Re: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
Is it even supported yet by BB? John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Talk about bleeding edge… From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 10:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 HI, Anyone running Exchange 2013 and Bes 10 yet. Any issues I need to be aware of? -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
Presuming Microsoft makes the announced tomorrow release of CU1, my understanding is that it will be supported as of tomorrow. I have no inside knowledge of that, it is just what I’ve heard. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Is it even supported yet by BB? John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Talk about bleeding edge… From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 10:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 HI, Anyone running Exchange 2013 and Bes 10 yet. Any issues I need to be aware of? -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
BES 10 works different than the older BES releasesthe new devices all use activesync, so now you implement BES for policies and internal resource access. Not for mail, calendar, etc syncing. On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Presuming Microsoft makes the announced tomorrow release of CU1, my understanding is that it will be supported as of tomorrow. I have no inside knowledge of that, it is just what I’ve heard. ** ** *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2013 11:25 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 ** ** Is it even supported yet by BB? John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families *From*: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.commich...@smithcons.com] *Sent*: Monday, April 01, 2013 11:01 AM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Talk about bleeding edge… *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.comjgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2013 10:49 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Exchange 2013 + BES 10 HI, Anyone running Exchange 2013 and Bes 10 yet. Any issues I need to be aware of? -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** ** -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
Does it still connect to the BES Network, Do user need a Enterprise Account from the provider? So Bes 10 is just a MDM now? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: BES 10 works different than the older BES releasesthe new devices all use activesync, so now you implement BES for policies and internal resource access. Not for mail, calendar, etc syncing. On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Presuming Microsoft makes the announced tomorrow release of CU1, my understanding is that it will be supported as of tomorrow. I have no inside knowledge of that, it is just what I’ve heard. ** ** *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2013 11:25 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 ** ** Is it even supported yet by BB? John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families *From*: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.commich...@smithcons.com] *Sent*: Monday, April 01, 2013 11:01 AM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Talk about bleeding edge… *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.comjgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2013 10:49 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Exchange 2013 + BES 10 HI, Anyone running Exchange 2013 and Bes 10 yet. Any issues I need to be aware of? -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** ** -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
Blackberry and Exchange 2013 is a mess. As things stand, today (could all change tomorrow)... You can use BES 10 with Exchange 2013 without any issues because it uses ActiveSync for the final connection to Exchange. You can also use BES 10 with Exchange 2010, using the MAPI CDO just as you can with BES 5.x. You can use the same account as BES 5 with your BES 10, but you cannot install BES 10 on the same server as BES 5.x For BES 5 to Exchange 2013, you need the latest service pack (5.0.4) plus MR2 (or later) and the latest MAPI CDO. Anyone doing anything with MAPI CDO should monitor this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/stephen_griffin/archive/2013/02/28/exchange-2013-compatible-mapicdo.aspx As an aside, BES 10 is actually three bits: BDS (Blackberry Device Service) - this is for Blackberry 10 devices only and is effectively BES 6.2 UDS (Universal Device Service) - this is for Android (with Touchdown) and iPhone. BMC (Blackberry Management Console) - this provides a simple user interface which gives you a single interface for the two above and a BES 5 installation (including BES Express). The idea is that day to day you can use the management console. BES 10 has effectively become just a MDM, as you can connect a BES 10 device straight to Exchange using ActiveSync. There is also no need for a special data plan, as it uses regular data, but that means your data use will go up because it doesn't go through the Blackberry network which compresses the data. It is a very good MDM though and Balance looks like a winner. It isn't a 10 minute install for all the parts either, you need to do it in the order the documentation says. However if you aren't going to add iPhones and Android to it, then just install BDM, which is just as easy as BES 5. On the subject of the data plan - that depends on your provider. I have heard some are just allowing it, others require additional subscriptions. I think my three rules of Microsoft licencing rule might work here - ask three times, get four different answers, get the response in writing and the most expensive solution will be the correct one. Of course over here in the UK we have had Blackberry 10 for a little longer than the US, so some of this is old news. Hope this helps, Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $29.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 01 April 2013 16:06 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Talk about bleeding edge... From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 10:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 HI, Anyone running Exchange 2013 and Bes 10 yet. Any issues I need to be aware of? -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
I just setup a Z10, using straight EAS, as a test. If you are tying down EAS using the device's S/N (similar to a Droid or iDevice) it uses an ID that is a combination of BB and the device PIN. BB123AB1A1, for example. A coworker of mine is standing up a BES 10 server in the next week or two (Exch2k7 shop). Tickets are rolling in for people who went out and bought Z10s already, without checking with us for compatibility. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE2EDC.AE5482E0] From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Blackberry and Exchange 2013 is a mess. As things stand, today (could all change tomorrow)... You can use BES 10 with Exchange 2013 without any issues because it uses ActiveSync for the final connection to Exchange. You can also use BES 10 with Exchange 2010, using the MAPI CDO just as you can with BES 5.x. You can use the same account as BES 5 with your BES 10, but you cannot install BES 10 on the same server as BES 5.x For BES 5 to Exchange 2013, you need the latest service pack (5.0.4) plus MR2 (or later) and the latest MAPI CDO. Anyone doing anything with MAPI CDO should monitor this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/stephen_griffin/archive/2013/02/28/exchange-2013-compatible-mapicdo.aspx As an aside, BES 10 is actually three bits: BDS (Blackberry Device Service) - this is for Blackberry 10 devices only and is effectively BES 6.2 UDS (Universal Device Service) - this is for Android (with Touchdown) and iPhone. BMC (Blackberry Management Console) - this provides a simple user interface which gives you a single interface for the two above and a BES 5 installation (including BES Express). The idea is that day to day you can use the management console. BES 10 has effectively become just a MDM, as you can connect a BES 10 device straight to Exchange using ActiveSync. There is also no need for a special data plan, as it uses regular data, but that means your data use will go up because it doesn't go through the Blackberry network which compresses the data. It is a very good MDM though and Balance looks like a winner. It isn't a 10 minute install for all the parts either, you need to do it in the order the documentation says. However if you aren't going to add iPhones and Android to it, then just install BDM, which is just as easy as BES 5. On the subject of the data plan - that depends on your provider. I have heard some are just allowing it, others require additional subscriptions. I think my three rules of Microsoft licencing rule might work here - ask three times, get four different answers, get the response in writing and the most expensive solution will be the correct one. Of course over here in the UK we have had Blackberry 10 for a little longer than the US, so some of this is old news. Hope this helps, Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $29.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 01 April 2013 16:06 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Talk about bleeding edge... From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 10:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 HI, Anyone running Exchange 2013 and Bes 10 yet. Any issues I need to be aware of? -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property
RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
Byod at its best ))) From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 I just setup a Z10, using straight EAS, as a test. If you are tying down EAS using the device's S/N (similar to a Droid or iDevice) it uses an ID that is a combination of BB and the device PIN. BB123AB1A1, for example. A coworker of mine is standing up a BES 10 server in the next week or two (Exch2k7 shop). Tickets are rolling in for people who went out and bought Z10s already, without checking with us for compatibility. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Blackberry and Exchange 2013 is a mess. As things stand, today (could all change tomorrow)... You can use BES 10 with Exchange 2013 without any issues because it uses ActiveSync for the final connection to Exchange. You can also use BES 10 with Exchange 2010, using the MAPI CDO just as you can with BES 5.x. You can use the same account as BES 5 with your BES 10, but you cannot install BES 10 on the same server as BES 5.x For BES 5 to Exchange 2013, you need the latest service pack (5.0.4) plus MR2 (or later) and the latest MAPI CDO. Anyone doing anything with MAPI CDO should monitor this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/stephen_griffin/archive/2013/02/28/exchange-2013-compatible-mapicdo.aspx As an aside, BES 10 is actually three bits: BDS (Blackberry Device Service) - this is for Blackberry 10 devices only and is effectively BES 6.2 UDS (Universal Device Service) - this is for Android (with Touchdown) and iPhone. BMC (Blackberry Management Console) - this provides a simple user interface which gives you a single interface for the two above and a BES 5 installation (including BES Express). The idea is that day to day you can use the management console. BES 10 has effectively become just a MDM, as you can connect a BES 10 device straight to Exchange using ActiveSync. There is also no need for a special data plan, as it uses regular data, but that means your data use will go up because it doesn't go through the Blackberry network which compresses the data. It is a very good MDM though and Balance looks like a winner. It isn't a 10 minute install for all the parts either, you need to do it in the order the documentation says. However if you aren't going to add iPhones and Android to it, then just install BDM, which is just as easy as BES 5. On the subject of the data plan - that depends on your provider. I have heard some are just allowing it, others require additional subscriptions. I think my three rules of Microsoft licencing rule might work here - ask three times, get four different answers, get the response in writing and the most expensive solution will be the correct one. Of course over here in the UK we have had Blackberry 10 for a little longer than the US, so some of this is old news. Hope this helps, Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $29.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 01 April 2013 16:06 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Talk about bleeding edge... From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 10:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 HI, Anyone running Exchange 2013 and Bes 10 yet. Any issues I need to be aware of? -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
Exactly!... So, now the question will be do we connect them to the BES server or run them just using EAS? We've got the EAS policies for iDevices and Droids, so it wouldn't be hard to massage them to fit BBs. We're also using Zenprise. Everyone into the pool! : ) With some of the heavy users, I can see the data part of it, mentioned by Simon, to be a possible factor. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE2EDE.CCE6AC90] From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Byod at its best ))) From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 I just setup a Z10, using straight EAS, as a test. If you are tying down EAS using the device's S/N (similar to a Droid or iDevice) it uses an ID that is a combination of BB and the device PIN. BB123AB1A1, for example. A coworker of mine is standing up a BES 10 server in the next week or two (Exch2k7 shop). Tickets are rolling in for people who went out and bought Z10s already, without checking with us for compatibility. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE2EDE.CCE6AC90] From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Blackberry and Exchange 2013 is a mess. As things stand, today (could all change tomorrow)... You can use BES 10 with Exchange 2013 without any issues because it uses ActiveSync for the final connection to Exchange. You can also use BES 10 with Exchange 2010, using the MAPI CDO just as you can with BES 5.x. You can use the same account as BES 5 with your BES 10, but you cannot install BES 10 on the same server as BES 5.x For BES 5 to Exchange 2013, you need the latest service pack (5.0.4) plus MR2 (or later) and the latest MAPI CDO. Anyone doing anything with MAPI CDO should monitor this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/stephen_griffin/archive/2013/02/28/exchange-2013-compatible-mapicdo.aspx As an aside, BES 10 is actually three bits: BDS (Blackberry Device Service) - this is for Blackberry 10 devices only and is effectively BES 6.2 UDS (Universal Device Service) - this is for Android (with Touchdown) and iPhone. BMC (Blackberry Management Console) - this provides a simple user interface which gives you a single interface for the two above and a BES 5 installation (including BES Express). The idea is that day to day you can use the management console. BES 10 has effectively become just a MDM, as you can connect a BES 10 device straight to Exchange using ActiveSync. There is also no need for a special data plan, as it uses regular data, but that means your data use will go up because it doesn't go through the Blackberry network which compresses the data. It is a very good MDM though and Balance looks like a winner. It isn't a 10 minute install for all the parts either, you need to do it in the order the documentation says. However if you aren't going to add iPhones and Android to it, then just install BDM, which is just as easy as BES 5. On the subject of the data plan - that depends on your provider. I have heard some are just allowing it, others require additional subscriptions. I think my three rules of Microsoft licencing rule might work here - ask three times, get four different answers, get the response in writing and the most expensive solution will be the correct one. Of course over here in the UK we have had Blackberry 10 for a little longer than the US, so some of this is old news. Hope this helps, Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $29.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 01 April 2013 16:06 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Re: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
Does Zenprise (now Citrix) support the BB10? Or Windows OS phones? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: Exactly!... ** ** So, now the question will be do we connect them to the BES server or run them just using EAS? We’ve got the EAS policies for iDevices and Droids, so it wouldn’t be hard to massage them to fit BBs. We’re also using Zenprise. ** ** Everyone into the pool! ** ** : ) ** ** With some of the heavy users, I can see the data part of it, mentioned by Simon, to be a possible factor. ** ** Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] ** ** *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 01, 2013 1:38 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 ** ** Byod at its best ))) ** ** *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2013 1:31 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 ** ** I just setup a Z10, using straight EAS, as a test. If you are tying down EAS using the device’s S/N (similar to a Droid or iDevice) it uses an ID that is a combination of “BB” and the device PIN. ** ** “BB123AB1A1”, for example. ** ** A coworker of mine is standing up a BES 10 server in the next week or two (Exch2k7 shop). Tickets are rolling in for people who went out and bought Z10s already, without checking with us for compatibility. ** ** Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] ** ** *From:* Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk si...@sembee.co.uk] *Sent:* Monday, April 01, 2013 12:27 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 ** ** Blackberry and Exchange 2013 is a mess. ** ** As things stand, today (could all change tomorrow)… ** ** You can use BES 10 with Exchange 2013 without any issues because it uses ActiveSync for the final connection to Exchange. You can also use BES 10 with Exchange 2010, using the MAPI CDO just as you can with BES 5.x. You can use the same account as BES 5 with your BES 10, but you cannot install BES 10 on the same server as BES 5.x For BES 5 to Exchange 2013, you need the latest service pack (5.0.4) plus MR2 (or later) and the latest MAPI CDO. Anyone doing anything with MAPI CDO should monitor this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/stephen_griffin/archive/2013/02/28/exchange-2013-compatible-mapicdo.aspx ** ** As an aside, BES 10 is actually three bits: BDS (Blackberry Device Service) – this is for Blackberry 10 devices only and is effectively BES 6.2 UDS (Universal Device Service) – this is for Android (with Touchdown) and iPhone. BMC (Blackberry Management Console) – this provides a simple user interface which gives you a single interface for the two above and a BES 5 installation (including BES Express). The idea is that day to day you can use the management console. ** ** BES 10 has effectively become just a MDM, as you can connect a BES 10 device straight to Exchange using ActiveSync. There is also no need for a special data plan, as it uses regular data, but that means your data use will go up because it doesn’t go through the Blackberry network which compresses the data. It is a very good MDM though and Balance looks like a winner. ** ** It isn’t a 10 minute install for all the parts either, you need to do it in the order the documentation says. However if you aren’t going to add iPhones and Android to it, then just install BDM, which is just as easy as BES 5. ** ** On the subject of the data plan – that depends on your provider. I have heard some are just allowing it, others require additional subscriptions. I think my three rules of Microsoft licencing rule might work here – ask three times, get four different answers, get the response in writing and the most expensive solution will be the correct one. ** ** Of course over here in the UK we have had Blackberry 10 for a little longer than the US, so some of this is “old” news
Re: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
What if your a Good for enterprise SHOP and no EAS? Do you have two MDM to support Z10, or can you use Good for Android? Z10 support androids apps? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Adm sms...@gmail.com wrote: Does Zenprise (now Citrix) support the BB10? Or Windows OS phones? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: Exactly!... ** ** So, now the question will be do we connect them to the BES server or run them just using EAS? We’ve got the EAS policies for iDevices and Droids, so it wouldn’t be hard to massage them to fit BBs. We’re also using Zenprise. ** ** Everyone into the pool! ** ** : ) ** ** With some of the heavy users, I can see the data part of it, mentioned by Simon, to be a possible factor. ** ** Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] ** ** *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 01, 2013 1:38 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 ** ** Byod at its best ))) ** ** *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2013 1:31 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 ** ** I just setup a Z10, using straight EAS, as a test. If you are tying down EAS using the device’s S/N (similar to a Droid or iDevice) it uses an ID that is a combination of “BB” and the device PIN. ** ** “BB123AB1A1”, for example. ** ** A coworker of mine is standing up a BES 10 server in the next week or two (Exch2k7 shop). Tickets are rolling in for people who went out and bought Z10s already, without checking with us for compatibility. ** ** Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] ** ** *From:* Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk si...@sembee.co.uk] *Sent:* Monday, April 01, 2013 12:27 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 ** ** Blackberry and Exchange 2013 is a mess. ** ** As things stand, today (could all change tomorrow)… ** ** You can use BES 10 with Exchange 2013 without any issues because it uses ActiveSync for the final connection to Exchange. You can also use BES 10 with Exchange 2010, using the MAPI CDO just as you can with BES 5.x. You can use the same account as BES 5 with your BES 10, but you cannot install BES 10 on the same server as BES 5.x For BES 5 to Exchange 2013, you need the latest service pack (5.0.4) plus MR2 (or later) and the latest MAPI CDO. Anyone doing anything with MAPI CDO should monitor this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/stephen_griffin/archive/2013/02/28/exchange-2013-compatible-mapicdo.aspx ** ** As an aside, BES 10 is actually three bits: BDS (Blackberry Device Service) – this is for Blackberry 10 devices only and is effectively BES 6.2 UDS (Universal Device Service) – this is for Android (with Touchdown) and iPhone. BMC (Blackberry Management Console) – this provides a simple user interface which gives you a single interface for the two above and a BES 5 installation (including BES Express). The idea is that day to day you can use the management console. ** ** BES 10 has effectively become just a MDM, as you can connect a BES 10 device straight to Exchange using ActiveSync. There is also no need for a special data plan, as it uses regular data, but that means your data use will go up because it doesn’t go through the Blackberry network which compresses the data. It is a very good MDM though and Balance looks like a winner. ** ** It isn’t a 10 minute install for all the parts either, you need to do it in the order the documentation says. However if you aren’t going to add iPhones and Android to it, then just install BDM, which is just as easy as BES 5. ** ** On the subject of the data plan – that depends on your provider. I have heard some are just allowing it, others require additional subscriptions. I think my three rules of Microsoft licencing rule might work here – ask three times, get four different answers, get the response
Re: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
My friends in the healthcare field says BYOD means Bring your own Disaster. On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:27 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote: What if your a Good for enterprise SHOP and no EAS? Do you have two MDM to support Z10, or can you use Good for Android? Z10 support androids apps? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Adm sms...@gmail.com wrote: Does Zenprise (now Citrix) support the BB10? Or Windows OS phones? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: Exactly!... ** ** So, now the question will be do we connect them to the BES server or run them just using EAS? We’ve got the EAS policies for iDevices and Droids, so it wouldn’t be hard to massage them to fit BBs. We’re also using Zenprise. ** ** Everyone into the pool! ** ** : ) ** ** With some of the heavy users, I can see the data part of it, mentioned by Simon, to be a possible factor. ** ** Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] ** ** *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 01, 2013 1:38 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 ** ** Byod at its best ))) ** ** *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2013 1:31 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 ** ** I just setup a Z10, using straight EAS, as a test. If you are tying down EAS using the device’s S/N (similar to a Droid or iDevice) it uses an ID that is a combination of “BB” and the device PIN. ** ** “BB123AB1A1”, for example. ** ** A coworker of mine is standing up a BES 10 server in the next week or two (Exch2k7 shop). Tickets are rolling in for people who went out and bought Z10s already, without checking with us for compatibility. ** ** Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] ** ** *From:* Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk si...@sembee.co.uk] *Sent:* Monday, April 01, 2013 12:27 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 ** ** Blackberry and Exchange 2013 is a mess. ** ** As things stand, today (could all change tomorrow)… ** ** You can use BES 10 with Exchange 2013 without any issues because it uses ActiveSync for the final connection to Exchange. You can also use BES 10 with Exchange 2010, using the MAPI CDO just as you can with BES 5.x. You can use the same account as BES 5 with your BES 10, but you cannot install BES 10 on the same server as BES 5.x For BES 5 to Exchange 2013, you need the latest service pack (5.0.4) plus MR2 (or later) and the latest MAPI CDO. Anyone doing anything with MAPI CDO should monitor this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/stephen_griffin/archive/2013/02/28/exchange-2013-compatible-mapicdo.aspx ** ** As an aside, BES 10 is actually three bits: BDS (Blackberry Device Service) – this is for Blackberry 10 devices only and is effectively BES 6.2 UDS (Universal Device Service) – this is for Android (with Touchdown) and iPhone. BMC (Blackberry Management Console) – this provides a simple user interface which gives you a single interface for the two above and a BES 5 installation (including BES Express). The idea is that day to day you can use the management console. ** ** BES 10 has effectively become just a MDM, as you can connect a BES 10 device straight to Exchange using ActiveSync. There is also no need for a special data plan, as it uses regular data, but that means your data use will go up because it doesn’t go through the Blackberry network which compresses the data. It is a very good MDM though and Balance looks like a winner. ** ** It isn’t a 10 minute install for all the parts either, you need to do it in the order the documentation says. However if you aren’t going to add iPhones and Android to it, then just install BDM, which is just as easy as BES 5. ** ** On the subject of the data plan – that depends on your provider. I have heard some are just allowing it, others
RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
That depends... We allow BYOD but, they sign a waiver essentially granting us control of the device. Most of our employees who use mobile devices do use corporate owned devices. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE2EE8.D58274B0] From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 2:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 My friends in the healthcare field says BYOD means Bring your own Disaster. On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:27 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: What if your a Good for enterprise SHOP and no EAS? Do you have two MDM to support Z10, or can you use Good for Android? Z10 support androids apps? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Adm sms...@gmail.commailto:sms...@gmail.com wrote: Does Zenprise (now Citrix) support the BB10? Or Windows OS phones? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org wrote: Exactly!... So, now the question will be do we connect them to the BES server or run them just using EAS? We've got the EAS policies for iDevices and Droids, so it wouldn't be hard to massage them to fit BBs. We're also using Zenprise. Everyone into the pool! : ) With some of the heavy users, I can see the data part of it, mentioned by Simon, to be a possible factor. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595tel:610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528tel:610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440tel:610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839tel:610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE2EE8.D58274B0] From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Byod at its best ))) From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 I just setup a Z10, using straight EAS, as a test. If you are tying down EAS using the device's S/N (similar to a Droid or iDevice) it uses an ID that is a combination of BB and the device PIN. BB123AB1A1, for example. A coworker of mine is standing up a BES 10 server in the next week or two (Exch2k7 shop). Tickets are rolling in for people who went out and bought Z10s already, without checking with us for compatibility. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595tel:610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528tel:610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440tel:610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839tel:610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE2EE8.D58274B0] From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Blackberry and Exchange 2013 is a mess. As things stand, today (could all change tomorrow)... You can use BES 10 with Exchange 2013 without any issues because it uses ActiveSync for the final connection to Exchange. You can also use BES 10 with Exchange 2010, using the MAPI CDO just as you can with BES 5.x. You can use the same account as BES 5 with your BES 10, but you cannot install BES 10 on the same server as BES 5.x For BES 5 to Exchange 2013, you need the latest service pack (5.0.4) plus MR2 (or later) and the latest MAPI CDO. Anyone doing anything with MAPI CDO should monitor this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/stephen_griffin/archive/2013/02/28/exchange-2013-compatible-mapicdo.aspx As an aside, BES 10 is actually three bits: BDS (Blackberry Device Service) - this is for Blackberry 10 devices only and is effectively BES 6.2 UDS (Universal Device Service) - this is for Android (with Touchdown) and iPhone. BMC (Blackberry Management Console) - this provides a simple user interface which gives you a single interface for the two above and a BES 5 installation (including BES Express). The idea is that day to day you can use the management console. BES 10 has effectively become just a MDM, as you can connect a BES 10 device straight to Exchange using ActiveSync. There is also no need for a special data plan, as it uses regular data, but that means your
RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10
It supports Windows phones but, I'm not sure about BB10 yet. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE2EE9.918D7E70] From: Adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Does Zenprise (now Citrix) support the BB10? Or Windows OS phones? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org wrote: Exactly!... So, now the question will be do we connect them to the BES server or run them just using EAS? We've got the EAS policies for iDevices and Droids, so it wouldn't be hard to massage them to fit BBs. We're also using Zenprise. Everyone into the pool! : ) With some of the heavy users, I can see the data part of it, mentioned by Simon, to be a possible factor. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595tel:610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528tel:610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440tel:610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839tel:610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE2EE9.918D7E70] From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Byod at its best ))) From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 I just setup a Z10, using straight EAS, as a test. If you are tying down EAS using the device's S/N (similar to a Droid or iDevice) it uses an ID that is a combination of BB and the device PIN. BB123AB1A1, for example. A coworker of mine is standing up a BES 10 server in the next week or two (Exch2k7 shop). Tickets are rolling in for people who went out and bought Z10s already, without checking with us for compatibility. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595tel:610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528tel:610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440tel:610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839tel:610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE2EE9.918D7E70] From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2013 + BES 10 Blackberry and Exchange 2013 is a mess. As things stand, today (could all change tomorrow)... You can use BES 10 with Exchange 2013 without any issues because it uses ActiveSync for the final connection to Exchange. You can also use BES 10 with Exchange 2010, using the MAPI CDO just as you can with BES 5.x. You can use the same account as BES 5 with your BES 10, but you cannot install BES 10 on the same server as BES 5.x For BES 5 to Exchange 2013, you need the latest service pack (5.0.4) plus MR2 (or later) and the latest MAPI CDO. Anyone doing anything with MAPI CDO should monitor this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/stephen_griffin/archive/2013/02/28/exchange-2013-compatible-mapicdo.aspx As an aside, BES 10 is actually three bits: BDS (Blackberry Device Service) - this is for Blackberry 10 devices only and is effectively BES 6.2 UDS (Universal Device Service) - this is for Android (with Touchdown) and iPhone. BMC (Blackberry Management Console) - this provides a simple user interface which gives you a single interface for the two above and a BES 5 installation (including BES Express). The idea is that day to day you can use the management console. BES 10 has effectively become just a MDM, as you can connect a BES 10 device straight to Exchange using ActiveSync. There is also no need for a special data plan, as it uses regular data, but that means your data use will go up because it doesn't go through the Blackberry network which compresses the data. It is a very good MDM though and Balance looks like a winner. It isn't a 10 minute install for all the parts either, you need to do it in the order the documentation says. However if you aren't going to add iPhones and Android to it, then just install BDM, which is just as easy as BES 5. On the subject of the data plan - that depends on your provider. I have heard some are just allowing it, others require additional subscriptions. I think my
