RE: New Exchange Install
Title: Message I'm still not convinced I'd put 2000 users on a single server. Anyway, if that's what you've got, then the first thing that springs to mind is disk space. If your disks are 36Gb disks, then a very rough calculation reveals that 2000 users would have around a max mailbox of 36Mb each, so you'll have to control resources carefully. This doesn't take into account SIS, etc. Also, you may want to consider getting E2k Enterprise and configuring a single storage group with 3 mailbox stores and a public folder store. That way, you'd have around 900 users per store, and still be able to create a new store should you experience any problems with an existing store. You'd simply be able to move the mailboxes across from one store to another (although 900 would be quite a task). I'd consider your DR scenario carefully too. How quick will you be able to restore the service for 2000 users? I agree with your disk plan for 7 disks, though. The key is to separate the logs and databases as always. Neil -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 18 June 2002 13:52Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange ListConversation: New Exchange InstallSubject: New Exchange Install Hello everybody,just looking for a little guidance/insight on a new project im looking atdoing. i have exchange 5.5 running at 3 different companies andunderstand how it works, etc.for the college that i work for, they want me to deploy a exchange 2000server that will host 2000 mail accounts. i just need some guidance ofwhere i should go to design our server for this many users and how to setup exchange. i wanted to split the users onto a couple servers but moneydoesnt allow this right now.this is the hardware i have to work with. i have a dell 6400 with dualPIII 1.0ghz xeons with 2 megs of cache. i have 3 gigs of ram and 7 harddrives to work with with a perc RAID controller. i was going to configureraid 1 for the OS and another RAID 1 set for the log files, then use thelast 3 drives in a raid 5 config for the databases.i have some whitepapers from microsoft on how to set up the server withthat many users but they dont really get into details. any help isgreatly appreciated!thanks for your time,Bob C.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
RE: New Exchange Install
We have a very similar setup for our students. About 2000 users. We limit their storage to 15mb. I only had 6 drives to work with. Drives are: 18gb raid 1 for OS and logs. I split it into 2 9gb partitions. 1 for os and the other for logs. 4 18gb raid 5 for database. I dont know if this is the optimal performance setup but it has worked just fine for us. It is on a single processor 933 with 1.5gb of ram. We even had a drive fail during the first week of operation and it didnt miss a beat. Storage groups are split into a group of classes. Databases are spilt up into the class year. Storage group: 2001-2005 Databases: Classof2001 Classof2002 Classof2003 Classof2004 Classof2005 Storage group: 2006-2010 Databases: etc. Also, if you are running Advanced Server, check out this article about having more then 1gb of ram. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q266096 -Original Message- From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: New Exchange Install Hello everybody, just looking for a little guidance/insight on a new project im looking at doing. i have exchange 5.5 running at 3 different companies and understand how it works, etc. for the college that i work for, they want me to deploy a exchange 2000 server that will host 2000 mail accounts. i just need some guidance of where i should go to design our server for this many users and how to set up exchange. i wanted to split the users onto a couple servers but money doesnt allow this right now. this is the hardware i have to work with. i have a dell 6400 with dual PIII 1.0ghz xeons with 2 megs of cache. i have 3 gigs of ram and 7 hard drives to work with with a perc RAID controller. i was going to configure raid 1 for the OS and another RAID 1 set for the log files, then use the last 3 drives in a raid 5 config for the databases. i have some whitepapers from microsoft on how to set up the server with that many users but they dont really get into details. any help is greatly appreciated! thanks for your time, Bob C. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: New Exchange Install
thanks for the information. yes i am running advanced server with enterprise exchange...ill review your info.. thanks again...are you running exchange 2000? Bob C. - Original Message - From: Rogers, Michael J. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: RE: New Exchange Install We have a very similar setup for our students. About 2000 users. We limit their storage to 15mb. I only had 6 drives to work with. Drives are: 18gb raid 1 for OS and logs. I split it into 2 9gb partitions. 1 for os and the other for logs. 4 18gb raid 5 for database. I dont know if this is the optimal performance setup but it has worked just fine for us. It is on a single processor 933 with 1.5gb of ram. We even had a drive fail during the first week of operation and it didnt miss a beat. Storage groups are split into a group of classes. Databases are spilt up into the class year. Storage group: 2001-2005 Databases: Classof2001 Classof2002 Classof2003 Classof2004 Classof2005 Storage group: 2006-2010 Databases: etc . Also, if you are running Advanced Server, check out this article about having more then 1gb of ram. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q266096 -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: New Exchange Install Hello everybody,just looking for a little guidance/insight on a new project im looking atdoing. i have exchange 5.5 running at 3 different companies andunderstand how it works, etc.for the college that i work for, they want me to deploy a exchange 2000server that will host 2000 mail accounts. i just need some guidance ofwhere i should go to design our server for this many users and how to setup exchange. i wanted to split the users onto a couple servers but moneydoesnt allow this right now.this is the hardware i have to work with. i have a dell 6400 with dualPIII 1.0ghz xeons with 2 megs of cache. i have 3 gigs of ram and 7 harddrives to work with with a perc RAID controller. i was going to configureraid 1 for the OS and another RAID 1 set for the log files, then use thelast 3 drives in a raid 5 config for the databases.i have some whitepapers from microsoft on how to set up the server withthat many users but they dont really get into details. any help isgreatly appreciated!thanks for your time,Bob C. List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: New Exchange Install
Title: Message yes i totally agree with the 2000 on a single server...nothing i can do for about a yearthanks for the insight i am reviewing your info right now.. thanks again.. Bob C. - Original Message - From: Neil Hobson To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: RE: New Exchange Install I'm still not convinced I'd put 2000 users on a single server. Anyway, if that's what you've got, then the first thing that springs to mind is disk space. If your disks are 36Gb disks, then a very rough calculation reveals that 2000 users would have around a max mailbox of 36Mb each, so you'll have to control resources carefully. This doesn't take into account SIS, etc. Also, you may want to consider getting E2k Enterprise and configuring a single storage group with 3 mailbox stores and a public folder store. That way, you'd have around 900 users per store, and still be able to create a new store should you experience any problems with an existing store. You'd simply be able to move the mailboxes across from one store to another (although 900 would be quite a task). I'd consider your DR scenario carefully too. How quick will you be able to restore the service for 2000 users? I agree with your disk plan for 7 disks, though. The key is to separate the logs and databases as always. Neil -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 18 June 2002 13:52Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange ListConversation: New Exchange InstallSubject: New Exchange Install Hello everybody,just looking for a little guidance/insight on a new project im looking atdoing. i have exchange 5.5 running at 3 different companies andunderstand how it works, etc.for the college that i work for, they want me to deploy a exchange 2000server that will host 2000 mail accounts. i just need some guidance ofwhere i should go to design our server for this many users and how to setup exchange. i wanted to split the users onto a couple servers but moneydoesnt allow this right now.this is the hardware i have to work with. i have a dell 6400 with dualPIII 1.0ghz xeons with 2 megs of cache. i have 3 gigs of ram and 7 harddrives to work with with a perc RAID controller. i was going to configureraid 1 for the OS and another RAID 1 set for the log files, then use thelast 3 drives in a raid 5 config for the databases.i have some whitepapers from microsoft on how to set up the server withthat many users but they dont really get into details. any help isgreatly appreciated!thanks for your time,Bob C.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: New Exchange Install
4 drives on the Raid 5 definitely sounds better, but what to do with that 7th drive? maybe you could put in with the 2 OS disk and make another raid 5? maybe later, funding permitting, you could add a 4th to the OS set. Those spares are going to be important since its all running on server. Nick -Original Message-From: Rogers, Michael J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:19 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New Exchange Install We have a very similar setup for our students. About 2000 users. We limit their storage to 15mb. I only had 6 drives to work with. Drives are: 18gb raid 1 for OS and logs. I split it into 2 9gb partitions. 1 for os and the other for logs. 4 18gb raid 5 for database. I don't know if this is the optimal performance setup but it has worked just fine for us. It is on a single processor 933 with 1.5gb of ram. We even had a drive fail during the first week of operation and it didn't miss a beat. Storage groups are split into a group of classes. Databases are spilt up into the class year. Storage group: 2001-2005 Databases: Classof2001 Classof2002 Classof2003 Classof2004 Classof2005 Storage group: 2006-2010 Databases: etc Also, if you are running Advanced Server, check out this article about having more then 1gb of ram. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q266096 -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: New Exchange Install Hello everybody,just looking for a little guidance/insight on a new project im looking atdoing. i have exchange 5.5 running at 3 different companies andunderstand how it works, etc.for the college that i work for, they want me to deploy a exchange 2000server that will host 2000 mail accounts. i just need some guidance ofwhere i should go to design our server for this many users and how to setup exchange. i wanted to split the users onto a couple servers but moneydoesnt allow this right now.this is the hardware i have to work with. i have a dell 6400 with dualPIII 1.0ghz xeons with 2 megs of cache. i have 3 gigs of ram and 7 harddrives to work with with a perc RAID controller. i was going to configureraid 1 for the OS and another RAID 1 set for the log files, then use thelast 3 drives in a raid 5 config for the databases.i have some whitepapers from microsoft on how to set up the server withthat many users but they dont really get into details. any help isgreatly appreciated!thanks for your time,Bob C. List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: New Exchange Install
Or add the extra drive the the Raid 5 thats used for the store...you can do that right? please excuse my ignorancebut imp new at this... :) Nick -Original Message-From: Nickolaos Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 5:28 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New Exchange Install 4 drives on the Raid 5 definitely sounds better, but what to do with that 7th drive? maybe you could put in with the 2 OS disk and make another raid 5? maybe later, funding permitting, you could add a 4th to the OS set. Those spares are going to be important since its all running on server. Nick -Original Message-From: Rogers, Michael J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:19 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New Exchange Install We have a very similar setup for our students. About 2000 users. We limit their storage to 15mb. I only had 6 drives to work with. Drives are: 18gb raid 1 for OS and logs. I split it into 2 9gb partitions. 1 for os and the other for logs. 4 18gb raid 5 for database. I don't know if this is the optimal performance setup but it has worked just fine for us. It is on a single processor 933 with 1.5gb of ram. We even had a drive fail during the first week of operation and it didn't miss a beat. Storage groups are split into a group of classes. Databases are spilt up into the class year. Storage group: 2001-2005 Databases: Classof2001 Classof2002 Classof2003 Classof2004 Classof2005 Storage group: 2006-2010 Databases: etc Also, if you are running Advanced Server, check out this article about having more then 1gb of ram. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q266096 -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: New Exchange Install Hello everybody,just looking for a little guidance/insight on a new project im looking atdoing. i have exchange 5.5 running at 3 different companies andunderstand how it works, etc.for the college that i work for, they want me to deploy a exchange 2000server that will host 2000 mail accounts. i just need some guidance ofwhere i should go to design our server for this many users and how to setup exchange. i wanted to split the users onto a couple servers but moneydoesnt allow this right now.this is the hardware i have to work with. i have a dell 6400 with dualPIII 1.0ghz xeons with 2 megs of cache. i have 3 gigs of ram and 7 harddrives to work with with a perc RAID controller. i was going to configureraid 1 for the OS and another RAID 1 set for the log files, then use thelast 3 drives in a raid 5 config for the databases.i have some whitepapers from microsoft on how to set up the server withthat many users but they dont really get into details. any help isgreatly appreciated!thanks for your time,Bob C. List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
