RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-08 Thread Cross, Tom

  That's funny, I took the class about 3 years ago and the guy who taught
the class, completely bashed Microsoft products, expecially Exchange.  The
guy wrote a book about e-mail security, I believe his name was Lawrence
Hughes. I really got a bad taste from that class.  Funny that they went to
Exchange right after Microsoft started putting Verisign cert authorities in
IE.  At that time, they weren't in the browsers list to choose from.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


They use Exchange.

-Original Message-
From: Cross, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


I went to a PKI class in Atlanta with Verisign and they are the most
anti-Microsoft, anti-Exchange people I've ever met.  Generate your own cert.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Sounds good. Do you know anyone who works there?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


I recommend Verisign.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread Ben Winzenz

Yep - I believe David is correct here.  The only reason that you should need
a CA is if you want to create and assign certificates with it.  If you
already have a cert from Verisign, then when you set up the OWA page with
SSL, you should simply be able to use that cert.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA

Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL on OWA

Hi all,

We currently have a cert from verisign to enable ssl for our OWA users. We
are in the process of setting up Windows 2000 Certificate Authority on our
test network and are stumped with the first option of what to install,
enterprise or standalone CA. We don't want to issue certificates to users on
the outside, we just want them to establish a secure connection with our OWA
server like it is currently configured with the verisign cert. Any insight
is appreciated. Thanks.



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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread Crouthamel, Jonathan

Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL on OWA

Hi all,

We currently have a cert from verisign to enable ssl for our OWA users. We
are in the process of setting up Windows 2000 Certificate Authority on our
test network and are stumped with the first option of what to install,
enterprise or standalone CA. We don't want to issue certificates to users on
the outside, we just want them to establish a secure connection with our OWA
server like it is currently configured with the verisign cert. Any insight
is appreciated. Thanks.



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Technical Services Supervisor
Systems Administrator
Datavision-Prologix, Inc.
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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread Ben Winzenz

Sounds like you might benefit from your own CA then.  Isn't there an option
to install Enterprise Standalone CA?  Been awhile since I did my last
install.  Do remember also that once you install the cert and assign it to
the web page, you will always get that notification window stating that the
cert could not be verified to be from a trusted source, or something like
that.  It will work fine though.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA

Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL on OWA

Hi all,

We currently have a cert from verisign to enable ssl for our OWA users. We
are in the process of setting up Windows 2000 Certificate Authority on our
test network and are stumped with the first option of what to install,
enterprise or standalone CA. We don't want to issue certificates to users on
the outside, we just want them to establish a secure connection with our OWA
server like it is currently configured with the verisign cert. Any insight
is appreciated. Thanks.



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Datavision-Prologix, Inc.
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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread Crouthamel, Jonathan

From my reading there seems to be two main ones to choose from. Enterprise
and Standalone. The Enterprise is AD aware and can issue certs to machines
automatically. I did read somewhere that the standalone CA can be a security
risk if installed into AD. Has anybody else heard this?

Anyway, getting a little off topic. If I understand this correctly, when one
of my users connects to our OWA server they are not requesting a cert, they
are just establishing a secure connection...right??? So when white papers
state that if you are issuing certs to users outside your organization you
should use a standalone CA, this is not applicable to my
situation...right  :)

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Sounds like you might benefit from your own CA then.  Isn't there an option
to install Enterprise Standalone CA?  Been awhile since I did my last
install.  Do remember also that once you install the cert and assign it to
the web page, you will always get that notification window stating that the
cert could not be verified to be from a trusted source, or something like
that.  It will work fine though.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA

Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL on OWA

Hi all,

We currently have a cert from verisign to enable ssl for our OWA users. We
are in the process of setting up Windows 2000 Certificate Authority on our
test network and are stumped with the first option of what to install,
enterprise or standalone CA. We don't want to issue certificates to users on
the outside, we just want them to establish a secure connection with our OWA
server like it is currently configured with the verisign cert. Any insight
is appreciated. Thanks.



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Systems Administrator
Datavision-Prologix, Inc.
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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Title: RE: SSL on OWA





Right, you don't need to set up a CA server to do SSL over OWA.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA



Not sure you need to set up a CA at all. Just use the cert and you will be fine.


David


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL on OWA


Hi all,


We currently have a cert from verisign to enable ssl for our OWA users. We are in the process of setting up Windows 2000 Certificate Authority on our test network and are stumped with the first option of what to install, enterprise or standalone CA. We don't want to issue certificates to users on the outside, we just want them to establish a secure connection with our OWA server like it is currently configured with the verisign cert. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks.



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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread John Matteson

Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?

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From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL on OWA

Hi all,

We currently have a cert from verisign to enable ssl for our OWA users. We
are in the process of setting up Windows 2000 Certificate Authority on our
test network and are stumped with the first option of what to install,
enterprise or standalone CA. We don't want to issue certificates to users on
the outside, we just want them to establish a secure connection with our OWA
server like it is currently configured with the verisign cert. Any insight
is appreciated. Thanks.



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Technical Services Supervisor
Systems Administrator
Datavision-Prologix, Inc.
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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread David White

The problem is when users contact your server and try and authenticate the
signature.  If the root server is not in the list of trusted Root CAs then
each new session will promt for a warning for unknown CA cert and ask each
time to trust it.  You can have each user install the root CA as a trusted CA
but it's a pain.

David

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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA

Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
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Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL on OWA

Hi all,

We currently have a cert from verisign to enable ssl for our OWA users. We
are in the process of setting up Windows 2000 Certificate Authority on our
test network and are stumped with the first option of what to install,
enterprise or standalone CA. We don't want to issue certificates to users on
the outside, we just want them to establish a secure connection with our OWA
server like it is currently configured with the verisign cert. Any insight
is appreciated. Thanks.



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Systems Administrator
Datavision-Prologix, Inc.
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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread Nelson Siqueiros - ADCS Inc.

I also read that is recommended that a standalones should be setup outside
the network.  But if you decide for an Enterprise installation you can also
do secure e-mail encryption, logons, smartcards, etc.

Nelson

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


From my reading there seems to be two main ones to choose from. Enterprise
and Standalone. The Enterprise is AD aware and can issue certs to machines
automatically. I did read somewhere that the standalone CA can be a security
risk if installed into AD. Has anybody else heard this?

Anyway, getting a little off topic. If I understand this correctly, when one
of my users connects to our OWA server they are not requesting a cert, they
are just establishing a secure connection...right??? So when white papers
state that if you are issuing certs to users outside your organization you
should use a standalone CA, this is not applicable to my
situation...right  :)

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Sounds like you might benefit from your own CA then.  Isn't there an option
to install Enterprise Standalone CA?  Been awhile since I did my last
install.  Do remember also that once you install the cert and assign it to
the web page, you will always get that notification window stating that the
cert could not be verified to be from a trusted source, or something like
that.  It will work fine though.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA

Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL on OWA

Hi all,

We currently have a cert from verisign to enable ssl for our OWA users. We
are in the process of setting up Windows 2000 Certificate Authority on our
test network and are stumped with the first option of what to install,
enterprise or standalone CA. We don't want to issue certificates to users on
the outside, we just want them to establish a secure connection with our OWA
server like it is currently configured with the verisign cert. Any insight
is appreciated. Thanks.



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Technical Services Supervisor
Systems Administrator
Datavision-Prologix, Inc.
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




 
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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread William Lefkovics

I recommend Verisign.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread William Lefkovics

May I recommend Thawte?


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL on OWA

Hi all,

We currently have a cert from verisign to enable ssl for our OWA users. We
are in the process of setting up Windows 2000 Certificate Authority on our
test network and are stumped with the first option of what to install,
enterprise or standalone CA. We don't want to issue certificates to users on
the outside, we just want them to establish a secure connection with our OWA
server like it is currently configured with the verisign cert. Any insight
is appreciated. Thanks.

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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread bill . higgins

Gee William... Why would you recommend Verisign... :)

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 14:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


I recommend Verisign.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread Cross, Tom

I went to a PKI class in Atlanta with Verisign and they are the most
anti-Microsoft, anti-Exchange people I've ever met.  Generate your own cert.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Sounds good. Do you know anyone who works there?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


I recommend Verisign.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread Crouthamel, Jonathan

OK, if you pay for it...:)

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


I recommend Verisign.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread William Lefkovics

We use thawte.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Sounds good. Do you know anyone who works there?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


I recommend Verisign.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread Dimitri Limanovski

FWIW, Entrust has been working fine for the past 2 years here.
1/2 price of VeriSign, if you purchase 2-year contract.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


We use thawte.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Sounds good. Do you know anyone who works there?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


I recommend Verisign.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread Steve Ens

Funny guy...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Gee William... Why would you recommend Verisign... :)

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 14:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


I recommend Verisign.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread Zangara, Jim
Title: RE: SSL on OWA





Someone mentioned thwate - they were just purchased by version but are still cheap - 225 for two years.


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A Division of Clear Channel Communications 
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From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA



Funny guy...


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA



Gee William... Why would you recommend Verisign... :)


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 14:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA



I recommend Verisign.


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA



Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?


John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 



-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA



Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good alternative.

Jonathan


-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA



Not sure you need to set up a CA at all. Just use the cert and you will be fine.


David


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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-07 Thread William Lefkovics

They use Exchange.

-Original Message-
From: Cross, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


I went to a PKI class in Atlanta with Verisign and they are the most
anti-Microsoft, anti-Exchange people I've ever met.  Generate your own cert.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Sounds good. Do you know anyone who works there?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


I recommend Verisign.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Why not just gen up your own self-signed cert?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 


-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Our current cert is nearing expiration. Verisign has also opted to up the
cost to almost 900 bucks. With aspirations of putting a cert on the
workstyle server as well as some secure web sites we are looking to an
alternative to verisign. With CA built into windows it seems like a good
alternative.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL on OWA


Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

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RE: SSL on OWA

2002-03-06 Thread David White

Not sure you need to set up a CA at all.  Just use the cert and you will be
fine.

David

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL on OWA

Hi all,

We currently have a cert from verisign to enable ssl for our OWA users. We
are in the process of setting up Windows 2000 Certificate Authority on our
test network and are stumped with the first option of what to install,
enterprise or standalone CA. We don't want to issue certificates to users on
the outside, we just want them to establish a secure connection with our OWA
server like it is currently configured with the verisign cert. Any insight
is appreciated. Thanks.



Jonathan Crouthamel - MCSE/CNA
Technical Services Supervisor
Systems Administrator
Datavision-Prologix, Inc.
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




 
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RE: SSL for OWA?

2002-02-05 Thread Brien Mayer

I am running ssl on my ex2k box. No problems NOW. If I were you I would download a 14 
day trail certificate  then let them upgrade it after 14 days. It was a pain to 
configure the first time around.Don't spend the money until you know you have right.

-Original Message-
From: Bonner, Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL for OWA?


Does anyone have any advice for implementing SSL on an E2K OWA front-end
server? Any gotchas or pitfalls to be aware of? Recommendations on letting
the server handle the SSL overhead vs. getting a SSL PCI card or a
stand-alone SSL device?

Thanks!

Jon Bonner




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RE: SSL and OWA

2002-01-04 Thread Benjamin Winzenz

I don't mind the intrusion, but I would prefer that you continue to post
these questions on the list as well.  I don't know everything about SSL and
OWA, and you may get a better answer there.  That being said, I don't think
I can fairly answer an If scenario.  Either this is the case or it isn't.
There are too many factors that come into play.  SSL encryption takes more
time than non-SSL simply because of the encryption part of it.  It will
cause delays both locally and remotely.  I think it is a safe assumption
that those delays aren't always going to be equal locally and remotely.  You
probably need to look at other factors, including connection speed remotely,
available bandwidth to/from internet to the OWA server, distance in hops
from said server, etc. etc. etc.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Karen Arevalo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SSL and OWA

I hope I'm not intruding but what do you think the problem would be
if...

I am using ssl and owa to access my exchange 2k box remotely.  It is
extremely slow logging in, once logged in the systems run quite fast.  I
then tried to access the exchange box onsite using owa and it is very
fast and that was even with SSL.  What do you think would cause the
discrepency?  I'd appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks,
Karen  

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL and OWA



It's the SSL overhead.  It takes a while.

 

Ben Winzenz, MCSE

Network/Systems Administrator

Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL and OWA

 

I am using ssl and owa to access my exchange 2k box remotely.  It is
extremely slow logging in, once logged in the systems run quite fast.  I
then tried to access the exchange box onsite using owa and it is still
very slow.  Any thoughts or ideas?

 

Thanks,

 

Jonathan

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RE: SSL and OWA

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz
Title: Message









It's the SSL overhead. It takes a
while.





Ben Winzenz, MCSE

Network/Systems
Administrator

Peregrine Systems, Inc.





-Original Message-
From: Jonathan K
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
11:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL and OWA





I am using ssl and owa to access my exchange 2kbox
remotely. It is extremely slow logging in, once logged in the systems run
quite fast. I then tried to access the exchange box onsite using owa and
it is still very slow. Any thoughts or ideas?











Thanks,











Jonathan



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