RE: mail continuity services
Funny, I just talked to Dell services about MessageLabs today. It looks really interesting. From my understanding, the way it works is: For inbound, you have a lower priority MX record that points to messagelabs. You can select to manually activate continuity or for it to automatically kick over. For outbound(in a disaster), there's an outlook plugin that will detect your exchange servers are down and will apparently connect to message labs without any reconfiguration? Alternatively there's an OWA style web interface. There's an AD sync tool that replicates new user add/removes to messagelabs(just usernames, not passwords) so new users are setup automatically. It does seem pricey though. There's also MXLogic. Their spam solution includes a continuity piece. It doesn't seem as robust as messagelabs. I think it's simply an OWA style interface, nothing else. MXLogic is far cheaper though. I also know of a local consulting firm who uses office365 as a backup to their exchange server, but I haven't looked into how they're doing it. Curious if anyone has heard of other solutions or has firsthand experience with any of there. Thanks, Jon [cid:image001.png@01CDE9CA.0D1A37A0] Jon Derrenbacker | CISSP | Systems Engineer | Manager | Keiter 4401 Dominion Boulevard, 2nd Floor, Glen Allen, VA 23060 phone: 804-273-6221 | fax: 804-747-3632 | keitercpa.comhttp://www.keitercpa.com/ Experience | Knowledge | Relationships | Insight Note: This communication, including any attachments, may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, or believe you have received this communication in error, do not print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the information contained within. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding any penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction(s) or tax-related matter(s) addressed herein. From: Jean-Paul N [mailto:jnat...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 2:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail continuity services Hi all, Was curious to know what services you maybe using for email continuity- years back i recall message labs provided that service- does anyone have any experience with any others? TIA JP --- To manage subscriptions click here: or send an email to with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: or send an email to with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.png
RE: mail continuity services
Here's the rep I was talking to: Geoff 404-639-9223 I was quoted $34/user per year!!! From: Jean-Paul N [mailto:jnat...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 4:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail continuity services Can you get me # to speak to an actual rep? , I tried calling and got transfer from India to Latin America - then I hung up- I filled out the call me back on their website , and I'm still waiting. Another provider offers that same service, but it must be used in conjunction with the mail filtering, , with a minimum of 25 users all said and done 7 dollars a mailbox (NO WAYYY) Jean-Paul Natola From: jderrenbac...@keitercpa.commailto:jderrenbac...@keitercpa.com To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: mail continuity services Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:16:17 + Funny, I just talked to Dell services about MessageLabs today. It looks really interesting. From my understanding, the way it works is: For inbound, you have a lower priority MX record that points to messagelabs. You can select to manually activate continuity or for it to automatically kick over. For outbound(in a disaster), there's an outlook plugin that will detect your exchange servers are down and will apparently connect to message labs without any reconfiguration? Alternatively there's an OWA style web interface. There's an AD sync tool that replicates new user add/removes to messagelabs(just usernames, not passwords) so new users are setup automatically. It does seem pricey though. There's also MXLogic. Their spam solution includes a continuity piece. It doesn't seem as robust as messagelabs. I think it's simply an OWA style interface, nothing else. MXLogic is far cheaper though. I also know of a local consulting firm who uses office365 as a backup to their exchange server, but I haven't looked into how they're doing it. Curious if anyone has heard of other solutions or has firsthand experience with any of there. Thanks, Jon [cid:image001.png@01CDE9CA.0D1A37A0] Jon Derrenbacker | CISSP | Systems Engineer | Manager | Keiter 4401 Dominion Boulevard, 2nd Floor, Glen Allen, VA 23060 phone: 804-273-6221 | fax: 804-747-3632 | keitercpa.comhttp://www.keitercpa.com/ Experience | Knowledge | Relationships | Insight Note: This communication, including any attachments, may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, or believe you have received this communication in error, do not print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the information contained within. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding any penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction(s) or tax-related matter(s) addressed herein. From: Jean-Paul N [mailto:jnat...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 2:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail continuity services Hi all, Was curious to know what services you maybe using for email continuity- years back i recall message labs provided that service- does anyone have any experience with any others? TIA JP --- To manage subscriptions click here: or send an email to with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: or send an email to with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: or send an email to with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: or send an email to with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.png
RE: ios6.1 woes
It would be nice to have an ETA from Apple so I can make the decision on what to do. Is it 24 hours away or 24 days away? I heard 6.1 also makes iPhone users passwords irrelevant. From: Adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: ios6.1 woes Apple has identified a fix and will make it available in an upcoming software update Ref: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4532 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: TO the best of my knowledge, that information is not public. From: Kleciak, Clint D A7IT [mailto:clint.klec...@cigna.commailto:clint.klec...@cigna.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: ios6.1 woes Anyone know if this effects 2007 as well or is it just 2010. I only see reference to 2010. thanks ___ Clint Kleciak Confidential, unpublished property of CIGNA. Do not duplicate or distribute. Use and distribution limited solely to authorized personnel. (c) Copyright 2013 CIGNA From: Adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: ios6.1 woes I believe they're working on it and will have a fix when it's ready like iOS 4.0.1 which fixed a similar issue. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Kuehn, Shannon sku...@gemrc.commailto:sku...@gemrc.com wrote: Yes but it still showed up on American phones. 4S and 5 in Chicago that I witnessed. Apple is not promising a fix and they're offering no comment. Just annoying... From: Adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.commailto:sms...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: ios6.1 woes I don't believe Apple promised a fix for the Exchange logging issue in 6.1.1. I believe it was only targeted for the European connection problem. The ZDNet article referred to in Steve Ens' blog confirms that: http://www.zdnet.com/apple-releases-ios-6-1-1-after-eu-network-bugs-711140/ On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Kuehn, Shannon sku...@gemrc.commailto:sku...@gemrc.com wrote: You are correct. Totally bogus that Apple has yet to truthfully address such a flaw. I think I was really optimistic it took care of the Exchange issue. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: ios6.1 woes D'oh! On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I've confirmed. 6.1.1 does NOT address this issue. From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: ios6.1 woes http://thoughtsofanidlemind.wordpress.com/2013/02/11/ios6-activesync/ The link here would disagree, but maybe they have released something more in the last 12 hours... On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Kuehn, Shannon sku...@gemrc.commailto:sku...@gemrc.com wrote: Call me crazy (many do), but I saw it with my own eyes on 2 iPhone 5 phones. From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: ios6.1 woes The fix is only for the 4s. No other phone is getting it currently On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Dan Hyatt d...@danhyatt.commailto:d...@danhyatt.com wrote: I actually installed it on my Verizon iphone 4S. So far so good. From: mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: ios6.1 woes Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:47:51 + 6.1.1 is a VodaPhone fix. That's all :) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: ios6.1 woes Not showing for me yet Kurt On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Kuehn, Shannon sku...@gemrc.commailto:sku...@gemrc.com wrote: Have your users go into Settings, General, Software Update. Make sure they're connected via wi-fi and you will see 6.1.1 in the update queue. Have them download + install and hopefully (*fingers crossed*) everything is back to normal come tomorrow. From: Peter Sam [mailto:srir...@hotmail.commailto:srir...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: ios6.1 woes Hmm sort of.. This will delete the full ActiveSync functionality. I was looking to see if we can just disable the Calendar portion only.. So, users will still be able to get email on their iphones but they wont be able to accept any new invites (the ones that cause the rapid log growth). From:
RE: Exchange ActiveSync not forcing encryption on Androids???
Thanks Carl. I found this: Exchange correctly sends the policy to the device. The device accepts the policy and discards the pieces it doesn't understand. It doesn't report that it refuses the entire policy so it's still provisioned. http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvrtransport/thread/c81ee66a-7cb0-4ef2-865c-2cd505847087/ At least I now know it's not just me... It seems really troublesome though. How is everyone else blocking non-encrypted devices??? Jon On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Androids lie. Google Android Activesync policies. Carl From: Derrenbacker, L. Jonathan Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:15 AM To: 'MS-Exchange Admin Issues' Subject: Exchange ActiveSync not forcing encryption on Androids??? Has anyone had issues where androids can sync even though your activesync policy says it requires encryption? I would think if my activesync policy says it requires encryption, and androids don't have encryption, they shouldn't be able to pull down email? Environment: Exchange 2010/2003(coexistence) - Mailboxes in questions are on 2010 HTC EVO and Incredible running android 2.3.3 and 2.2 Default Android Mail app. Activesync settings(Exchange 2010): - Allow non-provisional devices is UNCHECKED - Require encryption on device is CHECKED - Misc other password settings are selected. I made a forensics image of my android(after mounting it as a disk), scanned it with EnCase, and I can see my emails in plain text. Any ideas? Thanks, Jon --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Exchange auto-delete -- keeping too many months
I setup an exchange email recipient policy to delete emails older than 90 days on my exchange 2003 box. The weird thing is it seems to be keeping 120 days instead of 90. Almost exactly 1 extra month. Has anyone seen this before? I know when you forward, or reply it changes the time stamp, but the example emails I have are in my sent items and haven't been touched since they were originally sent. Thoughts/ideas? Here's a screenshot of said policy: http://i42.tinypic.com/13z669e.jpg There's a KB, KB302804, that talks about how exchange calculates email age, but I'm not seeing the answer there. I used KB, KB319188, to create the policy, and I've re-read it a few times, and it looks like everyone was done correctly... Thanks, Jon
