Re: Clustering Exchange Servers
Nope, I don't think so. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote: We are looking to purchase a new server and exchange 2010 with Windows Server 2008 R2. Currently we are running exchange 2003 on a Windows 2003 R2 Server. Can the two servers be clustered with the different OS and versions of exchange? _ *Cameron Cooper* *Network Administrator **| CompTIA A+ Certified*** Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke
RE: Clustering Exchange Servers
Would we be able to setup them as bridgehead servers? We're looking to have one running and then the other as a backup or to be able to cluster them. _ Cameron Cooper Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:47 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Clustering Exchange Servers Nope, I don't think so. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote: We are looking to purchase a new server and exchange 2010 with Windows Server 2008 R2. Currently we are running exchange 2003 on a Windows 2003 R2 Server. Can the two servers be clustered with the different OS and versions of exchange? _ Cameron Cooper Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke
RE: Clustering Exchange Servers
No. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange Servers Sensitivity: Confidential We are looking to purchase a new server and exchange 2010 with Windows Server 2008 R2. Currently we are running exchange 2003 on a Windows 2003 R2 Server. Can the two servers be clustered with the different OS and versions of exchange? _ Cameron Cooper Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
RE: Clustering Exchange Servers
No. Clustering requires the same OS and the same version of Exchange. If the old server is x64 capable, you could conceivably cluster them by re-installing the OS and Exchange; but if your 2003 box is more than 2 or 3 years old, you probably won't be able to. And you'll likely need to give it significant upgrades for it to meet minimum specs in Exchange 2010. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Servers Would we be able to setup them as bridgehead servers? We're looking to have one running and then the other as a backup or to be able to cluster them. _ Cameron Cooper Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:47 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Clustering Exchange Servers Nope, I don't think so. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com wrote: We are looking to purchase a new server and exchange 2010 with Windows Server 2008 R2. Currently we are running exchange 2003 on a Windows 2003 R2 Server. Can the two servers be clustered with the different OS and versions of exchange?
RE: Clustering Exchange Servers
The current exchange server is a 32bit machine. Thanks for the advice. _ Cameron Cooper Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Servers No. Clustering requires the same OS and the same version of Exchange. If the old server is x64 capable, you could conceivably cluster them by re-installing the OS and Exchange; but if your 2003 box is more than 2 or 3 years old, you probably won't be able to. And you'll likely need to give it significant upgrades for it to meet minimum specs in Exchange 2010. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Servers Would we be able to setup them as bridgehead servers? We're looking to have one running and then the other as a backup or to be able to cluster them. _ Cameron Cooper Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:47 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Clustering Exchange Servers Nope, I don't think so. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote: We are looking to purchase a new server and exchange 2010 with Windows Server 2008 R2. Currently we are running exchange 2003 on a Windows 2003 R2 Server. Can the two servers be clustered with the different OS and versions of exchange?
RE: Clustering Exchange
Sorry for the laxity in answering. We run 5 Marathons with roughly 800 mailboxes per. This is w/ 1 gig ram each w/ double 700 processors. Some more, some less. Two others server as Public Folder and relay servers. This is NT4 w/ XCH 5.5. SP3 plus a few post SP3 hotfixes. We also have Trend AV and Veritas Backups on these boxes and that is all. There is NO time between failovers as in reality, Marathon runs like a mirrored-duplex on steroids, if you will. There are also some techniques that have been developed that allows you to shut down 1/2 of the server while you run utilities or what have you on one copy of the IS while the absolute copy of the original is left intact. If what you are doing on the live array fails, you can over-write it over from the stored IS on the side that is shut down. If on the otherhand, whatever you are doing on the active side is successful, you can bring up the second side you were using as a backup of sorts, and let it over-write it. But during normal operation, the Marathon writes simintaneously to both at once. It sees itself as one server, but in reality, it is 2 CEs (I/O) and 2 IOPs (arrays). Our experiences have been good, but know this: XCH is a resource hog, Marathon is as well. You have to run powerfull boxes so that both are confortable or else you will get hammered. We are going over to NT2000/XCH2000 this year's end and will reduce our email servers down to 4, all Marathon. Any issue we have had with Marathons, and these have been minor, have been handled promptly by their support. And as you mentioned, it is expensive. My feeling, from 1000-1200 mailboxes max on a 2 gig ram machine, with 2 times 1 gig mhz processors, 36 gig raid 1 for log files and 90 gig raid 5 for IS, you'll be hard put to find a better configuration. Sorry I do not have personal info on NT2000 yet but, alas, budget constraints. David Kopec* Electronic Messaging Specialist Technology Services Solutions 500 Boylston Street * Boston, MA 02116-3741 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 4:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Funny you should mention Marathon Technologies, I went to a briefing this week about their kit, it looks very interesting if expensive. I have two main complaints about Windows Clustering one, the length of time it takes to dismount and remount the store between nodes is likely to cause time outs with Outlook so effecting the user. Secondly, MS clustering only protects the OS, if you get a corruption of the IS then clustering will not help you. In my experience a clustered solution can just introduce more problems and be more complex to administer then it gives in return. I would be interested to hear more about your experiences of Marathon, how many users do you have on the setup? How long does the failover take from original machine to new machine? Are their any gotchas with running this setup? Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: Kopec, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2002 19:06 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange We run www.marathontechnologies.com. Better than clustered. -Original Message- From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Didn't we just go over this, this morning?? Oh that was on the other list. There is no good cluster other then the single node. DO NOT built a cluster server period. Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee and are confidential. They may also be legally privileged. Copyright in them is reserved by Delphis Consulting PLC [Delphis] and they must not be disclosed to, or used by, anyone other than the addressee. If you have received this e-mail and any accompanying files in error, you may not copy
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message Hi, may I have the article no, if possible? thanks! -Original Message-From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 2002119 9:37To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange Be careful - Active/Active clustering with automatic fail over has known memory fragmentation issues that could cause a failure of your IS to start. Our Microsoft resident suggests manual fail over. -- Matt Lathrum General Dynamics Decision Systems When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:54 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange H How about being able to test a service pack without effecting users at any time day or night? Is that not an advantage? How about very high availability? How about redundant hardware (ya, I know it's redundant to the HA thing) I will agree that the 2000AS cluster is much better than 4.0EE, but 4.0EE works great in my book. -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware". For XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message Our cluster actually corrupted our Priv.edb TWICE -Original Message-From: Gerald BAI (NCS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:02 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange Hi, may I have the article no, if possible? thanks! -Original Message-From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 2002$BG/(J1$B7n(J19$BF|(J 9:37To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange Be careful - Active/Active clustering with automatic fail over has known memory fragmentation issues that could cause a failure of your IS to start. Our Microsoft resident suggests manual fail over. -- Matt Lathrum General Dynamics Decision Systems When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:54 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange H How about being able to test a service pack without effecting users at any time day or night? Is that not an advantage? How about very high availability? How about redundant hardware (ya, I know it's redundant to the HA thing) I will agree that the 2000AS cluster is much better than 4.0EE, but 4.0EE works great in my book. -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware". For XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message After looking on Microsofts web site for a while I couldnt find a Q article. All I know is that we were told that by Microsoft. Perhaps you could check with them -- Matt Lathrum General Dynamics Decision Systems When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. -Original Message- From: Gerald BAI (NCS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 2:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Hi, may I have the article no, if possible? thanks! -Original Message- From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 2002119 9:37 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Be careful - Active/Active clustering with automatic fail over has known memory fragmentation issues that could cause a failure of your IS to start. Our Microsoft resident suggests manual fail over. -- Matt Lathrum General Dynamics Decision Systems When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange H How about being able to test a service pack without effecting users at any time day or night? Is that not an advantage? How about very high availability? How about redundant hardware (ya, I know it's redundant to the HA thing) I will agree that the 2000AS cluster is much better than 4.0EE, but 4.0EE works great in my book. -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly cluster aware. For XCHG2000 I say DAH - IF you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Funny you should mention Marathon Technologies, I went to a briefing this week about their kit, it looks very interesting if expensive. I have two main complaints about Windows Clustering one, the length of time it takes to dismount and remount the store between nodes is likely to cause time outs with Outlook so effecting the user. Secondly, MS clustering only protects the OS, if you get a corruption of the IS then clustering will not help you. In my experience a clustered solution can just introduce more problems and be more complex to administer then it gives in return. I would be interested to hear more about your experiences of Marathon, how many users do you have on the setup? How long does the failover take from original machine to new machine? Are their any gotchas with running this setup? Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: Kopec, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2002 19:06 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange We run www.marathontechnologies.com. Better than clustered. -Original Message- From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Didn't we just go over this, this morning?? Oh that was on the other list. There is no good cluster other then the single node. DO NOT built a cluster server period. Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee and are confidential. They may also be legally privileged. Copyright in them is reserved by Delphis Consulting PLC [Delphis] and they must not be disclosed to, or used by, anyone other than the addressee. If you have received this e-mail and any accompanying files in error, you may not copy, publish or use them in any way and you should delete them from your system and notify us immediately. E-mails are not secure. Delphis does not accept responsibility for changes to e-mails that occur after they have been sent. Any opinions expressed in this e-mail may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of Delphis. This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee and are confidential. They may also be legally privileged. Copyright in them is reserved by Delphis Consulting PLC [Delphis] and they must not be disclosed to, or used by, anyone other than the addressee. If you have received this e-mail and any accompanying files in error, you may not copy, publish or use them in any way and you should delete them from your system and notify us immediately. E-mails are not secure. Delphis does not accept responsibility for changes to e-mails that occur after they have been sent. Any opinions expressed in this e-mail may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of Delphis. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Come and visit me...we we're the first .edu (maybe the first place period according to MS) in the US to cluster Exchange, 5.5 on NT 4.0 EE I have had *very* little problem with this setup. Dell SDS array, we're running a spooler on the quorum, file share(s) one one vserver and Exchange on the other. Sweetsweetsweet...so sweet, infact, that I just recently installed our *NEW* fiber attached cluster with 720Gb of Exchange designated storage. And yes, it is a SAN as well and it will fit nicely into our overall SAN implementation in the future. The advantages to clustering are many, the disadvantages are few, and we're talking about 4 years of experience with this specific product. If you want to see a real kick-ass cluster...take a look at what my buds up at Cornell are doing with Dell and clustering http://www.tc.cornell.edu/AC3/Memberships/ //clusterboy -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 3:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Yell - Hey ClusterBoy! and maybe he'll help. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message Huh? Can you elaborate? -Original Message-From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange However, the level of "cluster-aware" is very dependant on the person that is setting it up. I can think of some that I would not want setting up any types of clusters. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware". For XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message I think he means not all of us have the wealth of experience or knowledge of clusters that someone with the monicker 'clusterboy' might have. -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:50 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange Huh? Can you elaborate? -Original Message-From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange However, the level of "cluster-aware" is very dependant on the person that is setting it up. I can think of some that I would not want setting up any types of clusters. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware". For XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message H How about being able to test a service pack without effecting users at any time day or night? Is that not an advantage? How about very high availability? How about redundant hardware (ya, I know it's redundant to the HA thing) I will agree that the 2000AS cluster is much better than 4.0EE, but 4.0EE works great in my book. -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware". For XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message Let's just say that I am not in any way referring to the ability of the product (Exchange, or whatever else) to actually BE clustered, or the fact that it is cluster-aware, rather, I am referring to the actual ability of some to set up the cluster. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Huh? Can you elaborate? -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange However, the level of cluster-aware is very dependant on the person that is setting it up. I can think of some that I would not want setting up any types of clusters. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly cluster aware. For XCHG2000 I say DAH - IF you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
You can do it with Dell for under $15K -Original Message- From: Darrin J. Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange If you have a lot of money there are several solutions. http://www.directplus.compaq.com/dstore/default.asp?page=ctoBasesProduc tLineId=431Family_Id=650 http://www.win2000mag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=3670 http://www.nsisoftware.com/main/pages/Products/DTspec.html No I'm not a sales person. Darrin Carter CNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCA Senior Systems Engineer Elegrity, Inc. 415.821.0900 (main) 415.826.7758 (fax) 415.726.0413 (direct) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.elegrity.com -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message I don't feel wealthy. %^) Who ever thought up that silly name anyway? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:50 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I think he means not all of us have the wealth of experience or knowledge of clusters that someone with the monicker 'clusterboy' might have. -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:50 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange Huh? Can you elaborate? -Original Message-From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange However, the level of "cluster-aware" is very dependant on the person that is setting it up. I can think of some that I would not want setting up any types of clusters. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware". For XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
PBBBTTT! -Original Message- From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Didn't we just go over this, this morning?? Oh that was on the other list. There is no good cluster other then the single node. DO NOT built a cluster server period. Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message
I
thought it was clusterf@%*
-Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:09
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering
Exchange
WHOA
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics,
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January
18, 2002 2:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject:
RE: Clustering Exchange
I
did change it to ClusterKing
-Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002
11:00 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Clustering Exchange
I don't feel wealthy.
%^)
Who ever thought up that silly name anyway?
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics,
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday,
January 18, 2002 1:50 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange
I think he means not all of us have the wealth of experience or
knowledge of clusters that someone with the monicker 'clusterboy' might
have.
-Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002
10:50 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Clustering Exchange
Huh?
Can you elaborate?
-Original Message-From: Benjamin
Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,
January 17, 2002 12:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange
However, the
level of "cluster-aware" is very dependant on the person that is setting
it up. I can think of some that I would not want setting up
any types of clusters.
Ben
Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems
Administrator
Peregrine
Systems
-Original
Message-From: Rick
Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002
12:52 PMTo:
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering
Exchange
For
5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing
it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware".
For
XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known
HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have
the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel
connectivity is SWEET.
XCHG2000 is cluster aware.
Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware
however.. it ain't cheap.
-Rick -Original Message-
From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Clustering
Exchange
My
immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new
Exchange Servers that we should have them
clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know
how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject
to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What
are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated.
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RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message That's my cousin.we don't talk to that part of the family anymore -Original Message-From: Scot Parsons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I thought it was clusterf@%* -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:09 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange WHOA -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I did change it to ClusterKing -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:00 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I don't feel wealthy. %^) Who ever thought up that silly name anyway? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:50 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I think he means not all of us have the wealth of experience or knowledge of clusters that someone with the monicker 'clusterboy' might have. -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:50 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange Huh? Can you elaborate? -Original Message-From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange However, the level of "cluster-aware" is very dependant on the person that is setting it up. I can think of some that I would not want setting up any types of clusters. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware". For XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message
Sung to the tune of Mighty Mouse
Mr. Trouble never
hangs around
When he hears this mighty
sound
"Here I come to save
Exchange
That means that Clusterboy is on his
way
Yes sir when there is anode to right
Clusterboy will join the fight
On the priv or on the pub
He'll make that Cluster of Exchange really hummm (ya...try to find
something that rhymes with pub)
//CB
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics,
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January
18, 2002 2:09 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Clustering Exchange
Sounds like some cheesy franchise operation, doesn't it? At least
clusterboy could be a superhero in blue tights with a giant "C" on his
chest.
KEVIN MILLER
pictures?
/KEVIN MILLER
-Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:09
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering
Exchange
WHOA
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics,
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January
18, 2002 2:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject:
RE: Clustering Exchange
I
did change it to ClusterKing
-Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002
11:00 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Clustering Exchange
I don't feel wealthy.
%^)
Who ever thought up that silly name anyway?
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics,
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday,
January 18, 2002 1:50 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange
I think he means not all of us have the wealth of experience or
knowledge of clusters that someone with the monicker 'clusterboy' might
have.
-Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002
10:50 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Clustering Exchange
Huh?
Can you elaborate?
-Original Message-From: Benjamin
Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,
January 17, 2002 12:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange
However, the
level of "cluster-aware" is very dependant on the person that is setting
it up. I can think of some that I would not want setting up
any types of clusters.
Ben
Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems
Administrator
Peregrine
Systems
-Original
Message-From: Rick
Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002
12:52 PMTo:
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering
Exchange
For
5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing
it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware".
For
XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known
HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have
the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel
connectivity is SWEET.
XCHG2000 is cluster aware.
Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware
however.. it ain't cheap.
-Rick -Original Message-
From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Clustering
Exchange
My
immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new
Exchange Servers that we should have them
clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know
how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject
to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What
are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated.
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RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message WHOA -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I did change it to ClusterKing -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:00 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I don't feel wealthy. %^) Who ever thought up that silly name anyway? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:50 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I think he means not all of us have the wealth of experience or knowledge of clusters that someone with the monicker 'clusterboy' might have. -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:50 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange Huh? Can you elaborate? -Original Message-From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange However, the level of "cluster-aware" is very dependant on the person that is setting it up. I can think of some that I would not want setting up any types of clusters. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware". For XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message Sounds like some cheesy franchise operation, doesn't it? At least clusterboy could be a superhero in blue tights with a giant "C" on his chest. KEVIN MILLER pictures? /KEVIN MILLER -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:09 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange WHOA -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I did change it to ClusterKing -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:00 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I don't feel wealthy. %^) Who ever thought up that silly name anyway? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:50 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I think he means not all of us have the wealth of experience or knowledge of clusters that someone with the monicker 'clusterboy' might have. -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:50 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange Huh? Can you elaborate? -Original Message-From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange However, the level of "cluster-aware" is very dependant on the person that is setting it up. I can think of some that I would not want setting up any types of clusters. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware". For XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message I did change it to ClusterKing -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:00 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I don't feel wealthy. %^) Who ever thought up that silly name anyway? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:50 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange I think he means not all of us have the wealth of experience or knowledge of clusters that someone with the monicker 'clusterboy' might have. -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:50 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange Huh? Can you elaborate? -Original Message-From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange However, the level of "cluster-aware" is very dependant on the person that is setting it up. I can think of some that I would not want setting up any types of clusters. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly "cluster aware". For XCHG2000 I say DAH - "IF" you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: Message Be careful Active/Active clustering with automatic fail over has known memory fragmentation issues that could cause a failure of your IS to start. Our Microsoft resident suggests manual fail over. -- Matt Lathrum General Dynamics Decision Systems When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange H How about being able to test a service pack without effecting users at any time day or night? Is that not an advantage? How about very high availability? How about redundant hardware (ya, I know it's redundant to the HA thing) I will agree that the 2000AS cluster is much better than 4.0EE, but 4.0EE works great in my book. -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly cluster aware. For XCHG2000 I say DAH - IF you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Didnt we just go over this, this morning?? Oh that was on the other list. There is no good cluster other then the single node. DO NOT built a cluster server period. Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
If you have a lot of money there are several solutions. http://www.directplus.compaq.com/dstore/default.asp?page=ctoBasesProduc tLineId=431Family_Id=650 http://www.win2000mag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=3670 http://www.nsisoftware.com/main/pages/Products/DTspec.html No I'm not a sales person. Darrin Carter CNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCA Senior Systems Engineer Elegrity, Inc. 415.821.0900 (main) 415.826.7758 (fax) 415.726.0413 (direct) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.elegrity.com -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly cluster aware. For XCHG2000 I say DAH - IF you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
I disagree. You can have fantastic clusters with up to thirty two machines that will give you no trouble at all. Of course, you have to be running OpenVMS, and so far, Exchange doesn't run under that, but hey... -Original Message- From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2002 17:37 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Didn't we just go over this, this morning?? Oh that was on the other list. There is no good cluster other then the single node. DO NOT built a cluster server period. Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: RE: Clustering Exchange However, the level of "cluster-aware" is very dependant on the person that is setting it up. I can think of some that I would not want setting up any types of clusters. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange For 5.5 I say NIYET - Is it doable but you gain no real advantages in doing it, as 5.5 isn't truly cluster aware. For XCHG2000 I say DAH - IF you have a solid cluster solution with known HCL Server hardware. I recommend Compaq's cluster solutions as I have the most/best experiences with it overall and the FIBRE channel connectivity is SWEET. XCHG2000 is cluster aware. Plan to spend lotsomoney on your hardware however.. it ain't cheap. -Rick -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
An OWA web farm? -Original Message- From: Martin Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange I disagree. You can have fantastic clusters with up to thirty two machines that will give you no trouble at all. Of course, you have to be running OpenVMS, and so far, Exchange doesn't run under that, but hey... -Original Message- From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2002 17:37 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Didn't we just go over this, this morning?? Oh that was on the other list. There is no good cluster other then the single node. DO NOT built a cluster server period. Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
I have installed the NSI Double-Take solution for exchange. It's a really slick package as long as you set it up properly. We have failed over the exchange services twice with very successful results. This was on an NT 4.0 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP3 environment. The target server is the File and Print server. You will lose a little response time while failed over but it's only temporary while you repair the original exchange server. This product works with most applications. Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/17/02 09:49AM If you have a lot of money there are several solutions. http://www.directplus.compaq.com/dstore/default.asp?page=ctoBasesProduc tLineId=431Family_Id=650 http://www.win2000mag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=3670 http://www.nsisoftware.com/main/pages/Products/DTspec.html No I'm not a sales person. Darrin Carter CNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCA Senior Systems Engineer Elegrity, Inc. 415.821.0900 (main) 415.826.7758 (fax) 415.726.0413 (direct) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.elegrity.com -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Using F5 load balancers -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange An OWA web farm? -Original Message- From: Martin Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange I disagree. You can have fantastic clusters with up to thirty two machines that will give you no trouble at all. Of course, you have to be running OpenVMS, and so far, Exchange doesn't run under that, but hey... -Original Message- From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2002 17:37 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Didn't we just go over this, this morning?? Oh that was on the other list. There is no good cluster other then the single node. DO NOT built a cluster server period. Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
We run www.marathontechnologies.com. Better than clustered. -Original Message- From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange Didn't we just go over this, this morning?? Oh that was on the other list. There is no good cluster other then the single node. DO NOT built a cluster server period. Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Title: RE: Clustering Exchange I currenlty have 9 exchange clusters. I am using Ms Clustering.. It works.. not to bad.. When you failover you do have a little response time isue but its a few sec. You have to de side on what type of clustering you want.. Active / passive Active / Active I am using Active / Passive... Active / Active does cost a lot but better repsonse time and reliablily. I have files/home dir and over 1000 printers on the cluster.. It took around 45 min to fail them over. NOTE: I diddn't set these up.. Also my hardware is some what old. I have had some cluster corruption but as far as aexchange it been fine.. It mostly comes down to how much do they want to spend compared to how they feel reliablity. Shawn -Original Message- From: Todd Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange I have installed the NSI Double-Take solution for exchange. It's a really slick package as long as you set it up properly. We have failed over the exchange services twice with very successful results. This was on an NT 4.0 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP3 environment. The target server is the File and Print server. You will lose a little response time while failed over but it's only temporary while you repair the original exchange server. This product works with most applications. Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/17/02 09:49AM If you have a lot of money there are several solutions. http://www.directplus.compaq.com/dstore/default.asp?page=ctoBases tLineId=431Family_Id=650 http://www.win2000mag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=3670 http://www.nsisoftware.com/main/pages/Products/DTspec.html No I'm not a sales person. Darrin Carter CNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCA Senior Systems Engineer Elegrity, Inc. 415.821.0900 (main) 415.826.7758 (fax) 415.726.0413 (direct) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.elegrity.com -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
Yell - Hey ClusterBoy! and maybe he'll help. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Clustering Exchange My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get new Exchange Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never clustered servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard is it to do, and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
