RE: A/V Scanning

2008-11-07 Thread Bob Fronk
You need both.  You want to catch what you can at the gateway, but
whatever slips by the gateway and into the store can be caught when
definitions are updated.  Otherwise, new viruses could get past the
gateway undetected and you would never find them without store scanning.

 

JMHO

 

Bob Fronk

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From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: A/V Scanning

 

Need some thoughts on anti-virus scanning.  

 

If all email is scanned at the gateway, is it still advisable to have
scanning software for the information store?  I'm thinking  that while
it adds more depth to the protection, it really doesn't do much unless
it uses different engines than the gateway.

 

Any concensus on this?

 

 

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

  

 

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Re: A/V Scanning

2008-11-07 Thread Don Andrews
IS scanning will also catch output from an infected client that did not come in 
through the gateway.  

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From: Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Fri Nov 07 07:28:00 2008
Subject: RE: A/V Scanning

You need both.  You want to catch what you can at the gateway, but whatever 
slips by the gateway and into the store can be caught when definitions are 
updated.  Otherwise, new viruses could get past the gateway undetected and you 
would never find them without store scanning.

 

JMHO

 

Bob Fronk

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: A/V Scanning

 

Need some thoughts on anti-virus scanning.  

 

If all email is scanned at the gateway, is it still advisable to have scanning 
software for the information store?  I’m thinking  that while  it adds more 
depth to the protection, it really doesn’t do much unless it uses different 
engines than the gateway.

 

Any concensus on this?

 

 

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

  



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RE: A/V Scanning

2008-11-07 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Both, and use different vendors for each system. I had one slip past the 
gateway AV but get caught by the Exchange server.


From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: A/V Scanning

Need some thoughts on anti-virus scanning.

If all email is scanned at the gateway, is it still advisable to have scanning 
software for the information store?  I'm thinking  that while  it adds more 
depth to the protection, it really doesn't do much unless it uses different 
engines than the gateway.

Any concensus on this?



Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388

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RE: A/V Scanning

2008-11-07 Thread Randal, Phil
Even if you use the same vendor, there's still a chance that the A/V
patterns might be updated after arrival at the gateway and before the
recipient tries to access the email.
 
My votes is for both, and multiple scan engines on both gateway and
information store.
 
Cheers,
 
Phil
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Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T.
Services Division 
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From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: RE: A/V Scanning



Both, and use different vendors for each system. I had one slip past the
gateway AV but get caught by the Exchange server.

 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: A/V Scanning

 

Need some thoughts on anti-virus scanning.  

 

If all email is scanned at the gateway, is it still advisable to have
scanning software for the information store?  I'm thinking  that while
it adds more depth to the protection, it really doesn't do much unless
it uses different engines than the gateway.

 

Any concensus on this?

 

 

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

  

 

_

 

 

Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of
magic.--Clarke 

 

 

 

 


 


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Re: A/V Scanning

2008-11-07 Thread James Wells
The only reason NOT to do both is if you have some very large stores
with very large mailbox item counts. VSAPI scanning can start to be a
performance problem in those environments.

For environments with reasonable quotas - no reason not to scan at every level.

On 11/7/08, Randal, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Even if you use the same vendor, there's still a chance that the A/V
 patterns might be updated after arrival at the gateway and before the
 recipient tries to access the email.

 My votes is for both, and multiple scan engines on both gateway and
 information store.

 Cheers,

 Phil
 --
 Phil Randal | Networks Engineer
 Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T.
 Services Division
 Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT
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 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 07 November 2008 14:46
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: A/V Scanning



 Both, and use different vendors for each system. I had one slip past the
 gateway AV but get caught by the Exchange server.





 From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:14 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: A/V Scanning



 Need some thoughts on anti-virus scanning.



 If all email is scanned at the gateway, is it still advisable to have
 scanning software for the information store?  I'm thinking  that while
 it adds more depth to the protection, it really doesn't do much unless
 it uses different engines than the gateway.



 Any concensus on this?







 Roger Wright

 Network Administrator

 Evatone, Inc.

 727.572.7076  x388





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RE: A/V Scanning

2008-11-07 Thread Senter, John
I agree.  Also you want to catch anything that a user may bring in, say
on a laptop, that send internally.

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: A/V Scanning

 

You need both.  You want to catch what you can at the gateway, but
whatever slips by the gateway and into the store can be caught when
definitions are updated.  Otherwise, new viruses could get past the
gateway undetected and you would never find them without store scanning.

 

JMHO

 

Bob Fronk

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: A/V Scanning

 

Need some thoughts on anti-virus scanning.  

 

If all email is scanned at the gateway, is it still advisable to have
scanning software for the information store?  I'm thinking  that while
it adds more depth to the protection, it really doesn't do much unless
it uses different engines than the gateway.

 

Any concensus on this?

 

 

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

  

 

_

 

 

Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of
magic.--Clarke 

 

 

 

 


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RE: A/V Scanning

2008-11-07 Thread Roger Wright
Thanks for the pointers, all.  Sounds like dual protection is the way to
go.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

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From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: A/V Scanning

 

Need some thoughts on anti-virus scanning.  

 

If all email is scanned at the gateway, is it still advisable to have
scanning software for the information store?  I'm thinking  that while
it adds more depth to the protection, it really doesn't do much unless
it uses different engines than the gateway.

 

Any concensus on this?

 

 

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

  

 

_

 

 

Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of
magic.--Clarke 

 

 


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RE: A/V Scanning

2008-11-07 Thread Don Andrews
We actually do 3 - 1 at the gateway, different one on the IS with
multiple engines and a 3rd for desktop/server file systems.

 



From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 7:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: A/V Scanning

 

Thanks for the pointers, all.  Sounds like dual protection is the way to
go.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: A/V Scanning

 

Need some thoughts on anti-virus scanning.  

 

If all email is scanned at the gateway, is it still advisable to have
scanning software for the information store?  I'm thinking  that while
it adds more depth to the protection, it really doesn't do much unless
it uses different engines than the gateway.

 

Any concensus on this?

 

 

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

  

 

_

 

 

Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of
magic.--Clarke 

 

 

 

 


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RE: A/V Scanning

2008-11-07 Thread Jake Gardner
We do gateway, server, and client scanning.
 
If you're not checking it, it's probably getting infected.
 
 
 
Thanks,
 
Jake Gardner
TTC Network Administrator
Ext. 246
 



From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: A/V Scanning



Thanks for the pointers, all.  Sounds like dual protection is the way to
go.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: A/V Scanning

 

Need some thoughts on anti-virus scanning.  

 

If all email is scanned at the gateway, is it still advisable to have
scanning software for the information store?  I'm thinking  that while
it adds more depth to the protection, it really doesn't do much unless
it uses different engines than the gateway.

 

Any concensus on this?

 

 

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

  

 

_

 

 

Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of
magic.--Clarke 

 

 


 


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