RE: Exchange 2010 sp2
It might have been worth waiting. The bugs fixed in SP2 RU1 aren't minor. We're happily running SP2 RU2 here. Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal Infrastructure Engineer Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk From: steve ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: 23 May 2012 19:40 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 sp2 LOL - the RSS feed perhaps just got updated? Sent from my BlackBird. From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG jhea...@dfg.ca.govmailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 18:02:58 + To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 sp2 Aww, Steve got a late Christmas present. Congrats! From: Jim Kennedy [kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:36 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 sp2 New to you. :) It came out in December. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010 sp2 is out...that's new isnt it? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Hoople Ltd. You should be aware that Hoople Ltd. monitors its email service. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147
SMB2 caching is not a problem on Windows 2003. There are some fileserver tuning values that you can adjust on 2003, but I don't know if they'll help or not. See: http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/fix-for-stuttering-corrupted-streaming-of-live-tv.91214/page-24 Windows 2003 and Exchange 2007 are a fairly rare combination in 2012. It's entirely possible you've run into an edge-case bug. -Original Message- From: foconn...@ie.ibm.com [mailto:foconn...@ie.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147 Hi I have a Windows 2003 CCR on Exchange 2007 SP3 R6. On one of the 3 Storage groups I have a failed copy status. And the following events are logged Log file action LogCopy failed for storage group MailSrv\MailStore4. Reason: Access to the path '\\cms1\30ecd310-0116-4031-b730-2fc8b28dcd8d$' is denied. There was a problem with 'cms1', which is an alternate name for 'CMS1'. The list of aliases is now 'cms1', and the alias 'was' removed from the list. The specific problem is 'Access to the path '\\cms1\30ecd310-0116-4031-b730-2fc8b28dcd8d$' is denied.'. The other storage groups are fine. I have tried to stop the replication service - delete the logs and the mail stores for the passive node and reseed the database. This has not fixed the issue. I have seen a lot of suggested fixes which should be fixed in SP2 and SP3 - also relatd articles in Windows 2008. Can somebody suggest a fix for this? Is this applicable to Windows 2003? http://problemgone.blogspot.com/2010/12/msexchange-repl-2104-logcopy-failed.html --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147
I just don't understand why it works for 2 Storage groups but not this one! Is there a work around that I could try implement? Like moving all the users on that mail store to another mail store and then deleting the problematic storage group - but I would rather not have to do that if at all possible. I am also in the middle of restoring mailboxes to that mail store due to a legal issue - if I delete this mail store now will this affect the restores using an RSG Regards Fergal O'Connell ICT Network Support Cúram Software an IBM company From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com, Date: 24/05/2012 12:36 Subject:RE: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147 SMB2 caching is not a problem on Windows 2003. There are some fileserver tuning values that you can adjust on 2003, but I don't know if they'll help or not. See: http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/fix-for-stuttering-corrupted-streaming-of-live-tv.91214/page-24 Windows 2003 and Exchange 2007 are a fairly rare combination in 2012. It's entirely possible you've run into an edge-case bug. -Original Message- From: foconn...@ie.ibm.com [mailto:foconn...@ie.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147 Hi I have a Windows 2003 CCR on Exchange 2007 SP3 R6. On one of the 3 Storage groups I have a failed copy status. And the following events are logged Log file action LogCopy failed for storage group MailSrv\MailStore4. Reason: Access to the path '\\cms1\30ecd310-0116-4031-b730-2fc8b28dcd8d$' is denied. There was a problem with 'cms1', which is an alternate name for 'CMS1'. The list of aliases is now 'cms1', and the alias 'was' removed from the list. The specific problem is 'Access to the path '\\cms1\30ecd310-0116-4031-b730-2fc8b28dcd8d$' is denied.'. The other storage groups are fine. I have tried to stop the replication service - delete the logs and the mail stores for the passive node and reseed the database. This has not fixed the issue. I have seen a lot of suggested fixes which should be fixed in SP2 and SP3 - also relatd articles in Windows 2008. Can somebody suggest a fix for this? Is this applicable to Windows 2003? http://problemgone.blogspot.com/2010/12/msexchange-repl-2104-logcopy-failed.html --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147
Then I'd open a CSS call. This isn't common enough that I've seen it. Perhaps simonB or stevieG or someone else has? From: Fergal O'Connell1 [mailto:foconn...@ie.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147 I just don't understand why it works for 2 Storage groups but not this one! Is there a work around that I could try implement? Like moving all the users on that mail store to another mail store and then deleting the problematic storage group - but I would rather not have to do that if at all possible. I am also in the middle of restoring mailboxes to that mail store due to a legal issue - if I delete this mail store now will this affect the restores using an RSG Regards Fergal O'Connell ICT Network Support Cúram Software an IBM company From:Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com, Date:24/05/2012 12:36 Subject:RE: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147 SMB2 caching is not a problem on Windows 2003. There are some fileserver tuning values that you can adjust on 2003, but I don't know if they'll help or not. See: http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/fix-for-stuttering-corrupted-streaming-of-live-tv.91214/page-24 Windows 2003 and Exchange 2007 are a fairly rare combination in 2012. It's entirely possible you've run into an edge-case bug. -Original Message- From: foconn...@ie.ibm.commailto:foconn...@ie.ibm.com [mailto:foconn...@ie.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147 Hi I have a Windows 2003 CCR on Exchange 2007 SP3 R6. On one of the 3 Storage groups I have a failed copy status. And the following events are logged Log file action LogCopy failed for storage group MailSrv\MailStore4. Reason: Access to the path '\\cms1\30ecd310-0116-4031-b730-2fc8b28dcd8d$' is denied. There was a problem with 'cms1', which is an alternate name for 'CMS1'. The list of aliases is now 'cms1', and the alias 'was' removed from the list. The specific problem is 'Access to the path '\\cms1\30ecd310-0116-4031-b730-2fc8b28dcd8d$' is denied.'. The other storage groups are fine. I have tried to stop the replication service - delete the logs and the mail stores for the passive node and reseed the database. This has not fixed the issue. I have seen a lot of suggested fixes which should be fixed in SP2 and SP3 - also relatd articles in Windows 2008. Can somebody suggest a fix for this? Is this applicable to Windows 2003? http://problemgone.blogspot.com/2010/12/msexchange-repl-2104-logcopy-failed.html --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Dag transaction logs truncate.
What about public folder replicas, do you just set the remote end to Circular logging? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 12:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. Cheers guys for all your help. From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. So as long as I backup just the Active node and truncate the logs during, this will cause the passive node to clear the logs on its own? From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]mailto:[mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:46 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dag transaction logs truncate. A proper successful backup that clears log files will get all copies. Blackberry From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 06:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Dag transaction logs truncate. Two node Dag over two Sites. On the far end passive copy, do I need to turn on Circular logging to deal with the log files? Regards, Paul. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Dag transaction logs truncate.
With public folders, there is no “remote end”. They are multi-master, just like AD. (Where do you think AD got that idea?) Circular logging depends on your RTO and policy needs. For example – what should you do if the Prime Minister’s administrative assistant deleted (oops!) a public folder 15 days ago? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. What about public folder replicas, do you just set the remote end to Circular logging? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 12:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. Cheers guys for all your help. From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. So as long as I backup just the Active node and truncate the logs during, this will cause the passive node to clear the logs on its own? From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]mailto:[mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:46 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dag transaction logs truncate. A proper successful backup that clears log files will get all copies. Blackberry From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 06:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Dag transaction logs truncate. Two node Dag over two Sites. On the far end passive copy, do I need to turn on Circular logging to deal with the log files? Regards, Paul. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Dag transaction logs truncate.
Can't DAG Public Folders. Blackberry From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 09:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. What about public folder replicas, do you just set the remote end to Circular logging? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 12:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. Cheers guys for all your help. From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. So as long as I backup just the Active node and truncate the logs during, this will cause the passive node to clear the logs on its own? From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]mailto:[mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:46 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dag transaction logs truncate. A proper successful backup that clears log files will get all copies. Blackberry From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 06:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Dag transaction logs truncate. Two node Dag over two Sites. On the far end passive copy, do I need to turn on Circular logging to deal with the log files? Regards, Paul. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Dag transaction logs truncate.
Oh, that sounds ominous. Do you have a story you can tell us?! From: bounce-9518630-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9518630-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 24 May 2012 14:17 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. With public folders, there is no “remote end”. They are multi-master, just like AD. (Where do you think AD got that idea?) Circular logging depends on your RTO and policy needs. For example – what should you do if the Prime Minister’s administrative assistant deleted (oops!) a public folder 15 days ago? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Dag transaction logs truncate.
What I was after is a recommendation for replicated Public Folders Two Nodes in my Dag and I understand that if I backup the primary and flush logs the remote end should follow but if I replicate Public folders the primary logs are taken care of by the backup flush but how would you deal with the remote PF logs, circular logging? Sorry for not explaining enough. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 24 May 2012 14:17 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. With public folders, there is no “remote end”. They are multi-master, just like AD. (Where do you think AD got that idea?) Circular logging depends on your RTO and policy needs. For example – what should you do if the Prime Minister’s administrative assistant deleted (oops!) a public folder 15 days ago? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. What about public folder replicas, do you just set the remote end to Circular logging? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 12:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. Cheers guys for all your help. From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. So as long as I backup just the Active node and truncate the logs during, this will cause the passive node to clear the logs on its own? From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]mailto:[mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:46 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dag transaction logs truncate. A proper successful backup that clears log files will get all copies. Blackberry From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 06:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Dag transaction logs truncate. Two node Dag over two Sites. On the far end passive copy, do I need to turn on Circular logging to deal with the log files? Regards, Paul. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Dag transaction logs truncate.
Oh, the OP had a UK address, so I just thought I’d give an example that would be relevant to y’all. ☺ From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. Oh, that sounds ominous. Do you have a story you can tell us?! From: bounce-9518630-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:bounce-9518630-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9518630-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]mailto:[mailto:bounce-9518630-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 24 May 2012 14:17 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. With public folders, there is no “remote end”. They are multi-master, just like AD. (Where do you think AD got that idea?) Circular logging depends on your RTO and policy needs. For example – what should you do if the Prime Minister’s administrative assistant deleted (oops!) a public folder 15 days ago? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Dag transaction logs truncate.
The correct answer in any case would probably be… It’s only Parliament, it’s not that important, it’s not as if it’s anything important like civil service mail systems. This is the answer I was given when interviewing for the job of running parliaments exchange and asked if they had any specific security concerns. J From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: 24 May 2012 14:31 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. Oh, that sounds ominous. Do you have a story you can tell us?! From: bounce-9518630-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9518630-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 24 May 2012 14:17 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. With public folders, there is no “remote end”. They are multi-master, just like AD. (Where do you think AD got that idea?) Circular logging depends on your RTO and policy needs. For example – what should you do if the Prime Minister’s administrative assistant deleted (oops!) a public folder 15 days ago? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist This electronic message contains information from CACI International Inc or subsidiary companies, which may be confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be used solely by the recipient(s) named above. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this transmission or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us immediately at postmas...@caci.co.uk Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. CACI Limited. Registered in England Wales. Registration No. 1649776. CACI House, Avonmore Road, London, W14 8TS. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Dag transaction logs truncate.
Oh, now I understand. Yes, circular logging. From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. What I was after is a recommendation for replicated Public Folders Two Nodes in my Dag and I understand that if I backup the primary and flush logs the remote end should follow but if I replicate Public folders the primary logs are taken care of by the backup flush but how would you deal with the remote PF logs, circular logging? Sorry for not explaining enough. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 24 May 2012 14:17 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. With public folders, there is no “remote end”. They are multi-master, just like AD. (Where do you think AD got that idea?) Circular logging depends on your RTO and policy needs. For example – what should you do if the Prime Minister’s administrative assistant deleted (oops!) a public folder 15 days ago? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. What about public folder replicas, do you just set the remote end to Circular logging? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 12:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. Cheers guys for all your help. From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. So as long as I backup just the Active node and truncate the logs during, this will cause the passive node to clear the logs on its own? From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]mailto:[mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:46 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dag transaction logs truncate. A proper successful backup that clears log files will get all copies. Blackberry From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 06:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Dag transaction logs truncate. Two node Dag over two Sites. On the far end passive copy, do I need to turn on Circular logging to deal with the log files? Regards, Paul. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: No tape Exchange 2010
We were told that if we were running at least a 3 server DAG and that one of the databases lagged behind the other two at a DR site, that tape backups wouldn't be necessary. The lagging database was in order to recover in case the database became corrupted and replicated. I'm not that trusting. I still believe in good ol' fashioned tape backups. I think of it as insurance. If you think you can get by without maximum coverage you can pay less of a premium. -Paul From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No tape Exchange 2010 Is there anyone here running Exchange 2010/DAG and not doing tape backups? In our primary site we have 4 mailbox hosts with an active and inactive copy of all DB's, DR site has 2 hosts with inactive copies of most DB's. We have about 8 TB of mail in the primary site and another 6TB in the DR site. 6500 active mailboxes, 15% quota at 2GB (faculty staff) the remainder at 1GB (students). We then have an additional 20,000+ 20MB alumni mailboxes that we don't include in DR. Tape backups in the primary site are getting, well, rather unwieldy. We currently use TSM with the Exchange TDP to spin copies of the inactive DB's to tape at the primary site. We're considering adding a lag copy in our DR site to cover DB corruption risk. As far as we can tell, the only reason we still would need to spin to tape is to recover a deleted mailbox. We're currently hanging onto those for 30 days in Exchange and in theory could extend that period to cover that risk. We don't offer item level recovery for users from tape, we hold deleted items for 14 days so they can do it themselves. Looking through our tickets we see that we've only done 3 restores from tape in the past 6 months, 2 for accidentally deleted mailboxes and 1 from a subpoena. All three of them were over the 30 day Exchange deleted mailbox policy but within the 90 day window we keep backups in TSM. Looking for any thoughts from other people not spinning Exchange 2010 to tape anymore. Darren Young Systems Security Architect Computing Services University of Chicago Booth School of Business 5807 South Woodlawn Avenue Chicago, IL 60637 Voice 773.702.0331 | Fax 773.702.0233 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Dag transaction logs truncate.
+1. Don’t want to back up 2 x 200+GB PF stores, back up one of them and circular log the other. Job’s a good’un. From: bounce-9518661-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9518661-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 24 May 2012 15:27 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. Oh, now I understand. Yes, circular logging. From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. What I was after is a recommendation for replicated Public Folders Two Nodes in my Dag and I understand that if I backup the primary and flush logs the remote end should follow but if I replicate Public folders the primary logs are taken care of by the backup flush but how would you deal with the remote PF logs, circular logging? Sorry for not explaining enough. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 24 May 2012 14:17 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. With public folders, there is no “remote end”. They are multi-master, just like AD. (Where do you think AD got that idea?) Circular logging depends on your RTO and policy needs. For example – what should you do if the Prime Minister’s administrative assistant deleted (oops!) a public folder 15 days ago? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. What about public folder replicas, do you just set the remote end to Circular logging? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 12:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. Cheers guys for all your help. From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. So as long as I backup just the Active node and truncate the logs during, this will cause the passive node to clear the logs on its own? From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]mailto:[mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:46 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dag transaction logs truncate. A proper successful backup that clears log files will get all copies. Blackberry From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 06:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Dag transaction logs truncate. Two node Dag over two Sites. On the far end passive copy, do I need to turn on Circular logging to deal with the log files? Regards, Paul. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
RE: Dag transaction logs truncate.
Thank you. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 24 May 2012 15:27 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. Oh, now I understand. Yes, circular logging. From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. What I was after is a recommendation for replicated Public Folders Two Nodes in my Dag and I understand that if I backup the primary and flush logs the remote end should follow but if I replicate Public folders the primary logs are taken care of by the backup flush but how would you deal with the remote PF logs, circular logging? Sorry for not explaining enough. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 24 May 2012 14:17 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. With public folders, there is no “remote end”. They are multi-master, just like AD. (Where do you think AD got that idea?) Circular logging depends on your RTO and policy needs. For example – what should you do if the Prime Minister’s administrative assistant deleted (oops!) a public folder 15 days ago? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. What about public folder replicas, do you just set the remote end to Circular logging? From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 12:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. Cheers guys for all your help. From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dag transaction logs truncate. So as long as I backup just the Active node and truncate the logs during, this will cause the passive node to clear the logs on its own? From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]mailto:[mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: 22 May 2012 11:46 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dag transaction logs truncate. A proper successful backup that clears log files will get all copies. Blackberry From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 06:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Dag transaction logs truncate. Two node Dag over two Sites. On the far end passive copy, do I need to turn on Circular logging to deal with the log files? Regards, Paul. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: No tape Exchange 2010
In our case right now the premium is time, not $$. We have ample capacity in our tape library, it just takes forever to send many many (many) TB to tape even over 4GB fiber to LTO-4 drives. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No tape Exchange 2010 We were told that if we were running at least a 3 server DAG and that one of the databases lagged behind the other two at a DR site, that tape backups wouldn't be necessary. The lagging database was in order to recover in case the database became corrupted and replicated. I'm not that trusting. I still believe in good ol' fashioned tape backups. I think of it as insurance. If you think you can get by without maximum coverage you can pay less of a premium. -Paul From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu]mailto:[mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No tape Exchange 2010 Is there anyone here running Exchange 2010/DAG and not doing tape backups? In our primary site we have 4 mailbox hosts with an active and inactive copy of all DB's, DR site has 2 hosts with inactive copies of most DB's. We have about 8 TB of mail in the primary site and another 6TB in the DR site. 6500 active mailboxes, 15% quota at 2GB (faculty staff) the remainder at 1GB (students). We then have an additional 20,000+ 20MB alumni mailboxes that we don't include in DR. Tape backups in the primary site are getting, well, rather unwieldy. We currently use TSM with the Exchange TDP to spin copies of the inactive DB's to tape at the primary site. We're considering adding a lag copy in our DR site to cover DB corruption risk. As far as we can tell, the only reason we still would need to spin to tape is to recover a deleted mailbox. We're currently hanging onto those for 30 days in Exchange and in theory could extend that period to cover that risk. We don't offer item level recovery for users from tape, we hold deleted items for 14 days so they can do it themselves. Looking through our tickets we see that we've only done 3 restores from tape in the past 6 months, 2 for accidentally deleted mailboxes and 1 from a subpoena. All three of them were over the 30 day Exchange deleted mailbox policy but within the 90 day window we keep backups in TSM. Looking for any thoughts from other people not spinning Exchange 2010 to tape anymore. Darren Young Systems Security Architect Computing Services University of Chicago Booth School of Business 5807 South Woodlawn Avenue Chicago, IL 60637 Voice 773.702.0331 | Fax 773.702.0233 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: No tape Exchange 2010
Could you elaborate on what the root cause of that one instance was? From: Rupprecht, James R. [mailto:jimruppre...@ku.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:11 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No tape Exchange 2010 We currently run a three-replica DAG in Exchange 2010 and had discussed not spinning tape when we stood it up. In the end we decided to let DPM 2010 back it up and spin tape once a week. Our backup window is only 14 days. Deleted item recovery is set to 14 days and deleted mailbox recovery is set to 28 days. We have encountered one instance where none of the three database copies of a particular database was mountable and we had to roll back from DPM in order to restore service lossless. Not sure if a lagged copy would have helped in this situation. Jim Rupprecht University of Kansas From: Bolser, Scott [mailto:scott.bol...@childrens.harvard.edu]mailto:[mailto:scott.bol...@childrens.harvard.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No tape Exchange 2010 We're currently building out our DB lag environment to complete our tape elimination project. We have a multi-site DAG with single item recovery enabled equal to our current tape retention policy. The DB lag environment will provide protection against db corruption. Deleted mailbox retention will be set to equal our current tape retention policy in case a restore is needed for a legal or hr investigation. From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No tape Exchange 2010 Is there anyone here running Exchange 2010/DAG and not doing tape backups? In our primary site we have 4 mailbox hosts with an active and inactive copy of all DB's, DR site has 2 hosts with inactive copies of most DB's. We have about 8 TB of mail in the primary site and another 6TB in the DR site. 6500 active mailboxes, 15% quota at 2GB (faculty staff) the remainder at 1GB (students). We then have an additional 20,000+ 20MB alumni mailboxes that we don't include in DR. Tape backups in the primary site are getting, well, rather unwieldy. We currently use TSM with the Exchange TDP to spin copies of the inactive DB's to tape at the primary site. We're considering adding a lag copy in our DR site to cover DB corruption risk. As far as we can tell, the only reason we still would need to spin to tape is to recover a deleted mailbox. We're currently hanging onto those for 30 days in Exchange and in theory could extend that period to cover that risk. We don't offer item level recovery for users from tape, we hold deleted items for 14 days so they can do it themselves. Looking through our tickets we see that we've only done 3 restores from tape in the past 6 months, 2 for accidentally deleted mailboxes and 1 from a subpoena. All three of them were over the 30 day Exchange deleted mailbox policy but within the 90 day window we keep backups in TSM. Looking for any thoughts from other people not spinning Exchange 2010 to tape anymore. Darren Young Systems Security Architect Computing Services University of Chicago Booth School of Business 5807 South Woodlawn Avenue Chicago, IL 60637 Voice 773.702.0331 | Fax 773.702.0233 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: No tape Exchange 2010
Thanks, that's fine. Creepy that a single mailbox can kill an entire store. From: Rupprecht, James R. [mailto:jimruppre...@ku.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No tape Exchange 2010 The real answer is that they could not figure it out (we actually shipped the database to Microsoft). The best guess is that we had a single corrupt mailbox that caused corruption in the database indexes. Prior to the issue one mailbox in the database was generating a warning. When I rolled back from tape and replayed logs the database mounted but fell over again within a few minutes. I restored/replayed a second time and then immediately moved the suspect mailbox. The database was stable after that. We did still move all the users out of the database and then delete and recreate it just to be safe. FWIW, here is the error we were seeing when the database failed: Error server name 113 ExchangeStoreDB Database recovery N/A At '11/11/2011 12:20:33 AM' database copy 'database name' on this server appears to have a serious error which is unlikely to be resolved by a failover. Consult the Event log on the server for other storage and 'ExchangeStoreDb' events for more specific information about the failure. Service recovery was not attempted. I don't have the event the problem mailbox was throwing immediately available right now but I do remember that it was only a 'warning' not an 'error'. Jim From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu]mailto:[mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No tape Exchange 2010 Could you elaborate on what the root cause of that one instance was? From: Rupprecht, James R. [mailto:jimruppre...@ku.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:11 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No tape Exchange 2010 We currently run a three-replica DAG in Exchange 2010 and had discussed not spinning tape when we stood it up. In the end we decided to let DPM 2010 back it up and spin tape once a week. Our backup window is only 14 days. Deleted item recovery is set to 14 days and deleted mailbox recovery is set to 28 days. We have encountered one instance where none of the three database copies of a particular database was mountable and we had to roll back from DPM in order to restore service lossless. Not sure if a lagged copy would have helped in this situation. Jim Rupprecht University of Kansas From: Bolser, Scott [mailto:scott.bol...@childrens.harvard.edu]mailto:[mailto:scott.bol...@childrens.harvard.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No tape Exchange 2010 We're currently building out our DB lag environment to complete our tape elimination project. We have a multi-site DAG with single item recovery enabled equal to our current tape retention policy. The DB lag environment will provide protection against db corruption. Deleted mailbox retention will be set to equal our current tape retention policy in case a restore is needed for a legal or hr investigation. From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No tape Exchange 2010 Is there anyone here running Exchange 2010/DAG and not doing tape backups? In our primary site we have 4 mailbox hosts with an active and inactive copy of all DB's, DR site has 2 hosts with inactive copies of most DB's. We have about 8 TB of mail in the primary site and another 6TB in the DR site. 6500 active mailboxes, 15% quota at 2GB (faculty staff) the remainder at 1GB (students). We then have an additional 20,000+ 20MB alumni mailboxes that we don't include in DR. Tape backups in the primary site are getting, well, rather unwieldy. We currently use TSM with the Exchange TDP to spin copies of the inactive DB's to tape at the primary site. We're considering adding a lag copy in our DR site to cover DB corruption risk. As far as we can tell, the only reason we still would need to spin to tape is to recover a deleted mailbox. We're currently hanging onto those for 30 days in Exchange and in theory could extend that period to cover that risk. We don't offer item level recovery for users from tape, we hold deleted items for 14 days so they can do it themselves. Looking through our tickets we see that we've only done 3 restores from tape in the past 6 months, 2 for accidentally deleted mailboxes and 1 from a subpoena. All three of them were over the 30 day Exchange deleted mailbox policy but within the 90 day window we keep backups in TSM. Looking for any thoughts from other people not spinning Exchange 2010 to tape anymore. Darren Young Systems Security Architect Computing Services University of Chicago Booth School of Business 5807 South Woodlawn Avenue Chicago, IL 60637 Voice 773.702.0331 | Fax 773.702.0233 --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: No tape Exchange 2010
I’m not that trusting. I still believe in good ol’ fashioned tape backups. I think of it as insurance Just out of curiousity, how often do you test the tapes and where do they get stored? From: pmaglin...@scvl.com To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: No tape Exchange 2010 Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:51:36 + We were told that if we were running at least a 3 server DAG and that one of the databases lagged behind the other two at a DR site, that tape backups wouldn’t be necessary. The lagging database was in order to recover in case the database became corrupted and replicated. I’m not that trusting. I still believe in good ol’ fashioned tape backups. I think of it as insurance. If you think you can get by without maximum coverage you can pay less of a premium. -Paul From: Young, Darren [mailto:darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No tape Exchange 2010 Is there anyone here running Exchange 2010/DAG and not doing tape backups? In our primary site we have 4 mailbox hosts with an active and inactive copy of all DB’s, DR site has 2 hosts with inactive copies of most DB’s. We have about 8 TB of mail in the primary site and another 6TB in the DR site. 6500 active mailboxes, 15% quota at 2GB (faculty staff) the remainder at 1GB (students). We then have an additional 20,000+ 20MB alumni mailboxes that we don’t include in DR. Tape backups in the primary site are getting, well, rather unwieldy. We currently use TSM with the Exchange TDP to spin copies of the inactive DB’s to tape at the primary site. We’re considering adding a lag copy in our DR site to cover DB corruption risk. As far as we can tell, the only reason we still would need to spin to tape is to recover a deleted mailbox. We’re currently hanging onto those for 30 days in Exchange and in theory could extend that period to cover that risk. We don’t offer item level recovery for users from tape, we hold deleted items for 14 days so they can do it themselves. Looking through our tickets we see that we’ve only done 3 restores from tape in the past 6 months, 2 for “accidentally” deleted mailboxes and 1 from a subpoena. All three of them were over the 30 day Exchange deleted mailbox policy but within the 90 day window we keep backups in TSM. Looking for any thoughts from other people not spinning Exchange 2010 to tape anymore. Darren Young Systems Security Architect Computing Services University of Chicago Booth School of Business 5807 South Woodlawn Avenue Chicago, IL 60637 Voice 773.702.0331 | Fax 773.702.0233 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010 sp2
Yeah, we installed SP2 back in January, but I have a colleague who is hesitant about installing RU2. (eyeroll) fortunately we are not in production yet.. Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE On May 24, 2012 5:38 AM, Randal, Phil phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk wrote: It might have been worth waiting. The bugs fixed in SP2 RU1 aren’t minor. We’re happily running SP2 RU2 here. Cheers, Phil -- *Phil Randal* *Infrastructure Engineer* *Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT* Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk *From:* steve ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 23 May 2012 19:40 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange 2010 sp2 LOL - the RSS feed perhaps just got updated? Sent from my BlackBird. -- *From: *Heaton, Joseph@DFG jhea...@dfg.ca.gov *Date: *Wed, 23 May 2012 18:02:58 + *To: *MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Exchange 2010 sp2 Aww, Steve got a late Christmas present. Congrats! -- *From:* Jim Kennedy [kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:36 AM *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2010 sp2 New to you. J It came out in December. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:33 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Exchange 2010 sp2 is out...that's new isnt it? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist “Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Hoople Ltd. You should be aware that Hoople Ltd. monitors its email service. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
