BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

2010-03-01 Thread David Baca
Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry 
professional?  I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a 
negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no 
BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus.  

Regards,

David


  

RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

2010-03-01 Thread Barsodi.John
Doesn't specifically compare against BPS, but should answer some of your 
questions.

http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/business/server/express/ComparisonChart_NA_021610_v3.pdf

Thanks,
JB

From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry 
professional?  I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a 
negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no 
BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus.

Regards,

David



RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

2010-03-01 Thread Don Andrews
I think that's a plain old BLACKBERRY data plan


From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry 
professional?  I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a 
negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no 
BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus.

Regards,

David



Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

2010-03-01 Thread jgarciaitlist
Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: BESX  Blackberry Enterprise express

Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry 
professional?  I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a 
negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no 
BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus.  

Regards,

David


  


RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

2010-03-01 Thread Simon Butler
Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only.

Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010.
Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange - which includes SBS 
2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files 
when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully 
functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from 
RIM.

The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you 
have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as 
normal.

You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service.

The major limitation is the security policies - full BES gives you something 
like 400, you get 35 on Express.

The documentation is here:
http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange

It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the 
policies available.

Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will 
probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at 
port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine.

Simon.


--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/
w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for 
certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? 
http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/

Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/



From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile


From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST)
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry 
professional?  I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a 
negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no 
BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus.

Regards,

David



Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

2010-03-01 Thread David Baca
Simon,

Thanks just what i was looking for.

David




From: Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 3:49:12 PM
Subject: RE: BESX  Blackberry Enterprise express


Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only. 
 
Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010. 
Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange – which includes SBS 
2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files 
when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully 
functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from 
RIM. 

The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you 
have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as 
normal. 
 
You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service. 
 
The major limitation is the security policies – full BES gives you something 
like 400, you get 35 on Express. 
 
The documentation is here:
http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange
 
It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the 
policies available. 
 
Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will 
probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at 
port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine. 
 
Simon. 
 
 
--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/
w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ 
 
Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ 
 
 
 
From:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
 
Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile



From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com 
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST)
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
 
Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry 
professional?  I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a 
negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no 
BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus.  
 
Regards,
 
David


  

RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

2010-03-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
It appears to not be qualified on Server 2008 R2. sigh

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only.

Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010.
Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange - which includes SBS 
2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files 
when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully 
functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from 
RIM.

The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you 
have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as 
normal.

You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service.

The major limitation is the security policies - full BES gives you something 
like 400, you get 35 on Express.

The documentation is here:
http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange

It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the 
policies available.

Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will 
probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at 
port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine.

Simon.


--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/
w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for 
certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? 
http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/

Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/



From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile


From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST)
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express

Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry 
professional?  I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a 
negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no 
BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus.

Regards,

David