RE: Retention policy and changes to individual mailboxes
Litigation Hold? Export-PST? Dave Wade 0161 474 5456 From: xyz [mailto:x...@minneapolis.edu] Sent: 11 January 2013 02:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Retention policy and changes to individual mailboxes (Sent twice today but never saw it arrive. My test email went through tonight so resending this post again). Greetings, Exchange 2010 SP2 UR3 We have a 270 day mailbox retention policy on most mailboxes. I have a mailbox where I want to remove that policy to make sure some old emails don't get deleted. Easy enough removing policy from mailbox and I see it immediately does not apply the policy to emails received after removal so they are OK. However, how long will it take to remove the retention policy from the existing emails? Is that done by some type of overnight scheduled process? I have made sure to check in online mode and in OUTLOOK WEB APP and still see the retention expiration dates in place on the existing mail. I will check again in the morning. Thanks for any suggestions. Dana --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Find out whether you could save money on your energy bills and register for the Greater Manchester Energy Switch scheme by 29 January 2013 at www.gmfairenergy.com Confidentiality:- This email, its contents and any attachments are intended only for the above named. As the email may contain confidential or legally privileged information, if you are not, or suspect that you are not, the above named or the person responsible for delivery of the message to the above named, please delete or destroy the email and any attachments immediately and inform the sender of the error. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Antispam online choices
I've been using FOPE for at least 3 years and have found it to be really good. There are one or two flexibility issues with some of the rules and allowing users to release their own emails but other than that it works great. Just watch out if you intend to mix FOPE and Office365. There are a couple of gotchas there. Sent on the run! On 11 Jan 2013, at 12:14, Alexander Rose arose...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, First of all happy new year to all, and i would like to particularly thanks all of you as today is the official day i retired all Exchange 2003 servers from my domain and I have a fully working Exchange 2010 email domain. I am very grateful for the support some of you guys provided here and i learnt a lot which is the most important to me. I was hoping i could get some feedback about online spam protection, my company is moving away from Barracuda Online and management wants me to choose between Forefront Online (it is included in our Enterprise CALs) or Symantec online spam protection. If any of you has experience with this product and thus can provide some comparison points, i'd be really glad to hear it. Thanks again to you all. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Antispam online choices
FOPE is a good product. From: Alexander Rose [mailto:arose...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 5:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antispam online choices Hi everyone, First of all happy new year to all, and i would like to particularly thanks all of you as today is the official day i retired all Exchange 2003 servers from my domain and I have a fully working Exchange 2010 email domain. I am very grateful for the support some of you guys provided here and i learnt a lot which is the most important to me. I was hoping i could get some feedback about online spam protection, my company is moving away from Barracuda Online and management wants me to choose between Forefront Online (it is included in our Enterprise CALs) or Symantec online spam protection. If any of you has experience with this product and thus can provide some comparison points, i'd be really glad to hear it. Thanks again to you all. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Retention policy and changes to individual mailboxes
This changed in Exchange 2010 SP1. At RTM, there was a schedule (and even through SP3, you can set the schedule, but it is ignored). At SP1, the MFA became a throttled, always running, background agent. It is controlled via Set-MailboxServer and the parameters ManagedFolderWorkCycle and ManagedFolderWorkCycleCheckPoint. The workcycle is a target. Depending on resource pressure, it may not be met. The first time a retention policy is being applied, it may take up to 3 executions of the MFA before everything is ready to use. From: pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 5:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Retention policy and changes to individual mailboxes Within 24 hours, there isn't a set start/stop schedule any more (afaik). To force using EMS Start-ManagedFolderAssistant user Blackberry From: xyz [mailto:x...@minneapolis.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 09:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Retention policy and changes to individual mailboxes (Sent twice today but never saw it arrive. My test email went through tonight so resending this post again). Greetings, Exchange 2010 SP2 UR3 We have a 270 day mailbox retention policy on most mailboxes. I have a mailbox where I want to remove that policy to make sure some old emails don't get deleted. Easy enough removing policy from mailbox and I see it immediately does not apply the policy to emails received after removal so they are OK. However, how long will it take to remove the retention policy from the existing emails? Is that done by some type of overnight scheduled process? I have made sure to check in online mode and in OUTLOOK WEB APP and still see the retention expiration dates in place on the existing mail. I will check again in the morning. Thanks for any suggestions. Dana --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: DynamicDistributionList - -RecipientFilter
Thanks Ian. Luckily, we convinced them to go w/ Custom Attributes. If anybody wants to show off, I'f love to see what kind of -RecipientFilter syntax they'd have recommended :) Happy Friday! On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Bruckner, Ian imbr...@ilstu.edu wrote: You’re on the right track from my experience. You’d have to say “members of x OU + members of y OU + members of z… OU”, because, “All OUs – a OU – b OU” is not possible with a msft ldap filter. It’s better to key off of another attribute, either one already existing, or one you script (and schedule to run nightly or whatever you’d like) the addition of.. and that’s nice because scripts CAN say “All OUs – a OU – b OU”. ** ** Ian ** ** *From:* Russ Patterson [mailto:rus...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:23 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* DynamicDistributionList - -RecipientFilter ** ** Hello All - ** ** I seem to remember that excluding membership in a DDL by OU is a no- go, am I wrong? ** ** I have a customer who has Exchange 2010 and an AD with a complicated structure - AD Continent Country Users Non-Employee Country Users Non-Employee ** ** on on, ad infinitum ** ** They want a DDL with ALL users, except the ones in the 15 - 20 OUs named Non-Employee. I'm thinking something a good bit less dynamic, like CustomAttribute. ** ** Anybody an LDAP or OPATH genius? Is there a way to use -RecipientFilter get away with this? I'm pretty sure the answer is no, please let me know what you think. ** ** Thanks very much, as always. ** ** Russ ** ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: DynamicDistributionList - -RecipientFilter
Hi Russ Is there anything unique in the e-mail string that distinguishes non-employees from employees? I was wondering of some sort of regular expression in the filter might do the job? I can't recall 100% if ofilters or Sent on the run! On 11 Jan 2013, at 17:01, Russ Patterson rus...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Ian. Luckily, we convinced them to go w/ Custom Attributes. If anybody wants to show off, I'f love to see what kind of -RecipientFilter syntax they'd have recommended :) Happy Friday! On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Bruckner, Ian imbr...@ilstu.edu wrote: You’re on the right track from my experience. You’d have to say “members of x OU + members of y OU + members of z… OU”, because, “All OUs – a OU – b OU” is not possible with a msft ldap filter. It’s better to key off of another attribute, either one already existing, or one you script (and schedule to run nightly or whatever you’d like) the addition of.. and that’s nice because scripts CAN say “All OUs – a OU – b OU”. Ian From: Russ Patterson [mailto:rus...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:23 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: DynamicDistributionList - -RecipientFilter Hello All - I seem to remember that excluding membership in a DDL by OU is a no- go, am I wrong? I have a customer who has Exchange 2010 and an AD with a complicated structure - AD Continent Country Users Non-Employee Country Users Non-Employee on on, ad infinitum They want a DDL with ALL users, except the ones in the 15 - 20 OUs named Non-Employee. I'm thinking something a good bit less dynamic, like CustomAttribute. Anybody an LDAP or OPATH genius? Is there a way to use -RecipientFilter get away with this? I'm pretty sure the answer is no, please let me know what you think. Thanks very much, as always. Russ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: DynamicDistributionList - -RecipientFilter
I can't remember if LDAP or OPath searches support regex or not Sent on the run! On 11 Jan 2013, at 17:01, Russ Patterson rus...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Ian. Luckily, we convinced them to go w/ Custom Attributes. If anybody wants to show off, I'f love to see what kind of -RecipientFilter syntax they'd have recommended :) Happy Friday! On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Bruckner, Ian imbr...@ilstu.edu wrote: You’re on the right track from my experience. You’d have to say “members of x OU + members of y OU + members of z… OU”, because, “All OUs – a OU – b OU” is not possible with a msft ldap filter. It’s better to key off of another attribute, either one already existing, or one you script (and schedule to run nightly or whatever you’d like) the addition of.. and that’s nice because scripts CAN say “All OUs – a OU – b OU”. Ian From: Russ Patterson [mailto:rus...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:23 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: DynamicDistributionList - -RecipientFilter Hello All - I seem to remember that excluding membership in a DDL by OU is a no- go, am I wrong? I have a customer who has Exchange 2010 and an AD with a complicated structure - AD Continent Country Users Non-Employee Country Users Non-Employee on on, ad infinitum They want a DDL with ALL users, except the ones in the 15 - 20 OUs named Non-Employee. I'm thinking something a good bit less dynamic, like CustomAttribute. Anybody an LDAP or OPATH genius? Is there a way to use -RecipientFilter get away with this? I'm pretty sure the answer is no, please let me know what you think. Thanks very much, as always. Russ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Anti-spam choices in general?
Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
Too rich for my budget at ~3000 users. Any less expensive alternatives come to mind? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
We use Symantec's Brightstor gateway for inbound and outbound mail. Easy to use and reliable. In the past I've used Barracuda. What don't you like about Barracuda? I found the unit I used very flexible. At my old shop we allowed users to have logons to create their own custom controls. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
Have you looked at the offering from Clearswift? Linux based appliances and I think also available as a soft-appliance? John -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: 11 January 2013 16:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? Too rich for my budget at ~3000 users. Any less expensive alternatives come to mind? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Anti-spam choices in general?
We love our Iron Ports ... On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
Ditto. Brandon From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anti-spam choices in general? We love our Iron Ports ... On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edumailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Anti-spam choices in general?
ninja On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Mike Benedict benedic...@palmer.eduwrote: Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
Same here From: Shanks, Brandon C [mailto:bran...@utdallas.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? Ditto. Brandon From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anti-spam choices in general? We love our Iron Ports ... On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edumailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
Proofpoint has a great solution and includes the ability to define custom rules. -Scott -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
I do like the Barracuda but... there's just a bunch of nagging things. A few that immediately come to mind are: Support says we have excessive filters (I don't think we do). False positives due to an unexplained Barracuda custom rule. They like to Barracuda whitelist sites we have no interest in. Rate limiting has always been inconsistently applied and support has no idea why. Inconsistent message log search results (which is really annoying when you're trying to help a user find their e-mail). Seemingly simplistic (and obvious) spam is often not blocked (e.g. porn e-mails with an abundance of special characters). Inconsistent blocking, same spam, different recipients, some blocked, some not, no known cause. I dislike that I have to call support because the box is doing something it shouldn't that I can't control. With that said, I have no complaints regarding the quality of their support reps. All in all, given the cost, I think the Barracuda offers a good value but, I'd like something that allows more control and more consistent performance. Thanks for the recommendations! -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? We use Symantec's Brightstor gateway for inbound and outbound mail. Easy to use and reliable. In the past I've used Barracuda. What don't you like about Barracuda? I found the unit I used very flexible. At my old shop we allowed users to have logons to create their own custom controls. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
We're using Spam Titan. It's worked pretty well for our small organization. (100 mailboxes) From: Mike Benedict [benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? Too rich for my budget at ~3000 users. Any less expensive alternatives come to mind? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
I had the physical 300 model for 5 years or so and have had the virtual appliance version of that model for 2+ years and can't say I've experience much of what you mention below. Everyone's spam is going to be subjective though. I've always had it in global mode. Just mark a few hundred spam/ham msg's and let it go. Pay attention to it for a couple weeks to get thresholds set properly. Then I have a narrow threshold for quarantine I send to an account to check every few weeks for false positives. I've had false positives over the years but white listing those domains fixes that. And even then most of the false positives are because of word filters in the message. It maybe gets 10 min a week of my attention, but you have 10 times the users I do so.. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I do like the Barracuda but... there's just a bunch of nagging things. A few that immediately come to mind are: Support says we have excessive filters (I don't think we do). False positives due to an unexplained Barracuda custom rule. They like to Barracuda whitelist sites we have no interest in. Rate limiting has always been inconsistently applied and support has no idea why. Inconsistent message log search results (which is really annoying when you're trying to help a user find their e-mail). Seemingly simplistic (and obvious) spam is often not blocked (e.g. porn e-mails with an abundance of special characters). Inconsistent blocking, same spam, different recipients, some blocked, some not, no known cause. I dislike that I have to call support because the box is doing something it shouldn't that I can't control. With that said, I have no complaints regarding the quality of their support reps. All in all, given the cost, I think the Barracuda offers a good value but, I'd like something that allows more control and more consistent performance. Thanks for the recommendations! -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? We use Symantec's Brightstor gateway for inbound and outbound mail. Easy to use and reliable. In the past I've used Barracuda. What don't you like about Barracuda? I found the unit I used very flexible. At my old shop we allowed users to have logons to create their own custom controls. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Antispam online choices
Hi, I converted to FOPE cloud a couple of years ago because it was already included in our MS campus agreement so it was a $$ savings matter. The conversion was pretty straight forward and they provided good coordination support at that time. No product is perfect, but no major concerns with the performance and tech support has been good and 7x24 whenever we have questions. YMMV Thanks Dana From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antispam online choices FOPE is a good product. From: Alexander Rose [mailto:arose...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:arose...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 5:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antispam online choices Hi everyone, First of all happy new year to all, and i would like to particularly thanks all of you as today is the official day i retired all Exchange 2003 servers from my domain and I have a fully working Exchange 2010 email domain. I am very grateful for the support some of you guys provided here and i learnt a lot which is the most important to me. I was hoping i could get some feedback about online spam protection, my company is moving away from Barracuda Online and management wants me to choose between Forefront Online (it is included in our Enterprise CALs) or Symantec online spam protection. If any of you has experience with this product and thus can provide some comparison points, i'd be really glad to hear it. Thanks again to you all. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
