RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem

2002-06-18 Thread William Lefkovics

NAMES!  I WANT NAMES!


-Original Message-
From: Brad Metzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem


Really? Interesting... our Exchange 2000 migration expert who was here
at $100+ per hour was very convinced that those exchange tasks and tabs
should be showing up on our DC's after the ADC installation on a
stand-alone server. He actually left about an hour ago planning on
sending out an MCSE tommorrow believing that our Schema was the problem.
He said even without any action regarding Exchange 2k, we should have
exchange tasks in the AD users and computers manager to manage the
exchange 5.5 mailboxes for our users.

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Keith Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem


Brad those tabs only show up on the computers that have ADC installed or
Exchange Admin tools.

Keith Nelson
Network Administrator
Orange County High School of the Arts



 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Metzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:56 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem
 
 
 We did run the forestprep and domainprep as the exchange
 service account.
 There weren't any errors, but afterward there are still no 
 exchange tabs or
 tasks in the active directory users and computer. I'm 
 assuming the edits
 didn't take place because I am not seeing those items.
 
 Brad
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Cook, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:47 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem
 
 
 Hmmm...Does the Domain Admin account have Exchange service account 
 permissions?  To run /forestprep and /domainprep it is recommended you

 use the Exchange service account.  When you got the ADC up, could
 you create a
 connection agreement?  Further, how do you know the schema 
 edits didn't take
 place?  Did you use the support tool for that?
 
 Jason Cook
 J.H. Ellwood and Associates 
 Network Administrator 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Metzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 3:33 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: ADC/Extending Schema Problem
 
 We are trying to migrate from Exchange 5.5 to 2k and were
 able to install
 the ADC and it replicated user information over to the AD, 
 but it appears to
 have not extended the schema. We tried re-installing and yet again, it
 didn't extend the schema. We tried running the ADC setup with the
 /schemaonly flag on two different DC's (one the schema 
 master, one not) and
 still it didn't extend the schema. In despiration, we tried running
 forestprep and domainprep on the new server that will be our 
 new exchange 2k
 server to see if that would finally extend the schema, no 
 joy. Anyone have
 any viagra for AD schema, cause ours just doesn't seem to 
 want to extend :)
 
 
 I am looking for any advice on what I might be missing here,
 and perhaps a
 tool for testing whether it is just exchange or whether the schema is
 screwed up somehow.  We tried all of this logged in as domain 
 admin, BTW.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Brad
 
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RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem

2002-06-18 Thread Neil Hobson


It wasn't me.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 18 June 2002 09:33
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: ADC/Extending Schema Problem
Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem


NAMES!  I WANT NAMES!


-Original Message-
From: Brad Metzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem


Really? Interesting... our Exchange 2000 migration expert who was here
at $100+ per hour was very convinced that those exchange tasks and tabs
should be showing up on our DC's after the ADC installation on a
stand-alone server. He actually left about an hour ago planning on
sending out an MCSE tommorrow believing that our Schema was the problem.
He said even without any action regarding Exchange 2k, we should have
exchange tasks in the AD users and computers manager to manage the
exchange 5.5 mailboxes for our users.

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Keith Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem


Brad those tabs only show up on the computers that have ADC installed or
Exchange Admin tools.

Keith Nelson
Network Administrator
Orange County High School of the Arts



 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Metzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:56 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem
 
 
 We did run the forestprep and domainprep as the exchange service 
 account. There weren't any errors, but afterward there are still no
 exchange tabs or
 tasks in the active directory users and computer. I'm 
 assuming the edits
 didn't take place because I am not seeing those items.
 
 Brad
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Cook, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:47 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem
 
 
 Hmmm...Does the Domain Admin account have Exchange service account
 permissions?  To run /forestprep and /domainprep it is recommended you

 use the Exchange service account.  When you got the ADC up, could you 
 create a connection agreement?  Further, how do you know the schema
 edits didn't take
 place?  Did you use the support tool for that?
 
 Jason Cook
 J.H. Ellwood and Associates
 Network Administrator 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Metzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 3:33 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: ADC/Extending Schema Problem
 
 We are trying to migrate from Exchange 5.5 to 2k and were able to 
 install the ADC and it replicated user information over to the AD,
 but it appears to
 have not extended the schema. We tried re-installing and yet again, it
 didn't extend the schema. We tried running the ADC setup with the
 /schemaonly flag on two different DC's (one the schema 
 master, one not) and
 still it didn't extend the schema. In despiration, we tried running
 forestprep and domainprep on the new server that will be our 
 new exchange 2k
 server to see if that would finally extend the schema, no 
 joy. Anyone have
 any viagra for AD schema, cause ours just doesn't seem to 
 want to extend :)
 
 
 I am looking for any advice on what I might be missing here, and 
 perhaps a tool for testing whether it is just exchange or whether the 
 schema is screwed up somehow.  We tried all of this logged in as 
 domain admin, BTW.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Brad
 
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RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem

2002-06-18 Thread William Lefkovics


ADC makes about 435 schema updates using .ldf files.  Those files can be
found in the \adc folder on the Exchange2000 or Exchange2000 sp2 cd.
You can actually run them manually using ldifde.exe.  You can also
confirm the extensions exist with lpd.exe or adsiedit.exe.

Ask for a credit for the time he took trying to figure this out.


-Original Message-
From: Brad Metzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: ADC/Extending Schema Problem


We are trying to migrate from Exchange 5.5 to 2k and were able to
install the ADC and it replicated user information over to the AD, but
it appears to have not extended the schema. We tried re-installing and
yet again, it didn't extend the schema. We tried running the ADC setup
with the /schemaonly flag on two different DC's (one the schema master,
one not) and still it didn't extend the schema. In despiration, we tried
running forestprep and domainprep on the new server that will be our new
exchange 2k server to see if that would finally extend the schema, no
joy. Anyone have any viagra for AD schema, cause ours just doesn't seem
to want to extend :)


I am looking for any advice on what I might be missing here, and perhaps
a tool for testing whether it is just exchange or whether the schema is
screwed up somehow.  We tried all of this logged in as domain admin,
BTW.

Thanks in advance. 

Brad

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RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem

2002-06-18 Thread Neil Hobson


Also Brad, you can check whether the ADC schema extensions have
replicated to DCs by using ADSIEdit or LDP to view the following object:

cn=ms-Exch-Schema-Version-ADC,cn=schema,cn=configuration,dc=all your
domain components etc

Look at this object's 'rangeUpper' attribute, which should be 4197.

The same idea applies to ForestPrep, but the object is

Cn=ms-Exch-Schema-Version-Pt, schemaContainerDN

And the value should be 4397.

Neil

(I don't mean to keep topping your posts William, but your post reminded
me of this info)  :-) 

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 18 June 2002 10:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: ADC/Extending Schema Problem
Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem



ADC makes about 435 schema updates using .ldf files.  Those files can be
found in the \adc folder on the Exchange2000 or Exchange2000 sp2 cd. You
can actually run them manually using ldifde.exe.  You can also confirm
the extensions exist with lpd.exe or adsiedit.exe.

Ask for a credit for the time he took trying to figure this out.


-Original Message-
From: Brad Metzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: ADC/Extending Schema Problem


We are trying to migrate from Exchange 5.5 to 2k and were able to
install the ADC and it replicated user information over to the AD, but
it appears to have not extended the schema. We tried re-installing and
yet again, it didn't extend the schema. We tried running the ADC setup
with the /schemaonly flag on two different DC's (one the schema master,
one not) and still it didn't extend the schema. In despiration, we tried
running forestprep and domainprep on the new server that will be our new
exchange 2k server to see if that would finally extend the schema, no
joy. Anyone have any viagra for AD schema, cause ours just doesn't seem
to want to extend :)


I am looking for any advice on what I might be missing here, and perhaps
a tool for testing whether it is just exchange or whether the schema is
screwed up somehow.  We tried all of this logged in as domain admin,
BTW.

Thanks in advance. 

Brad

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RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem

2002-06-18 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)

First rule of consultancy = No refunds will be given ;-)

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 June 2002 10:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem



ADC makes about 435 schema updates using .ldf files.  Those files can be
found in the \adc folder on the Exchange2000 or Exchange2000 sp2 cd.
You can actually run them manually using ldifde.exe.  You can also
confirm the extensions exist with lpd.exe or adsiedit.exe.

Ask for a credit for the time he took trying to figure this out.


-Original Message-
From: Brad Metzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: ADC/Extending Schema Problem


We are trying to migrate from Exchange 5.5 to 2k and were able to
install the ADC and it replicated user information over to the AD, but
it appears to have not extended the schema. We tried re-installing and
yet again, it didn't extend the schema. We tried running the ADC setup
with the /schemaonly flag on two different DC's (one the schema master,
one not) and still it didn't extend the schema. In despiration, we tried
running forestprep and domainprep on the new server that will be our new
exchange 2k server to see if that would finally extend the schema, no
joy. Anyone have any viagra for AD schema, cause ours just doesn't seem
to want to extend :)


I am looking for any advice on what I might be missing here, and perhaps
a tool for testing whether it is just exchange or whether the schema is
screwed up somehow.  We tried all of this logged in as domain admin,
BTW.

Thanks in advance. 

Brad

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RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem

2002-06-18 Thread William Lefkovics

Please.  Top away.  I insist.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 2:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem



Also Brad, you can check whether the ADC schema extensions have
replicated to DCs by using ADSIEdit or LDP to view the following object:

cn=ms-Exch-Schema-Version-ADC,cn=schema,cn=configuration,dc=all your
domain components etc

Look at this object's 'rangeUpper' attribute, which should be 4197.

The same idea applies to ForestPrep, but the object is

Cn=ms-Exch-Schema-Version-Pt, schemaContainerDN

And the value should be 4397.

Neil

(I don't mean to keep topping your posts William, but your post reminded
me of this info)  :-) 

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 18 June 2002 10:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: ADC/Extending Schema Problem
Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem



ADC makes about 435 schema updates using .ldf files.  Those files can be
found in the \adc folder on the Exchange2000 or Exchange2000 sp2 cd. You
can actually run them manually using ldifde.exe.  You can also confirm
the extensions exist with lpd.exe or adsiedit.exe.

Ask for a credit for the time he took trying to figure this out.


-Original Message-
From: Brad Metzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: ADC/Extending Schema Problem


We are trying to migrate from Exchange 5.5 to 2k and were able to
install the ADC and it replicated user information over to the AD, but
it appears to have not extended the schema. We tried re-installing and
yet again, it didn't extend the schema. We tried running the ADC setup
with the /schemaonly flag on two different DC's (one the schema master,
one not) and still it didn't extend the schema. In despiration, we tried
running forestprep and domainprep on the new server that will be our new
exchange 2k server to see if that would finally extend the schema, no
joy. Anyone have any viagra for AD schema, cause ours just doesn't seem
to want to extend :)


I am looking for any advice on what I might be missing here, and perhaps
a tool for testing whether it is just exchange or whether the schema is
screwed up somehow.  We tried all of this logged in as domain admin,
BTW.

Thanks in advance. 

Brad

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RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem

2002-06-18 Thread William Lefkovics

First rule in hiring a consultant = Invoice Net30 ONLY if satisfied.
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem


First rule of consultancy = No refunds will be given ;-)

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 June 2002 10:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADC/Extending Schema Problem



ADC makes about 435 schema updates using .ldf files.  Those files can be
found in the \adc folder on the Exchange2000 or Exchange2000 sp2 cd. You
can actually run them manually using ldifde.exe.  You can also confirm
the extensions exist with lpd.exe or adsiedit.exe.

Ask for a credit for the time he took trying to figure this out.


-Original Message-
From: Brad Metzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: ADC/Extending Schema Problem


We are trying to migrate from Exchange 5.5 to 2k and were able to
install the ADC and it replicated user information over to the AD, but
it appears to have not extended the schema. We tried re-installing and
yet again, it didn't extend the schema. We tried running the ADC setup
with the /schemaonly flag on two different DC's (one the schema master,
one not) and still it didn't extend the schema. In despiration, we tried
running forestprep and domainprep on the new server that will be our new
exchange 2k server to see if that would finally extend the schema, no
joy. Anyone have any viagra for AD schema, cause ours just doesn't seem
to want to extend :)


I am looking for any advice on what I might be missing here, and perhaps
a tool for testing whether it is just exchange or whether the schema is
screwed up somehow.  We tried all of this logged in as domain admin,
BTW.

Thanks in advance. 

Brad

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