RE: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Brent Hudson

One of the plus sides to our ECT Bill (recently passed..)..(we won't mention the 
namespace controle though...)

B



-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 July 2002 23:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Help with SPAM!


What this tells me is that it's perfectly legal, except in some
jurisdictions, in which neither Eric nor his company reside.

And pending?  We can only hope.  Pending laws are called bills, and they
don't make a whit of difference.  There are bills to legalize marijuana,
and bills to allow the recording industry to browse your hard drive too.
They're not law, though.

> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 04:15 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Help with SPAM!
> 
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=Illegal+to+s
> poof+spam+addr
> ess&spell=1
> 
> Federal law is still pending, but many state laws have been 
> put into place:
> 
> http://www.spamlaws.com/state/summary.html
> 
> 
> 
> "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
> message news:280098@exchangelist...
> 
> Illegal?  Cite, please.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 03:28 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Help with SPAM!
> >
> >
> > You can spoof ANY from address. That does not make it accurate. It 
> > would also be illegal for them to do so.
> >

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RE: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread David N. Precht
Title: Message



Sounds 
like Klez

  
  -Original Message-From: Eric Brouwer 
  (Corporate DET) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 
  July 29, 2002 16:18To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  Help with SPAM!
  I 
  thought I had buttoned up my Exchange server, but it appears I am wrong.  
  Exchange 5.5, Sp 4 on NT 4.0 Sp 6a.  I don't know if you will be able to 
  see the header for the message I attached or not, but if you can look at it, 
  I'd appreciate some insight!
   
  Someone is sending SPAM to me, that looks like it is coming from 
  me.  Is that a relay?  How can I test if it is possible, and more 
  importantly, how can I fix it???
   
  Your 
  help will be most appreciated!  And if it is bad form forwarding a SPAM, 
  I sincerely apologize!
   
  Eric
  
  -Original Message-From: Eric Brouwer 
  (Corporate DET) Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:32 AMTo: 
  Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)Subject: Lowest Mortgage Rates 
  Around
  
  


   
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RE: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Tom Meunier

What this tells me is that it's perfectly legal, except in some
jurisdictions, in which neither Eric nor his company reside.

And pending?  We can only hope.  Pending laws are called bills, and they
don't make a whit of difference.  There are bills to legalize marijuana,
and bills to allow the recording industry to browse your hard drive too.
They're not law, though.

> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 04:15 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Help with SPAM!
> 
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=Illegal+to+s
> poof+spam+addr
> ess&spell=1
> 
> Federal law is still pending, but many state laws have been 
> put into place:
> 
> http://www.spamlaws.com/state/summary.html
> 
> 
> 
> "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
> message news:280098@exchangelist...
> 
> Illegal?  Cite, please.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 03:28 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Help with SPAM!
> >
> >
> > You can spoof ANY from address. That does not make it accurate. It 
> > would also be illegal for them to do so.
> >

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RE: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Schwartz, Jim
Title: Message



Interesting to note that if you don't secure your AS/400 it will relay 
just a well as a misconfigured Exchange or Sendmail box. So much for relay proof 
out of the box.

  
  -Original Message-From: Purviance, Chad 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 
  5:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Help 
  with SPAM!
  
  Unfortunately 
  no. As I mentioned 
  earlier, this is the method for someone else to get the 
  complaint.
  Now as for 
  bad??
  
The reply address 
is  [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is probably a 
collector of good addresses IE they hit reply to complain and the real 
sender validate it as a good address. 
The first server appears to be 
from a host at 202.110.213.141 bounced off an open relay at 206.162.177.235. 
I am not taking the time to research, but you can at www.samspade.org if you 
like. 
   
  With the reply being 
  a .RU I is another fine piece of Asia SPAM ... not the canned 
  variety.
   
  Unfortunately, your 
  best bet may be to prepare a canned response stating the e-mail didn't 
  originate from you and the real information can be found in the header. The 
  chances of getting off their list is minimal, this is how they make their 
  money.
   
  CJP
   
   
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 
  29, 2002 
  3:38 
  PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Help with 
  SPAM!
   
  
  I can 
  accept that, but with my limited header knowledge, this looks bad.  I 
  managed to get a copy of it:
  
   
  
  Received: from 
  TESTMAIL.BERCOQC.COM (ftp.bercoqc.com 
  [206.162.177.235]) by mailhost.vgreen.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange 
  Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id PH40J5HA; 
  Sun, 28 Jul 
  2002 
  19:49:15 -0400Received: 
  from onemails5018.com([202.110.213.141]) by TESTMAIL.BERCOQC.COM (IBM OS/400 
  SMTP V05R01M00) with TCP; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:46:49 -0500From: "ebrouwer" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
      [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
      [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
      [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],     [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
      [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Sun, 
  28 Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0700Subject: Retire Early -- Earn Easy Online 
  IncomeMIME-Version: 1.0X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 
  6.00.2600.X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE 
  V6.00.2600.X-Precedence-Ref: 
  l234056789zxcvbnmlkjhgfqwrtContent-Type: text/html; 
  charset=us-asciiContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  
  I know 
  this message went out to the CC list, as I got an OOO notice from one of the 
  addressees.  Is there anyhting I can do about this???
  
   
  
  Eric
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Purviance, Chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:29 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Help 
with SPAM!
Yes, 
It can be sent to anyone as if it is coming from you on the FROM: line, and 
no you can't prevent it because SMTP doesn't require proof of sender. BUT, 
if they look at the headers they will see it never touches your server so 
you can at least prove it wasn't you. This unfortunately is a very common 
method to get the nasty responses sent to someone 
else.
 
Chad 
P.
 
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 
29, 2002 
3:25 
    PMTo: 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Help with 
SPAM!
 

As 
long as it's just coming to me and my company I can live with it.  Can 
it be sent to others outside my server and look like it's coming from 
me???
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Re: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=Illegal+to+spoof+spam+addr
ess&spell=1

Federal law is still pending, but many state laws have been put into place:

http://www.spamlaws.com/state/summary.html



"Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:280098@exchangelist...

Illegal?  Cite, please.

> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 03:28 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Help with SPAM!
>
>
> You can spoof ANY from address. That does not make it
> accurate. It would also be illegal for them to do so.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:24 PM
> Subject: RE: Help with SPAM!
>
> As long as it's just coming to me and my company I can
> live with it.  Can it be sent to others outside my server and
> look like it's coming from me???
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:23 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Help with SPAM!
>
>
> heh
>
> You can not stop SPAM..
>
> This is a very common spoof, no biggee. The
> only way to help curb SPAM is a 3rd party app, like Mail
> Marshall, Mail Essentials, or Praetor.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:17 PM
> Subject: Help with SPAM!
>
> I thought I had buttoned up my Exchange
> server, but it appears I am wrong.  Exchange 5.5, Sp 4 on NT
> 4.0 Sp 6a.  I don't know if you will be able to see the
> header for the message I attached or not, but if you can look
> at it, I'd appreciate some insight!
>
> Someone is sending SPAM to me, that
> looks like it is coming from me.  Is that a relay?  How can I
> test if it is possible, and more importantly, how can I fix it???
>
> Your help will be most appreciated!
> And if it is bad form forwarding a SPAM, I sincerely apologize!
>
> Eric
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:32 AM
> To: Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)
> Subject: Lowest Mortgage Rates Around
>
>
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RE: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)
Title: Message



Thank 
you very much!

  
  -Original Message-From: Purviance, Chad 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 
  5:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Help 
  with SPAM!
  
  Unfortunately 
  no. As I mentioned 
  earlier, this is the method for someone else to get the 
  complaint.
  Now as for 
  bad??
  
The reply address 
is  [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is probably a 
collector of good addresses IE they hit reply to complain and the real 
sender validate it as a good address. 
The first server appears to be 
from a host at 202.110.213.141 bounced off an open relay at 206.162.177.235. 
I am not taking the time to research, but you can at www.samspade.org if you 
like. 
   
  With the reply being 
  a .RU I is another fine piece of Asia SPAM ... not the canned 
  variety.
   
  Unfortunately, your 
  best bet may be to prepare a canned response stating the e-mail didn't 
  originate from you and the real information can be found in the header. The 
  chances of getting off their list is minimal, this is how they make their 
  money.
   
  CJP
   
   
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 
  29, 2002 
  3:38 
  PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Help with 
  SPAM!
   
  
  I can 
  accept that, but with my limited header knowledge, this looks bad.  I 
  managed to get a copy of it:
  
   
  
  Received: from 
  TESTMAIL.BERCOQC.COM (ftp.bercoqc.com 
  [206.162.177.235]) by mailhost.vgreen.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange 
  Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id PH40J5HA; 
  Sun, 28 Jul 
  2002 
  19:49:15 -0400Received: 
  from onemails5018.com([202.110.213.141]) by TESTMAIL.BERCOQC.COM (IBM OS/400 
  SMTP V05R01M00) with TCP; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:46:49 -0500From: "ebrouwer" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
      [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
      [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
      [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],     [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
      [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Sun, 
  28 Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0700Subject: Retire Early -- Earn Easy Online 
  IncomeMIME-Version: 1.0X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 
  6.00.2600.X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE 
  V6.00.2600.X-Precedence-Ref: 
  l234056789zxcvbnmlkjhgfqwrtContent-Type: text/html; 
  charset=us-asciiContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  
  I know 
  this message went out to the CC list, as I got an OOO notice from one of the 
  addressees.  Is there anyhting I can do about this???
  
   
  
  Eric
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Purviance, Chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:29 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Help 
with SPAM!
Yes, 
It can be sent to anyone as if it is coming from you on the FROM: line, and 
no you can't prevent it because SMTP doesn't require proof of sender. BUT, 
if they look at the headers they will see it never touches your server so 
you can at least prove it wasn't you. This unfortunately is a very common 
method to get the nasty responses sent to someone 
else.
 
Chad 
P.
 
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 
29, 2002 
3:25 
PMTo: 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Help with 
SPAM!
 

As 
long as it's just coming to me and my company I can live with it.  Can 
it be sent to others outside my server and look like it's coming from 
me???
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RE: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Purviance, Chad
Title: Message









Unfortunately no. As I mentioned earlier, this is the method for someone else to get
the complaint.

Now as for bad??


 The reply address is  [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is probably a
 collector of good addresses IE they hit reply to complain and the real
 sender validate it as a good address.
 The first server appears to be from a host at 202.110.213.141
 bounced off an open relay at 206.162.177.235. I am not taking the time to research,
 but you can at www.samspade.org if you
 like.


 

With the reply being a .RU I is another fine
piece of Asia SPAM ... not the canned variety.

 

Unfortunately, your best bet may be to prepare
a canned response stating the e-mail didn't originate from you and the real
information can be found in the header. The chances of getting off their list is
minimal, this is how they make their money.

 

CJP

 

 

 

-Original
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 29,
 2002 3:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Help with SPAM!

 



I can accept that, but
with my limited header knowledge, this looks bad.  I managed to get a copy
of it:





 





Received: from
TESTMAIL.BERCOQC.COM (ftp.bercoqc.com
[206.162.177.235]) by mailhost.vgreen.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange
Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13)
 id PH40J5HA; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:49:15 -0400
Received: from onemails5018.com([202.110.213.141]) by TESTMAIL.BERCOQC.COM (IBM
OS/400 SMTP V05R01M00) with TCP; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:46:49 -0500
From: "ebrouwer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0700
Subject: Retire Early -- Earn Easy Online Income
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.
X-Precedence-Ref: l234056789zxcvbnmlkjhgfqwrt
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit





I know this message went
out to the CC list, as I got an OOO notice from one of the addressees.  Is
there anyhting I can do about this???





 





Eric





-Original
Message-
From: Purviance, Chad
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:29
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Help with SPAM!

Yes, It can be sent to
anyone as if it is coming from you on the FROM: line, and no you can't prevent
it because SMTP doesn't require proof of sender. BUT, if they look at the
headers they will see it never touches your server so you can at least prove it
wasn't you. This unfortunately is a very common method to get the nasty
responses sent to someone else.

 

Chad P.

 

-Original
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 29,
 2002 3:25 PM
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Help with SPAM!

 



As long
as it's just coming to me and my company I can live with it.  Can it be
sent to others outside my server and look like it's coming from me???



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RE: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Tom Meunier

Illegal?  Cite, please.

> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 03:28 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Help with SPAM!
> 
> 
> You can spoof ANY from address. That does not make it 
> accurate. It would also be illegal for them to do so.
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET) 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>       Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:24 PM
>   Subject: RE: Help with SPAM!
> 
>   As long as it's just coming to me and my company I can 
> live with it.  Can it be sent to others outside my server and 
> look like it's coming from me???
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>   Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:23 PM
>   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>   Subject: Re: Help with SPAM!
>   
>   
>   heh
>
>   You can not stop SPAM..
>
>   This is a very common spoof, no biggee. The 
> only way to help curb SPAM is a 3rd party app, like Mail 
> Marshall, Mail Essentials, or Praetor.
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET) 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>   Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:17 PM
>   Subject: Help with SPAM!
> 
>   I thought I had buttoned up my Exchange 
> server, but it appears I am wrong.  Exchange 5.5, Sp 4 on NT 
> 4.0 Sp 6a.  I don't know if you will be able to see the 
> header for the message I attached or not, but if you can look 
> at it, I'd appreciate some insight!
>
>   Someone is sending SPAM to me, that 
> looks like it is coming from me.  Is that a relay?  How can I 
> test if it is possible, and more importantly, how can I fix it???
>
>   Your help will be most appreciated!  
> And if it is bad form forwarding a SPAM, I sincerely apologize!
>
>   Eric
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET) 
>   Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:32 AM
>   To: Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)
>   Subject: Lowest Mortgage Rates Around
>   
>   
>  <http://xnet.123alias.com/images/headline.gif> 
> 
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> <http://xnet.123alias.com/index.php>  
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> simplify your life
>  <http://xnet.123alias.com/images/button_red.gif> 
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> get extra cash
>  <http://xnet.123alias.com/images/button_red.gif> 
> Purchase a home <http://xnet.123alias.com/index.php>  
> there's never been a better time  
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RE: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)
Title: Message



I can 
accept that, but with my limited header knowledge, this looks bad.  I 
managed to get a copy of it:
 
Received: from TESTMAIL.BERCOQC.COM (ftp.bercoqc.com [206.162.177.235]) by 
mailhost.vgreen.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 
5.5.2653.13) id PH40J5HA; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:49:15 -0400Received: 
from onemails5018.com([202.110.213.141]) by TESTMAIL.BERCOQC.COM (IBM OS/400 
SMTP V05R01M00) with TCP; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:46:49 -0500From: "ebrouwer" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],     
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],     
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],     [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Sun, 28 
Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0700Subject: Retire Early -- Earn Easy Online 
IncomeMIME-Version: 1.0X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 
6.00.2600.X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE 
V6.00.2600.X-Precedence-Ref: 
l234056789zxcvbnmlkjhgfqwrtContent-Type: text/html; 
charset=us-asciiContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I know 
this message went out to the CC list, as I got an OOO notice from one of the 
addressees.  Is there anyhting I can do about this???
 
Eric

  
  -Original Message-From: Purviance, Chad 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 
  4:29 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Help 
  with SPAM!
  
  Yes, It can be sent to anyone as if it is coming from you on the 
  FROM: line, and no you can't prevent it because SMTP doesn't require proof of 
  sender. BUT, if they look at the headers they will see it never touches your 
  server so you can at least prove it wasn't you. This unfortunately is a very 
  common method to get the nasty responses sent to someone 
  else.
   
  Chad 
  P.
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 
  29, 2002 
  3:25 
  PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Help with 
  SPAM!
   
  
  As long 
  as it's just coming to me and my company I can live with it.  Can it be 
  sent to others outside my server and look like it's coming from 
  me???
  -Original 
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RE: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Purviance, Chad
Title: Message









Yes, It can be
sent to anyone as if it is coming from you on the FROM: line, and no you can't
prevent it because SMTP doesn't require proof of sender. BUT, if they
look at the headers they will see it never touches your server so you can at
least prove it wasn't you. This unfortunately is a very common method to
get the nasty responses sent to someone else.

 

Chad P.

 

-Original
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 29,
 2002 3:25 PM
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Help with SPAM!

 



As long as it's just
coming to me and my company I can live with it.  Can it be sent to others
outside my server and look like it's coming from me???



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Re: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Title: Message



You can spoof ANY from address. That does not make 
it accurate. It would also be illegal for them to do so.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET) 

  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:24 PM
  Subject: RE: Help with SPAM!
  
  As 
  long as it's just coming to me and my company I can live with it.  Can it 
  be sent to others outside my server and look like it's coming from 
  me???
  

-Original Message-From: Matthew 
Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 
2002 4:23 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: 
    Help with SPAM!
heh
 
You can not stop SPAM..
 
This is a very common spoof, no biggee. The 
only way to help curb SPAM is a 3rd party app, like Mail Marshall, Mail 
Essentials, or Praetor.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET) 
  
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:17 
  PM
  Subject: Help with SPAM!
  
  I thought I had buttoned up my Exchange server, but it appears I am 
  wrong.  Exchange 5.5, Sp 4 on NT 4.0 Sp 6a.  I don't know if you 
  will be able to see the header for the message I attached or not, but if 
  you can look at it, I'd appreciate some insight!
   
  Someone is sending SPAM to me, that looks like it is coming from 
  me.  Is that a relay?  How can I test if it is possible, and 
  more importantly, how can I fix it???
   
  Your help will be most appreciated!  And if it is bad form 
  forwarding a SPAM, I sincerely apologize!
   
  Eric
  
  -Original Message-From: Eric Brouwer 
  (Corporate DET) Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:32 
  AMTo: Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)Subject: Lowest 
  Mortgage Rates Around
  
  


   
We can 
help find the perfect mortgage for you. Just click on the option 
below that best meets your needs: 


  
  
  

  
Refinance your 
  existing mortgage lower your payments

  

  
Consolidate your 
  debt simplify your life
  

  
Home Equity 
  financing get extra cash
  

  
Purchase a 
  home there's never been a better 
  time
  


Here's how it 
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qualified to meet your needs. Up to three lenders will then contact 
you and compete for your business. The search is free and 
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started 
now! 
  
  
  
  
  


  
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RE: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)
Title: Message



As 
long as it's just coming to me and my company I can live with it.  Can it 
be sent to others outside my server and look like it's coming from 
me???

  
  -Original Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 
  4:23 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Help 
  with SPAM!
  heh
   
  You can not stop SPAM..
   
  This is a very common spoof, no biggee. The only 
  way to help curb SPAM is a 3rd party app, like Mail Marshall, Mail Essentials, 
  or Praetor.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET) 

To: MS-Exchange Admin 
Issues 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:17 
PM
Subject: Help with SPAM!

I 
thought I had buttoned up my Exchange server, but it appears I am 
wrong.  Exchange 5.5, Sp 4 on NT 4.0 Sp 6a.  I don't know if you 
will be able to see the header for the message I attached or not, but if you 
can look at it, I'd appreciate some insight!
 
Someone is sending SPAM to me, that looks like it is coming from 
me.  Is that a relay?  How can I test if it is possible, and more 
importantly, how can I fix it???
 
Your help will be most appreciated!  And if it is bad form 
forwarding a SPAM, I sincerely apologize!
 
Eric

-Original Message-From: Eric Brouwer 
(Corporate DET) Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:32 
AMTo: Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)Subject: Lowest 
Mortgage Rates Around


  
  
 
  We can help 
  find the perfect mortgage for you. Just click on the option below that 
  best meets your needs: 
  
  



  

  Refinance your 
existing mortgage lower your payments
  

  

  Consolidate your 
debt simplify your life

  

  Home Equity 
financing get extra cash

  

  Purchase a 
home there's never been a better 
  time

  
  
  Here's how it 
  works... After completing a short form, we will automatically sort 
  through our database of over 2700 lenders to find the ones most 
  qualified to meet your needs. Up to three lenders will then contact 
  you and compete for your business. The search is free and 
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Re: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Title: Message



heh
 
You can not stop SPAM..
 
This is a very common spoof, no biggee. The only 
way to help curb SPAM is a 3rd party app, like Mail Marshall, Mail Essentials, 
or Praetor.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET) 

  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:17 PM
  Subject: Help with SPAM!
  
  I 
  thought I had buttoned up my Exchange server, but it appears I am wrong.  
  Exchange 5.5, Sp 4 on NT 4.0 Sp 6a.  I don't know if you will be able to 
  see the header for the message I attached or not, but if you can look at it, 
  I'd appreciate some insight!
   
  Someone is sending SPAM to me, that looks like it is coming from 
  me.  Is that a relay?  How can I test if it is possible, and more 
  importantly, how can I fix it???
   
  Your 
  help will be most appreciated!  And if it is bad form forwarding a SPAM, 
  I sincerely apologize!
   
  Eric
  
  -Original Message-From: Eric Brouwer 
  (Corporate DET) Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:32 AMTo: 
  Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)Subject: Lowest Mortgage Rates 
  Around
  
  


   
We can help 
find the perfect mortgage for you. Just click on the option below that 
best meets your needs: 


  
  
  

  
Refinance your existing 
  mortgage lower your payments

  

  
Consolidate your 
  debt simplify your life
  

  
Home Equity 
  financing get extra cash
  

  
Purchase a 
  home there's never been a better 
time
  


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works... After completing a short form, we will automatically sort 
through our database of over 2700 lenders to find the ones most 
qualified to meet your needs. Up to three lenders will then contact you 
and compete for your business. The search is free and there's 
no obligation to continue. It's that easy, so click here to get 
started now! 
  
  
  
  
  


  
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RE: Help with SPAM!

2002-07-29 Thread Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)
Title: Message



It 
doesn't look like the original header info was included.  Is there a way to 
extract that info and send just that?  I am using Outlook XP for my 
client.
Eric

  
  -Original Message-From: Eric Brouwer 
  (Corporate DET) Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:18 PMTo: 
  MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Help with 
  SPAM!
  I 
  thought I had buttoned up my Exchange server, but it appears I am wrong.  
  Exchange 5.5, Sp 4 on NT 4.0 Sp 6a.  I don't know if you will be able to 
  see the header for the message I attached or not, but if you can look at it, 
  I'd appreciate some insight!
   
  Someone is sending SPAM to me, that looks like it is coming from 
  me.  Is that a relay?  How can I test if it is possible, and more 
  importantly, how can I fix it???
   
  Your 
  help will be most appreciated!  And if it is bad form forwarding a SPAM, 
  I sincerely apologize!
   
  Eric
  
  -Original Message-From: Eric Brouwer 
  (Corporate DET) Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:32 AMTo: 
  Eric Brouwer (Corporate DET)Subject: Lowest Mortgage Rates 
  Around
  
  


   
We can help 
find the perfect mortgage for you. Just click on the option below that 
best meets your needs: 


  
  
  

  
Refinance your existing 
  mortgage lower your payments

  

  
Consolidate your 
  debt simplify your life
  

  
Home Equity 
  financing get extra cash
  

  
Purchase a 
  home there's never been a better 
time
  


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qualified to meet your needs. Up to three lenders will then contact you 
and compete for your business. The search is free and there's 
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