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How does Ed.com push it to you? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give In our setup, our Exchange server is our primary MX. our Secondary MX is pointing to a server at ed-com.com. If our server is unable to accept mail for us (either due to internet down, or server down, or whatever), mail is sent to ed-com.com. Ed-com.com sends the mail to us later -- there's nothing we have to do to pull it down. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Once you embrace the fact that most folks in the world don't get it, you waste a lot less time trying to teach pigs to dance. -Cthulhu Jones, June 2000 - -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give If the line/ IP is unavail, the mail is queued. If I don't pop the mail, it stays there. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give OK, you don't need ETRN or POP in this case. The ISP will deliver the mail on its own without you having to poll it. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Space shuttles cannot manoeuver like the Millenium Falcon, I don't care if it is the new XR-71 model with the go-faster stripes. - Shaun Salter on the movie Armageddon - -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Server is online all the time, DSL is sketchy. The primary MX is set to my firewall. However, if the DSL service is down or I reboot the router, mail will not be delivered. In the past, I had the ISP deliver the mail to my primary MX when it is avail. If it is not avail, it is delivered to the second record in the MX record - my ISP. In turn, I pull the mail using the POP connector. This only happens in rare occasions but it provides for failover if the circuit is dead. My plan is to continue with the SMTP config but would like to configure ETRN as the backup rather than deal with the shortcomings of the POP connector. Thanks. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Steve Not sure what you mean here - the way I get it..smtp mail incoming to your domain will queue at your service provider until it receives a signal from your mail server to pump all the mail for yourdomain.com to your exchange machine (after establishing dialup or whatever) - in this case then the etrn setup will work fine. If this is not the case can you describe your setup a little better. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 14:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Already read this - no new information. SMTP mail is the primary, ETRN is the secondary. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member
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Thank you. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give In a normal environment when you send mail it will try the first mx and if it fails it will go to second and so on. If it goes to the second then that server should automatically keep trying the first mx until the message times out. It does try it in intervals though so you may find messages will not come in the mooment that the line comes back, but they should come. If they do not then I would speak to your ISP techies about it. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 October 2001 13:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give How does Ed.com push it to you? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give In our setup, our Exchange server is our primary MX. our Secondary MX is pointing to a server at ed-com.com. If our server is unable to accept mail for us (either due to internet down, or server down, or whatever), mail is sent to ed-com.com. Ed-com.com sends the mail to us later -- there's nothing we have to do to pull it down. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Once you embrace the fact that most folks in the world don't get it, you waste a lot less time trying to teach pigs to dance. -Cthulhu Jones, June 2000 - -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give If the line/ IP is unavail, the mail is queued. If I don't pop the mail, it stays there. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give OK, you don't need ETRN or POP in this case. The ISP will deliver the mail on its own without you having to poll it. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Space shuttles cannot manoeuver like the Millenium Falcon, I don't care if it is the new XR-71 model with the go-faster stripes. - Shaun Salter on the movie Armageddon - -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Server is online all the time, DSL is sketchy. The primary MX is set to my firewall. However, if the DSL service is down or I reboot the router, mail will not be delivered. In the past, I had the ISP deliver the mail to my primary MX when it is avail. If it is not avail, it is delivered to the second record in the MX record - my ISP. In turn, I pull the mail using the POP connector. This only happens in rare occasions but it provides for failover if the circuit is dead. My plan is to continue with the SMTP config but would like to configure ETRN as the backup rather than deal with the shortcomings of the POP connector. Thanks. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com
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Steve Why do you need to use etrn at all? - Your MX records should be primary - your firewall then secondary your ISP - if your primary is not there then it will go to secondary who will keep trying primary by itself until the messages expire. There is only the need for ETRN if you need the messages delivered immediately once the link is back, otherwise they will deliver on their own. Hope this is helpful Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 05:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Server is online all the time, DSL is sketchy. The primary MX is set to my firewall. However, if the DSL service is down or I reboot the router, mail will not be delivered. In the past, I had the ISP deliver the mail to my primary MX when it is avail. If it is not avail, it is delivered to the second record in the MX record - my ISP. In turn, I pull the mail using the POP connector. This only happens in rare occasions but it provides for failover if the circuit is dead. My plan is to continue with the SMTP config but would like to configure ETRN as the backup rather than deal with the shortcomings of the POP connector. Thanks. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Steve Not sure what you mean here - the way I get it..smtp mail incoming to your domain will queue at your service provider until it receives a signal from your mail server to pump all the mail for yourdomain.com to your exchange machine (after establishing dialup or whatever) - in this case then the etrn setup will work fine. If this is not the case can you describe your setup a little better. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 14:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Already read this - no new information. SMTP mail is the primary, ETRN is the secondary. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give additional info here: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp.htm -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Which wire was I supposed to cut? - Famous Last Words - -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Hi Steve - sorry for the way this reads, but I cut n pasted it out of 2 previous posts. It should help you with your issue. I have had a similar situation where I used a util called etrn which polls the store and forward server for you - I just put this into a batch file which did the dialup and then ran this - you give it a host and port to connect to and shibang it goes off and gets it. After looking there is an MS solution aswell, but the above is wonderfully simple. The MS solution is under http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims. asp This was a while ago before we got an all singing all dancing T1 connection installed and we had to rely on isdn which I used for the mail retrieval. - it went something like this (from very rusty memory do forgive mistakes) Rasdial (connection you want) Wait ( this is another util that is useful for pausing the batch file so that it has time to make the link) etrn /address=mail.myisp.net /port=SMTP /ehlo=mail.mydomain.co.uk /etrn=@mydomain.co.uk, @mynextdomain.com /auto /min Then disconnect the ras connection and you should be in business /address=mail server Address of mail server to send ETRN command to /port=portPort to send command to. Usually SMTP (25) /ehlo=domain EHLO command argument
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do you have a static IP? Is your line monitored? If the answer is yes then you probably have a bandwidth issue. How much of your bandwidth is being used when problems happen. Check to see what happens to your bandwidth is used (send a 5 meg file). I think it is time to change ISP or get more bandwidth. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Server is online all the time, DSL is sketchy. The primary MX is set to my firewall. However, if the DSL service is down or I reboot the router, mail will not be delivered. In the past, I had the ISP deliver the mail to my primary MX when it is avail. If it is not avail, it is delivered to the second record in the MX record - my ISP. In turn, I pull the mail using the POP connector. This only happens in rare occasions but it provides for failover if the circuit is dead. My plan is to continue with the SMTP config but would like to configure ETRN as the backup rather than deal with the shortcomings of the POP connector. Thanks. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Steve Not sure what you mean here - the way I get it..smtp mail incoming to your domain will queue at your service provider until it receives a signal from your mail server to pump all the mail for yourdomain.com to your exchange machine (after establishing dialup or whatever) - in this case then the etrn setup will work fine. If this is not the case can you describe your setup a little better. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 14:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Already read this - no new information. SMTP mail is the primary, ETRN is the secondary. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give additional info here: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp.htm -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Which wire was I supposed to cut? - Famous Last Words - -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Hi Steve - sorry for the way this reads, but I cut n pasted it out of 2 previous posts. It should help you with your issue. I have had a similar situation where I used a util called etrn which polls the store and forward server for you - I just put this into a batch file which did the dialup and then ran this - you give it a host and port to connect to and shibang it goes off and gets it. After looking there is an MS solution aswell, but the above is wonderfully simple. The MS solution is under http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims. asp This was a while ago before we got an all singing all dancing T1 connection installed and we had to rely on isdn which I used for the mail retrieval. - it went something like this (from very rusty memory do forgive mistakes) Rasdial (connection you want) Wait ( this is another util that is useful for pausing the batch file so that it has time to make the link) etrn /address=mail.myisp.net /port=SMTP /ehlo=mail.mydomain.co.uk /etrn=@mydomain.co.uk, @mynextdomain.com /auto /min Then disconnect the ras connection and you should be in business /address=mail server Address of mail server to send ETRN command to /port=portPort to send command to. Usually SMTP (25) /ehlo=domain EHLO command argument (identification domain) /etrn=domain list ETRN command argument (domains to run queue for) /auto
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OK, you don't need ETRN or POP in this case. The ISP will deliver the mail on its own without you having to poll it. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Space shuttles cannot manoeuver like the Millenium Falcon, I don't care if it is the new XR-71 model with the go-faster stripes. - Shaun Salter on the movie Armageddon - -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Server is online all the time, DSL is sketchy. The primary MX is set to my firewall. However, if the DSL service is down or I reboot the router, mail will not be delivered. In the past, I had the ISP deliver the mail to my primary MX when it is avail. If it is not avail, it is delivered to the second record in the MX record - my ISP. In turn, I pull the mail using the POP connector. This only happens in rare occasions but it provides for failover if the circuit is dead. My plan is to continue with the SMTP config but would like to configure ETRN as the backup rather than deal with the shortcomings of the POP connector. Thanks. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Steve Not sure what you mean here - the way I get it..smtp mail incoming to your domain will queue at your service provider until it receives a signal from your mail server to pump all the mail for yourdomain.com to your exchange machine (after establishing dialup or whatever) - in this case then the etrn setup will work fine. If this is not the case can you describe your setup a little better. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 14:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Already read this - no new information. SMTP mail is the primary, ETRN is the secondary. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give additional info here: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp.htm -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Which wire was I supposed to cut? - Famous Last Words - -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Hi Steve - sorry for the way this reads, but I cut n pasted it out of 2 previous posts. It should help you with your issue. I have had a similar situation where I used a util called etrn which polls the store and forward server for you - I just put this into a batch file which did the dialup and then ran this - you give it a host and port to connect to and shibang it goes off and gets it. After looking there is an MS solution aswell, but the above is wonderfully simple. The MS solution is under http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims. asp This was a while ago before we got an all singing all dancing T1 connection installed and we had to rely on isdn which I used for the mail retrieval. - it went something like this (from very rusty memory do forgive mistakes) Rasdial (connection you want) Wait ( this is another util that is useful for pausing the batch file so that it has time to make the link) etrn /address=mail.myisp.net /port=SMTP /ehlo=mail.mydomain.co.uk /etrn=@mydomain.co.uk, @mynextdomain.com /auto /min Then disconnect the ras connection and you should be in business /address=mail server Address
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Ok, now I give... I am in similar situation but at home. I have a broadband connection via @home (test environment for Exch55/E2k), registered domain name, etc, but they closed all inbound ports (except maybe 21) after Nimda. (saw that one coming a mile away!) Of course I can send out the IMS, but no inbound SMTP traffic. Will Pop or ETRN work for me? I could change MX record to registrar of name, then get messages from them when I initial a connection since outbound ports are not blocked. I simply want to use this as test environment, and be able to send/receive messages. Or do I need a new broadband provider Or do I have some more reading to do? Thanks Pat msharik@avtron .com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/2001 cc: 05:10 AM Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Please respond to MS-Exchange Admin Issues OK, you don't need ETRN or POP in this case. The ISP will deliver the mail on its own without you having to poll it. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Space shuttles cannot manoeuver like the Millenium Falcon, I don't care if it is the new XR-71 model with the go-faster stripes. - Shaun Salter on the movie Armageddon - -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Server is online all the time, DSL is sketchy. The primary MX is set to my firewall. However, if the DSL service is down or I reboot the router, mail will not be delivered. In the past, I had the ISP deliver the mail to my primary MX when it is avail. If it is not avail, it is delivered to the second record in the MX record - my ISP. In turn, I pull the mail using the POP connector. This only happens in rare occasions but it provides for failover if the circuit is dead. My plan is to continue with the SMTP config but would like to configure ETRN as the backup rather than deal with the shortcomings of the POP connector. Thanks. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Steve Not sure what you mean here - the way I get it..smtp mail incoming to your domain will queue at your service provider until it receives a signal from your mail server to pump all the mail for yourdomain.com to your exchange machine (after establishing dialup or whatever) - in this case then the etrn setup will work fine. If this is not the case can you describe your setup a little better. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 14:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Already read this - no new information. SMTP mail is the primary, ETRN is the secondary. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark
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Um, no. if the line is down, there is no bandwith. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give do you have a static IP? Is your line monitored? If the answer is yes then you probably have a bandwidth issue. How much of your bandwidth is being used when problems happen. Check to see what happens to your bandwidth is used (send a 5 meg file). I think it is time to change ISP or get more bandwidth. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Server is online all the time, DSL is sketchy. The primary MX is set to my firewall. However, if the DSL service is down or I reboot the router, mail will not be delivered. In the past, I had the ISP deliver the mail to my primary MX when it is avail. If it is not avail, it is delivered to the second record in the MX record - my ISP. In turn, I pull the mail using the POP connector. This only happens in rare occasions but it provides for failover if the circuit is dead. My plan is to continue with the SMTP config but would like to configure ETRN as the backup rather than deal with the shortcomings of the POP connector. Thanks. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Steve Not sure what you mean here - the way I get it..smtp mail incoming to your domain will queue at your service provider until it receives a signal from your mail server to pump all the mail for yourdomain.com to your exchange machine (after establishing dialup or whatever) - in this case then the etrn setup will work fine. If this is not the case can you describe your setup a little better. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 14:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Already read this - no new information. SMTP mail is the primary, ETRN is the secondary. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give additional info here: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp.htm -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Which wire was I supposed to cut? - Famous Last Words - -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Hi Steve - sorry for the way this reads, but I cut n pasted it out of 2 previous posts. It should help you with your issue. I have had a similar situation where I used a util called etrn which polls the store and forward server for you - I just put this into a batch file which did the dialup and then ran this - you give it a host and port to connect to and shibang it goes off and gets it. After looking there is an MS solution aswell, but the above is wonderfully simple. The MS solution is under http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims. asp This was a while ago before we got an all singing all dancing T1 connection installed and we had to rely on isdn which I used for the mail retrieval. - it went something
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Server is online all the time, DSL is sketchy. The primary MX is set to my firewall. However, if the DSL service is down or I reboot the router, mail will not be delivered. In the past, I had the ISP deliver the mail to my primary MX when it is avail. If it is not avail, it is delivered to the second record in the MX record - my ISP. In turn, I pull the mail using the POP connector. This only happens in rare occasions but it provides for failover if the circuit is dead. My plan is to continue with the SMTP config but would like to configure ETRN as the backup rather than deal with the shortcomings of the POP connector. Thanks. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Steve Not sure what you mean here - the way I get it..smtp mail incoming to your domain will queue at your service provider until it receives a signal from your mail server to pump all the mail for yourdomain.com to your exchange machine (after establishing dialup or whatever) - in this case then the etrn setup will work fine. If this is not the case can you describe your setup a little better. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 14:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Already read this - no new information. SMTP mail is the primary, ETRN is the secondary. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give additional info here: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp.htm -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Which wire was I supposed to cut? - Famous Last Words - -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Hi Steve - sorry for the way this reads, but I cut n pasted it out of 2 previous posts. It should help you with your issue. I have had a similar situation where I used a util called etrn which polls the store and forward server for you - I just put this into a batch file which did the dialup and then ran this - you give it a host and port to connect to and shibang it goes off and gets it. After looking there is an MS solution aswell, but the above is wonderfully simple. The MS solution is under http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims. asp This was a while ago before we got an all singing all dancing T1 connection installed and we had to rely on isdn which I used for the mail retrieval. - it went something like this (from very rusty memory do forgive mistakes) Rasdial (connection you want) Wait ( this is another util that is useful for pausing the batch file so that it has time to make the link) etrn /address=mail.myisp.net /port=SMTP /ehlo=mail.mydomain.co.uk /etrn=@mydomain.co.uk, @mynextdomain.com /auto /min Then disconnect the ras connection and you should be in business /address=mail server Address of mail server to send ETRN command to /port=portPort to send command to. Usually SMTP (25) /ehlo=domain EHLO command argument (identification domain) /etrn=domain list ETRN command argument (domains to run queue for) /auto If specified, run ETRN when etrn.exe started /minIf specified, run etrn.exe in a minimized window You can download etrn here http://www.magpage.com/magpage/helpdesk/etrn.exe Hope this is what you are looking for. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 02:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Ok, ok, I give After being PUMMELED this week over the POP connector stuff, I
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Sounds like a lot of effort. Why not just run one MX for your DSL? If its not up the messages will queue on the originating end anyway... Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Server is online all the time, DSL is sketchy. The primary MX is set to my firewall. However, if the DSL service is down or I reboot the router, mail will not be delivered. In the past, I had the ISP deliver the mail to my primary MX when it is avail. If it is not avail, it is delivered to the second record in the MX record - my ISP. In turn, I pull the mail using the POP connector. This only happens in rare occasions but it provides for failover if the circuit is dead. My plan is to continue with the SMTP config but would like to configure ETRN as the backup rather than deal with the shortcomings of the POP connector. Thanks. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Steve Not sure what you mean here - the way I get it..smtp mail incoming to your domain will queue at your service provider until it receives a signal from your mail server to pump all the mail for yourdomain.com to your exchange machine (after establishing dialup or whatever) - in this case then the etrn setup will work fine. If this is not the case can you describe your setup a little better. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 14:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give Already read this - no new information. SMTP mail is the primary, ETRN is the secondary. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok, ok, I give additional info here: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp.htm -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Which wire was I supposed to cut? - Famous Last Words - List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
