2 Exchange 2003 PF servers. We need to take 1 Exchange 2003 PF server offline for 2 days. What can we do to make sure that email to public folders don't route to the server that's offline? Thank you. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
My previous response (to the other thread) was incorrect. Apparently we're down to 2100 mailboxes Total SIS Ratio = 65 - Storage Group 1 (1250 Mailboxes) = 82 - Storage Group 2 (850 Mailboxes) = 35 - Sean On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
1.26 here. Joe P -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
1.46 92 mailboxes. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
14.5 184 mailboxes Exchange 2003 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
I'm seeing 226.771 on my Exchange 2003 box with about 130 mailboxes. Is that probable? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Is the Scale supposed to be at 1.000? If so, I've got a problem - mine is at 122.040. Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season The One You Love Celebrate with a 2009-2010 Subscription: La Boh?me, The Daughter of the Regiment, Don Giovanni and Porgy and BessSM Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
3.35 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
645 mailboxes = 49 -Paul From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey My previous response (to the other thread) was incorrect. Apparently we're down to 2100 mailboxes Total SIS Ratio = 65 - Storage Group 1 (1250 Mailboxes) = 82 - Storage Group 2 (850 Mailboxes) = 35 - Sean On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
I forgot to add...78 mailboxes... Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Is the Scale supposed to be at 1.000? If so, I've got a problem - mine is at 122.040. Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season The One You Love Celebrate with a 2009-2010 Subscription: La Boh?me, The Daughter of the Regiment, Don Giovanni and Porgy and BessSM Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season The One You Love Celebrate with a 2009-2010 Subscription: La Boh?me, The Daughter of the Regiment, Don Giovanni and Porgy and BessSM Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Reading this should help everyone understand what exactly the numbers mean. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198673 The number will vary greatly depending on the maturity of your server as well as the types of email most commonly used within your organization. TVK -Original Message- From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Is the Scale supposed to be at 1.000? If so, I've got a problem - mine is at 122.040. Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season The One You Love Celebrate with a 2009-2010 Subscription: La Boh?me, The Daughter of the Regiment, Don Giovanni and Porgy and BessSM Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
5.25 for 350 mailboxes On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
3.442 300 mailboxes E2K7 SP1 John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri May 29 14:13:07 2009 Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey 14.5 184 mailboxes Exchange 2003 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
From the Explain text on the counter: Single Instance Ratio is the average number of references to each message in the mailbox store. On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.com wrote: I'm seeing 226.771 on my Exchange 2003 box with about 130 mailboxes. Is that probable? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Therefore, having a number almost double the actual number of mailboxes on the server, while not impossible, would definitely be improbable. TVK From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey From the Explain text on the counter: Single Instance Ratio is the average number of references to each message in the mailbox store. On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.commailto:rwri...@evatone.com wrote: I'm seeing 226.771 on my Exchange 2003 box with about 130 mailboxes. Is that probable? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
3.663 for ~150 mailboxes... On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Auto discovery
Over the last few days a particular user calls me in the morning because she is unable to connect to the Exchange (2007) server using Outlook Anywhere. Each time I go into her mail profile and remove the check for Mutually authenticate the session when connecting SSL. After Googling around, I found that most people fix this by running the command get-OutlookProvider |fl, I see that the CertPrincipalName is blank for each of the 3 Providers (EXCH, EXPR and Web). In addition, EXPR does not have a server name listed. From what I have read, there should be a CertPrincipalName and the Server name listed for each. However, everything is working OK expect for (now) two users. I can use Auto Discovery to setup Outlook while offsite, and manually setting up the profile works. Is there anything else that could be causing this setting to keep checking itself on? Thanks. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
4.221 for about 450 mailboxes. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Interesting article. My previous place of employment was at a University. After the tragedy at Virginia Tech (which was only a couple of hours away from us) there was much concern about notifying the campus in the result of an emergency. They were using an e-mail system that was not Exchange and to my knowledge did not have SIS. So when they did their testing to notify students and employees by e-mail (one of several ways they were notifying people) they were actually opening up each person's mailbox and inserting the message. This resulted in an e-mail notification process that took 10-15 minutes. When they started looking at Exchange they were told by Microsoft that the time to send the message would be much shorter...mostly b/c of SIS (which the article TVK posted also indicates.) The talk on the NT SysAdmins list was mostly centered around disk space savings gained from SIS. But I'm wondering now how removing SIS from future versions of Exchange would impact sending e-mail to a large number of people. In the case of the University, the message might only be a few KB, but what is the cost to have to deliver that message to 20k individual mailboxes now? On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.comwrote: Reading this should help everyone understand what exactly the numbers mean. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198673 The number will vary greatly depending on the maturity of your server as well as the types of email most commonly used within your organization. TVK -Original Message- From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Is the Scale supposed to be at 1.000? If so, I've got a problem - mine is at 122.040. Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season The One You Love Celebrate with a 2009-2010 Subscription: La Boh?me, The Daughter of the Regiment, Don Giovanni and Porgy and BessSM Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
4.998 --- over 5k mailboxes. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
39.241 ~150 mailboxes E2003 -Original Message- From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey 4.998 --- over 5k mailboxes. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Interesting. 600 mailboxes 6.132 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
23.302 ~480 mailboxes E2K3 9 Information Stores On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com wrote: Interesting. 600 mailboxes 6.132 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
6.678 ~630 mailboxes -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Only checked my domestic clusters Svr 1: 22 SG/DB's w/ 1236 mbxs @ 8.321 Svr 2: 40 SG/DB's w/ 4270 mbxs @ 6.475 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey 3.442 300 mailboxes E2K7 SP1 John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri May 29 14:13:07 2009 Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey 14.5 184 mailboxes Exchange 2003 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Did you get those message count scripts to work? -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 3:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Only checked my domestic clusters Svr 1: 22 SG/DB's w/ 1236 mbxs @ 8.321 Svr 2: 40 SG/DB's w/ 4270 mbxs @ 6.475 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey 3.442 300 mailboxes E2K7 SP1 John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri May 29 14:13:07 2009 Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey 14.5 184 mailboxes Exchange 2003 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
One could easily make the argument that the higher the SI Ratio number is for your server (assuming it isn't a brand new server as detailed in the KB), the worse job your users are doing of cleaning their mailboxes regularly. Unless of course you are in the legal industry or something similar where all correspondence must be kept forever. TVK From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Interesting article. My previous place of employment was at a University. After the tragedy at Virginia Tech (which was only a couple of hours away from us) there was much concern about notifying the campus in the result of an emergency. They were using an e-mail system that was not Exchange and to my knowledge did not have SIS. So when they did their testing to notify students and employees by e-mail (one of several ways they were notifying people) they were actually opening up each person's mailbox and inserting the message. This resulted in an e-mail notification process that took 10-15 minutes. When they started looking at Exchange they were told by Microsoft that the time to send the message would be much shorter...mostly b/c of SIS (which the article TVK posted also indicates.) The talk on the NT SysAdmins list was mostly centered around disk space savings gained from SIS. But I'm wondering now how removing SIS from future versions of Exchange would impact sending e-mail to a large number of people. In the case of the University, the message might only be a few KB, but what is the cost to have to deliver that message to 20k individual mailboxes now? On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.commailto:tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: Reading this should help everyone understand what exactly the numbers mean. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198673 The number will vary greatly depending on the maturity of your server as well as the types of email most commonly used within your organization. TVK -Original Message- From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.orgmailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Is the Scale supposed to be at 1.000? If so, I've got a problem - mine is at 122.040. Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season The One You Love Celebrate with a 2009-2010 Subscription: La Boh?me, The Daughter of the Regiment, Don Giovanni and Porgy and BessSM Visit us online at www.vaopera.orghttp://www.vaopera.org/ or call 1-866-OPERA-VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: ... the higher the SI Ratio number ... the worse job your users are doing of cleaning their mailboxes regularly. This idea that one shouldn't use an email system to store email always seemed kind of strange to me. Keep in mind that I'm quite religious about filing mail. My inbox is usually empty, and my Inbox/todo folder typically has 20 messages in it. But I've got hundreds of folders of archived mail, all carefully sorted by project, application, category, etc. It totals around 500 MB for the four years I've been at this company. No idea how many messages. It's all in Public Folders, too, so that the rest of the IT department (i.e., one other guy :-) ) can find stuff if needed. Unless of course you are in the legal industry or something similar where all correspondence must be kept forever. Many people, including myself and many of my cow-orkers, are in the habit of retaining business correspondence forever, just on general principles. I know we've frequently encountered situations where a customer will come back to us five years later alleging something, and it's only been the saved mail which has saved our butts. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Yeah, but then you have the guys that try to keep every @#...@#% email since the dawn of time in their mailbox. At least you're archiving it off somewhere. I have guys that have up to (6) 2GB personal folders of stuff, only because I impose limits on the mailboxes. Okay, okay... fangs in... hackles down... -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: ... the higher the SI Ratio number ... the worse job your users are doing of cleaning their mailboxes regularly. This idea that one shouldn't use an email system to store email always seemed kind of strange to me. Keep in mind that I'm quite religious about filing mail. My inbox is usually empty, and my Inbox/todo folder typically has 20 messages in it. But I've got hundreds of folders of archived mail, all carefully sorted by project, application, category, etc. It totals around 500 MB for the four years I've been at this company. No idea how many messages. It's all in Public Folders, too, so that the rest of the IT department (i.e., one other guy :-) ) can find stuff if needed. Unless of course you are in the legal industry or something similar where all correspondence must be kept forever. Many people, including myself and many of my cow-orkers, are in the habit of retaining business correspondence forever, just on general principles. I know we've frequently encountered situations where a customer will come back to us five years later alleging something, and it's only been the saved mail which has saved our butts. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Those saved emails could just as easily sink your butts also, it's really a crapshoot. If you don't believe me just ask the good folks at Microsoft what an email saved too long can do. :-) TVK -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: ... the higher the SI Ratio number ... the worse job your users are doing of cleaning their mailboxes regularly. This idea that one shouldn't use an email system to store email always seemed kind of strange to me. Keep in mind that I'm quite religious about filing mail. My inbox is usually empty, and my Inbox/todo folder typically has 20 messages in it. But I've got hundreds of folders of archived mail, all carefully sorted by project, application, category, etc. It totals around 500 MB for the four years I've been at this company. No idea how many messages. It's all in Public Folders, too, so that the rest of the IT department (i.e., one other guy :-) ) can find stuff if needed. Unless of course you are in the legal industry or something similar where all correspondence must be kept forever. Many people, including myself and many of my cow-orkers, are in the habit of retaining business correspondence forever, just on general principles. I know we've frequently encountered situations where a customer will come back to us five years later alleging something, and it's only been the saved mail which has saved our butts. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
I'm curious how keeping mail forever fits into a policy about email retention for Federal Discovery (FRCP). I just have a hard time believing that people have policies saying they will keep their emails/documents forever; much less being able to produce them. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 5:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Yeah, but then you have the guys that try to keep every @#...@#% email since the dawn of time in their mailbox. At least you're archiving it off somewhere. I have guys that have up to (6) 2GB personal folders of stuff, only because I impose limits on the mailboxes. Okay, okay... fangs in... hackles down... -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: ... the higher the SI Ratio number ... the worse job your users are doing of cleaning their mailboxes regularly. This idea that one shouldn't use an email system to store email always seemed kind of strange to me. Keep in mind that I'm quite religious about filing mail. My inbox is usually empty, and my Inbox/todo folder typically has 20 messages in it. But I've got hundreds of folders of archived mail, all carefully sorted by project, application, category, etc. It totals around 500 MB for the four years I've been at this company. No idea how many messages. It's all in Public Folders, too, so that the rest of the IT department (i.e., one other guy :-) ) can find stuff if needed. Unless of course you are in the legal industry or something similar where all correspondence must be kept forever. Many people, including myself and many of my cow-orkers, are in the habit of retaining business correspondence forever, just on general principles. I know we've frequently encountered situations where a customer will come back to us five years later alleging something, and it's only been the saved mail which has saved our butts. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
I am not saying that all email should be deleted, but as the KB points out, where high numbers come from is when 1 message is sent to hundreds of different mailboxes. I would argue that when that happens, rarely should those messages be kept by all hundreds of recipients for a long period of time. It probably applies to a small subset of those who received it, or it is the typical Don't forget the company picnic this weekend stuff, that everyone gets and not nearly enough people get rid of. Rarely will an email that will save your company's bacon be received by over 100 recipients at one time. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that it would be rare. That is why I would say that on a mature server a number in the 100 range or higher shows a lack of good email hygiene on the server in question. TVK -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: ... the higher the SI Ratio number ... the worse job your users are doing of cleaning their mailboxes regularly. This idea that one shouldn't use an email system to store email always seemed kind of strange to me. Keep in mind that I'm quite religious about filing mail. My inbox is usually empty, and my Inbox/todo folder typically has 20 messages in it. But I've got hundreds of folders of archived mail, all carefully sorted by project, application, category, etc. It totals around 500 MB for the four years I've been at this company. No idea how many messages. It's all in Public Folders, too, so that the rest of the IT department (i.e., one other guy :-) ) can find stuff if needed. Unless of course you are in the legal industry or something similar where all correspondence must be kept forever. Many people, including myself and many of my cow-orkers, are in the habit of retaining business correspondence forever, just on general principles. I know we've frequently encountered situations where a customer will come back to us five years later alleging something, and it's only been the saved mail which has saved our butts. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
E2K3 15,000 users, 14 DB x 200GB each, SIS average 2.43 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 30 May 2009 3:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Adding: 1)Number of users on server 2)Approximate age of server since installation (or DB creation) might be interesting as well. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
Doesn't seem like it should be with anything I'd consider normal user behavior. -sc -Original Message- From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey I'm seeing 226.771 on my Exchange 2003 box with about 130 mailboxes. Is that probable? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
It's a ratio, so no. -sc -Original Message- From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Is the Scale supposed to be at 1.000? If so, I've got a problem - mine is at 122.040. Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Hi all, A thread on nt-sysadmin has got me wondering. Just how much do people actually benefit from SIS (Single Instance Storage) in Exchange? Would people be willing to share their SIS ratio from their Exchange server(s)? Approximations are fine. For multi-server organizations, an average or just picking a server at random would still inform. I'll start: SIS ratio = 5.6 You can discover the SIS ratio by: 1. Open Performance Monitor (PERFMON.EXE) 2. Select System Monitor on the left 3. Right-click the graph on the right, and pick Add Counters 4. For Performance Object, select MSExchangeIS Mailbox (or similar) 5. Select the Single Instance Ratio counter in the list on the left 6. Select the _ Total instance in the list on the right 7. Click Add 8. If needed, select the resulting counter in the list at the bottom of the graph 9. Look at the Last value reported for that counter -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season The One You Love Celebrate with a 2009-2010 Subscription: La Boh?me, The Daughter of the Regiment, Don Giovanni and Porgy and BessSM Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey
We have some users wonder why opening their 20GB .pst (yes, _TWENTY_) from a file share slows Outlook down. Removing the 2GB .pst limit may be the biggest dis-service MS has ever done us. ;-) -sc -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 5:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Single Instance Storage ratio survey Yeah, but then you have the guys that try to keep every @#...@#% email since the dawn of time in their mailbox. At least you're archiving it off somewhere. I have guys that have up to (6) 2GB personal folders of stuff, only because I impose limits on the mailboxes. Okay, okay... fangs in... hackles down... -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Single Instance Storage ratio survey On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: ... the higher the SI Ratio number ... the worse job your users are doing of cleaning their mailboxes regularly. This idea that one shouldn't use an email system to store email always seemed kind of strange to me. Keep in mind that I'm quite religious about filing mail. My inbox is usually empty, and my Inbox/todo folder typically has 20 messages in it. But I've got hundreds of folders of archived mail, all carefully sorted by project, application, category, etc. It totals around 500 MB for the four years I've been at this company. No idea how many messages. It's all in Public Folders, too, so that the rest of the IT department (i.e., one other guy :-) ) can find stuff if needed. Unless of course you are in the legal industry or something similar where all correspondence must be kept forever. Many people, including myself and many of my cow-orkers, are in the habit of retaining business correspondence forever, just on general principles. I know we've frequently encountered situations where a customer will come back to us five years later alleging something, and it's only been the saved mail which has saved our butts. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
