Exchange and Yahoo Desktop

2009-11-17 Thread mqcarp
Does anyone allow this tool on their network? I have some serious RPC
latency going on and I think it is from these users. I am running
Exmon now to review it but wanted to see if anyone has seen this
before.

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RE: Exchange and Yahoo Desktop

2009-11-17 Thread Doug Rooney
I block ALL tool-bars, backgrounds and any stationary. It not only slows
things down, it is useless bulk being stored.

 

Thank You 

~Doug Rooney 
Sonoma Tilemakers 
IT Manager 
7750 Bell Rd. 
Windsor Ca, 95492 
(707) 837-8177 X211
(707) 837-9472 FAX 
i...@sonomatilemakers.com <mailto:i...@sonomatilemakers.com>  

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange and Yahoo Desktop

 

Does anyone allow this tool on their network? I have some serious RPC

latency going on and I think it is from these users. I am running

Exmon now to review it but wanted to see if anyone has seen this

before.

 

EXCH03

 



Re: Exchange and Yahoo Desktop

2009-11-17 Thread Andrew Levicki
And potential spyware / hack surface.

Andrew.

On 17/11/2009, Doug Rooney  wrote:
> I block ALL tool-bars, backgrounds and any stationary. It not only slows
> things down, it is useless bulk being stored.
>
>
>
> Thank You
>
> ~Doug Rooney
> Sonoma Tilemakers
> IT Manager
> 7750 Bell Rd.
> Windsor Ca, 95492
> (707) 837-8177 X211
> (707) 837-9472 FAX
> i...@sonomatilemakers.com <mailto:i...@sonomatilemakers.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:58 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange and Yahoo Desktop
>
>
>
> Does anyone allow this tool on their network? I have some serious RPC
>
> latency going on and I think it is from these users. I am running
>
> Exmon now to review it but wanted to see if anyone has seen this
>
> before.
>
>
>
> EXCH03
>
>
>
>

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Re: Exchange and Yahoo Desktop

2009-11-17 Thread mqcarp
It was initially used because a group was using public folders to
manage faxes. I know this is inappropriate and it has gotten out of
control so we are changing it. The YD can index public folders and I
am seeing that this is creating crazy RPC latency. It is being
outlawed now and we will find a different process.

What I find odd is that calendars are latent intensive also. I am
looking at whether that is related.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Andrew Levicki  wrote:
> And potential spyware / hack surface.
>
> Andrew.
>
> On 17/11/2009, Doug Rooney  wrote:
>> I block ALL tool-bars, backgrounds and any stationary. It not only slows
>> things down, it is useless bulk being stored.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You
>>
>> ~Doug Rooney
>> Sonoma Tilemakers
>> IT Manager
>> 7750 Bell Rd.
>> Windsor Ca, 95492
>> (707) 837-8177 X211
>> (707) 837-9472 FAX
>> i...@sonomatilemakers.com <mailto:i...@sonomatilemakers.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:58 AM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: Exchange and Yahoo Desktop
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone allow this tool on their network? I have some serious RPC
>>
>> latency going on and I think it is from these users. I am running
>>
>> Exmon now to review it but wanted to see if anyone has seen this
>>
>> before.
>>
>>
>>
>> EXCH03
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
>



Re: Exchange and Yahoo Desktop

2009-11-17 Thread Sean Martin
I tracked down a similar issue to users that had installed Xobni without
permission. Those instances were causing MAPI session errors ( *exceeded the
maximum of 500 objects of type "objtFolder"* ). Didn't take long to get that
app uninstalled.

Still trying to track down the cause of other users with unusual RPC
activity. It's a never ending battle!

- Sean

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM, mqcarp  wrote:

> Does anyone allow this tool on their network? I have some serious RPC
> latency going on and I think it is from these users. I am running
> Exmon now to review it but wanted to see if anyone has seen this
> before.
>
> EXCH03
>
>


Re: Exchange and Yahoo Desktop

2009-11-18 Thread Steven Peck
exmon can help with user identification.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb508855(EXCHG.65).aspx
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Microsoft-Exchange-Server-User-Monitor.html

Xobni should be ok as long as the user is in cached mode.


On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Sean Martin  wrote:
> I tracked down a similar issue to users that had installed Xobni without
> permission. Those instances were causing MAPI session errors ( exceeded the
> maximum of 500 objects of type "objtFolder" ). Didn't take long to get that
> app uninstalled.
>
> Still trying to track down the cause of other users with unusual RPC
> activity. It's a never ending battle!
>
> - Sean
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM, mqcarp  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone allow this tool on their network? I have some serious RPC
>> latency going on and I think it is from these users. I am running
>> Exmon now to review it but wanted to see if anyone has seen this
>> before.
>>
>> EXCH03
>>
>
>



Re: Exchange and Yahoo Desktop

2009-11-18 Thread Sean Martin
Thanks. That is what I used to identify the suspect users causing abnormal
MAPI operations. I don't have the details in front of me, but a large
majority of them were flagged as failed MAPI Find Row operations.

I have a feeling CRM may have something to do with it as that is the only
commonality between the users identified.

- Sean

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

> exmon can help with user identification.
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb508855(EXCHG.65).aspx
>
> http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Microsoft-Exchange-Server-User-Monitor.html
>
> Xobni should be ok as long as the user is in cached mode.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Sean Martin 
> wrote:
> > I tracked down a similar issue to users that had installed Xobni without
> > permission. Those instances were causing MAPI session errors ( exceeded
> the
> > maximum of 500 objects of type "objtFolder" ). Didn't take long to get
> that
> > app uninstalled.
> >
> > Still trying to track down the cause of other users with unusual RPC
> > activity. It's a never ending battle!
> >
> > - Sean
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM, mqcarp  wrote:
> >>
> >> Does anyone allow this tool on their network? I have some serious RPC
> >> latency going on and I think it is from these users. I am running
> >> Exmon now to review it but wanted to see if anyone has seen this
> >> before.
> >>
> >> EXCH03
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


Re: Exchange and Yahoo Desktop

2009-11-19 Thread Steven Peck
See what happens if you force them to cached mode.  The CRM app may or
may not work at that point.  If it does and it hammers the locally
cached data, then you reduce IO n the Exchange server.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
> Thanks. That is what I used to identify the suspect users causing abnormal
> MAPI operations. I don't have the details in front of me, but a large
> majority of them were flagged as failed MAPI Find Row operations.
>
> I have a feeling CRM may have something to do with it as that is the only
> commonality between the users identified.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>>
>> exmon can help with user identification.
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb508855(EXCHG.65).aspx
>>
>> http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Microsoft-Exchange-Server-User-Monitor.html
>>
>> Xobni should be ok as long as the user is in cached mode.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Sean Martin 
>> wrote:
>> > I tracked down a similar issue to users that had installed Xobni without
>> > permission. Those instances were causing MAPI session errors ( exceeded
>> > the
>> > maximum of 500 objects of type "objtFolder" ). Didn't take long to get
>> > that
>> > app uninstalled.
>> >
>> > Still trying to track down the cause of other users with unusual RPC
>> > activity. It's a never ending battle!
>> >
>> > - Sean
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM, mqcarp  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone allow this tool on their network? I have some serious RPC
>> >> latency going on and I think it is from these users. I am running
>> >> Exmon now to review it but wanted to see if anyone has seen this
>> >> before.
>> >>
>> >> EXCH03
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>



Re: Exchange and Yahoo Desktop

2009-11-19 Thread Sean Martin
I could probably test that theory. Unfortunately, these users all  
access apps via Citrix, so cached mode isn't an option.


- Sean



On Nov 18, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:


See what happens if you force them to cached mode.  The CRM app may or
may not work at that point.  If it does and it hammers the locally
cached data, then you reduce IO n the Exchange server.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Sean Martin  
 wrote:
Thanks. That is what I used to identify the suspect users causing  
abnormal

MAPI operations. I don't have the details in front of me, but a large
majority of them were flagged as failed MAPI Find Row operations.

I have a feeling CRM may have something to do with it as that is  
the only

commonality between the users identified.

- Sean

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Steven Peck   
wrote:


exmon can help with user identification.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb508855(EXCHG.65).aspx

http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Microsoft-Exchange-Server-User-Monitor.html

Xobni should be ok as long as the user is in cached mode.


On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Sean Martin >

wrote:
I tracked down a similar issue to users that had installed Xobni  
without
permission. Those instances were causing MAPI session errors  
( exceeded

the
maximum of 500 objects of type "objtFolder" ). Didn't take long  
to get

that
app uninstalled.

Still trying to track down the cause of other users with unusual  
RPC

activity. It's a never ending battle!

- Sean

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM, mqcarp   
wrote:


Does anyone allow this tool on their network? I have some  
serious RPC

latency going on and I think it is from these users. I am running
Exmon now to review it but wanted to see if anyone has seen this
before.

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