RE: Anybody out there seeing any effects of the DDOS attack on Spamhaus?

[Tim Evans]

Here is another article with a bit more technical details: 
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/03/spamhaus-ddos-grows-to-internet-threatening-size/

Yes, the DNS reflector attack is interesting, as is CloudFlare's anycast 
defense against it. I haven't seen any difference in my connections out of 
Seattle. Apparently, it has been going on for over a week now.

...Tim

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
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Subject: Re: Anybody out there seeing any effects of the DDOS attack on 
Spamhaus?

I'm based in the UK and my internet speed is no worse than normal. That DNS 
reflector attack is quite neat though, I have to admit.


On 27 March 2013 21:54, Tim Evans 
mailto:tev...@sparling.com>> wrote:
Supposed to be the "worst cyberattack ever"
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/03/27/spam-blocking-group-spamhaus-reports-being-hit-by-massive-cyberattack-many/


...Tim

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Some sites are kind of slow here.  I hear it's a lot worse in the UK.

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Re: Anybody out there seeing any effects of the DDOS attack on Spamhaus?

[James Rankin]

I'm based in the UK and my internet speed is no worse than normal. That DNS
reflector attack is quite neat though, I have to admit.



On 27 March 2013 21:54, Tim Evans  wrote:

>  Supposed to be the "worst cyberattack ever"
>
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/03/27/spam-blocking-group-spamhaus-reports-being-hit-by-massive-cyberattack-many/
> 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> …Tim
>
> ** **
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> *From:* Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:24 PM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Anybody out there seeing any effects of the DDOS attack on
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> Some sites are kind of slow here.  I hear it’s a lot worse in the UK.
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RE: Anybody out there seeing any effects of the DDOS attack on Spamhaus?

[Tim Evans]

Supposed to be the "worst cyberattack ever"
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/03/27/spam-blocking-group-spamhaus-reports-being-hit-by-massive-cyberattack-many/


...Tim

From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:24 PM
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Some sites are kind of slow here.  I hear it's a lot worse in the UK.

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Re: 2010 migration

[Steve Ens]

Or cleaning up the server room floor...


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:46 PM, John Matteson wrote:

> You might want to revoke the person’s System Admin license and put him to
> work running clean-ups on a WSUS server.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:31 PM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: 2010 migration
>
> ** **
>
> Well the architect isn’t really an architect, just a system admin who is
> adamit about his design.  The problem is, he doesn’t know anything about
> exchange 2010…
>
> ** **
>
> Anyways, will a NAT rule from the firewall to the CAS work instead of an
> edge server?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Oz Casey Dedeal [mailto:telne...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:30 AM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: 2010 migration
>
> ** **
>
> Change your architect obvious he does not know what he/ she is doing ,
> sorry for coming staight like this but this is pretty exchange 101 , no
> Exchange server to be placed in DMZ ( edge is exception
>
> ** **
>
> Classis configuration would be all inside 
>
> ** **
>
> 2 cas& hts combined
>
> 2 mbx in a DAG
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Now there it depends it could be all 3 roles in a single server ,
> stretched DAG etc. all depends on what you have and how you like to do it.
> 
>
> If you R me a side I can share some design Visio with you later on today
> so you get clear picture
>
> ** **
>
> Good luck
>
> Oz
>
> ** **
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jimmy Tran wrote:
>
> My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2
> CAS servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do
> that  I get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I
> move the CAS into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go
> away.  After reading a lot of KB’s, it looks like Microsoft doesn’t
> recommend putting the CAS in the DMZ.
>
>  
>
> What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS
> and HT/MBX networks?
>
>  
>
> TIA,
>
>  
>
> Jimmy
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RE: 2010 migration

[Jimmy Tran]

Lol that’s a good one.

From: John Matteson [mailto:john.matte...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2010 migration

You might want to revoke the person’s System Admin license and put him to work 
running clean-ups on a WSUS server.

From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2010 migration

Well the architect isn’t really an architect, just a system admin who is adamit 
about his design.  The problem is, he doesn’t know anything about exchange 2010…

Anyways, will a NAT rule from the firewall to the CAS work instead of an edge 
server?

From: Oz Casey Dedeal [mailto:telne...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 2010 migration

Change your architect obvious he does not know what he/ she is doing , sorry 
for coming staight like this but this is pretty exchange 101 , no Exchange 
server to be placed in DMZ ( edge is exception

Classis configuration would be all inside

2 cas& hts combined
2 mbx in a DAG


Now there it depends it could be all 3 roles in a single server , stretched DAG 
etc. all depends on what you have and how you like to do it.
If you R me a side I can share some design Visio with you later on today so you 
get clear picture

Good luck
Oz



On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jimmy Tran wrote:
My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2 CAS 
servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do that  I 
get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I move the CAS 
into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go away.  After reading a 
lot of KB’s, it looks like Microsoft doesn’t recommend putting the CAS in the 
DMZ.

What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS and 
HT/MBX networks?

TIA,

Jimmy

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RE: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

[John Matteson]

Nope. Muppets on the Disney channel.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

If it’s the one I think it is (and corporate policy blocks ALL Youtube so I 
can't look at present) it’s a "Weird Al" skit.


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:john.matte...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 March 2013 11:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

I have a feeling that the soundtrack isn't the original for that video.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

Prepare to vegetate...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5e9NUvX6A


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
> Thanks for getting "Devil Went Down to Georgia" stuck in my head.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> It's been sitting on my back burner for a couple of weeks, and I 
>> decided to take another whack at it.
>>
>> As for your son, well, perhaps it's time to rosin up the bow and have a duet?
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:
>>> Nice get.
>>>
>>> My son is a viola player.  I someday hope to catch him on my violin.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

 I recently ran across a problem with using the ESM to manage some PFs.

 The error message was exactly as described here:
 http://briandesmond.com/blog/exchange-system-manager-public-folder-
 errors/

 However, the solution he came up with just didn't work, nor did 
 this article's advice:
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/839744

 So, I did a little digging.

 Turns out that there were two (2) web sites on the server, both 
 titled Default Web Site.

 One really was the default web site, but the other is the one that 
 contains the OMA virtual server.

 The original was bound to the IP address of the machine, and the 
 site containing the OMA virtual server was set to use All Unassigned.

 (I love managers who cowboy through things...)

 So, I set up a second IP address on the server, and assign the 
 second web site to it.

 Tried the ESM to manage the PFs again - and got a completely 
 different error, asking me to check for an invalid host header.

 So, I went back to the original web site, and yes, indeed, there 
 was text in the host header field for the site.

 I cleared that, tried again, and viola (I'm not French, and I like
 strings) - success.

 Just one for the archives...

 However, I wonder if I could have just used 127.0.0.1 for the OMA 
 site
 - maybe someday I'll try that.

 Kurt

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RE: 2010 migration

[John Matteson]

You might want to revoke the person’s System Admin license and put him to work 
running clean-ups on a WSUS server.

 

From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2010 migration

 

Well the architect isn’t really an architect, just a system admin who is adamit 
about his design.  The problem is, he doesn’t know anything about exchange 2010…

 

Anyways, will a NAT rule from the firewall to the CAS work instead of an edge 
server?

 

From: Oz Casey Dedeal [mailto:telne...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 2010 migration

 

Change your architect obvious he does not know what he/ she is doing , sorry 
for coming staight like this but this is pretty exchange 101 , no Exchange 
server to be placed in DMZ ( edge is exception

 

Classis configuration would be all inside 

 

2 cas& hts combined

2 mbx in a DAG

 

 

Now there it depends it could be all 3 roles in a single server , stretched DAG 
etc. all depends on what you have and how you like to do it.

If you R me a side I can share some design Visio with you later on today so you 
get clear picture

 

Good luck

Oz

 



On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jimmy Tran wrote:

My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2 CAS 
servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do that  I 
get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I move the CAS 
into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go away.  After reading a 
lot of KB’s, it looks like Microsoft doesn’t recommend putting the CAS in the 
DMZ.

 

What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS and 
HT/MBX networks?

 

TIA,

 

Jimmy

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Re: 2010 migration

[Todd Lemmiksoo]

yes

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Jimmy Tran  wrote:

>  Well the architect isn’t really an architect, just a system admin who is
> adamit about his design.  The problem is, he doesn’t know anything about
> exchange 2010…
>
> ** **
>
> Anyways, will a NAT rule from the firewall to the CAS work instead of an
> edge server?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Oz Casey Dedeal [mailto:telne...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:30 AM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: 2010 migration
>
> ** **
>
> Change your architect obvious he does not know what he/ she is doing ,
> sorry for coming staight like this but this is pretty exchange 101 , no
> Exchange server to be placed in DMZ ( edge is exception
>
> ** **
>
> Classis configuration would be all inside 
>
> ** **
>
> 2 cas& hts combined
>
> 2 mbx in a DAG
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Now there it depends it could be all 3 roles in a single server ,
> stretched DAG etc. all depends on what you have and how you like to do it.
> 
>
> If you R me a side I can share some design Visio with you later on today
> so you get clear picture
>
> ** **
>
> Good luck
>
> Oz
>
> ** **
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jimmy Tran wrote:
>
> My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2
> CAS servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do
> that  I get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I
> move the CAS into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go
> away.  After reading a lot of KB’s, it looks like Microsoft doesn’t
> recommend putting the CAS in the DMZ.
>
>  
>
> What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS
> and HT/MBX networks?
>
>  
>
> TIA,
>
>  
>
> Jimmy
>
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Re: 2010 migration

[Jimmy Tran]

No you read it right. I suggested appropriate nat rules from firewall to Cas 
array and he wants to put cas in dmz.

With his design my servers don't like it. With mine everything is happy

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-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com]
Received: Wednesday, 27 Mar 2013, 12:13pm
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Subject: Re: 2010 migration

I think I misread your question.  Are you saying firewall rules which direct 
appropriate traffic from the Internet directly to your CAS servers in the 
trusted zone instead of having your CAS servers in the DMZ?


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Richard Stovall 
mailto:rich...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just say no, and send your adamant admin the following:  
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+cas+in+dmz.  (Make sure he clicks on the 
VERY FIRST LINK.)

Good luck.




On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Jimmy Tran 
mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com>> wrote:
Well the architect isn’t really an architect, just a system admin who is adamit 
about his design.  The problem is, he doesn’t know anything about exchange 2010…

Anyways, will a NAT rule from the firewall to the CAS work instead of an edge 
server?

From: Oz Casey Dedeal [mailto:telne...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:30 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 2010 migration

Change your architect obvious he does not know what he/ she is doing , sorry 
for coming staight like this but this is pretty exchange 101 , no Exchange 
server to be placed in DMZ ( edge is exception

Classis configuration would be all inside

2 cas& hts combined
2 mbx in a DAG


Now there it depends it could be all 3 roles in a single server , stretched DAG 
etc. all depends on what you have and how you like to do it.
If you R me a side I can share some design Visio with you later on today so you 
get clear picture

Good luck
Oz



On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jimmy Tran wrote:
My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2 CAS 
servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do that  I 
get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I move the CAS 
into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go away.  After reading a 
lot of KB’s, it looks like Microsoft doesn’t recommend putting the CAS in the 
DMZ.

What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS and 
HT/MBX networks?

TIA,

Jimmy

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Re: 2010 migration

[Richard Stovall]

I think I misread your question.  Are you saying firewall rules which
direct appropriate traffic from the Internet directly to your CAS servers
in the trusted zone instead of having your CAS servers in the DMZ?


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:

> Just say no, and send your adamant admin the following:
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+cas+in+dmz.  (Make sure he clicks on
> the VERY FIRST LINK.)
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Jimmy Tran  wrote:
>
>>  Well the architect isn’t really an architect, just a system admin who
>> is adamit about his design.  The problem is, he doesn’t know anything about
>> exchange 2010…
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Anyways, will a NAT rule from the firewall to the CAS work instead of an
>> edge server?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Oz Casey Dedeal [mailto:telne...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:30 AM
>>
>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: 2010 migration
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Change your architect obvious he does not know what he/ she is doing ,
>> sorry for coming staight like this but this is pretty exchange 101 , no
>> Exchange server to be placed in DMZ ( edge is exception
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Classis configuration would be all inside 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> 2 cas& hts combined
>>
>> 2 mbx in a DAG
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Now there it depends it could be all 3 roles in a single server ,
>> stretched DAG etc. all depends on what you have and how you like to do it.
>> 
>>
>> If you R me a side I can share some design Visio with you later on today
>> so you get clear picture
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Oz
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jimmy Tran wrote:
>>
>> My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2
>> CAS servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do
>> that  I get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I
>> move the CAS into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go
>> away.  After reading a lot of KB’s, it looks like Microsoft doesn’t
>> recommend putting the CAS in the DMZ.
>>
>>  
>>
>> What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS
>> and HT/MBX networks?
>>
>>  
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
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Re: 2010 migration

[Richard Stovall]

Just say no, and send your adamant admin the following:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+cas+in+dmz.  (Make sure he clicks on the
VERY FIRST LINK.)

Good luck.




On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Jimmy Tran  wrote:

>  Well the architect isn’t really an architect, just a system admin who is
> adamit about his design.  The problem is, he doesn’t know anything about
> exchange 2010…
>
> ** **
>
> Anyways, will a NAT rule from the firewall to the CAS work instead of an
> edge server?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Oz Casey Dedeal [mailto:telne...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:30 AM
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: 2010 migration
>
> ** **
>
> Change your architect obvious he does not know what he/ she is doing ,
> sorry for coming staight like this but this is pretty exchange 101 , no
> Exchange server to be placed in DMZ ( edge is exception
>
> ** **
>
> Classis configuration would be all inside 
>
> ** **
>
> 2 cas& hts combined
>
> 2 mbx in a DAG
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Now there it depends it could be all 3 roles in a single server ,
> stretched DAG etc. all depends on what you have and how you like to do it.
> 
>
> If you R me a side I can share some design Visio with you later on today
> so you get clear picture
>
> ** **
>
> Good luck
>
> Oz
>
> ** **
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jimmy Tran wrote:
>
> My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2
> CAS servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do
> that  I get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I
> move the CAS into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go
> away.  After reading a lot of KB’s, it looks like Microsoft doesn’t
> recommend putting the CAS in the DMZ.
>
>  
>
> What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS
> and HT/MBX networks?
>
>  
>
> TIA,
>
>  
>
> Jimmy
>
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RE: 2010 migration

[Jimmy Tran]

Well the architect isn’t really an architect, just a system admin who is adamit 
about his design.  The problem is, he doesn’t know anything about exchange 2010…

Anyways, will a NAT rule from the firewall to the CAS work instead of an edge 
server?

From: Oz Casey Dedeal [mailto:telne...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 2010 migration

Change your architect obvious he does not know what he/ she is doing , sorry 
for coming staight like this but this is pretty exchange 101 , no Exchange 
server to be placed in DMZ ( edge is exception

Classis configuration would be all inside

2 cas& hts combined
2 mbx in a DAG


Now there it depends it could be all 3 roles in a single server , stretched DAG 
etc. all depends on what you have and how you like to do it.
If you R me a side I can share some design Visio with you later on today so you 
get clear picture

Good luck
Oz



On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jimmy Tran wrote:
My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2 CAS 
servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do that  I 
get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I move the CAS 
into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go away.  After reading a 
lot of KB’s, it looks like Microsoft doesn’t recommend putting the CAS in the 
DMZ.

What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS and 
HT/MBX networks?

TIA,

Jimmy

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RE: 2010 migration

[Dave Wade]

I think its time to twist the question. So perhaps we can say :-

“If you put your server CAS in a DMZ it will no longer be a DMZ…”

Dave Wade
0161 474 5456

From: Oz Casey Dedeal [mailto:telne...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 March 2013 15:30
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 2010 migration

Change your architect obvious he does not know what he/ she is doing , sorry 
for coming staight like this but this is pretty exchange 101 , no Exchange 
server to be placed in DMZ ( edge is exception

Classis configuration would be all inside

2 cas& hts combined
2 mbx in a DAG


Now there it depends it could be all 3 roles in a single server , stretched DAG 
etc. all depends on what you have and how you like to do it.
If you R me a side I can share some design Visio with you later on today so you 
get clear picture

Good luck
Oz



On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jimmy Tran wrote:
My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2 CAS 
servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do that  I 
get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I move the CAS 
into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go away.  After reading a 
lot of KB’s, it looks like Microsoft doesn’t recommend putting the CAS in the 
DMZ.

What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS and 
HT/MBX networks?

TIA,

Jimmy

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Re: 2010 migration

[Oz Casey Dedeal]

Change your architect obvious he does not know what he/ she is doing ,
sorry for coming staight like this but this is pretty exchange 101 , no
Exchange server to be placed in DMZ ( edge is exception

Classis configuration would be all inside

2 cas& hts combined
2 mbx in a DAG


Now there it depends it could be all 3 roles in a single server , stretched
DAG etc. all depends on what you have and how you like to do it.
If you R me a side I can share some design Visio with you later on today so
you get clear picture

Good luck
Oz



On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jimmy Tran wrote:

>  My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2
> CAS servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do
> that  I get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I
> move the CAS into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go
> away.  After reading a lot of KB’s, it looks like Microsoft doesn’t
> recommend putting the CAS in the DMZ.
>
> ** **
>
> What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS
> and HT/MBX networks?
>
> ** **
>
> TIA,
>
> ** **
>
> Jimmy
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Re: 2010 migration

[Tanya Pinetti]

Regarding the architect, what exactly is this person's actual title and role?  
I can't believe the architect would suggest a thing. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:56 AM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:

> It is NOT SUPPORTED to put CAS in the DMZ.
>  
> If you do not want to expose Exchange directly to the internet, then use a 
> firewall with DPI or a reverse proxy.
>  
> I don’t know who your architect is, but I recommend you get someone who 
> understands Exchange 2010. J
>  
> From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:33 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: 2010 migration
>  
> My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2 CAS 
> servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do that  I 
> get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I move the 
> CAS into  the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go away.  After 
> reading a lot of KB’s, it looks like Microsoft doesn’t recommend putting the 
> CAS in the DMZ.
>  
> What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS and 
> HT/MBX networks?
>  
> TIA,
>  
> Jimmy
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RE: 2010 migration

[Michael B. Smith]

It is NOT SUPPORTED to put CAS in the DMZ.

If you do not want to expose Exchange directly to the internet, then use a 
firewall with DPI or a reverse proxy.

I don't know who your architect is, but I recommend you get someone who 
understands Exchange 2010. :)

From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: 2010 migration

My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2 CAS 
servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do that  I 
get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I move the CAS 
into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go away.  After reading a 
lot of KB's, it looks like Microsoft doesn't recommend putting the CAS in the 
DMZ.

What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS and 
HT/MBX networks?

TIA,

Jimmy

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RE: 2010 migration

[Campbell, Rob]

Edge in the DMZ.

Everything else inside.

From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: 2010 migration

My question is for the new 2010 design.  My architect wants to put the 2 CAS 
servers in the DMZ and 2 MBX/HT in the Domain/Trust zone.  When we do that  I 
get a lot of WinRM errors in the EMC and topology errors.  When I move the CAS 
into the save trust zone as the MBX/HT all the errors go away.  After reading a 
lot of KB's, it looks like Microsoft doesn't recommend putting the CAS in the 
DMZ.

What do you guys have setup and recommend?  Do you guys segment the CAS and 
HT/MBX networks?

TIA,

Jimmy

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RE: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

[Michael B. Smith]

Definitely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKLWfhhLZAs

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

Possibly true...

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:31 AM, John Matteson  wrote:
> I have a feeling that the soundtrack isn't the original for that video.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:26 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...
>
> Prepare to vegetate...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5e9NUvX6A
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
>> Thanks for getting "Devil Went Down to Georgia" stuck in my head.
>>
>> - Sean
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> It's been sitting on my back burner for a couple of weeks, and I 
>>> decided to take another whack at it.
>>>
>>> As for your son, well, perhaps it's time to rosin up the bow and have a 
>>> duet?
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:
 Nice get.

 My son is a viola player.  I someday hope to catch him on my violin.


 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
> I recently ran across a problem with using the ESM to manage some PFs.
>
> The error message was exactly as described here:
> http://briandesmond.com/blog/exchange-system-manager-public-folder
> -
> errors/
>
> However, the solution he came up with just didn't work, nor did 
> this article's advice:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/839744
>
> So, I did a little digging.
>
> Turns out that there were two (2) web sites on the server, both 
> titled Default Web Site.
>
> One really was the default web site, but the other is the one that 
> contains the OMA virtual server.
>
> The original was bound to the IP address of the machine, and the 
> site containing the OMA virtual server was set to use All Unassigned.
>
> (I love managers who cowboy through things...)
>
> So, I set up a second IP address on the server, and assign the 
> second web site to it.
>
> Tried the ESM to manage the PFs again - and got a completely 
> different error, asking me to check for an invalid host header.
>
> So, I went back to the original web site, and yes, indeed, there 
> was text in the host header field for the site.
>
> I cleared that, tried again, and viola (I'm not French, and I like
> strings) - success.
>
> Just one for the archives...
>
> However, I wonder if I could have just used 127.0.0.1 for the OMA 
> site
> - maybe someday I'll try that.
>
> Kurt
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Re: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

[Kurt Buff]

Close, but no ceegar...

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:52 AM, Dave Wade  wrote:
> If it’s the one I think it is (and corporate policy blocks ALL Youtube so I 
> can't look at present) it’s a "Weird Al" skit.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Matteson [mailto:john.matte...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 27 March 2013 11:32
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...
>
> I have a feeling that the soundtrack isn't the original for that video.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:26 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...
>
> Prepare to vegetate...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5e9NUvX6A
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
>> Thanks for getting "Devil Went Down to Georgia" stuck in my head.
>>
>> - Sean
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> It's been sitting on my back burner for a couple of weeks, and I
>>> decided to take another whack at it.
>>>
>>> As for your son, well, perhaps it's time to rosin up the bow and have a 
>>> duet?
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:
 Nice get.

 My son is a viola player.  I someday hope to catch him on my violin.


 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
> I recently ran across a problem with using the ESM to manage some PFs.
>
> The error message was exactly as described here:
> http://briandesmond.com/blog/exchange-system-manager-public-folder-
> errors/
>
> However, the solution he came up with just didn't work, nor did
> this article's advice:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/839744
>
> So, I did a little digging.
>
> Turns out that there were two (2) web sites on the server, both
> titled Default Web Site.
>
> One really was the default web site, but the other is the one that
> contains the OMA virtual server.
>
> The original was bound to the IP address of the machine, and the
> site containing the OMA virtual server was set to use All Unassigned.
>
> (I love managers who cowboy through things...)
>
> So, I set up a second IP address on the server, and assign the
> second web site to it.
>
> Tried the ESM to manage the PFs again - and got a completely
> different error, asking me to check for an invalid host header.
>
> So, I went back to the original web site, and yes, indeed, there
> was text in the host header field for the site.
>
> I cleared that, tried again, and viola (I'm not French, and I like
> strings) - success.
>
> Just one for the archives...
>
> However, I wonder if I could have just used 127.0.0.1 for the OMA
> site
> - maybe someday I'll try that.
>
> Kurt
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Re: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

[Kurt Buff]

Possibly true...

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:31 AM, John Matteson  wrote:
> I have a feeling that the soundtrack isn't the original for that video.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:26 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...
>
> Prepare to vegetate...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5e9NUvX6A
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
>> Thanks for getting "Devil Went Down to Georgia" stuck in my head.
>>
>> - Sean
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> It's been sitting on my back burner for a couple of weeks, and I
>>> decided to take another whack at it.
>>>
>>> As for your son, well, perhaps it's time to rosin up the bow and have a 
>>> duet?
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:
 Nice get.

 My son is a viola player.  I someday hope to catch him on my violin.


 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
> I recently ran across a problem with using the ESM to manage some PFs.
>
> The error message was exactly as described here:
> http://briandesmond.com/blog/exchange-system-manager-public-folder-
> errors/
>
> However, the solution he came up with just didn't work, nor did
> this article's advice:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/839744
>
> So, I did a little digging.
>
> Turns out that there were two (2) web sites on the server, both
> titled Default Web Site.
>
> One really was the default web site, but the other is the one that
> contains the OMA virtual server.
>
> The original was bound to the IP address of the machine, and the
> site containing the OMA virtual server was set to use All Unassigned.
>
> (I love managers who cowboy through things...)
>
> So, I set up a second IP address on the server, and assign the
> second web site to it.
>
> Tried the ESM to manage the PFs again - and got a completely
> different error, asking me to check for an invalid host header.
>
> So, I went back to the original web site, and yes, indeed, there
> was text in the host header field for the site.
>
> I cleared that, tried again, and viola (I'm not French, and I like
> strings) - success.
>
> Just one for the archives...
>
> However, I wonder if I could have just used 127.0.0.1 for the OMA
> site
> - maybe someday I'll try that.
>
> Kurt
>
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RE: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

[Dave Wade]

If it’s the one I think it is (and corporate policy blocks ALL Youtube so I 
can't look at present) it’s a "Weird Al" skit.


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:john.matte...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 March 2013 11:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

I have a feeling that the soundtrack isn't the original for that video.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

Prepare to vegetate...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5e9NUvX6A


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
> Thanks for getting "Devil Went Down to Georgia" stuck in my head.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> It's been sitting on my back burner for a couple of weeks, and I
>> decided to take another whack at it.
>>
>> As for your son, well, perhaps it's time to rosin up the bow and have a duet?
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:
>>> Nice get.
>>>
>>> My son is a viola player.  I someday hope to catch him on my violin.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

 I recently ran across a problem with using the ESM to manage some PFs.

 The error message was exactly as described here:
 http://briandesmond.com/blog/exchange-system-manager-public-folder-
 errors/

 However, the solution he came up with just didn't work, nor did
 this article's advice:
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/839744

 So, I did a little digging.

 Turns out that there were two (2) web sites on the server, both
 titled Default Web Site.

 One really was the default web site, but the other is the one that
 contains the OMA virtual server.

 The original was bound to the IP address of the machine, and the
 site containing the OMA virtual server was set to use All Unassigned.

 (I love managers who cowboy through things...)

 So, I set up a second IP address on the server, and assign the
 second web site to it.

 Tried the ESM to manage the PFs again - and got a completely
 different error, asking me to check for an invalid host header.

 So, I went back to the original web site, and yes, indeed, there
 was text in the host header field for the site.

 I cleared that, tried again, and viola (I'm not French, and I like
 strings) - success.

 Just one for the archives...

 However, I wonder if I could have just used 127.0.0.1 for the OMA
 site
 - maybe someday I'll try that.

 Kurt

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RE: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

[John Matteson]

I have a feeling that the soundtrack isn't the original for that video.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A solved problem with Exchange 2003 - weird little issue...

Prepare to vegetate...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5e9NUvX6A


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
> Thanks for getting "Devil Went Down to Georgia" stuck in my head.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> It's been sitting on my back burner for a couple of weeks, and I 
>> decided to take another whack at it.
>>
>> As for your son, well, perhaps it's time to rosin up the bow and have a duet?
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:
>>> Nice get.
>>>
>>> My son is a viola player.  I someday hope to catch him on my violin.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

 I recently ran across a problem with using the ESM to manage some PFs.

 The error message was exactly as described here:
 http://briandesmond.com/blog/exchange-system-manager-public-folder-
 errors/

 However, the solution he came up with just didn't work, nor did 
 this article's advice:
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/839744

 So, I did a little digging.

 Turns out that there were two (2) web sites on the server, both 
 titled Default Web Site.

 One really was the default web site, but the other is the one that 
 contains the OMA virtual server.

 The original was bound to the IP address of the machine, and the 
 site containing the OMA virtual server was set to use All Unassigned.

 (I love managers who cowboy through things...)

 So, I set up a second IP address on the server, and assign the 
 second web site to it.

 Tried the ESM to manage the PFs again - and got a completely 
 different error, asking me to check for an invalid host header.

 So, I went back to the original web site, and yes, indeed, there 
 was text in the host header field for the site.

 I cleared that, tried again, and viola (I'm not French, and I like
 strings) - success.

 Just one for the archives...

 However, I wonder if I could have just used 127.0.0.1 for the OMA 
 site
 - maybe someday I'll try that.

 Kurt

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