Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

2001-10-19 Thread John Sparrow

hi all

sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
box??

currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its friday

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
http://www.travco.co.uk


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RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

2001-10-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz

You can't install it on NT4.  Period.  Exchange 2K REQUIRES Active
Directory.  Read through the documentation. :)

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


 -Original Message-
From:   John Sparrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, October 19, 2001 8:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

hi all

sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
box??

currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its friday

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
http://www.travco.co.uk


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
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RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

2001-10-19 Thread Neil Hobson

The sort of problem you're likely to see is that the install will fail
due to the lack of Active Directory... ;-)

No W2k AD = no E2k.

Neil

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Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


hi all

sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an
NT box??

currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k
pro workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its
friday

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
http://www.travco.co.uk


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Re: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

2001-10-19 Thread Rick Gasper

You need to have at least windows 2k and sp1 with active directory running.

I am sure you will get the same response many more times.

here is everything you need to know:

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/sysreq/default.asp

Rick Gasper

- Original Message -
From: John Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:47 AM
Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


 hi all

 sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

 what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
 box??

 currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
 workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

 probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its
friday

 John Sparrow
 IT Support Assistant
 Computer Department
 Travco Ltd, London
 http://www.travco.co.uk


 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




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RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

2001-10-19 Thread Tom.Gray

Lots of people will tell you it won't work.
Most won't tell you why.

Here is an overly simplified explaination.

 Exchange 5.5 and lower has basically 3 components:
1. Message store.  Think of this as the big database where all the mail
is
2. Connectors.   This is how mail gets in and out.  Like SMTP, CCMail,
MSmail etc)
 AND this is how the directory gets to and from other exchange
servers
3. Directory.  This is the list of users and global address list, and
the permissions, properties and such.  

  Well, along comes Win2k.  The directory (Active Directory) is basically
  and enhanced (stolen) version of the directory in exchange 5.5.  In order
  for active directory to work, the directory has to be distributed/shared
with
  other Win2k servers so the connectors are also built into win2k.
  So Exchange 2k is left with only the message store.  It should be cheaper
but
  it ain't!   If you somehow managed to install E2k on NT4, you would have
no
  mailbox names and no mail transports!

Once again, overly simplified to save bandwidth.


Tom Gray, Network Engineer
All Kinds of Minds  The Center for Development and Learning
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: John Sparrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


hi all

sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
box??

currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its friday

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
http://www.travco.co.uk


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not?? ------NOT!!!

2001-10-19 Thread John Sparrow

thanks everyone

kinda get the picture :D

had a feeling that, that was the case, i guess i was hoping that there was
some sort of workaround or something

thnaks tho

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
http://www.travco.co.uk


-Original Message-
From: Rick Gasper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


You need to have at least windows 2k and sp1 with active directory running.

I am sure you will get the same response many more times.

here is everything you need to know:

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/sysreq/default.asp

Rick Gasper

- Original Message -
From: John Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:47 AM
Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


 hi all

 sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

 what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
 box??

 currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
 workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

 probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its
friday

 John Sparrow
 IT Support Assistant
 Computer Department
 Travco Ltd, London
 http://www.travco.co.uk


 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

2001-10-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Exchange 2000 runs ONLY on Win2k - it uses Active Directory - Something
missing from NT4 :)

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
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-Original Message-
From: John Sparrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 01:47:PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

hi all

sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
box??

currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its friday

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
http://www.travco.co.uk


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not?? ------NOT!!! -- depen ds on the features

2001-10-19 Thread Ellery July

Interestingly, I number of people have asked me the same question. My first
response is to just yell back NO.

Now I ask what is it about exchange 2000 that you feel a need to upgrade?
Upgrade for Upgrade or is there some feature(s) you  need. If it is a
feature there are very good third party programs which will give you lots of
the new features you get in E2K that run very well and cheaper on E5.5.

So what features do you want from E2K that you can not get from E5.5? May we
can help?

ellery july
Technical Lead
Northwest Area Foundation
332 Minnesota
e-1201 
St. Paul, MN 55101
email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone - 651-225-3895 
fax   - 651-225-7695  

-Original Message-
From: John Sparrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not?? --NOT!!!


thanks everyone

kinda get the picture :D

had a feeling that, that was the case, i guess i was hoping that there was
some sort of workaround or something

thnaks tho

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
http://www.travco.co.uk


-Original Message-
From: Rick Gasper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


You need to have at least windows 2k and sp1 with active directory running.

I am sure you will get the same response many more times.

here is everything you need to know:

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/sysreq/default.asp

Rick Gasper

- Original Message -
From: John Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:47 AM
Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


 hi all

 sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

 what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
 box??

 currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
 workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

 probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its
friday

 John Sparrow
 IT Support Assistant
 Computer Department
 Travco Ltd, London
 http://www.travco.co.uk


 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


List Charter and FAQ at:
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