RE: Esutil/Isinteg
I don't think it's necessary to use them at least not on a weekly basis but I am having a hard time convincing others especially when they say Microsoft support told them to. -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Why do you want to use those tools? Any particular reason? -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Sorry I must have missed that message, guess I'll be using scripts. I was hoping for more feedback on not using Eseutil and Isinteg regularly. Anyone have any good references on these topics? Julie -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Siegfried Weber posted earlier today with an example of coding a store dismount: Right to the point and as it turns out I wrote a little demo script back in Sept 2001 which shows how to mount/dismount stores with CDOEXM which is avail at http://www.cdolive.net/download/cdoutilities.zip; Siegfried / As with 5.5, running those utilities do little to nothing to benefit a healthy exchange server installation. William -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Esutil/Isinteg Testing Win2K SP2 /E2K SP2. Routinely ran the Eseutil /d and Isinteg -fix -alltests on my Exchange 5.5 server. (long story) Does anyone have suggestions or comments about doing the same with Exchange 2000, from research I have done this doesn't appear to be a good idea but I need more to go on. Also is there a command to dismount a store from the command line? Thanks Julie Lienemann Information Services Colorado School of Mines [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 273-3877 (303) 324-2881 Cell List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
The archives of this list, the Swynk list, and the Exchange 2000 list are literally filled with hundreds of posts addressing this issue. Trust me when I say this, but the general consensus of opinion within the Exchange community is that you really don't need to run the utilities on a regular basis. Neil -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 19 April 2002 14:24 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Esutil/Isinteg Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg I don't think it's necessary to use them at least not on a weekly basis but I am having a hard time convincing others especially when they say Microsoft support told them to. -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Why do you want to use those tools? Any particular reason? -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Sorry I must have missed that message, guess I'll be using scripts. I was hoping for more feedback on not using Eseutil and Isinteg regularly. Anyone have any good references on these topics? Julie -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Siegfried Weber posted earlier today with an example of coding a store dismount: Right to the point and as it turns out I wrote a little demo script back in Sept 2001 which shows how to mount/dismount stores with CDOEXM which is avail at http://www.cdolive.net/download/cdoutilities.zip; Siegfried / As with 5.5, running those utilities do little to nothing to benefit a healthy exchange server installation. William -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Esutil/Isinteg Testing Win2K SP2 /E2K SP2. Routinely ran the Eseutil /d and Isinteg -fix -alltests on my Exchange 5.5 server. (long story) Does anyone have suggestions or comments about doing the same with Exchange 2000, from research I have done this doesn't appear to be a good idea but I need more to go on. Also is there a command to dismount a store from the command line? Thanks Julie Lienemann Information Services Colorado School of Mines [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 273-3877 (303) 324-2881 Cell List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
MS Support did not tell anyone to run this weekly. I'd like to know the name of that support person... Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg I don't think it's necessary to use them at least not on a weekly basis but I am having a hard time convincing others especially when they say Microsoft support told them to. -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Why do you want to use those tools? Any particular reason? -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Sorry I must have missed that message, guess I'll be using scripts. I was hoping for more feedback on not using Eseutil and Isinteg regularly. Anyone have any good references on these topics? Julie -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Siegfried Weber posted earlier today with an example of coding a store dismount: Right to the point and as it turns out I wrote a little demo script back in Sept 2001 which shows how to mount/dismount stores with CDOEXM which is avail at http://www.cdolive.net/download/cdoutilities.zip; Siegfried / As with 5.5, running those utilities do little to nothing to benefit a healthy exchange server installation. William -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Esutil/Isinteg Testing Win2K SP2 /E2K SP2. Routinely ran the Eseutil /d and Isinteg -fix -alltests on my Exchange 5.5 server. (long story) Does anyone have suggestions or comments about doing the same with Exchange 2000, from research I have done this doesn't appear to be a good idea but I need more to go on. Also is there a command to dismount a store from the command line? Thanks Julie Lienemann Information Services Colorado School of Mines [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 273-3877 (303) 324-2881 Cell List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Before my time but they swear up and down that they did... Before I came here I never ran these utility's unless I had a problem, here we run them weekly. I am trying to convince them it's not needed. I did look at the archives but obviously didn't dig through them enough most of the messages I read about these utilities were in reference to using them when you had problems. I will keep looking -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg MS Support did not tell anyone to run this weekly. I'd like to know the name of that support person... Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg I don't think it's necessary to use them at least not on a weekly basis but I am having a hard time convincing others especially when they say Microsoft support told them to. -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Why do you want to use those tools? Any particular reason? -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Sorry I must have missed that message, guess I'll be using scripts. I was hoping for more feedback on not using Eseutil and Isinteg regularly. Anyone have any good references on these topics? Julie -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Siegfried Weber posted earlier today with an example of coding a store dismount: Right to the point and as it turns out I wrote a little demo script back in Sept 2001 which shows how to mount/dismount stores with CDOEXM which is avail at http://www.cdolive.net/download/cdoutilities.zip; Siegfried / As with 5.5, running those utilities do little to nothing to benefit a healthy exchange server installation. William -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Esutil/Isinteg Testing Win2K SP2 /E2K SP2. Routinely ran the Eseutil /d and Isinteg -fix -alltests on my Exchange 5.5 server. (long story) Does anyone have suggestions or comments about doing the same with Exchange 2000, from research I have done this doesn't appear to be a good idea but I need more to go on. Also is there a command to dismount a store from the command line? Thanks Julie Lienemann Information Services Colorado School of Mines [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 273-3877 (303) 324-2881 Cell List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Search the archives, this is discussed just about weekly. If you find that you aren't finding it in the archives, I'm sure there are those of us who have archived copies of this list that will resend a copy of the why's and why not's for eseutil and isinteg. Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Before my time but they swear up and down that they did... Before I came here I never ran these utility's unless I had a problem, here we run them weekly. I am trying to convince them it's not needed. I did look at the archives but obviously didn't dig through them enough most of the messages I read about these utilities were in reference to using them when you had problems. I will keep looking -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg MS Support did not tell anyone to run this weekly. I'd like to know the name of that support person... Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg I don't think it's necessary to use them at least not on a weekly basis but I am having a hard time convincing others especially when they say Microsoft support told them to. -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Why do you want to use those tools? Any particular reason? -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Sorry I must have missed that message, guess I'll be using scripts. I was hoping for more feedback on not using Eseutil and Isinteg regularly. Anyone have any good references on these topics? Julie -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Siegfried Weber posted earlier today with an example of coding a store dismount: Right to the point and as it turns out I wrote a little demo script back in Sept 2001 which shows how to mount/dismount stores with CDOEXM which is avail at http://www.cdolive.net/download/cdoutilities.zip; Siegfried / As with 5.5, running those utilities do little to nothing to benefit a healthy exchange server installation. William -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Esutil/Isinteg Testing Win2K SP2 /E2K SP2. Routinely ran the Eseutil /d and Isinteg -fix -alltests on my Exchange 5.5 server. (long story) Does anyone have suggestions or comments about doing the same with Exchange 2000, from research I have done this doesn't appear to be a good idea but I need more to go on. Also is there a command to dismount a store from the command line? Thanks Julie Lienemann Information Services Colorado School of Mines [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 273-3877 (303) 324-2881 Cell List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
which I know is the limit of the private info store. What do I need to do to reclaim this disk space? Many thanks Doug For those that do not know, Scott Scholl is a Windows2000/NTServer MVP and co-author of Exchange2000 Server:the Complete Reference. William -Original Message- From: Scott Schnoll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Eseutil Well, to be more specific Exchange's online defragmentation is great for defragmenting and reclaiming white space; however, this process does not reduce the size of the database file. So, if you move a large amount of data from your databases (e.g., you purge a whole lot of messages; you move a whole lot of mailboxes; etc.) then performing an offline defragmentation using ESEUTIL is completely acceptable maintenance that does not need the hand-holding or blessing of PSS to perform. If you aren't move large amounts of data out of your databases, and you aren't running into any storage limitations (e.g., because you are running Standard or because you're running out of disk space), then running ESEUTIL won't provide much, if any, benefits. So, whether or not this is a regular maintenance tool really depends on your environment. For the large majority of Exchange orgs, it probably won't be a regular maintenance tool. My $.02. -- Regards, Scott Schnoll - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: RE: Eseutil Only use it if you are directed to by PSS, or if you are using the standard edition of Exchange 5.5 and are running into the 16GB limit. Exchange handles online defrag quite well so there should be no need to run and offline defrag unless you are running into the 16GB limit on Standard Edition. -Original Message- From: Dimitri Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil So what is the best practice with defragmentation? MS says that ESEUITL is not considered a tool for regular maintenance and should only be used in case of emergency after contacting Microsoft Technical Support. On the other hand, there're people here that use it on monthly basis! So, to use or not to use? -Original Message- From: Kopec, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil This statement is NOT entirely accurate. Try the following syntax and you can direct wherever you want including mapped drives. For example, C:\exchsrver/bineseutil /d /ispriv /tf:\tempedb.edb. Notice, there is no space between the /t and the drive you wish to defrag on. -Original Message- From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 9:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil I'm not familiar with E2K, but on 5.5 I regularly (read monthly) run eseutil. I run it because that is the ONLY way to regain space in the Exchange DB that has been freed up by messages being deleted etc. If I did not do this on a regular basis I would hit the Exchange 5.5 IS limit. I would guess that it would be /t f:/tempedb.edb or what ever you plan to use for the defrag. It may not work, it doesn't work in 5.5 when you try to redirect the temp database, it must run on the same physical drive that it is stored. Good luck. Sherry -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Why do you need to defrag the IS? Has MS told you to do this? eseutil is a tool that if you are not familiar with, you shouldn't be using. Now tell us why you want to do it. -Original Message- From: Irfan GM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Eseutil Hi How do I use the /t switch with eseutil , i need to defrag the database and there is not enogh storage space in C: , where exchange 2000 is loaded. Thanks Irfan Mal Sasalu Information Systems Facilities Phone: (403) 295-4501 NovAtel Inc. Fax: (403) 295-4914 1120 68th Avenue NE [EMAIL PROTECTED]Calgary, AB T2E 8S5 -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Search the archives, this is discussed just about weekly. If you find that you aren't finding it in the archives, I'm sure there are those of us who have archived copies of this list that will resend a copy of the why's and why not's for eseutil and isinteg. Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
WOW! Thanks very much. --Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Here are excerpts of postings from people who know exchange very well. Print this out and give it to the guys who are pestering you with the idea of using eseutil on a regular basis. Mal If you are running out of disk space AND there is no whitespace in the database, as indicated by Event ID 1221 in the application event log, then running eseutil will net you NOTHING. If he stops the online maintenance that runs at night by default, I would remove him from the duties of administering the Exchange Server at least until he reads all the whitepapers again. I am not kidding. He is right that we don't want maintenance during primary periods of usage. Allowing online maintenance its nightly window is best. NTBackup does back up the whitespace. The additional time is negligible. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP Use it only when it's needed. It is run regularly only by misinformed admins that: 1) consider their email content and server non-critical. 2) do not need email to be available to their users 24/7. 3) enjoy playing with the cleaning people on the IT chesterfield. William I run it because that is the ONLY way to regain space in the Exchange DB that has been freed up by messages being deleted etc. If I did not do this on a regular basis I would hit the Exchange 5.5 IS limit. 1) That logic is so flawed I can smell it from here. (Forgive me if I'm wrong, Sherry, but aren't you the one that recovers the SAME 450MB every month or was that someone else?) That might have been someone else. It is simply NOT correct. The database doesn't perpetually grow if there is unused whitespace. it doesn't work in 5.5 when you try to redirect the temp database, it must run on the same physical drive that it is stored. 2) That is also incorrect. Have a look at eseutil /? (which in my opinion is the only switch you should be running eseutil with). Do be aware that the speed of this process over the network will be significantly slower than if the temp database was local. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ Only use it if you are directed to by PSS, or if you are using the standard edition of Exchange 5.5 and are running into the 16GB limit. Exchange handles online defrag quite well so there should be no need to run and offline defrag unless you are running into the 16GB limit on Standard Edition. Not to use! Don ely -Original Message- From: Dimitri Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil So what is the best practice with defragmentation? MS says that ESEUITL is not considered a tool for regular maintenance and should only be used in case of emergency after contacting Microsoft Technical Support. On the other hand, there're people here that use it on monthly basis! So, to use or not to use? most the people here who use it on a monthly basis would have a very difficult time explaining what the log files are, what they are used for, and why they are there. don't go by them. Listen to people who know what they are talking about. DON'T TOUCH eseutil unless you are on the phone with PSS or know what you are doing and have a very good backup. The best maintance for Exchange is apply service packs. other then that nothing needs to be done. The longer a server is up the better. Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE Mal Sasalu Information Systems Facilities Phone: (403) 295-4914 NovAtel Inc. Fax: (403) 295-45011120 68th Avenue NE [EMAIL PROTECTED]Calgary, AB T2E 8S5 http://www.novatel.ca -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Priv.edb not decreasing despite deleting moving mailboxes In 5.5 priv.edb will not decrease in size unless you run the ESEUTIL. On a small drive like mine that's a major issue, and we run ESEUTIL once a month to recover space. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Priv.edb not decreasing despite deleting moving mailboxes Read the event log, See what the online defrags tell you you have for white space. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Douglas Hull [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Priv.edb not decreasing despite deleting moving mailboxes I have built a 2nd
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Thank you. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg WOW! Thanks very much. --Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Here are excerpts of postings from people who know exchange very well. Print this out and give it to the guys who are pestering you with the idea of using eseutil on a regular basis. Mal If you are running out of disk space AND there is no whitespace in the database, as indicated by Event ID 1221 in the application event log, then running eseutil will net you NOTHING. If he stops the online maintenance that runs at night by default, I would remove him from the duties of administering the Exchange Server at least until he reads all the whitepapers again. I am not kidding. He is right that we don't want maintenance during primary periods of usage. Allowing online maintenance its nightly window is best. NTBackup does back up the whitespace. The additional time is negligible. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP Use it only when it's needed. It is run regularly only by misinformed admins that: 1) consider their email content and server non-critical. 2) do not need email to be available to their users 24/7. 3) enjoy playing with the cleaning people on the IT chesterfield. William I run it because that is the ONLY way to regain space in the Exchange DB that has been freed up by messages being deleted etc. If I did not do this on a regular basis I would hit the Exchange 5.5 IS limit. 1) That logic is so flawed I can smell it from here. (Forgive me if I'm wrong, Sherry, but aren't you the one that recovers the SAME 450MB every month or was that someone else?) That might have been someone else. It is simply NOT correct. The database doesn't perpetually grow if there is unused whitespace. it doesn't work in 5.5 when you try to redirect the temp database, it must run on the same physical drive that it is stored. 2) That is also incorrect. Have a look at eseutil /? (which in my opinion is the only switch you should be running eseutil with). Do be aware that the speed of this process over the network will be significantly slower than if the temp database was local. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ Only use it if you are directed to by PSS, or if you are using the standard edition of Exchange 5.5 and are running into the 16GB limit. Exchange handles online defrag quite well so there should be no need to run and offline defrag unless you are running into the 16GB limit on Standard Edition. Not to use! Don ely -Original Message- From: Dimitri Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil So what is the best practice with defragmentation? MS says that ESEUITL is not considered a tool for regular maintenance and should only be used in case of emergency after contacting Microsoft Technical Support. On the other hand, there're people here that use it on monthly basis! So, to use or not to use? most the people here who use it on a monthly basis would have a very difficult time explaining what the log files are, what they are used for, and why they are there. don't go by them. Listen to people who know what they are talking about. DON'T TOUCH eseutil unless you are on the phone with PSS or know what you are doing and have a very good backup. The best maintance for Exchange is apply service packs. other then that nothing needs to be done. The longer a server is up the better. Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE Mal Sasalu Information Systems Facilities Phone: (403) 295-4914 NovAtel Inc. Fax: (403) 295-45011120 68th Avenue NE [EMAIL PROTECTED]Calgary, AB T2E 8S5 http://www.novatel.ca -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Priv.edb not decreasing despite deleting moving mailboxes In 5.5 priv.edb will not decrease in size unless you run the ESEUTIL. On a small drive like mine that's a major issue, and we run ESEUTIL once a month to recover space. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Priv.edb not decreasing despite deleting moving mailboxes Read the event log, See what the online defrags tell you you have for white space. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Douglas Hull [mailto
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Thanks for everyone's response, now if I can just convince the powers that be. -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Thank you. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg WOW! Thanks very much. --Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Here are excerpts of postings from people who know exchange very well. Print this out and give it to the guys who are pestering you with the idea of using eseutil on a regular basis. Mal If you are running out of disk space AND there is no whitespace in the database, as indicated by Event ID 1221 in the application event log, then running eseutil will net you NOTHING. If he stops the online maintenance that runs at night by default, I would remove him from the duties of administering the Exchange Server at least until he reads all the whitepapers again. I am not kidding. He is right that we don't want maintenance during primary periods of usage. Allowing online maintenance its nightly window is best. NTBackup does back up the whitespace. The additional time is negligible. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP Use it only when it's needed. It is run regularly only by misinformed admins that: 1) consider their email content and server non-critical. 2) do not need email to be available to their users 24/7. 3) enjoy playing with the cleaning people on the IT chesterfield. William I run it because that is the ONLY way to regain space in the Exchange DB that has been freed up by messages being deleted etc. If I did not do this on a regular basis I would hit the Exchange 5.5 IS limit. 1) That logic is so flawed I can smell it from here. (Forgive me if I'm wrong, Sherry, but aren't you the one that recovers the SAME 450MB every month or was that someone else?) That might have been someone else. It is simply NOT correct. The database doesn't perpetually grow if there is unused whitespace. it doesn't work in 5.5 when you try to redirect the temp database, it must run on the same physical drive that it is stored. 2) That is also incorrect. Have a look at eseutil /? (which in my opinion is the only switch you should be running eseutil with). Do be aware that the speed of this process over the network will be significantly slower than if the temp database was local. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ Only use it if you are directed to by PSS, or if you are using the standard edition of Exchange 5.5 and are running into the 16GB limit. Exchange handles online defrag quite well so there should be no need to run and offline defrag unless you are running into the 16GB limit on Standard Edition. Not to use! Don ely -Original Message- From: Dimitri Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil So what is the best practice with defragmentation? MS says that ESEUITL is not considered a tool for regular maintenance and should only be used in case of emergency after contacting Microsoft Technical Support. On the other hand, there're people here that use it on monthly basis! So, to use or not to use? most the people here who use it on a monthly basis would have a very difficult time explaining what the log files are, what they are used for, and why they are there. don't go by them. Listen to people who know what they are talking about. DON'T TOUCH eseutil unless you are on the phone with PSS or know what you are doing and have a very good backup. The best maintance for Exchange is apply service packs. other then that nothing needs to be done. The longer a server is up the better. Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE Mal Sasalu Information Systems Facilities Phone: (403) 295-4914 NovAtel Inc. Fax: (403) 295-45011120 68th Avenue NE [EMAIL PROTECTED]Calgary, AB T2E 8S5 http://www.novatel.ca -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Priv.edb not decreasing despite deleting moving mailboxes In 5.5 priv.edb will not decrease in size unless you run the ESEUTIL. On a small drive like mine that's a major issue, and we run ESEUTIL once a month to recover space. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Priv.edb not decreasing
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Okay I will quote you on that -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Just tell them Mal, William, Kevin and Don say it is a bad idea. What more do they need? Look at me I have 70 gigs of white space in my priv and I fear running eseutil so much I am not going to run it. --Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Thanks for everyone's response, now if I can just convince the powers that be. -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Thank you. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg WOW! Thanks very much. --Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Here are excerpts of postings from people who know exchange very well. Print this out and give it to the guys who are pestering you with the idea of using eseutil on a regular basis. Mal If you are running out of disk space AND there is no whitespace in the database, as indicated by Event ID 1221 in the application event log, then running eseutil will net you NOTHING. If he stops the online maintenance that runs at night by default, I would remove him from the duties of administering the Exchange Server at least until he reads all the whitepapers again. I am not kidding. He is right that we don't want maintenance during primary periods of usage. Allowing online maintenance its nightly window is best. NTBackup does back up the whitespace. The additional time is negligible. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP Use it only when it's needed. It is run regularly only by misinformed admins that: 1) consider their email content and server non-critical. 2) do not need email to be available to their users 24/7. 3) enjoy playing with the cleaning people on the IT chesterfield. William I run it because that is the ONLY way to regain space in the Exchange DB that has been freed up by messages being deleted etc. If I did not do this on a regular basis I would hit the Exchange 5.5 IS limit. 1) That logic is so flawed I can smell it from here. (Forgive me if I'm wrong, Sherry, but aren't you the one that recovers the SAME 450MB every month or was that someone else?) That might have been someone else. It is simply NOT correct. The database doesn't perpetually grow if there is unused whitespace. it doesn't work in 5.5 when you try to redirect the temp database, it must run on the same physical drive that it is stored. 2) That is also incorrect. Have a look at eseutil /? (which in my opinion is the only switch you should be running eseutil with). Do be aware that the speed of this process over the network will be significantly slower than if the temp database was local. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ Only use it if you are directed to by PSS, or if you are using the standard edition of Exchange 5.5 and are running into the 16GB limit. Exchange handles online defrag quite well so there should be no need to run and offline defrag unless you are running into the 16GB limit on Standard Edition. Not to use! Don ely -Original Message- From: Dimitri Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil So what is the best practice with defragmentation? MS says that ESEUITL is not considered a tool for regular maintenance and should only be used in case of emergency after contacting Microsoft Technical Support. On the other hand, there're people here that use it on monthly basis! So, to use or not to use? most the people here who use it on a monthly basis would have a very difficult time explaining what the log files are, what they are used for, and why they are there. don't go by them. Listen to people who know what they are talking about. DON'T TOUCH eseutil unless you are on the phone with PSS or know what you are doing and have a very good backup. The best maintance for Exchange is apply service packs. other then that nothing needs to be done. The longer a server is up the better. Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE Mal Sasalu Information Systems Facilities Phone: (403) 295-4914 NovAtel Inc. Fax: (403) 295-45011120 68th Avenue NE
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
She heard it Kevin- - - loud and clear :). Mal -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Okay I will quote you on that -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Just tell them Mal, William, Kevin and Don say it is a bad idea. What more do they need? Look at me I have 70 gigs of white space in my priv and I fear running eseutil so much I am not going to run it. --Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Thanks for everyone's response, now if I can just convince the powers that be. -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Thank you. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg WOW! Thanks very much. --Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Here are excerpts of postings from people who know exchange very well. Print this out and give it to the guys who are pestering you with the idea of using eseutil on a regular basis. Mal If you are running out of disk space AND there is no whitespace in the database, as indicated by Event ID 1221 in the application event log, then running eseutil will net you NOTHING. If he stops the online maintenance that runs at night by default, I would remove him from the duties of administering the Exchange Server at least until he reads all the whitepapers again. I am not kidding. He is right that we don't want maintenance during primary periods of usage. Allowing online maintenance its nightly window is best. NTBackup does back up the whitespace. The additional time is negligible. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP Use it only when it's needed. It is run regularly only by misinformed admins that: 1) consider their email content and server non-critical. 2) do not need email to be available to their users 24/7. 3) enjoy playing with the cleaning people on the IT chesterfield. William I run it because that is the ONLY way to regain space in the Exchange DB that has been freed up by messages being deleted etc. If I did not do this on a regular basis I would hit the Exchange 5.5 IS limit. 1) That logic is so flawed I can smell it from here. (Forgive me if I'm wrong, Sherry, but aren't you the one that recovers the SAME 450MB every month or was that someone else?) That might have been someone else. It is simply NOT correct. The database doesn't perpetually grow if there is unused whitespace. it doesn't work in 5.5 when you try to redirect the temp database, it must run on the same physical drive that it is stored. 2) That is also incorrect. Have a look at eseutil /? (which in my opinion is the only switch you should be running eseutil with). Do be aware that the speed of this process over the network will be significantly slower than if the temp database was local. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ Only use it if you are directed to by PSS, or if you are using the standard edition of Exchange 5.5 and are running into the 16GB limit. Exchange handles online defrag quite well so there should be no need to run and offline defrag unless you are running into the 16GB limit on Standard Edition. Not to use! Don ely -Original Message- From: Dimitri Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil So what is the best practice with defragmentation? MS says that ESEUITL is not considered a tool for regular maintenance and should only be used in case of emergency after contacting Microsoft Technical Support. On the other hand, there're people here that use it on monthly basis! So, to use or not to use? most the people here who use it on a monthly basis would have a very difficult time explaining what the log files are, what they are used for, and why they are there. don't go by them. Listen to people who know what they are talking about. DON'T TOUCH eseutil unless you are on the phone with PSS or know what you are doing and have a very good backup. The best maintance for Exchange is apply service packs. other then that nothing needs to be done. The longer a server is up the better
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
And if you've still got any doubts, read this beauty from Ed Woodrick, kindly re-posted by William some time ago Neil From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] First in looking at the arguments, it helps to understand what you are arguing. Somewhat as stated, your team is right defragmentation should be done on a regular basis. It reduces the number of extensions on messages, but more importantly makes it faster and easier to find free space to store the messages. Exchange's database is just like any current art database. It's a transaction oriented, journal led write database. Nothing really spectacular about it, regular database maintenance is all that is really needed. So you can easily go to a DBA and get suggestions on how to best care for a database. In most large database products, take SQL for example, as you create a database, you give it an initial size and then specify if the database is extensible or not and if so, how big is an extension. A common default that I use is 50MB for the initial size and 5MB extensions. Then on a regular basis, the database should be defragmented, and then, once in a blue moon you might want to reload the database, although it's not often done anymore. That's the same with Exchange, you want to defragment the database regularly and then reload it on a extremely rare, probably never basis. Sounds good? Install Exchange 5.5 and let it do it's thing and that's what you've got. Nightly, the system makes two runs through each database to defragment it. It also runs through each page of the database to make sure that the checksum is correct as you perform a backup. And I believe that another process goes through and validate the structure periodically. So why run eseutil/d? Well, when I was talking about databases growing, noticed I never said shrinking. SQL doesn't shrink a database, neither does Exchange. Biggest reason is because there really isn't a need for it in most cases. How many people hear of their total storage decreasing? It's usually at least a 5-10% a year increase. But, there are situations where indeed your database could decrease dramatically. That would be if you put a new storage policy into effect, although with the dumpster it could be a few weeks before the messages are actually deleted and SIS can also impact it. Or if you've added a new server and moved users to it. There are a variety of reasons why you would have gained a lot of white space in your database. The question that you need to ask yourself is are you going to use it again? If you've deleted some users or objects and you've created 1-% additional white space, just how long do you expect it to be before the space fills back up? If it's a few months, don't worry about it. I tend to make a few GB or 10% of the total store, whichever is higher, the number at which I even start thinking about repacking. I saw last night that I've got 50MB of white space in one of my DBs. It's not even on the radar screen to be compacted. If I had 5GB of white space on a 50GB database, then I might start looking for a window to compact it. But remember that it's going to take a few hours of downtime to do it. Eseutil /d is really a misnomer, a hangover from earlier days. For Exchange 5.5 and later, it really should be eseutil /c or compact While it does an applied defragmentation, the database is seldom fragmented, because it is defragmented twice every evening. Oh, and if you do compactions on a regular basis to the same disk, you are probably going to get some ugly NTFS fragmentation. (And yes Daniel, if you compact your database, the system is going to take extra overhead to have to expand the database. And compared to writing a single object, I suspect that it's a rather lengthy process. Okay, it's probably a hundredth of a second, but when you compare it to ill-advised behavior like compacting regularly, at least it make sense) But the real reason why not to do it is like everyone has said, there is nothing to be gained, and a lot to be lost. It is NOT REQUIRED and NOT SUGGESTED to obtain 99.999% uptime. Matter of fact, doing it brings you down to about 99.5% uptime, just taking 4 hours per month. As to making an Exchange Server reach 100% uptime, the equation is pretty simple Keep the Hands Off! (This assume nightly full backups and verification that the backup ran --VERY important!) Sorry folks, not enough time to give you the long version :-) -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 19 April 2002 16:52 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Esutil/Isinteg Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Okay I will quote you on that ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
How do you determine how much white space your database has? Thank you. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Look for event ID 1221 in the application event log. William -Original Message- From: Brenda Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg How do you determine how much white space your database has? Thank you. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
How about: 10 eseutil /d 20 isinteg -fix -alltests 30 goto 10 Should routinely run the utilities nicely! :-) -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 17 April 2002 23:23 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Esutil/Isinteg Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Siegfried Weber posted earlier today with an example of coding a store dismount: Right to the point and as it turns out I wrote a little demo script back in Sept 2001 which shows how to mount/dismount stores with CDOEXM which is avail at http://www.cdolive.net/download/cdoutilities.zip; Siegfried / As with 5.5, running those utilities do little to nothing to benefit a healthy exchange server installation. William -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Esutil/Isinteg Testing Win2K SP2 /E2K SP2. Routinely ran the Eseutil /d and Isinteg -fix -alltests on my Exchange 5.5 server. (long story) Does anyone have suggestions or comments about doing the same with Exchange 2000, from research I have done this doesn't appear to be a good idea but I need more to go on. Also is there a command to dismount a store from the command line? Thanks Julie Lienemann Information Services Colorado School of Mines [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 273-3877 (303) 324-2881 Cell List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Sorry I must have missed that message, guess I'll be using scripts. I was hoping for more feedback on not using Eseutil and Isinteg regularly. Anyone have any good references on these topics? Julie -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Siegfried Weber posted earlier today with an example of coding a store dismount: Right to the point and as it turns out I wrote a little demo script back in Sept 2001 which shows how to mount/dismount stores with CDOEXM which is avail at http://www.cdolive.net/download/cdoutilities.zip; Siegfried / As with 5.5, running those utilities do little to nothing to benefit a healthy exchange server installation. William -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Esutil/Isinteg Testing Win2K SP2 /E2K SP2. Routinely ran the Eseutil /d and Isinteg -fix -alltests on my Exchange 5.5 server. (long story) Does anyone have suggestions or comments about doing the same with Exchange 2000, from research I have done this doesn't appear to be a good idea but I need more to go on. Also is there a command to dismount a store from the command line? Thanks Julie Lienemann Information Services Colorado School of Mines [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 273-3877 (303) 324-2881 Cell List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Why do you want to use those tools? Any particular reason? -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Sorry I must have missed that message, guess I'll be using scripts. I was hoping for more feedback on not using Eseutil and Isinteg regularly. Anyone have any good references on these topics? Julie -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg Siegfried Weber posted earlier today with an example of coding a store dismount: Right to the point and as it turns out I wrote a little demo script back in Sept 2001 which shows how to mount/dismount stores with CDOEXM which is avail at http://www.cdolive.net/download/cdoutilities.zip; Siegfried / As with 5.5, running those utilities do little to nothing to benefit a healthy exchange server installation. William -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Esutil/Isinteg Testing Win2K SP2 /E2K SP2. Routinely ran the Eseutil /d and Isinteg -fix -alltests on my Exchange 5.5 server. (long story) Does anyone have suggestions or comments about doing the same with Exchange 2000, from research I have done this doesn't appear to be a good idea but I need more to go on. Also is there a command to dismount a store from the command line? Thanks Julie Lienemann Information Services Colorado School of Mines [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 273-3877 (303) 324-2881 Cell List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Siegfried Weber posted earlier today with an example of coding a store dismount: Right to the point and as it turns out I wrote a little demo script back in Sept 2001 which shows how to mount/dismount stores with CDOEXM which is avail at http://www.cdolive.net/download/cdoutilities.zip; Siegfried / As with 5.5, running those utilities do little to nothing to benefit a healthy exchange server installation. William -Original Message- From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Esutil/Isinteg Testing Win2K SP2 /E2K SP2. Routinely ran the Eseutil /d and Isinteg -fix -alltests on my Exchange 5.5 server. (long story) Does anyone have suggestions or comments about doing the same with Exchange 2000, from research I have done this doesn't appear to be a good idea but I need more to go on. Also is there a command to dismount a store from the command line? Thanks Julie Lienemann Information Services Colorado School of Mines [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 273-3877 (303) 324-2881 Cell List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
