RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
I agree. We've been using the physical 300 for 5 years - no complaints. CFee -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I had the physical 300 model for 5 years or so and have had the virtual appliance version of that model for 2+ years and can't say I've experience much of what you mention below. Everyone's spam is going to be subjective though. I've always had it in global mode. Just mark a few hundred spam/ham msg's and let it go. Pay attention to it for a couple weeks to get thresholds set properly. Then I have a narrow threshold for quarantine I send to an account to check every few weeks for false positives. I've had false positives over the years but white listing those domains fixes that. And even then most of the false positives are because of word filters in the message. It maybe gets 10 min a week of my attention, but you have 10 times the users I do so.. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I do like the Barracuda but... there's just a bunch of nagging things. A few that immediately come to mind are: Support says we have excessive filters (I don't think we do). False positives due to an unexplained Barracuda custom rule. They like to Barracuda whitelist sites we have no interest in. Rate limiting has always been inconsistently applied and support has no idea why. Inconsistent message log search results (which is really annoying when you're trying to help a user find their e-mail). Seemingly simplistic (and obvious) spam is often not blocked (e.g. porn e-mails with an abundance of special characters). Inconsistent blocking, same spam, different recipients, some blocked, some not, no known cause. I dislike that I have to call support because the box is doing something it shouldn't that I can't control. With that said, I have no complaints regarding the quality of their support reps. All in all, given the cost, I think the Barracuda offers a good value but, I'd like something that allows more control and more consistent performance. Thanks for the recommendations! -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? We use Symantec's Brightstor gateway for inbound and outbound mail. Easy to use and reliable. In the past I've used Barracuda. What don't you like about Barracuda? I found the unit I used very flexible. At my old shop we allowed users to have logons to create their own custom controls. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
SUSPECT: RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
We use SonicWall for anti-spam and it has been great. We looked at Barracuda and a couple of cloud services as well as the SonicWall, but they were all significantly more expensive with no additional wins to make the added expenditure worth it (in our opinion). If you have the budget in place and have no problem paying more there is definitely nothing wrong with the Barracuda, it was a very nice device. That said, I would definitely buy the SonicWall again if I was in the same position, it has been rock solid with excellent support when needed. Tim -Original Message- From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 11:47 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: SUSPECT: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I agree. We've been using the physical 300 for 5 years - no complaints. CFee -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I had the physical 300 model for 5 years or so and have had the virtual appliance version of that model for 2+ years and can't say I've experience much of what you mention below. Everyone's spam is going to be subjective though. I've always had it in global mode. Just mark a few hundred spam/ham msg's and let it go. Pay attention to it for a couple weeks to get thresholds set properly. Then I have a narrow threshold for quarantine I send to an account to check every few weeks for false positives. I've had false positives over the years but white listing those domains fixes that. And even then most of the false positives are because of word filters in the message. It maybe gets 10 min a week of my attention, but you have 10 times the users I do so.. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I do like the Barracuda but... there's just a bunch of nagging things. A few that immediately come to mind are: Support says we have excessive filters (I don't think we do). False positives due to an unexplained Barracuda custom rule. They like to Barracuda whitelist sites we have no interest in. Rate limiting has always been inconsistently applied and support has no idea why. Inconsistent message log search results (which is really annoying when you're trying to help a user find their e-mail). Seemingly simplistic (and obvious) spam is often not blocked (e.g. porn e-mails with an abundance of special characters). Inconsistent blocking, same spam, different recipients, some blocked, some not, no known cause. I dislike that I have to call support because the box is doing something it shouldn't that I can't control. With that said, I have no complaints regarding the quality of their support reps. All in all, given the cost, I think the Barracuda offers a good value but, I'd like something that allows more control and more consistent performance. Thanks for the recommendations! -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? We use Symantec's Brightstor gateway for inbound and outbound mail. Easy to use and reliable. In the past I've used Barracuda. What don't you like about Barracuda? I found the unit I used very flexible. At my old shop we allowed users to have logons to create their own custom controls. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions
Re: Anti-spam choices in general?
Check your MS licensing. You might be covered for FOPE and I can highly recommend the service. Sent on the run! On 14 Jan 2013, at 19:46, Carol Fee c...@massbar.org wrote: I agree. We've been using the physical 300 for 5 years - no complaints. CFee -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I had the physical 300 model for 5 years or so and have had the virtual appliance version of that model for 2+ years and can't say I've experience much of what you mention below. Everyone's spam is going to be subjective though. I've always had it in global mode. Just mark a few hundred spam/ham msg's and let it go. Pay attention to it for a couple weeks to get thresholds set properly. Then I have a narrow threshold for quarantine I send to an account to check every few weeks for false positives. I've had false positives over the years but white listing those domains fixes that. And even then most of the false positives are because of word filters in the message. It maybe gets 10 min a week of my attention, but you have 10 times the users I do so.. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I do like the Barracuda but... there's just a bunch of nagging things. A few that immediately come to mind are: Support says we have excessive filters (I don't think we do). False positives due to an unexplained Barracuda custom rule. They like to Barracuda whitelist sites we have no interest in. Rate limiting has always been inconsistently applied and support has no idea why. Inconsistent message log search results (which is really annoying when you're trying to help a user find their e-mail). Seemingly simplistic (and obvious) spam is often not blocked (e.g. porn e-mails with an abundance of special characters). Inconsistent blocking, same spam, different recipients, some blocked, some not, no known cause. I dislike that I have to call support because the box is doing something it shouldn't that I can't control. With that said, I have no complaints regarding the quality of their support reps. All in all, given the cost, I think the Barracuda offers a good value but, I'd like something that allows more control and more consistent performance. Thanks for the recommendations! -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? We use Symantec's Brightstor gateway for inbound and outbound mail. Easy to use and reliable. In the past I've used Barracuda. What don't you like about Barracuda? I found the unit I used very flexible. At my old shop we allowed users to have logons to create their own custom controls. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
Too rich for my budget at ~3000 users. Any less expensive alternatives come to mind? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
We use Symantec's Brightstor gateway for inbound and outbound mail. Easy to use and reliable. In the past I've used Barracuda. What don't you like about Barracuda? I found the unit I used very flexible. At my old shop we allowed users to have logons to create their own custom controls. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
Have you looked at the offering from Clearswift? Linux based appliances and I think also available as a soft-appliance? John -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: 11 January 2013 16:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? Too rich for my budget at ~3000 users. Any less expensive alternatives come to mind? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Anti-spam choices in general?
We love our Iron Ports ... On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
Ditto. Brandon From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anti-spam choices in general? We love our Iron Ports ... On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edumailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Anti-spam choices in general?
ninja On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Mike Benedict benedic...@palmer.eduwrote: Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
Same here From: Shanks, Brandon C [mailto:bran...@utdallas.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? Ditto. Brandon From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anti-spam choices in general? We love our Iron Ports ... On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edumailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
Proofpoint has a great solution and includes the ability to define custom rules. -Scott -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
I do like the Barracuda but... there's just a bunch of nagging things. A few that immediately come to mind are: Support says we have excessive filters (I don't think we do). False positives due to an unexplained Barracuda custom rule. They like to Barracuda whitelist sites we have no interest in. Rate limiting has always been inconsistently applied and support has no idea why. Inconsistent message log search results (which is really annoying when you're trying to help a user find their e-mail). Seemingly simplistic (and obvious) spam is often not blocked (e.g. porn e-mails with an abundance of special characters). Inconsistent blocking, same spam, different recipients, some blocked, some not, no known cause. I dislike that I have to call support because the box is doing something it shouldn't that I can't control. With that said, I have no complaints regarding the quality of their support reps. All in all, given the cost, I think the Barracuda offers a good value but, I'd like something that allows more control and more consistent performance. Thanks for the recommendations! -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? We use Symantec's Brightstor gateway for inbound and outbound mail. Easy to use and reliable. In the past I've used Barracuda. What don't you like about Barracuda? I found the unit I used very flexible. At my old shop we allowed users to have logons to create their own custom controls. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
We're using Spam Titan. It's worked pretty well for our small organization. (100 mailboxes) From: Mike Benedict [benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? Too rich for my budget at ~3000 users. Any less expensive alternatives come to mind? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Anti-spam choices in general?
I had the physical 300 model for 5 years or so and have had the virtual appliance version of that model for 2+ years and can't say I've experience much of what you mention below. Everyone's spam is going to be subjective though. I've always had it in global mode. Just mark a few hundred spam/ham msg's and let it go. Pay attention to it for a couple weeks to get thresholds set properly. Then I have a narrow threshold for quarantine I send to an account to check every few weeks for false positives. I've had false positives over the years but white listing those domains fixes that. And even then most of the false positives are because of word filters in the message. It maybe gets 10 min a week of my attention, but you have 10 times the users I do so.. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I do like the Barracuda but... there's just a bunch of nagging things. A few that immediately come to mind are: Support says we have excessive filters (I don't think we do). False positives due to an unexplained Barracuda custom rule. They like to Barracuda whitelist sites we have no interest in. Rate limiting has always been inconsistently applied and support has no idea why. Inconsistent message log search results (which is really annoying when you're trying to help a user find their e-mail). Seemingly simplistic (and obvious) spam is often not blocked (e.g. porn e-mails with an abundance of special characters). Inconsistent blocking, same spam, different recipients, some blocked, some not, no known cause. I dislike that I have to call support because the box is doing something it shouldn't that I can't control. With that said, I have no complaints regarding the quality of their support reps. All in all, given the cost, I think the Barracuda offers a good value but, I'd like something that allows more control and more consistent performance. Thanks for the recommendations! -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? We use Symantec's Brightstor gateway for inbound and outbound mail. Easy to use and reliable. In the past I've used Barracuda. What don't you like about Barracuda? I found the unit I used very flexible. At my old shop we allowed users to have logons to create their own custom controls. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-spam choices in general? I'm rather fond of Vircom's ModusGate solutions. -Original Message- From: Mike Benedict [mailto:benedic...@palmer.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-spam choices in general? Just wondering if there's anti-spam recommendations for either appliances or standalone server based software (we need it to front-end a mail router ahead of Exchange)? I currently use Barracuda and while I feel it represents a good value, I'm interested in a next-step solution that allows the customer a bit more flexibility to define custom rules. Thanks, Mike Benedict --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
