RE: Eseutil Questions

2002-02-25 Thread Michel, David

Just an update here for those who may have to run it.  It took 14 hours for
a single 19.5GB (was compacted to 17.5GB) mailbox store with the hardware
below.  PSS actually told me to expect somewhere between 5-7GB per hour so
they were way off.  Just an FYI.  Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


When I said quoted, that's what I meant!  I read those figures somewhere
(they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd probably be a
bit lower.  To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag often enough to
remember how long it took me; I really don't do them often at all...

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be not
raid.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how much
data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual physical size
of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole
process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just
trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and
4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
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RE: Eseutil Questions

2002-02-25 Thread Milton R Dogg

That pss guy was on crack with that number. That time looks to be very
consistent with everything I have seen. Glad it all went well.

Eseutil on a defrag writes a temp database, beats it up, then writes it
all back to the original priv. Which means in your environment you had
to move at least 40 gigs of data IO wise, and process things. 

Milton R Dogg
Of The Dogg Foundation..

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Just an update here for those who may have to run it.  It took 14 hours
for a single 19.5GB (was compacted to 17.5GB) mailbox store with the
hardware below.  PSS actually told me to expect somewhere between 5-7GB
per hour so they were way off.  Just an FYI.  Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


When I said quoted, that's what I meant!  I read those figures
somewhere (they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd
probably be a bit lower.  To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag
often enough to remember how long it took me; I really don't do them
often at all...

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be
not raid.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how
much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual
physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine
running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this
whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following
info (just trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors
and 4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
954-333-4056  Direct Fax
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AW: RE : Eseutil Questions

2002-02-23 Thread Rickenbacher Beat

eseutil /?
or
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q182903
or
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q192185
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q244525)
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q183888)
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q255035)
or
((http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/support/edrv3p1.asp
and))
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/support/edrv3p2.asp
(detailed information)
or
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/maintain/optimize/edbw
p.asp

or
For more information about ESEUTIL, see the Eseutil.rtf document on the
Exchange 5.5 compact disc in the Support\utils directory.

Ricki

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Gérard Dumazet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Februar 2002 07:35
An: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Betreff: RE : Eseutil Questions


I have also to clean my databases and run eseutil can you point me on a
whitepaper how exactly to do it
thanks

-Message d'origine-
De : Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Envoyé : vendredi 22 février 2002 16:55
À : MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Objet : RE: Eseutil Questions

Thanks for the info.  I haven't done one of these either in about 3
years
and wouldn't be doing it if PSS had not requested it.  

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


They take for ever when you have a big store. I like to time them and
play
with the numbers. Boredom will lead to odd things.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


When I said quoted, that's what I meant!  I read those figures
somewhere
(they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd probably be
a
bit lower.  To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag often enough
to
remember how long it took me; I really don't do them often at all...

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be
not
raid.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how
much
data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual physical
size
of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this
whole
process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info
(just
trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors
and
4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
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RE: RE : Eseutil Questions

2002-02-23 Thread David N. Precht

Great links, thanks !

-Original Message-
From: Rickenbacher Beat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 20:26
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: AW: RE : Eseutil Questions


eseutil /?
or http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q182903
or http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q192185
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q244525)
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q183888)
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q255035)
or
((http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/support/edrv3p1.
asp
and))
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/support/edrv3p2.as
p
(detailed information)
or
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/maintain/optimize/
edbw
p.asp

or
For more information about ESEUTIL, see the Eseutil.rtf document on the
Exchange 5.5 compact disc in the Support\utils directory.

Ricki

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Gérard Dumazet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Februar 2002 07:35
An: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Betreff: RE : Eseutil Questions


I have also to clean my databases and run eseutil can you point me on a
whitepaper how exactly to do it thanks

-Message d'origine-
De : Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Envoyé : vendredi 22 février 2002 16:55
À : MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Objet : RE: Eseutil Questions

Thanks for the info.  I haven't done one of these either in about 3
years and wouldn't be doing it if PSS had not requested it.  

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


They take for ever when you have a big store. I like to time them and
play with the numbers. Boredom will lead to odd things.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


When I said quoted, that's what I meant!  I read those figures
somewhere (they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd
probably be a bit lower.  To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag
often enough to remember how long it took me; I really don't do them
often at all...

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be
not raid.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how
much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual
physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine
running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this
whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following
info (just trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors
and 4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
954-333-4056  Direct Fax
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Eseutil Questions

2002-02-22 Thread Michel, David

In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole
process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just
trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and
4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
954-333-4056  Direct Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Eseutil Questions

2002-02-22 Thread Kevin Miller

25-45 minutes per gig has been my experience. On that hardware with
50/50 IO cache on the RAID, best guess would be 32 minutes. The biggest
factor being disk IO.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this
whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following
info (just trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors
and 4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
954-333-4056  Direct Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Eseutil Questions

2002-02-22 Thread Neil Hobson

I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how
much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual
physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine
running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this
whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following
info (just trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors
and 4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
954-333-4056  Direct Fax
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RE: Eseutil Questions

2002-02-22 Thread Kevin Miller

Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be
not raid.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how
much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual
physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine
running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this
whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following
info (just trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors
and 4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
954-333-4056  Direct Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Eseutil Questions

2002-02-22 Thread Neil Hobson

When I said quoted, that's what I meant!  I read those figures
somewhere (they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd
probably be a bit lower.  To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag
often enough to remember how long it took me; I really don't do them
often at all...

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be
not raid.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how
much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual
physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine
running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this
whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following
info (just trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors
and 4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
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RE: Eseutil Questions

2002-02-22 Thread Kevin Miller

They take for ever when you have a big store. I like to time them and
play with the numbers. Boredom will lead to odd things.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


When I said quoted, that's what I meant!  I read those figures
somewhere (they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd
probably be a bit lower.  To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag
often enough to remember how long it took me; I really don't do them
often at all...

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be
not raid.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how
much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual
physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine
running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this
whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following
info (just trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors
and 4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
954-333-4056  Direct Fax
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RE: Eseutil Questions

2002-02-22 Thread Kevin Miller

Very smart man... 

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Thanks for the info.  I haven't done one of these either in about 3
years and wouldn't be doing it if PSS had not requested it.  

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


They take for ever when you have a big store. I like to time them and
play with the numbers. Boredom will lead to odd things.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


When I said quoted, that's what I meant!  I read those figures
somewhere (they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd
probably be a bit lower.  To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag
often enough to remember how long it took me; I really don't do them
often at all...

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be
not raid.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how
much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual
physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine
running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this
whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following
info (just trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors
and 4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
954-333-4056  Direct Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Eseutil Questions

2002-02-22 Thread Michel, David

Thanks for the info.  I haven't done one of these either in about 3 years
and wouldn't be doing it if PSS had not requested it.  

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


They take for ever when you have a big store. I like to time them and play
with the numbers. Boredom will lead to odd things.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


When I said quoted, that's what I meant!  I read those figures somewhere
(they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd probably be a
bit lower.  To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag often enough to
remember how long it took me; I really don't do them often at all...

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be not
raid.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how much
data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual physical size
of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole
process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just
trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and
4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
954-333-4056  Direct Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Eseutil Questions

2002-02-22 Thread John Weber

The last eseutil I was forced into running did a 1.5 Gb edb in less than
30 minutes.
PE2400, RAID, PIII-500 with 512Mb.

I left for coffee and junk food and it was done when I got back.
YMMV

John Weber
Consultant
Centerlogic
503-262-0490 x203


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 07:19
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be
not raid.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how
much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual
physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine
running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this
whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following
info (just trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors
and 4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
954-333-4056  Direct Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE : Eseutil Questions

2002-02-22 Thread Gérard Dumazet

I have also to clean my databases and run eseutil can you point me on a
whitepaper how exactly to do it
thanks

-Message d'origine-
De : Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Envoyé : vendredi 22 février 2002 16:55
À : MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Objet : RE: Eseutil Questions

Thanks for the info.  I haven't done one of these either in about 3
years
and wouldn't be doing it if PSS had not requested it.  

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


They take for ever when you have a big store. I like to time them and
play
with the numbers. Boredom will lead to odd things.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


When I said quoted, that's what I meant!  I read those figures
somewhere
(they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd probably be
a
bit lower.  To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag often enough
to
remember how long it took me; I really don't do them often at all...

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be
not
raid.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions


I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how
much
data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual physical
size
of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine running it.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Eseutil Questions
Subject: Eseutil Questions


In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run
eseutil /d on my stores.  Does anyone have any idea of how long this
whole
process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info
(just
trying to plan my weekend):

2 mailbox stores total
6 storage groups total
~300 mailboxes total
~30GB total edb size
~20GB is largest single edb

Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors
and
4GB RAM

Thanks in advance.




David S. Michel
MCSE/CNE
Systems Engineer
Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.
200 East Broward Boulevard
Suite 1600
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
954-527-2456  Direct Phone
954-333-4056  Direct Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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