RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

2008-10-14 Thread John Hornbuckle
I Google'd it and clicked the Help button on that screen.

My IP Block List Providers are SpamHaus and SpamCop. Are you seeing that when 
one of them says an IP host is a spammer, it's automatically added to the IP 
Block List?

Because in the process of troubleshooting, I had checked this particular IP 
address at both of those sites. Neither of them listed it...



-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

Inquiring minds want to know: where did you dig around? :-)

The IP Block List is populated by the IP Block List Providers that you
specify one line down in the Anti-Spam configuration.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

After several months of using Exchange 2007, I just became aware of the fact
that IP addresses are automatically added to the IP Block List. Shame on me,
I guess; I never realized that happened. This morning I got a call from a
sysadmin for an organization that was unable to send mail to one of my
users, and in troubleshooting I found them on the block list along with a
bunch of other addresses that I never added.

I'm digging around, though, and am coming up short on info about how,
exactly, this happens. Under what circumstances does an IP get automatically
added to that list? I notice that the automatically-added addresses have
expiration dates/times. How long is an address blocked for that's put on the
list automatically? Is that configurable?



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

2008-10-14 Thread John Hornbuckle
Thanks--that helped. It led me to this:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998344(EXCHG.80).aspx

What happened initially was that someone on the sender's side sent out a mass 
e-mail (not spam--but a message with numerous recipients). My server kicked it 
back to the sender. The sender then tried several more times to send the 
message, which probably bumped up their SRL rating to the point where their 
server's IP was blocked altogether. At that point, messages sent from them were 
rejected with a 5.7.1 message saying something to the effect of "you don't have 
permission to send to this address."



-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Exchange 2007 IP Block List
>
> After several months of using Exchange 2007, I just became aware of the
> fact that IP addresses are automatically added to the IP Block List.
> Shame on me, I guess; I never realized that happened. This morning I
> got a call from a sysadmin for an organization that was unable to send
> mail to one of my users, and in troubleshooting I found them on the
> block list along with a bunch of other addresses that I never added.
>
> I'm digging around, though, and am coming up short on info about how,
> exactly, this happens. Under what circumstances does an IP get
> automatically added to that list? I notice that the automatically-added
> addresses have expiration dates/times. How long is an address blocked
> for that's put on the list automatically? Is that configurable?

William Lefkovics', et al in The Complete Reference Microsoft Exchange
Server 2007, page 540:

Note:  In addition to the manually entered IP addresses or ranges, IP Block
Lists also get populated dynamically by the Sender Reputation filter...


Webster


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RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

2008-10-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Verified and reported. Generally a document refresh happens every 6 to 8
weeks.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

By the way... That article states that the SRL block threshold defaults to
9. However, this page:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124510(EXCHG.80).aspx

Says it defaults to 7, and it was 7 on my server (and I've never changed
it).




-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

Thanks--that helped. It led me to this:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998344(EXCHG.80).aspx

What happened initially was that someone on the sender's side sent out a
mass e-mail (not spam--but a message with numerous recipients). My server
kicked it back to the sender. The sender then tried several more times to
send the message, which probably bumped up their SRL rating to the point
where their server's IP was blocked altogether. At that point, messages sent
from them were rejected with a 5.7.1 message saying something to the effect
of "you don't have permission to send to this address."



-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Exchange 2007 IP Block List
>
> After several months of using Exchange 2007, I just became aware of the
> fact that IP addresses are automatically added to the IP Block List.
> Shame on me, I guess; I never realized that happened. This morning I
> got a call from a sysadmin for an organization that was unable to send
> mail to one of my users, and in troubleshooting I found them on the
> block list along with a bunch of other addresses that I never added.
>
> I'm digging around, though, and am coming up short on info about how,
> exactly, this happens. Under what circumstances does an IP get
> automatically added to that list? I notice that the automatically-added
> addresses have expiration dates/times. How long is an address blocked
> for that's put on the list automatically? Is that configurable?

William Lefkovics', et al in The Complete Reference Microsoft Exchange
Server 2007, page 540:

Note:  In addition to the manually entered IP addresses or ranges, IP Block
Lists also get populated dynamically by the Sender Reputation filter...


Webster


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RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

2008-10-14 Thread John Hornbuckle
By the way... That article states that the SRL block threshold defaults to 9. 
However, this page:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124510(EXCHG.80).aspx

Says it defaults to 7, and it was 7 on my server (and I've never changed it).




-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

Thanks--that helped. It led me to this:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998344(EXCHG.80).aspx

What happened initially was that someone on the sender's side sent out a mass 
e-mail (not spam--but a message with numerous recipients). My server kicked it 
back to the sender. The sender then tried several more times to send the 
message, which probably bumped up their SRL rating to the point where their 
server's IP was blocked altogether. At that point, messages sent from them were 
rejected with a 5.7.1 message saying something to the effect of "you don't have 
permission to send to this address."



-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Exchange 2007 IP Block List
>
> After several months of using Exchange 2007, I just became aware of the
> fact that IP addresses are automatically added to the IP Block List.
> Shame on me, I guess; I never realized that happened. This morning I
> got a call from a sysadmin for an organization that was unable to send
> mail to one of my users, and in troubleshooting I found them on the
> block list along with a bunch of other addresses that I never added.
>
> I'm digging around, though, and am coming up short on info about how,
> exactly, this happens. Under what circumstances does an IP get
> automatically added to that list? I notice that the automatically-added
> addresses have expiration dates/times. How long is an address blocked
> for that's put on the list automatically? Is that configurable?

William Lefkovics', et al in The Complete Reference Microsoft Exchange
Server 2007, page 540:

Note:  In addition to the manually entered IP addresses or ranges, IP Block
Lists also get populated dynamically by the Sender Reputation filter...


Webster


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RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

2008-10-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Huh. Learn something new every day (I don't have photographic memory like
B'Bear!).

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

Thanks--that helped. It led me to this:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998344(EXCHG.80).aspx

What happened initially was that someone on the sender's side sent out a
mass e-mail (not spam--but a message with numerous recipients). My server
kicked it back to the sender. The sender then tried several more times to
send the message, which probably bumped up their SRL rating to the point
where their server's IP was blocked altogether. At that point, messages sent
from them were rejected with a 5.7.1 message saying something to the effect
of "you don't have permission to send to this address."



-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Exchange 2007 IP Block List
>
> After several months of using Exchange 2007, I just became aware of the
> fact that IP addresses are automatically added to the IP Block List.
> Shame on me, I guess; I never realized that happened. This morning I
> got a call from a sysadmin for an organization that was unable to send
> mail to one of my users, and in troubleshooting I found them on the
> block list along with a bunch of other addresses that I never added.
>
> I'm digging around, though, and am coming up short on info about how,
> exactly, this happens. Under what circumstances does an IP get
> automatically added to that list? I notice that the automatically-added
> addresses have expiration dates/times. How long is an address blocked
> for that's put on the list automatically? Is that configurable?

William Lefkovics', et al in The Complete Reference Microsoft Exchange
Server 2007, page 540:

Note:  In addition to the manually entered IP addresses or ranges, IP Block
Lists also get populated dynamically by the Sender Reputation filter...


Webster


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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

2008-10-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Inquiring minds want to know: where did you dig around? :-)

The IP Block List is populated by the IP Block List Providers that you
specify one line down in the Anti-Spam configuration.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

After several months of using Exchange 2007, I just became aware of the fact
that IP addresses are automatically added to the IP Block List. Shame on me,
I guess; I never realized that happened. This morning I got a call from a
sysadmin for an organization that was unable to send mail to one of my
users, and in troubleshooting I found them on the block list along with a
bunch of other addresses that I never added.

I'm digging around, though, and am coming up short on info about how,
exactly, this happens. Under what circumstances does an IP get automatically
added to that list? I notice that the automatically-added addresses have
expiration dates/times. How long is an address blocked for that's put on the
list automatically? Is that configurable?



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Exchange 2007 IP Block List

2008-10-14 Thread Webster
> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Exchange 2007 IP Block List
> 
> After several months of using Exchange 2007, I just became aware of the
> fact that IP addresses are automatically added to the IP Block List.
> Shame on me, I guess; I never realized that happened. This morning I
> got a call from a sysadmin for an organization that was unable to send
> mail to one of my users, and in troubleshooting I found them on the
> block list along with a bunch of other addresses that I never added.
> 
> I'm digging around, though, and am coming up short on info about how,
> exactly, this happens. Under what circumstances does an IP get
> automatically added to that list? I notice that the automatically-added
> addresses have expiration dates/times. How long is an address blocked
> for that's put on the list automatically? Is that configurable?

William Lefkovics', et al in The Complete Reference Microsoft Exchange
Server 2007, page 540:

Note:  In addition to the manually entered IP addresses or ranges, IP Block
Lists also get populated dynamically by the Sender Reputation filter...


Webster


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