MX/txt record confusion

2008-01-24 Thread Jeff Brown
I have a secondary domain setup in my exchange environment, only a couple of
folks using that domain email.

Got an ndr that says unable to relay for mail.primarydomain.com at x.x.x.x
.

I have setup mx, A and txt records for the secondary email domain,
mail.secondarydomain.com

This was done with the help of a consultant who is an exchange specialist,
in whom I have a lot of confidence.

That being said, I'm wondering if exchange ever really sends mail out using
mail.secondarydomain.com??

Can someone enlighten me please?

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RE: MX/txt record confusion

2008-01-24 Thread Don Andrews
It should - we do it all the time with a half dozen domains -
unfortunately I'm not the exchange guy so I may not have answers on what
else may need to be done.

 



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: MX/txt record confusion

 

I have a secondary domain setup in my exchange environment, only a
couple of folks using that domain email.

 

Got an ndr that says unable to relay for mail.primarydomain.com at
x.x.x.x.  

 

I have setup mx, A and txt records for the secondary email domain,
mail.secondarydomain.com

 

This was done with the help of a consultant who is an exchange
specialist, in whom I have a lot of confidence.  

 

That being said, I'm wondering if exchange ever really sends mail out
using mail.secondarydomain.com??

 

Can someone enlighten me please? 

 


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Re: MX/txt record confusion

2008-01-24 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
So, from the outside, you tried to send an e-mail to your MX record
for mail.primarydomain.com, and you got an unable to relay NDR
(bounce) message?  Was that address local to that MX record?  If yes,
you probably have a spam filter issue.

Note:  TXT records are for specifying SPF or SenderID information.
You are still missing PTR records.

Does your mail server do the DNS ménage à trois?
http://www.espinola.net/blog/archives/5


On Jan 24, 2008 4:14 PM, Jeff Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a secondary domain setup in my exchange environment, only a couple of
 folks using that domain email.

 Got an ndr that says unable to relay for mail.primarydomain.com at x.x.x.x.

 I have setup mx, A and txt records for the secondary email domain,
 mail.secondarydomain.com

 This was done with the help of a consultant who is an exchange specialist,
 in whom I have a lot of confidence.

 That being said, I'm wondering if exchange ever really sends mail out using
 mail.secondarydomain.com??

 Can someone enlighten me please?





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Re: MX/txt record confusion

2008-01-24 Thread Don Ely
Recipient Policy needs to be updated with the new domain info...

On Jan 24, 2008 1:14 PM, Jeff Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a secondary domain setup in my exchange environment, only a couple
 of folks using that domain email.

 Got an ndr that says unable to relay for mail.primarydomain.com at x.x.x.x
 .

 I have setup mx, A and txt records for the secondary email domain,
 mail.secondarydomain.com

 This was done with the help of a consultant who is an exchange specialist,
 in whom I have a lot of confidence.

 That being said, I'm wondering if exchange ever really sends mail out
 using mail.secondarydomain.com??

 Can someone enlighten me please?




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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: MX/txt record confusion

2008-01-24 Thread Michael B. Smith
Would you please update the link in that article to:

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/verifying-
dns-configurations-using-powershell.aspx

Thanks...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MX/txt record confusion

So, from the outside, you tried to send an e-mail to your MX record
for mail.primarydomain.com, and you got an unable to relay NDR
(bounce) message?  Was that address local to that MX record?  If yes,
you probably have a spam filter issue.

Note:  TXT records are for specifying SPF or SenderID information.
You are still missing PTR records.

Does your mail server do the DNS ménage à trois?
http://www.espinola.net/blog/archives/5


On Jan 24, 2008 4:14 PM, Jeff Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a secondary domain setup in my exchange environment, only a couple
of
 folks using that domain email.

 Got an ndr that says unable to relay for mail.primarydomain.com at
x.x.x.x.

 I have setup mx, A and txt records for the secondary email domain,
 mail.secondarydomain.com

 This was done with the help of a consultant who is an exchange specialist,
 in whom I have a lot of confidence.

 That being said, I'm wondering if exchange ever really sends mail out
using
 mail.secondarydomain.com??

 Can someone enlighten me please?





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Re: MX/txt record confusion

2008-01-24 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Whoops.  Thought I caught that.  Done.

On Jan 24, 2008 4:28 PM, Michael B. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Would you please update the link in that article to:

 http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/verifying-
 dns-configurations-using-powershell.aspx

 Thanks...

 Regards,

 Michael B. Smith
 MCSE/Exchange MVP
 http://TheEssentialExchange.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: MX/txt record confusion

 So, from the outside, you tried to send an e-mail to your MX record
 for mail.primarydomain.com, and you got an unable to relay NDR
 (bounce) message?  Was that address local to that MX record?  If yes,
 you probably have a spam filter issue.

 Note:  TXT records are for specifying SPF or SenderID information.
 You are still missing PTR records.

 Does your mail server do the DNS ménage à trois?
 http://www.espinola.net/blog/archives/5


 On Jan 24, 2008 4:14 PM, Jeff Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a secondary domain setup in my exchange environment, only a couple
 of
  folks using that domain email.
 
  Got an ndr that says unable to relay for mail.primarydomain.com at
 x.x.x.x.
 
  I have setup mx, A and txt records for the secondary email domain,
  mail.secondarydomain.com
 
  This was done with the help of a consultant who is an exchange specialist,
  in whom I have a lot of confidence.
 
  That being said, I'm wondering if exchange ever really sends mail out
 using
  mail.secondarydomain.com??
 
  Can someone enlighten me please?
 
 




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RE: MX/txt record confusion

2008-01-24 Thread Michael B. Smith
And I thought I e-mailed you directly instead of on the list. Sorry about
that...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:44 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MX/txt record confusion

Whoops.  Thought I caught that.  Done.

On Jan 24, 2008 4:28 PM, Michael B. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Would you please update the link in that article to:


http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/verifying-
 dns-configurations-using-powershell.aspx

 Thanks...

 Regards,

 Michael B. Smith
 MCSE/Exchange MVP
 http://TheEssentialExchange.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: MX/txt record confusion

 So, from the outside, you tried to send an e-mail to your MX record
 for mail.primarydomain.com, and you got an unable to relay NDR
 (bounce) message?  Was that address local to that MX record?  If yes,
 you probably have a spam filter issue.

 Note:  TXT records are for specifying SPF or SenderID information.
 You are still missing PTR records.

 Does your mail server do the DNS ménage à trois?
 http://www.espinola.net/blog/archives/5


 On Jan 24, 2008 4:14 PM, Jeff Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a secondary domain setup in my exchange environment, only a
couple
 of
  folks using that domain email.
 
  Got an ndr that says unable to relay for mail.primarydomain.com at
 x.x.x.x.
 
  I have setup mx, A and txt records for the secondary email domain,
  mail.secondarydomain.com
 
  This was done with the help of a consultant who is an exchange
specialist,
  in whom I have a lot of confidence.
 
  That being said, I'm wondering if exchange ever really sends mail out
 using
  mail.secondarydomain.com??
 
  Can someone enlighten me please?
 
 




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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~




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Re: MX/txt record confusion

2008-01-24 Thread Jeff Brown
An employee who uses an @secondarydomain.  address sent a message to someone
and their mail server did the reverse lookup and bounced the message.  The
smpt message says,  mail.primarydomain.com #5.5.0 smtp;553 sorry, relaying
denied from your location  and then has to correct IP address listed at the
end of that message.
Only reason I can see for it to fail to lookup would be the inconsistency
between her email address and the mx lookup or whatever resolved to
mail.primarydomain.com and not mail.secondarydomain.com??  As you can see, I
have only a very basic grasp of what may be going on here.



On Jan 24, 2008 3:21 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 So, from the outside, you tried to send an e-mail to your MX record
 for mail.primarydomain.com, and you got an unable to relay NDR
 (bounce) message?  Was that address local to that MX record?  If yes,
 you probably have a spam filter issue.

 Note:  TXT records are for specifying SPF or SenderID information.
 You are still missing PTR records.

 Does your mail server do the DNS ménage à trois?
 http://www.espinola.net/blog/archives/5


 On Jan 24, 2008 4:14 PM, Jeff Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a secondary domain setup in my exchange environment, only a
 couple of
  folks using that domain email.
 
  Got an ndr that says unable to relay for mail.primarydomain.com at
 x.x.x.x.
 
  I have setup mx, A and txt records for the secondary email domain,
  mail.secondarydomain.com
 
  This was done with the help of a consultant who is an exchange
 specialist,
  in whom I have a lot of confidence.
 
  That being said, I'm wondering if exchange ever really sends mail out
 using
  mail.secondarydomain.com??
 
  Can someone enlighten me please?
 
 



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 ME2

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


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RE: MX/txt record confusion

2008-01-24 Thread Don Andrews
If it's outbound, it sounds like PTR or SPF issues.  Although I've heard that 
there are some domains that expect sending SMTP servers to have MX records 
whether or not they accept inbound mail - sounds crazy to me.

 



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MX/txt record confusion

 

An employee who uses an @secondarydomain.  address sent a message to someone 
and their mail server did the reverse lookup and bounced the message.  The smpt 
message says,  mail.primarydomain.com #5.5.0 smtp;553 sorry, relaying denied 
from your location  and then has to correct IP address listed at the end of 
that message.

Only reason I can see for it to fail to lookup would be the inconsistency 
between her email address and the mx lookup or whatever resolved to 
mail.primarydomain.com and not mail.secondarydomain.com??  As you can see, I 
have only a very basic grasp of what may be going on here.

 


 

On Jan 24, 2008 3:21 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So, from the outside, you tried to send an e-mail to your MX record
for mail.primarydomain.com http://mail.primarydomain.com/ , and you got an 
unable to relay NDR
(bounce) message?  Was that address local to that MX record?  If yes,
you probably have a spam filter issue.

Note:  TXT records are for specifying SPF or SenderID information. 
You are still missing PTR records.

Does your mail server do the DNS ménage à trois?
http://www.espinola.net/blog/archives/5



On Jan 24, 2008 4:14 PM, Jeff Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a secondary domain setup in my exchange environment, only a couple of 
 folks using that domain email.

 Got an ndr that says unable to relay for mail.primarydomain.com 
 http://mail.primarydomain.com/  at x.x.x.x.

 I have setup mx, A and txt records for the secondary email domain, 
 mail.secondarydomain.com http://mail.secondarydomain.com/ 

 This was done with the help of a consultant who is an exchange specialist,
 in whom I have a lot of confidence. 

 That being said, I'm wondering if exchange ever really sends mail out using
 mail.secondarydomain.com http://mail.secondarydomain.com/ ??

 Can someone enlighten me please? 






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