RE: Event ID 9667

2008-01-23 Thread Michael B. Smith
You got the version of MFCMAPI (MAPI Editor) from CodePlex, right?

 

You want to create a session, login, and open the relevant message store.

 

Then you want to do a GetNamesfromIDs with the default parameters.

 

It should work on any box where Outlook has been installed.

 

Once the limit of named properties are exhausted, a store will no longer
accept any messages that require the creation of a named property. So.it's
non-optimal.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Event ID 9667

 

No need to apologize...in fact I should thank you for taking the time to
educate me...Now I know how much I don't know!

As for MFCMAPI, I downloaded the tool, but I'm not sure how to use it. Do I
need to install it on EXCH box or on a client 
and what option would I have to choose to see properties? What am I looking
for?

Since there are no servers to replicate PF to, what would be the
consequences of leaving it as is, aside from the annoying errors in event
log? 

Thanks again

On Jan 22, 2008 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 

Sorry, I got carried away with the explanation and didn't answer the
questions.

 

I would guess that the spam appliance is creating the custom properties, but
I don't know that for certain. Using MFCMAPI to examine the properties is
likely a good way to identify that.

 

Most Exchange Services run as LocalSystem, so that is why you see SYSTEM
creating the properties.

 

Custom properties are a store attribute. As far as I know (I could ping
someone at MSFT, but I don't know how long it would take to get a response
on this), there is no documented way to remove custom properties from a
store. I've always moved the content and deleted the store. With a PF, you'd
have to replicate it to another server instead of using Move Mailbox.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:22 PM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Event ID 9667

 

 

In general, any message accepted via SMTP (or via drop/pickup folders) is a
non-promoted message until it is processed by the store. This means that it
gets stored into the STM file in an Exchange 2003 database (this is an
optimization for IMAP and POP3, but not for Outlook clients). There is no
STM file in Exchange 2007, so all messages are automagically promoted to the
MAPI property store.

 

Every common header in a message stored in the database is assigned a
property ID. Every X-* header is assigned a custom property ID. In general,
even over millions of messages, there are only a few hundred X-* headers.
What we are seeing more and more commonly, especially with message archiving
and certain anti-spam solutions, is that they add a metric buttload of
custom X-* headers. For example, X-1, X-2, . X-9, etc. etc. Not
the values of the headers, but custom headers themselves (the parts before
the colon in the textual representation of the message).

 

Now, when you move a mailbox to another store, all the messages in that
mailbox lose their custom properties (why, I dunno - that seems like a bug
to me).  That's the standard workaround. Once you've moved all the mailboxes
out of the store with too many properties, you delete the store.

 

MFCMAPI can show you all the named properties on a store.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Event ID 9667

 

Here are the named properties it's trying to create:
X-TM-IMSS-Message-ID
X-Content-Filtered-By
X-Original-Date
X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter
X-TFF-CGPSA-Version
X-Puresend
X-Fantasy-No-Post
X-filenames

By it do you mean EXCH or the spam appliance? According to the event log,
the user attempting to create the named property is SYSTEM.
The mailbox is actually a folder under Public Folders. 

So you're saying the properties are not needed and by moving the mailbox to
another store, they'll get removed?

On Jan 22, 2008 11:59 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 

This almost certainly means that it is creating a custom X-* header. It
shouldn't do that.

 

To eliminate the properties, you can move a mailbox that contains the
properties to another store.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com 

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:33 AM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Event ID 9667

 

If you're referring to the number after quota limit, it's 8192. There are
like 6 or 7 of these events with unique named properties in the APP log.
From the named

RE: Event ID 9667

2008-01-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
What's the number? You only get that warning when you are within 20% of the
maximum limit.

 

You need to figure out what's creating the named properties.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Event ID 9667

 

I'm getting this logged in Application log of one of our EX2K3 servers.
I found a Technet article
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb851495.aspx ) that tells you
to look for some registry values, which I cannot find.
How can I fix this or it's not serious and I should just leave it alone?

TIA

 


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: Event ID 9667

2008-01-22 Thread Alex Alborzfard
If you're referring to the number after quota limit, it's 8192. There are
like 6 or 7 of these events with unique named properties in the APP log.
From the named properties, it seems that it has something to do with our
spam appliance.

Thanks

On Jan 22, 2008 9:38 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



  What's the number? You only get that warning when you are within 20% of
 the maximum limit.



 You need to figure out what's creating the named properties.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 MCSE/Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:33 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Event ID 9667



 I'm getting this logged in Application log of one of our EX2K3 servers.
 I found a Technet article 
 (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb851495.aspx
 ) that tells you to look for some registry values, which I cannot find.
 How can I fix this or it's not serious and I should just leave it alone?

 TIA







~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: Event ID 9667

2008-01-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
This almost certainly means that it is creating a custom X-* header. It
shouldn't do that.

 

To eliminate the properties, you can move a mailbox that contains the
properties to another store.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Event ID 9667

 

If you're referring to the number after quota limit, it's 8192. There are
like 6 or 7 of these events with unique named properties in the APP log.
From the named properties, it seems that it has something to do with our
spam appliance. 

Thanks

On Jan 22, 2008 9:38 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 

What's the number? You only get that warning when you are within 20% of the
maximum limit.

 

You need to figure out what's creating the named properties.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com 

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Event ID 9667

 

I'm getting this logged in Application log of one of our EX2K3 servers.
I found a Technet article
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb851495.aspx ) that tells you
to look for some registry values, which I cannot find.
How can I fix this or it's not serious and I should just leave it alone?

TIA

 

 

 

 

 

 


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: Event ID 9667

2008-01-22 Thread Alex Alborzfard
Here are the named properties it's trying to create:
X-TM-IMSS-Message-ID
X-Content-Filtered-By
X-Original-Date
X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter
X-TFF-CGPSA-Version
X-Puresend
X-Fantasy-No-Post
X-filenames

By it do you mean EXCH or the spam appliance? According to the event log,
the user attempting to create the named property is SYSTEM.
The mailbox is actually a folder under Public Folders.

So you're saying the properties are not needed and by moving the mailbox to
another store, they'll get removed?


On Jan 22, 2008 11:59 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



  This almost certainly means that it is creating a custom X-* header. It
 shouldn't do that.



 To eliminate the properties, you can move a mailbox that contains the
 properties to another store.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 MCSE/Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:33 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Event ID 9667



 If you're referring to the number after quota limit, it's 8192. There are
 like 6 or 7 of these events with unique named properties in the APP log.
 From the named properties, it seems that it has something to do with our
 spam appliance.

 Thanks

 On Jan 22, 2008 9:38 AM, Michael B. Smith 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 What's the number? You only get that warning when you are within 20% of
 the maximum limit.



 You need to figure out what's creating the named properties.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 MCSE/Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:33 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Event ID 9667



 I'm getting this logged in Application log of one of our EX2K3 servers.
 I found a Technet article 
 (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb851495.aspx
 ) that tells you to look for some registry values, which I cannot find.
 How can I fix this or it's not serious and I should just leave it alone?

 TIA

















~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: Event ID 9667

2008-01-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
Sorry, I got carried away with the explanation and didn't answer the
questions.

 

I would guess that the spam appliance is creating the custom properties, but
I don't know that for certain. Using MFCMAPI to examine the properties is
likely a good way to identify that.

 

Most Exchange Services run as LocalSystem, so that is why you see SYSTEM
creating the properties.

 

Custom properties are a store attribute. As far as I know (I could ping
someone at MSFT, but I don't know how long it would take to get a response
on this), there is no documented way to remove custom properties from a
store. I've always moved the content and deleted the store. With a PF, you'd
have to replicate it to another server instead of using Move Mailbox.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Event ID 9667

 

 

In general, any message accepted via SMTP (or via drop/pickup folders) is a
non-promoted message until it is processed by the store. This means that it
gets stored into the STM file in an Exchange 2003 database (this is an
optimization for IMAP and POP3, but not for Outlook clients). There is no
STM file in Exchange 2007, so all messages are automagically promoted to the
MAPI property store.

 

Every common header in a message stored in the database is assigned a
property ID. Every X-* header is assigned a custom property ID. In general,
even over millions of messages, there are only a few hundred X-* headers.
What we are seeing more and more commonly, especially with message archiving
and certain anti-spam solutions, is that they add a metric buttload of
custom X-* headers. For example, X-1, X-2, . X-9, etc. etc. Not
the values of the headers, but custom headers themselves (the parts before
the colon in the textual representation of the message).

 

Now, when you move a mailbox to another store, all the messages in that
mailbox lose their custom properties (why, I dunno - that seems like a bug
to me).  That's the standard workaround. Once you've moved all the mailboxes
out of the store with too many properties, you delete the store.

 

MFCMAPI can show you all the named properties on a store.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Event ID 9667

 

Here are the named properties it's trying to create:
X-TM-IMSS-Message-ID
X-Content-Filtered-By
X-Original-Date
X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter
X-TFF-CGPSA-Version
X-Puresend
X-Fantasy-No-Post
X-filenames

By it do you mean EXCH or the spam appliance? According to the event log,
the user attempting to create the named property is SYSTEM.
The mailbox is actually a folder under Public Folders. 

So you're saying the properties are not needed and by moving the mailbox to
another store, they'll get removed?

On Jan 22, 2008 11:59 AM, Michael B. Smith 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 

This almost certainly means that it is creating a custom X-* header. It
shouldn't do that.

 

To eliminate the properties, you can move a mailbox that contains the
properties to another store.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com 

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:33 AM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Event ID 9667

 

If you're referring to the number after quota limit, it's 8192. There are
like 6 or 7 of these events with unique named properties in the APP log.
From the named properties, it seems that it has something to do with our
spam appliance. 

Thanks

On Jan 22, 2008 9:38 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 

What's the number? You only get that warning when you are within 20% of the
maximum limit.

 

You need to figure out what's creating the named properties.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com 

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Event ID 9667

 

I'm getting this logged in Application log of one of our EX2K3 servers.
I found a Technet article
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb851495.aspx ) that tells you
to look for some registry values, which I cannot find.
How can I fix this or it's not serious and I should just leave it alone?

TIA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: Event ID 9667

2008-01-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
In general, any message accepted via SMTP (or via drop/pickup folders) is a
non-promoted message until it is processed by the store. This means that it
gets stored into the STM file in an Exchange 2003 database (this is an
optimization for IMAP and POP3, but not for Outlook clients). There is no
STM file in Exchange 2007, so all messages are automagically promoted to the
MAPI property store.

 

Every common header in a message stored in the database is assigned a
property ID. Every X-* header is assigned a custom property ID. In general,
even over millions of messages, there are only a few hundred X-* headers.
What we are seeing more and more commonly, especially with message archiving
and certain anti-spam solutions, is that they add a metric buttload of
custom X-* headers. For example, X-1, X-2, . X-9, etc. etc. Not
the values of the headers, but custom headers themselves (the parts before
the colon in the textual representation of the message).

 

Now, when you move a mailbox to another store, all the messages in that
mailbox lose their custom properties (why, I dunno - that seems like a bug
to me).  That's the standard workaround. Once you've moved all the mailboxes
out of the store with too many properties, you delete the store.

 

MFCMAPI can show you all the named properties on a store.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Event ID 9667

 

Here are the named properties it's trying to create:
X-TM-IMSS-Message-ID
X-Content-Filtered-By
X-Original-Date
X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter
X-TFF-CGPSA-Version
X-Puresend
X-Fantasy-No-Post
X-filenames

By it do you mean EXCH or the spam appliance? According to the event log,
the user attempting to create the named property is SYSTEM.
The mailbox is actually a folder under Public Folders. 

So you're saying the properties are not needed and by moving the mailbox to
another store, they'll get removed?



On Jan 22, 2008 11:59 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 

This almost certainly means that it is creating a custom X-* header. It
shouldn't do that.

 

To eliminate the properties, you can move a mailbox that contains the
properties to another store.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com 

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:33 AM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Event ID 9667

 

If you're referring to the number after quota limit, it's 8192. There are
like 6 or 7 of these events with unique named properties in the APP log.
From the named properties, it seems that it has something to do with our
spam appliance. 

Thanks

On Jan 22, 2008 9:38 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 

What's the number? You only get that warning when you are within 20% of the
maximum limit.

 

You need to figure out what's creating the named properties.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com 

 

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Event ID 9667

 

I'm getting this logged in Application log of one of our EX2K3 servers.
I found a Technet article
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb851495.aspx ) that tells you
to look for some registry values, which I cannot find.
How can I fix this or it's not serious and I should just leave it alone?

TIA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: Event ID 9667

2008-01-22 Thread Andy David
2007 SP1 will fire events when named properties are created.
I think the only option is moving mailboxes to another store as you have stated.


Something like:


Event Type:Information
Event Source:MSExchangeIS
Event Category:General
Event ID:  9873
Date: 1/22/2008
Time: 1:10:35 PM
User: N/A
Computer:
Description:
A named property has been created for the database /o=Blackstone/ou=Exchange 
Administrative Group 
(FYDIBOHF23SPDLT)/cn=Configuration/cn=Servers/cn=Ely/cn=Microsoft Private MDB.
 ID: 0x9123
 Named property GUID: 00020386---c000-0046
 Named property name/ID: x-coolheader-sitenum
 The following user is attempting to create the named property: N/A
 Protocol:  MAPI
 Client type: Transport
 Client version: 2049.0.33008.5

For more information, see Help and Support Center at 
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Event ID 9667


Sorry, I got carried away with the explanation and didn't answer the 
questions...

I would guess that the spam appliance is creating the custom properties, but I 
don't know that for certain. Using MFCMAPI to examine the properties is likely 
a good way to identify that.

Most Exchange Services run as LocalSystem, so that is why you see SYSTEM 
creating the properties.

Custom properties are a store attribute. As far as I know (I could ping someone 
at MSFT, but I don't know how long it would take to get a response on this), 
there is no documented way to remove custom properties from a store. I've 
always moved the content and deleted the store. With a PF, you'd have to 
replicate it to another server instead of using Move Mailbox.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Event ID 9667


In general, any message accepted via SMTP (or via drop/pickup folders) is a 
non-promoted message until it is processed by the store. This means that it 
gets stored into the STM file in an Exchange 2003 database (this is an 
optimization for IMAP and POP3, but not for Outlook clients). There is no STM 
file in Exchange 2007, so all messages are automagically promoted to the MAPI 
property store.

Every common header in a message stored in the database is assigned a property 
ID. Every X-* header is assigned a custom property ID. In general, even over 
millions of messages, there are only a few hundred X-* headers. What we are 
seeing more and more commonly, especially with message archiving and certain 
anti-spam solutions, is that they add a metric buttload of custom X-* headers. 
For example, X-1, X-2, ... X-9, etc. etc. Not the values of the 
headers, but custom headers themselves (the parts before the colon in the 
textual representation of the message).

Now, when you move a mailbox to another store, all the messages in that mailbox 
lose their custom properties (why, I dunno - that seems like a bug to me).  
That's the standard workaround. Once you've moved all the mailboxes out of the 
store with too many properties, you delete the store.

MFCMAPI can show you all the named properties on a store.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Event ID 9667

Here are the named properties it's trying to create:
X-TM-IMSS-Message-ID
X-Content-Filtered-By
X-Original-Date
X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter
X-TFF-CGPSA-Version
X-Puresend
X-Fantasy-No-Post
X-filenames

By it do you mean EXCH or the spam appliance? According to the event log, the 
user attempting to create the named property is SYSTEM.
The mailbox is actually a folder under Public Folders.

So you're saying the properties are not needed and by moving the mailbox to 
another store, they'll get removed?
On Jan 22, 2008 11:59 AM, Michael B. Smith  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:


This almost certainly means that it is creating a custom X-* header. It 
shouldn't do that.



To eliminate the properties, you can move a mailbox that contains the 
properties to another store.



Regards,



Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com



From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:33 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Event ID 9667



If you're referring to the number after quota limit, it's 8192. There are like 
6 or 7 of these events with unique named properties in the APP log.
From the named properties, it seems that it has something to do with our spam 
appliance.

Thanks

On Jan 22, 2008 9:38 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto

Re: Event ID 9667

2008-01-22 Thread Alex Alborzfard
No need to apologize...in fact I should thank you for taking the time to
educate me...Now I know how much I don't know!

As for MFCMAPI, I downloaded the tool, but I'm not sure how to use it. Do I
need to install it on EXCH box or on a client
and what option would I have to choose to see properties? What am I looking
for?

Since there are no servers to replicate PF to, what would be the
consequences of leaving it as is, aside from the annoying errors in event
log?

Thanks again

On Jan 22, 2008 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



  Sorry, I got carried away with the explanation and didn't answer the
 questions…



 I would guess that the spam appliance is creating the custom properties,
 but I don't know that for certain. Using MFCMAPI to examine the properties
 is likely a good way to identify that.



 Most Exchange Services run as LocalSystem, so that is why you see SYSTEM
 creating the properties.



 Custom properties are a store attribute. As far as I know (I could ping
 someone at MSFT, but I don't know how long it would take to get a response
 on this), there is no documented way to remove custom properties from a
 store. I've always moved the content and deleted the store. With a PF, you'd
 have to replicate it to another server instead of using Move Mailbox.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 MCSE/Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:22 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Event ID 9667





 In general, any message accepted via SMTP (or via drop/pickup folders) is
 a non-promoted message until it is processed by the store. This means that
 it gets stored into the STM file in an Exchange 2003 database (this is an
 optimization for IMAP and POP3, but not for Outlook clients). There is no
 STM file in Exchange 2007, so all messages are automagically promoted to the
 MAPI property store.



 Every common header in a message stored in the database is assigned a
 property ID. Every X-* header is assigned a custom property ID. In general,
 even over millions of messages, there are only a few hundred X-* headers.
 What we are seeing more and more commonly, especially with message archiving
 and certain anti-spam solutions, is that they add a metric buttload of
 custom X-* headers. For example, X-1, X-2, … X-9, etc. etc. Not
 the values of the headers, but custom headers themselves (the parts before
 the colon in the textual representation of the message).



 Now, when you move a mailbox to another store, all the messages in that
 mailbox lose their custom properties (why, I dunno – that seems like a bug
 to me).  That's the standard workaround. Once you've moved all the mailboxes
 out of the store with too many properties, you delete the store.



 MFCMAPI can show you all the named properties on a store.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 MCSE/Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:35 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Event ID 9667



 Here are the named properties it's trying to create:
 X-TM-IMSS-Message-ID
 X-Content-Filtered-By
 X-Original-Date
 X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter
 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version
 X-Puresend
 X-Fantasy-No-Post
 X-filenames

 By it do you mean EXCH or the spam appliance? According to the event
 log, the user attempting to create the named property is SYSTEM.
 The mailbox is actually a folder under Public Folders.

 So you're saying the properties are not needed and by moving the mailbox
 to another store, they'll get removed?

 On Jan 22, 2008 11:59 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:



 This almost certainly means that it is creating a custom X-* header. It
 shouldn't do that.



 To eliminate the properties, you can move a mailbox that contains the
 properties to another store.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 MCSE/Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:33 AM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues

 *Subject:* Re: Event ID 9667



 If you're referring to the number after quota limit, it's 8192. There are
 like 6 or 7 of these events with unique named properties in the APP log.
 From the named properties, it seems that it has something to do with our
 spam appliance.

 Thanks

 On Jan 22, 2008 9:38 AM, Michael B. Smith 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 What's the number? You only get that warning when you are within 20% of
 the maximum limit.



 You need to figure out what's creating the named properties.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 MCSE/Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:33 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Event ID 9667



 I'm getting this logged in Application log of one of our EX2K3 servers.
 I