BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Doesn't specifically compare against BPS, but should answer some of your questions. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/business/server/express/ComparisonChart_NA_021610_v3.pdf Thanks, JB From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
I think that's a plain old BLACKBERRY data plan From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only. Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010. Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange - which includes SBS 2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from RIM. The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as normal. You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service. The major limitation is the security policies - full BES gives you something like 400, you get 35 on Express. The documentation is here: http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the policies available. Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST) To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Simon, Thanks just what i was looking for. David From: Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 3:49:12 PM Subject: RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only. Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010. Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange – which includes SBS 2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from RIM. The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as normal. You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service. The major limitation is the security policies – full BES gives you something like 400, you get 35 on Express. The documentation is here: http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the policies available. Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST) To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
It appears to not be qualified on Server 2008 R2. sigh Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only. Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010. Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange - which includes SBS 2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from RIM. The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as normal. You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service. The major limitation is the security policies - full BES gives you something like 400, you get 35 on Express. The documentation is here: http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the policies available. Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST) To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David