RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options: Part 2

2008-01-28 Thread N Parr
How many out there are not even using front end security for OWA?  I
don't use it on my home OWA and haven't had problems, just run a
firewall/router that protects against DOS type attacks.  Keep your IIS
hardened and passwords strong, https, etc.

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RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread William Lefkovics
Your statement was ambiguous Andy.  It was not clear whether his network or
ISA was crap.

I came. ISA. I conquered.

Besides, I think ISA is more secure in its own "DMZ".

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Sorry, Troy.  Have you heard of that new thing called 'sarcasm'?

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Oh geez not this crap again.

Let the ISA [EMAIL PROTECTED] go full throttle.



-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Actually, don't put ISA on your network b\c its CRAP!

Shook

-Original Message-
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Don't put the ISA in a DMZ. More secure in the domain.

S

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your easiest
and best solution to your immediate issue.  VPN or SSL VPN is good but I
would look at that as an addition to rather than a replacement for a simple
ISA published OWA. A simple web address for a quick check of email while at
a hotel can't be beat for user friendly.

And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ.




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RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
Isa does the FBA Auth for you and can use many Auth methods between itself & 
the exchange box. It also publishes http/rpc securely. In fact it publishes all 
of exchange's services securely.

S

-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Front end security is something that if someone decides to attack OWA
they aren't able to attack my Exchange box directly, they will only be
attacking the device that authenticates you then passes you off to the
actually web server on the exchange box.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

SSL Explorer is "free" and easy to use.

But I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "front-end security".

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options

I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems and
is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a front
end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there would
be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting the
world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
Thanks
Niles

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RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Andy Shook
Sorry, Troy.  Have you heard of that new thing called 'sarcasm'?

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Oh geez not this crap again.

Let the ISA [EMAIL PROTECTED] go full throttle.



-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Actually, don't put ISA on your network b\c its CRAP!

Shook

-Original Message-
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Don't put the ISA in a DMZ. More secure in the domain.

S

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your
easiest and best solution to your immediate issue.  VPN or SSL VPN is
good but I would look at that as an addition to rather than a
replacement for a simple ISA published OWA. A simple web address for a
quick check of email while at a hotel can't be beat for user friendly.

And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ.



> -Original Message-
> From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
> Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems
and
> is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a
> front
> end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
> simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
> something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
> currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there
> would
> be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting
the
> world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Niles
>
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RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Tom Strader
master = master-bater 

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Andy is a master.  Learn from him.

(someone owes me a beer for this set up)


On Jan 25, 2008 1:26 PM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Sorry, Troy.  Have you heard of that new thing called 'sarcasm'?
>
> Andy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:22 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> Oh geez not this crap again.
>
> Let the ISA [EMAIL PROTECTED] go full throttle.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:16 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> Actually, don't put ISA on your network b\c its CRAP!
>
> Shook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Exchange
> (Sunbelt)
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:15 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> Don't put the ISA in a DMZ. More secure in the domain.
>
> S
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:07 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your
> easiest and best solution to your immediate issue.  VPN or SSL VPN is
> good but I would look at that as an addition to rather than a
> replacement for a simple ISA published OWA. A simple web address for a
> quick check of email while at a hotel can't be beat for user friendly.
>
> And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ.
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options
> >
> > I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
> > Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems
> and
> > is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a
> > front
> > end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want
a
> > simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play
if
> > something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
> > currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there
> > would
> > be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting
> the
> > world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
> > Thanks
> > Niles
> >
> > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Andy is a master.  Learn from him.

(someone owes me a beer for this set up)


On Jan 25, 2008 1:26 PM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, Troy.  Have you heard of that new thing called 'sarcasm'?
>
> Andy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:22 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> Oh geez not this crap again.
>
> Let the ISA [EMAIL PROTECTED] go full throttle.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:16 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> Actually, don't put ISA on your network b\c its CRAP!
>
> Shook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Exchange
> (Sunbelt)
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:15 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> Don't put the ISA in a DMZ. More secure in the domain.
>
> S
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:07 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your
> easiest and best solution to your immediate issue.  VPN or SSL VPN is
> good but I would look at that as an addition to rather than a
> replacement for a simple ISA published OWA. A simple web address for a
> quick check of email while at a hotel can't be beat for user friendly.
>
> And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ.
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options
> >
> > I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
> > Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems
> and
> > is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a
> > front
> > end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
> > simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
> > something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
> > currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there
> > would
> > be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting
> the
> > world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
> > Thanks
> > Niles
> >
> > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
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> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
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> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
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RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Andy David
Much of the way a "front-end" works changes in Exch 2007.
Regardless, I think your best option is some sort reverse proxy if you really 
do not want people accessing any of your Exch servers directly.


-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Front end security is something that if someone decides to attack OWA
they aren't able to attack my Exchange box directly, they will only be
attacking the device that authenticates you then passes you off to the
actually web server on the exchange box.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

SSL Explorer is "free" and easy to use.

But I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "front-end security".

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options

I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems and
is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a front
end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there would
be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting the
world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
Thanks
Niles

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RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Don Andrews
Gee, sounds like a reason to put ISA in the DMZ and not make it a domain
member ;)

-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Front end security is something that if someone decides to attack OWA
they aren't able to attack my Exchange box directly, they will only be
attacking the device that authenticates you then passes you off to the
actually web server on the exchange box. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

SSL Explorer is "free" and easy to use.

But I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "front-end security".

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options

I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems and
is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a front
end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there would
be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting the
world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
Thanks
Niles

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Re: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imperial_March


On Jan 25, 2008 1:22 PM, Troy Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh geez not this crap again.
>
> Let the ISA [EMAIL PROTECTED] go full throttle.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:16 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> Actually, don't put ISA on your network b\c its CRAP!
>
> Shook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Exchange
> (Sunbelt)
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:15 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> Don't put the ISA in a DMZ. More secure in the domain.
>
> S
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:07 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your
> easiest and best solution to your immediate issue.  VPN or SSL VPN is
> good but I would look at that as an addition to rather than a
> replacement for a simple ISA published OWA. A simple web address for a
> quick check of email while at a hotel can't be beat for user friendly.
>
> And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ.
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options
> >
> > I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
> > Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems
> and
> > is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a
> > front
> > end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
> > simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
> > something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
> > currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there
> > would
> > be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting
> the
> > world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
> > Thanks
> > Niles
> >
> > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
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> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
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Re: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
ooo, 'dems fightin' werds!

On Jan 25, 2008 1:16 PM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, don't put ISA on your network b\c its CRAP!
>
> Shook
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Exchange
> (Sunbelt)
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:15 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> Don't put the ISA in a DMZ. More secure in the domain.
>
> S
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:07 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your
> easiest and best solution to your immediate issue.  VPN or SSL VPN is
> good but I would look at that as an addition to rather than a
> replacement for a simple ISA published OWA. A simple web address for a
> quick check of email while at a hotel can't be beat for user friendly.
>
> And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ.
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options
> >
> > I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
> > Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems
> and
> > is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a
> > front
> > end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
> > simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
> > something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
> > currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there
> > would
> > be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting
> the
> > world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
> > Thanks
> > Niles
> >
> > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
>



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RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Matt Lathrum
What would you recommend instead?


-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Actually, don't put ISA on your network b\c its CRAP!

Shook

-Original Message-
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Don't put the ISA in a DMZ. More secure in the domain.

S

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your
easiest and best solution to your immediate issue.  VPN or SSL VPN is
good but I would look at that as an addition to rather than a
replacement for a simple ISA published OWA. A simple web address for a
quick check of email while at a hotel can't be beat for user friendly.

And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ.



> -Original Message-
> From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
> Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems
and
> is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a
> front
> end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
> simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
> something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
> currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there
> would
> be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting
the
> world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Niles
>
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> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

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RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread N Parr
Front end security is something that if someone decides to attack OWA
they aren't able to attack my Exchange box directly, they will only be
attacking the device that authenticates you then passes you off to the
actually web server on the exchange box. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

SSL Explorer is "free" and easy to use.

But I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "front-end security".

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options

I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems and
is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a front
end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there would
be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting the
world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
Thanks
Niles

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RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Troy Meyer
Oh geez not this crap again.

Let the ISA [EMAIL PROTECTED] go full throttle.



-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Actually, don't put ISA on your network b\c its CRAP!

Shook

-Original Message-
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Don't put the ISA in a DMZ. More secure in the domain.

S

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your
easiest and best solution to your immediate issue.  VPN or SSL VPN is
good but I would look at that as an addition to rather than a
replacement for a simple ISA published OWA. A simple web address for a
quick check of email while at a hotel can't be beat for user friendly.

And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ.



> -Original Message-
> From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
> Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems
and
> is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a
> front
> end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
> simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
> something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
> currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there
> would
> be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting
the
> world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Niles
>
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
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RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Andy Shook
Actually, don't put ISA on your network b\c its CRAP!

Shook

-Original Message-
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

Don't put the ISA in a DMZ. More secure in the domain.

S

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your
easiest and best solution to your immediate issue.  VPN or SSL VPN is
good but I would look at that as an addition to rather than a
replacement for a simple ISA published OWA. A simple web address for a
quick check of email while at a hotel can't be beat for user friendly.

And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ.



> -Original Message-
> From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
> Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems
and
> is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a
> front
> end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
> simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
> something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
> currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there
> would
> be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting
the
> world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Niles
>
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

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RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
Don't put the ISA in a DMZ. More secure in the domain.

S

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your easiest 
and best solution to your immediate issue.  VPN or SSL VPN is good but I would 
look at that as an addition to rather than a replacement for a simple ISA 
published OWA. A simple web address for a quick check of email while at a hotel 
can't be beat for user friendly.

And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ.



> -Original Message-
> From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
> Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems and
> is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a
> front
> end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
> simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
> something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
> currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there
> would
> be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting the
> world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Niles
>
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Kennedy, Jim
I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your easiest 
and best solution to your immediate issue.  VPN or SSL VPN is good but I would 
look at that as an addition to rather than a replacement for a simple ISA 
published OWA. A simple web address for a quick check of email while at a hotel 
can't be beat for user friendly.

And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ.



> -Original Message-
> From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options
>
> I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
> Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems and
> is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a
> front
> end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
> simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
> something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
> currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there
> would
> be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting the
> world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Niles
>
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options

2008-01-25 Thread Michael B. Smith
SSL Explorer is "free" and easy to use.

But I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "front-end security".

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options

I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA.  We had a
Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems and
is way past end of life.  I know there are a lot of options like a front
end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc.  I kind of want a
simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if
something like that exists.  I can't support web based SSL VPN
currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there would
be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have.  Am I wanting the
world and not wanting to pay for it here?  Any ideas?
Thanks
Niles

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


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