RE: best-practice document explaining how to prevent spam msgs?

2002-01-11 Thread Jerry W. Hubbard

Stopping Spam
by Schwartz  Garfinkel
O'Reilly
ISBN: 156592388x
Copyright 1998

It is dated. From the last century.

Jerry W. Hubbard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:59 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: best-practice document explaining how to prevent spam msgs?


 Alright.  We do not have any content filtering software on our Exchange
 server at this time.  As most Exchange admins are aware, content filtering
 software can cause just as many headaches after it's been installed prior
 to it being installed at all.

 The best way to prevent unwanted spam seems to be for users NOT to give
 out their email address over the web (surveys, etc.), not to sign up for
 newsletters, not to do online ordering, and other obvious things.  I'm
 wondering if there's a document out there that someone has used that
 explains these things in detail?  Basically a How to prevent unwanted
 email - faq or something like that that I can send out to our users...

 Any idea?

 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: best-practice document explaining how to prevent spam msgs?

2002-01-11 Thread Jerry W. Hubbard

Stopping Spam
by Schwartz  Garfinkel
O'Reilly
ISBN: 156592388x
Copyright 1998

It is dated. From the last century.

Jerry W. Hubbard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:59 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: best-practice document explaining how to prevent spam msgs?


 Alright.  We do not have any content filtering software on our Exchange
 server at this time.  As most Exchange admins are aware, content filtering
 software can cause just as many headaches after it's been installed prior
 to it being installed at all.

 The best way to prevent unwanted spam seems to be for users NOT to give
 out their email address over the web (surveys, etc.), not to sign up for
 newsletters, not to do online ordering, and other obvious things.  I'm
 wondering if there's a document out there that someone has used that
 explains these things in detail?  Basically a How to prevent unwanted
 email - faq or something like that that I can send out to our users...

 Any idea?

 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange

2002-01-09 Thread Jerry W. Hubbard

Hey i reassemble that remark. It's hell to get
old. :)

Jerry W. Hubbard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: Cross, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:46 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange


 Jen,

   If you plan on going to Notes, you had better give up drinking and start
 going to some form of religion.

   The only ones I've met are boring, non-drinking, bible thumping freaks!

 Ask me how I really feel.

 Tom

 -Original Message-
 From: Jen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange


 You guys have been pretty entertaining today. Actually I have been
 considering the conversion from Exchange to Domino for a while
 but this has
 been quite informative. This really must be a hot topic right now; I just
 received a tech target newlsetter comparing the two a few minutes
 ago. As a
 fledling admin I haven't been very excited with the concept of converting
 the entire campus to AD to get the (what seems to me)  limited benefits of
 EX 2K. Unfortunately I haven't found many other viable options
 either. Since
 this is an Exchange-stroking sort of group, I wouldn't expect
 that you would
 have any advice? I guess if I have you guys around I can use your help on
 the conversion. ;-)
 (Emoticons  Groupshield, I know how to make everyone happy)
 Jen Auiler


 - Original Message -
 From: Cross, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:12 PM
 Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange


  Mood Stamps!  Oh me oh my, Mood Stamps!
 
  -Richard Simmons
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:07 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange
 
 
  Excellent IBM and is thorough the reply, best! Patrick!
 
  Now, when I am forced to use the Outlook client, I am feel like
 something
  is missing.
 
  Please elaborate.  Given that Outlook is the most widely used
 email client
  in the world, what do you feel is missing?
 
  William
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pat Smallwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:08 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange
 
 
  ignore senders email address/client
  I am a Notes user, and initially couldn't stand the Client. You are
  correct, not initially intuitive etc...(trust me, I was pretty excited
  when I first heard that you can use the Outlook client with the a Notes
  Server). However, once you become familiar with the functionality and
  interface, it is actually pretty nice. No, it does not have the
 trademark
  MS'ified GUI (go figure!!) For me, I think the hard part of accepting
  Notes was that I KNEW Outlook, and didn't want to take time to learn the
  new client. Dont get me wrong, I do not dislike Outlook/Exchange (that's
  how I make a living).
 
  I am on Notes R5. I dont know what version you were primarily hammering,
  but I actually like it. Now, when I am forced to use the
 Outlook client, I
  am feel like something is missing.  My mail server has only
 been down once
  in two years (that I am aware of) and I have never had to call
 a help desk
  on it. (yes, of Course Exchange can also run as long if properly
  admin'd-maybe even if not!!). I am an Exchange Admin, and only
 USE Notes,
  so I am not aware of the technical issues personally.
 
  As far as Database functionality, I love that part of Notes
 now.  I guess
  you could get the same features elsewhere, although I am not sure they
  would integrate as smoothly. An observation I have made over that past
  couple years- it seems that a majority of people who demand more than
  simple messaging are  Notes users. I probably (off record) wouldn't
  recommend Notes to your basic email user (simple text messages) who
  already has issues understanding Outlook. The learning curve may not be
  worth it for some end users. That said, I dont know if I could
 do as much
  with out Notes.
 
  Just my .02 worth...no need for anyone to flame. Nothing above
 is intended
  to be blanket statements, just some general thoughts on the subject.
  /blah blah
  Pat
 
  P.S Perhaps you could post your Alternative Notes FAQ with Williams
  Alternative Operating System/Email etc plan when he finishes it ; )
 
 
 
 
  Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  01/09/2002 09:54 AM
  Please respond to MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  cc:
  Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange
 
 
 
  Well.  I haven't heard you rant like that since someone mentioned
  Groupshield.
 
  William
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:26 PM
  To: MS