RE: Email texting to ATT cell phones

2010-08-13 Thread Louis, Joe
Thanks Michael. I'll look into that.
-Joe

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Email texting to ATT cell phones

If it was mission critical, an SMS gateway. SMTP is great, but we know it has 
its flaws. I swear I think Verizon and ATT do things to disrupt misuse of 
thier services.  I had a plethora of horrible experiences in the Boston area 
with an email-to-SMS system.

Direct SMS and paging services are more reliable in my experience.

--
ME2

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
What would you use?

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:56, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have found email-to-sms to be infrequently, yet sporadically unreliable
 across all carriers.  I would not rely on it for anything critical.

 --
 ME2


 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Louis, Joe 
 jlo...@guardianalarm.commailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com
 wrote:

 Anyone having problems sending an email to an ATT cell phone as an SMS
 (via email address 
 xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.netmailto:xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.net)?  All of a 
 sudden, our
 messages are not reaching our cell phones.  This just affects our ATT
 phones.

 Some customer service person at ATT told our people that they are
 transitioning people away from email messages to cell phones as text. We pay
 for an SMS package. I'm clueless as to why they would care about the source
 when we pay for the SMS volume.

 Anyone else experiencing this? How are you generating SMS messages to
 non-mobile-email-enable devices? We've always preached that SMS is not a
 guaranteed service/delivery so time sensitive needs shouldn't be pushed
 there, but we're going to have to come up with another deployment if ATT
 sticks to their guns.

 -Joe Louis







RE: Email texting to ATT cell phones

2010-08-12 Thread Bob Fronk
There is a widespread ATT outage in the Kentucky area with over 150 sites down. 
 There is also a large Windstream outage in Georgia and Kentucky.  I don't know 
if they are related.

However, both are causing me a great deal of headache today.

--
BF

From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email texting to ATT cell phones

Anyone having problems sending an email to an ATT cell phone as an SMS (via 
email address xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.netmailto:xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.net)?  
All of a sudden, our messages are not reaching our cell phones.  This just 
affects our ATT phones.

Some customer service person at ATT told our people that they are 
transitioning people away from email messages to cell phones as text. We pay 
for an SMS package. I'm clueless as to why they would care about the source 
when we pay for the SMS volume.

Anyone else experiencing this? How are you generating SMS messages to 
non-mobile-email-enable devices? We've always preached that SMS is not a 
guaranteed service/delivery so time sensitive needs shouldn't be pushed there, 
but we're going to have to come up with another deployment if ATT sticks to 
their guns.

-Joe Louis




RE: Email texting to ATT cell phones

2010-08-12 Thread Louis, Joe
Thanks Doug. Ya, I just included the dashes for formatting in the message to 
the list. We don't use them when sending. We also use txt.att.net instead of 
what I typed.

I've been checking all the usual places for outage notices and can't find 
anything. About a year ago, ATT was trying to fix their congestion problems 
and moved the email addresses when tons of people went out and got iPhones.

Google just pointed me to an FAQ on their page: 
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/messaging/faq.jsp#email

Q. Can I send and receive email messages using my wireless phone?

A. All wireless phones are set up to send and receive email messages by using 
the following address: yournum...@txt.att.net. You can exchange short emails 
with any email address worldwide.
I'm thinking (hoping) that there is an outage/delay that just hasn't been 
realized yet.


From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email texting to ATT cell phones

I tried sending to my phone (Palm Trio 650) using the format you showed below, 
and this is what got.
I replaced my number with XXXs



I did try again leaving out the - between the numbers, No bounce, but nothing 
on my phone either.





This is the mail delivery agent at messagelabs.com.

I was not able to deliver your message to the following addresses.



707-xxx-x...@text.att.netmailto:707-xxx-x...@text.att.net:

209.183.32.63 failed after I sent the message.

Remote host said: 550 Invalid recipient: 
707-xxx-x...@cingularme.commailto:707-xxx-x...@cingularme.com





--- Below this line is a copy of the message.



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X-VirusChecked: Checked

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Thank You
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From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email texting to ATT cell phones

Anyone having problems sending an email to an ATT cell phone as an SMS (via 
email address xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.netmailto:xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.net)?  
All of a sudden, our messages are not reaching our cell phones.  This just 
affects our ATT phones.

Some customer service person at ATT told our people that they are 
transitioning people away from email messages to cell phones as text. We pay 
for an SMS package. I'm clueless as to why they would care about the source 
when we pay for the SMS volume.

Anyone else experiencing this? How are you generating SMS messages to 
non-mobile-email-enable devices? We've always preached that SMS is not a 
guaranteed service/delivery so time sensitive needs shouldn't be pushed there, 
but we're going to have to come up with another deployment if ATT sticks to 
their guns.

-Joe Louis


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Re: Email texting to ATT cell phones

2010-08-12 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I have found email-to-sms to be infrequently, yet sporadically unreliable
across all carriers.  I would not rely on it for anything critical.

--
ME2


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.comwrote:

  Anyone having problems sending an email to an ATT cell phone as an SMS
 (via email address xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.net)?  All of a sudden, our
 messages are not reaching our cell phones.  This just affects our ATT
 phones.

 Some customer service person at ATT told our people that they are
 transitioning people away from email messages to cell phones as text. We pay
 for an SMS package. I’m clueless as to why they would care about the source
 when we pay for the SMS volume.

 Anyone else experiencing this? How are you generating SMS messages to
 non-mobile-email-enable devices? We’ve always preached that SMS is not a
 guaranteed service/delivery so time sensitive needs shouldn’t be pushed
 there, but we’re going to have to come up with another deployment if ATT
 sticks to their guns.

 -Joe Louis





Re: Email texting to ATT cell phones

2010-08-12 Thread Kurt Buff
What would you use?

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:56, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have found email-to-sms to be infrequently, yet sporadically unreliable
 across all carriers.  I would not rely on it for anything critical.

 --
 ME2


 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com
 wrote:

 Anyone having problems sending an email to an ATT cell phone as an SMS
 (via email address xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.net)?  All of a sudden, our
 messages are not reaching our cell phones.  This just affects our ATT
 phones.

 Some customer service person at ATT told our people that they are
 transitioning people away from email messages to cell phones as text. We pay
 for an SMS package. I’m clueless as to why they would care about the source
 when we pay for the SMS volume.

 Anyone else experiencing this? How are you generating SMS messages to
 non-mobile-email-enable devices? We’ve always preached that SMS is not a
 guaranteed service/delivery so time sensitive needs shouldn’t be pushed
 there, but we’re going to have to come up with another deployment if ATT
 sticks to their guns.

 -Joe Louis







Re: Email texting to ATT cell phones

2010-08-12 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
If it was mission critical, an SMS gateway. SMTP is great, but we know it
has its flaws. I swear I think Verizon and ATT do things to disrupt
misuse of thier services.  I had a plethora of horrible experiences in the
Boston area with an email-to-SMS system.

Direct SMS and paging services are more reliable in my experience.

--
ME2


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 What would you use?

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:56, Micheal Espinola Jr
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have found email-to-sms to be infrequently, yet sporadically unreliable
  across all carriers.  I would not rely on it for anything critical.
 
  --
  ME2
 
 
  On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com
  wrote:
 
  Anyone having problems sending an email to an ATT cell phone as an SMS
  (via email address xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.net)?  All of a sudden, our
  messages are not reaching our cell phones.  This just affects our ATT
  phones.
 
  Some customer service person at ATT told our people that they are
  transitioning people away from email messages to cell phones as text. We
 pay
  for an SMS package. I’m clueless as to why they would care about the
 source
  when we pay for the SMS volume.
 
  Anyone else experiencing this? How are you generating SMS messages to
  non-mobile-email-enable devices? We’ve always preached that SMS is not a
  guaranteed service/delivery so time sensitive needs shouldn’t be pushed
  there, but we’re going to have to come up with another deployment if
 ATT
  sticks to their guns.
 
  -Joe Louis
 
 
 





RE: Email texting to ATT cell phones (UNCLASSIFIED)

2010-08-12 Thread Kent, Larry CTR US USA
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO

They have phones in Kentucky?  J

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email texting to ATT cell phones

 

There is a widespread ATT outage in the Kentucky area with over 150
sites down.  There is also a large Windstream outage in Georgia and
Kentucky.  I don't know if they are related.

 

However, both are causing me a great deal of headache today.

 

--

BF

 

From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email texting to ATT cell phones

 

Anyone having problems sending an email to an ATT cell phone as an SMS
(via email address xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.net)?  All of a sudden, our
messages are not reaching our cell phones.  This just affects our ATT
phones. 

 

Some customer service person at ATT told our people that they are
transitioning people away from email messages to cell phones as text. We
pay for an SMS package. I'm clueless as to why they would care about the
source when we pay for the SMS volume. 

 

Anyone else experiencing this? How are you generating SMS messages to
non-mobile-email-enable devices? We've always preached that SMS is not a
guaranteed service/delivery so time sensitive needs shouldn't be pushed
there, but we're going to have to come up with another deployment if
ATT sticks to their guns. 

 

-Joe Louis

 

 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO



RE: Email texting to ATT cell phones (UNCLASSIFIED)

2010-08-12 Thread Steve Hart
Not anymore.

Steve Hart
Network Administrator
503.491.4343 -Direct | 503.492.8160 - Fax

From: Kent, Larry CTR US USA [mailto:larry.k...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email texting to ATT cell phones (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO
They have phones in Kentucky?  :)

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email texting to ATT cell phones

There is a widespread ATT outage in the Kentucky area with over 150 sites down. 
 There is also a large Windstream outage in Georgia and Kentucky.  I don't know 
if they are related.

However, both are causing me a great deal of headache today.

--
BF

From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email texting to ATT cell phones

Anyone having problems sending an email to an ATT cell phone as an SMS (via 
email address 
xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.netblockedmailto:xxx-xxx-x...@text.att.net)?  All of a 
sudden, our messages are not reaching our cell phones.  This just affects our 
ATT phones.

Some customer service person at ATT told our people that they are 
transitioning people away from email messages to cell phones as text. We pay 
for an SMS package. I'm clueless as to why they would care about the source 
when we pay for the SMS volume.

Anyone else experiencing this? How are you generating SMS messages to 
non-mobile-email-enable devices? We've always preached that SMS is not a 
guaranteed service/delivery so time sensitive needs shouldn't be pushed there, 
but we're going to have to come up with another deployment if ATT sticks to 
their guns.

-Joe Louis


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO