RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ?
I always feel that if the User put a piece of normal paper mail in the bin. Then once been removed from their office by the cleaners and but in the buildings garbage. Would they be willing to go down to the local landfill site 6 months later and try to retrieve it??? So why once they have deleted an e-mail, then emptied there recycle bin, do they expect to be able to get the mail back 6 months later??? just my thoughts on the matter. Graeme -Original Message- From: STEVE BROOK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 October 2001 16:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? Horses for Courses - It really does depend on your type of business environment. On this particular customer site, some sales deals in one department can take a year to complete. I have been asked to retrieve mails from 6 -7 months previous (The answer at the time was no as we did not do Brick Level Backup, and I was not going to restore the whole Private store for one mail unfortunately the user had deleted the archive.pst) After getting it in the neck for that one, we are now doing BLB's P.S. What is the maximum retention time with E2K anybody know? SB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? Why the !? I have been using a DIR period of 35 days ever since going live with Exchange 5.5 2 years ago. In all of that time, we have NEVER had to do a message or mailbox restore from tape. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Motivational Speaker Klingon: EVERY day is a good day to die! Say it with me! - -Original Message- From: Andrew Goddard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? People sometimes want a mail restored that they deleted more than 90 days ago! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 October 2001 14:10 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? You may wonder why we bother with BLB when we have such a long deleted item retention period: a)It is occasionally handy to restore an individual email without using a separate restore server b)Restoring an single email can be quicker - hero factor when someone's in trouble! c)Gives a belt and braces approach to backup But, but, but...! With such a long DIR period, you don't NEED BLB to do a), b), c)!!! ::confused:: No separate restore server is needed; and DIR is quick, quick, quick (vite, even!). re: c) -- my dentist said that braces probably wouldn't do me any good -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I am in shape. Round is a shape... - -Original Message- From: Andrew Goddard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? We use it quite successfully, but only subject to the following: 1) We also do a full regular backup each night 2) We have a backup window than allows both BLB and full backup each time 3) We have enough space on the tapes for BLB and full backups 4) We use Veritas (not ArcServe!) 5) We have a long deleted item retention period (90 days) so individual message recovery is rarely needed. 6) It has never caused any faults 7) It is regularly tested You may wonder why we bother with BLB when we have such a long deleted item retention period: a) It is occasionally handy to restore an individual email without using a separate restore server b) Restoring an single email can be quicker - hero factor when someone's in trouble! c) Gives a belt and braces approach to backup I would _never_ recommend only doing BLB, but if 1-7 above are all OK then it can be useful. I think if you restore from a full backup, exmerge a couple of emails out of the restore and then into the production server, you lose SIS for these emails. For a full restore I'd always use the full backup not the BLB. Hope this helps Cheers, Andrew. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 October 2001 20:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm
RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ?
I always feel that if the User put a piece of normal paper mail in the bin. Then once been removed from their office by the cleaners and but in the buildings garbage. Would they be willing to go down to the local landfill site 6 months later and try to retrieve it??? So why once they have deleted an e-mail, then emptied there recycle bin, do they expect to be able to get the mail back 6 months later??? just my thoughts on the matter. Graeme -Original Message- From: STEVE BROOK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 October 2001 16:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? Horses for Courses - It really does depend on your type of business environment. On this particular customer site, some sales deals in one department can take a year to complete. I have been asked to retrieve mails from 6 -7 months previous (The answer at the time was no as we did not do Brick Level Backup, and I was not going to restore the whole Private store for one mail unfortunately the user had deleted the archive.pst) After getting it in the neck for that one, we are now doing BLB's P.S. What is the maximum retention time with E2K anybody know? SB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? Why the !? I have been using a DIR period of 35 days ever since going live with Exchange 5.5 2 years ago. In all of that time, we have NEVER had to do a message or mailbox restore from tape. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Motivational Speaker Klingon: EVERY day is a good day to die! Say it with me! - -Original Message- From: Andrew Goddard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? People sometimes want a mail restored that they deleted more than 90 days ago! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 October 2001 14:10 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? You may wonder why we bother with BLB when we have such a long deleted item retention period: a)It is occasionally handy to restore an individual email without using a separate restore server b)Restoring an single email can be quicker - hero factor when someone's in trouble! c)Gives a belt and braces approach to backup But, but, but...! With such a long DIR period, you don't NEED BLB to do a), b), c)!!! ::confused:: No separate restore server is needed; and DIR is quick, quick, quick (vite, even!). re: c) -- my dentist said that braces probably wouldn't do me any good -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I am in shape. Round is a shape... - -Original Message- From: Andrew Goddard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? We use it quite successfully, but only subject to the following: 1) We also do a full regular backup each night 2) We have a backup window than allows both BLB and full backup each time 3) We have enough space on the tapes for BLB and full backups 4) We use Veritas (not ArcServe!) 5) We have a long deleted item retention period (90 days) so individual message recovery is rarely needed. 6) It has never caused any faults 7) It is regularly tested You may wonder why we bother with BLB when we have such a long deleted item retention period: a) It is occasionally handy to restore an individual email without using a separate restore server b) Restoring an single email can be quicker - hero factor when someone's in trouble! c) Gives a belt and braces approach to backup I would _never_ recommend only doing BLB, but if 1-7 above are all OK then it can be useful. I think if you restore from a full backup, exmerge a couple of emails out of the restore and then into the production server, you lose SIS for these emails. For a full restore I'd always use the full backup not the BLB. Hope this helps Cheers, Andrew. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 October 2001 20:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many of you use Message Level Recovery ? http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm
RE: Exchange admin
If I remember correctly SBS 4.5 has a remote admin tool built in. I never bothered trying to get it working just installed the wonderful free VNC remote control software. Graeme -Original Message- From: Jennifer Gaylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 20:48 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange admin Thanks for the info, but this didn't work, I think I will just give up. The exercise will do me good to walk down to the server. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange admin Find the exchange CD. Go thorough them all you will see the exchange server files. Copy (not load) the exchange books online (just that file). Run the exchange program from the exchange disk set up. It should then run. Just install the admin program. ellery -Original Message- From: Jennifer Gaylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 1:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange admin Installation program says that to install Exchange need SBS server, can't even get to custom install screen, installation program is shut down. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange admin Why doesn't it work? -Original Message- From: Jennifer Gaylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange admin Thanks everybody for the input, everybody basically said the same thing which of course does not work, I would have figured that out on my own if it was so easy! Unfortunately, perhaps becasue it is SBS4.5, the installation program requires that Small Business Server be installed. I was kind of hoping someone would know of some switches or something. Please try again!! List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Groupshield
Or even new Groushield 5 the fastest bestest virus scanner ever. Or so they claim in the e-mail I go this morning. Graeme -Original Message-From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 25 September 2001 13:44To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Groupshield It's supposedly fixed in Hotfix 7 for Groupshield 4.5. Phil -Phil RandalNetwork EngineerHerefordshire CouncilHereford, UK -Original Message-From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 25 September 2001 13:39To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Groupshield That feature is enough to: sign up as a Trend Micro reseller switch all companies with Ex to Trend Micro tell NAI to stick it too many features - Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member "Who's watching your network?" www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax -Original Message-From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 4:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Groupshield It's a feature! G... Phil -Phil RandalNetwork EngineerHerefordshire CouncilHereford, UK -Original Message-From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 25 September 2001 03:36To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Groupshield Has anyone had experience with Groupshield 4.5.1 where if you select block extensions, it blocks only extensions. If you select filenames, it blocks only filenames (even if you have blocked EXE's in the extension side)? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member "Who's watching your network?" www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Thanks for your help
Thanks to everyone who sent me the test mail. This has confirmed that there are no problems at our end on receiving mail. It must be an issue with the customers server connectin to ours. Therefore SEP just got to convince veryone here of that. Thanks again Graeme List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Thanks for your help
Thanks to everyone who sent me the test mail. This has confirmed that there are no problems at our end on receiving mail. It must be an issue with the customers server connectin to ours. Therefore SEP just got to convince veryone here of that. Thanks again Graeme List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
