RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
Sothis is a regression failure (i.e., bug) for the GUI install. The next update of the prereq XML used by the GUI install will fix it. Thanks for bringing it up. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Confirmed: using the CLI checks for the hotfixes and the install is abandoned if they aren't present. The GUI does not check. Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9080382-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9080382-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Sobey, Richard A Sent: 31 August 2010 12:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes No problem at all. I only found this out because I was testing that new install required features button in SP1, hoping that it might download and install these pre-reqs for me. I was surprised as any that it worked, if I'm honest! I've got another server to install, I'll try it from the CLI this time and see what difference it makes. Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 31 August 2010 11:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Honestly, I only tested it from the command prompt; but I did have the article reviewed by someone at MSFT before I posted it. I'll give it a go too, and if you are right, I'll update my post. Thanks for the heads up. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Michael, In this blog post, you state: You cannot install Exchange 2010 SP1 without first installing a handful of hotfixes. This is a hard-block in the Exchange setup program, which means that if the hotfixes are not detected, the setup program will abort. This is not true - let me tell you why I think so. I just installed a 2010 SP1 server with the HT role. During setup (GUI based) I selected the option to download the necessary OS updates and features, and the installation went without a hitch. Afterwards, I manually ran the installer for each of the five hotfixes and only one of them claimed to already be installed. So it seems that although they are required for a supported installation of Exchange, Exchange will still install without them. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 30 August 2010 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
Michael, In this blog post, you state: You cannot install Exchange 2010 SP1 without first installing a handful of hotfixes. This is a hard-block in the Exchange setup program, which means that if the hotfixes are not detected, the setup program will abort. This is not true - let me tell you why I think so. I just installed a 2010 SP1 server with the HT role. During setup (GUI based) I selected the option to download the necessary OS updates and features, and the installation went without a hitch. Afterwards, I manually ran the installer for each of the five hotfixes and only one of them claimed to already be installed. So it seems that although they are required for a supported installation of Exchange, Exchange will still install without them. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 30 August 2010 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: r.so...@imperial.ac.uk. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8066756.9febed890ee85dde9c1acc56d9f7b4abn=Tl=exchangelisto=9079428 or send a blank email to leave-9079428-8066756.9febed890ee85dde9c1acc56d9f7b...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
Honestly, I only tested it from the command prompt; but I did have the article reviewed by someone at MSFT before I posted it. I'll give it a go too, and if you are right, I'll update my post. Thanks for the heads up. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Michael, In this blog post, you state: You cannot install Exchange 2010 SP1 without first installing a handful of hotfixes. This is a hard-block in the Exchange setup program, which means that if the hotfixes are not detected, the setup program will abort. This is not true - let me tell you why I think so. I just installed a 2010 SP1 server with the HT role. During setup (GUI based) I selected the option to download the necessary OS updates and features, and the installation went without a hitch. Afterwards, I manually ran the installer for each of the five hotfixes and only one of them claimed to already be installed. So it seems that although they are required for a supported installation of Exchange, Exchange will still install without them. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 30 August 2010 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
No problem at all. I only found this out because I was testing that new install required features button in SP1, hoping that it might download and install these pre-reqs for me. I was surprised as any that it worked, if I'm honest! I've got another server to install, I'll try it from the CLI this time and see what difference it makes. Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 31 August 2010 11:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Honestly, I only tested it from the command prompt; but I did have the article reviewed by someone at MSFT before I posted it. I'll give it a go too, and if you are right, I'll update my post. Thanks for the heads up. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Michael, In this blog post, you state: You cannot install Exchange 2010 SP1 without first installing a handful of hotfixes. This is a hard-block in the Exchange setup program, which means that if the hotfixes are not detected, the setup program will abort. This is not true - let me tell you why I think so. I just installed a 2010 SP1 server with the HT role. During setup (GUI based) I selected the option to download the necessary OS updates and features, and the installation went without a hitch. Afterwards, I manually ran the installer for each of the five hotfixes and only one of them claimed to already be installed. So it seems that although they are required for a supported installation of Exchange, Exchange will still install without them. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 30 August 2010 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
Confirmed: using the CLI checks for the hotfixes and the install is abandoned if they aren't present. The GUI does not check. Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9080382-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9080382-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Sobey, Richard A Sent: 31 August 2010 12:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes No problem at all. I only found this out because I was testing that new install required features button in SP1, hoping that it might download and install these pre-reqs for me. I was surprised as any that it worked, if I'm honest! I've got another server to install, I'll try it from the CLI this time and see what difference it makes. Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 31 August 2010 11:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Honestly, I only tested it from the command prompt; but I did have the article reviewed by someone at MSFT before I posted it. I'll give it a go too, and if you are right, I'll update my post. Thanks for the heads up. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Michael, In this blog post, you state: You cannot install Exchange 2010 SP1 without first installing a handful of hotfixes. This is a hard-block in the Exchange setup program, which means that if the hotfixes are not detected, the setup program will abort. This is not true - let me tell you why I think so. I just installed a 2010 SP1 server with the HT role. During setup (GUI based) I selected the option to download the necessary OS updates and features, and the installation went without a hitch. Afterwards, I manually ran the installer for each of the five hotfixes and only one of them claimed to already be installed. So it seems that although they are required for a supported installation of Exchange, Exchange will still install without them. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 30 August 2010 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
I would love to know how long it takes the average admin to install this thing. From A-Z. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes No problem at all. I only found this out because I was testing that new install required features button in SP1, hoping that it might download and install these pre-reqs for me. I was surprised as any that it worked, if I'm honest! I've got another server to install, I'll try it from the CLI this time and see what difference it makes. Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 31 August 2010 11:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Honestly, I only tested it from the command prompt; but I did have the article reviewed by someone at MSFT before I posted it. I'll give it a go too, and if you are right, I'll update my post. Thanks for the heads up. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Michael, In this blog post, you state: You cannot install Exchange 2010 SP1 without first installing a handful of hotfixes. This is a hard-block in the Exchange setup program, which means that if the hotfixes are not detected, the setup program will abort. This is not true - let me tell you why I think so. I just installed a 2010 SP1 server with the HT role. During setup (GUI based) I selected the option to download the necessary OS updates and features, and the installation went without a hitch. Afterwards, I manually ran the installer for each of the five hotfixes and only one of them claimed to already be installed. So it seems that although they are required for a supported installation of Exchange, Exchange will still install without them. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 30 August 2010 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2 010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
The first time I did the install, I had a half-dozen other things going on (including the patch downloads and accumulation) and it took me about 2 hours. Now, depending on the server, it's under an hour (I note that CAS seems to take longer than anything else). I'm guessing the average admin, who only has one or two servers, and isn't really comfortable with the process - it's going to take him or her 4 - 6 hours. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes I would love to know how long it takes the average admin to install this thing. From A-Z. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes No problem at all. I only found this out because I was testing that new install required features button in SP1, hoping that it might download and install these pre-reqs for me. I was surprised as any that it worked, if I'm honest! I've got another server to install, I'll try it from the CLI this time and see what difference it makes. Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 31 August 2010 11:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Honestly, I only tested it from the command prompt; but I did have the article reviewed by someone at MSFT before I posted it. I'll give it a go too, and if you are right, I'll update my post. Thanks for the heads up. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Michael, In this blog post, you state: You cannot install Exchange 2010 SP1 without first installing a handful of hotfixes. This is a hard-block in the Exchange setup program, which means that if the hotfixes are not detected, the setup program will abort. This is not true - let me tell you why I think so. I just installed a 2010 SP1 server with the HT role. During setup (GUI based) I selected the option to download the necessary OS updates and features, and the installation went without a hitch. Afterwards, I manually ran the installer for each of the five hotfixes and only one of them claimed to already be installed. So it seems that although they are required for a supported installation of Exchange, Exchange will still install without them. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 30 August 2010 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2 010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
Oh, and I had two Microsoft people point out that on Windows Server 2003 and pre-Windows 2008 sp2, Exchange 2007 also required updates - there was a .Net 2.0 specific update and MMC 3.0 and a Windows Installer update. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes The first time I did the install, I had a half-dozen other things going on (including the patch downloads and accumulation) and it took me about 2 hours. Now, depending on the server, it's under an hour (I note that CAS seems to take longer than anything else). I'm guessing the average admin, who only has one or two servers, and isn't really comfortable with the process - it's going to take him or her 4 - 6 hours. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes I would love to know how long it takes the average admin to install this thing. From A-Z. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes No problem at all. I only found this out because I was testing that new install required features button in SP1, hoping that it might download and install these pre-reqs for me. I was surprised as any that it worked, if I'm honest! I've got another server to install, I'll try it from the CLI this time and see what difference it makes. Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 31 August 2010 11:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Honestly, I only tested it from the command prompt; but I did have the article reviewed by someone at MSFT before I posted it. I'll give it a go too, and if you are right, I'll update my post. Thanks for the heads up. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Michael, In this blog post, you state: You cannot install Exchange 2010 SP1 without first installing a handful of hotfixes. This is a hard-block in the Exchange setup program, which means that if the hotfixes are not detected, the setup program will abort. This is not true - let me tell you why I think so. I just installed a 2010 SP1 server with the HT role. During setup (GUI based) I selected the option to download the necessary OS updates and features, and the installation went without a hitch. Afterwards, I manually ran the installer for each of the five hotfixes and only one of them claimed to already be installed. So it seems that although they are required for a supported installation of Exchange, Exchange will still install without them. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 30 August 2010 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2 010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums
RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
I can only complain about one thing at a time! :) -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Oh, and I had two Microsoft people point out that on Windows Server 2003 and pre-Windows 2008 sp2, Exchange 2007 also required updates - there was a .Net 2.0 specific update and MMC 3.0 and a Windows Installer update. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes The first time I did the install, I had a half-dozen other things going on (including the patch downloads and accumulation) and it took me about 2 hours. Now, depending on the server, it's under an hour (I note that CAS seems to take longer than anything else). I'm guessing the average admin, who only has one or two servers, and isn't really comfortable with the process - it's going to take him or her 4 - 6 hours. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes I would love to know how long it takes the average admin to install this thing. From A-Z. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes No problem at all. I only found this out because I was testing that new install required features button in SP1, hoping that it might download and install these pre-reqs for me. I was surprised as any that it worked, if I'm honest! I've got another server to install, I'll try it from the CLI this time and see what difference it makes. Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 31 August 2010 11:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Honestly, I only tested it from the command prompt; but I did have the article reviewed by someone at MSFT before I posted it. I'll give it a go too, and if you are right, I'll update my post. Thanks for the heads up. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Michael, In this blog post, you state: You cannot install Exchange 2010 SP1 without first installing a handful of hotfixes. This is a hard-block in the Exchange setup program, which means that if the hotfixes are not detected, the setup program will abort. This is not true - let me tell you why I think so. I just installed a 2010 SP1 server with the HT role. During setup (GUI based) I selected the option to download the necessary OS updates and features, and the installation went without a hitch. Afterwards, I manually ran the installer for each of the five hotfixes and only one of them claimed to already be installed. So it seems that although they are required for a supported installation of Exchange, Exchange will still install without them. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 30 August 2010 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2 010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage
RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
The Service Pack, or Exchange 2010? We've been going slow, setting Exch 2010 up in our lab, including setting up a DMZ, Edge Transport, TMG, etc. We've been working on it for about a week now. I obviously don't expect the production install to take this long, but there are tons of little nuances that you need to make sure you have correct during the install/config. Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com 8/31/2010 6:16 AM I would love to know how long it takes the average admin to install this thing. From A-Z. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes No problem at all. I only found this out because I was testing that new install required features button in SP1, hoping that it might download and install these pre-reqs for me. I was surprised as any that it worked, if I'm honest! I've got another server to install, I'll try it from the CLI this time and see what difference it makes. Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9080375-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 31 August 2010 11:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Honestly, I only tested it from the command prompt; but I did have the article reviewed by someone at MSFT before I posted it. I'll give it a go too, and if you are right, I'll update my post. Thanks for the heads up. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Michael, In this blog post, you state: You cannot install Exchange 2010 SP1 without first installing a handful of hotfixes. This is a hard-block in the Exchange setup program, which means that if the hotfixes are not detected, the setup program will abort. This is not true - let me tell you why I think so. I just installed a 2010 SP1 server with the HT role. During setup (GUI based) I selected the option to download the necessary OS updates and features, and the installation went without a hitch. Afterwards, I manually ran the installer for each of the five hotfixes and only one of them claimed to already be installed. So it seems that although they are required for a supported installation of Exchange, Exchange will still install without them. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9079428-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 30 August 2010 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2 010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
This doesn't effect us (yet) since we're on Exchange 2007, but I'm curious as to why they weren't just rolled into the service pack if they are going to be required anyway. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: arch...@mail-archive.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8142876.1678b53fdef861a9e8adf304b808c1e6n=Tl=exchangelisto=9079484 or send a blank email to leave-9079484-8142876.1678b53fdef861a9e8adf304b808c...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Re: New blog post: Exchange 2010 Service Pack 1 and Required Hotfixes
Sorry, answered my own question by looking at your blog a second time: There is some question about why these fixes aren't available on WSUS or Microsoft Update; and the answer is simple: these are not security related fixes, *they are not Exchange fixes*, and they will not affect every single Microsoft server installation. However, they *are* known to affect Exchange and thus need to be installed on Exchange servers. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.comwrote: This doesn't effect us (yet) since we're on Exchange 2007, but I'm curious as to why they weren't just rolled into the service pack if they are going to be required anyway. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Of some general interest, I think: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/08/30/exchange-2010-service-pack-1-and-required-hotfixes.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: arch...@mail-archive.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8142876.1678b53fdef861a9e8adf304b808c1e6n=Tl=exchangelisto=9079488 or send a blank email to leave-9079488-8142876.1678b53fdef861a9e8adf304b808c...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
