RE: Slightly OT: Connection
How many channels do you need for phones at max usage? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Slightly OT: Connection Hello, We are currently connected via DSL that I just tested at 2.4Mbps Down and 556Kbps up and we pay about $70 a month and we have a PRI for our phones. Well my ATT rep is suggesting we convert the PRI to a IP Flex T1, our concern is the download speed going from 2.4Mbps to 1.5Mbps and some of that going to the phones. Anyone have any good info regarding this, how our users will be affected? We have about 30 users on this circuit. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com
Re: Slightly OT: Connection
Your users will have become accustomed to the avilable bandwidth, contracting it will be a big deal. IIRC, phones take 20Kbps/line when in use... On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Doug Rooney d...@sonomatilemakers.comwrote: Hello, We are currently connected via DSL that I just tested at 2.4Mbps Down and 556Kbps up and we pay about $70 a month and we have a PRI for our phones. Well my ATT rep is suggesting we convert the PRI to a IP Flex T1, our concern is the download speed going from 2.4Mbps to 1.5Mbps and some of that going to the phones. Anyone have any good info regarding this, how our users will be affected? We have about 30 users on this circuit. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com
RE: Slightly OT: Connection
They suggested 15, we are at 20 max right now. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection How many channels do you need for phones at max usage? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Slightly OT: Connection Hello, We are currently connected via DSL that I just tested at 2.4Mbps Down and 556Kbps up and we pay about $70 a month and we have a PRI for our phones. Well my ATT rep is suggesting we convert the PRI to a IP Flex T1, our concern is the download speed going from 2.4Mbps to 1.5Mbps and some of that going to the phones. Anyone have any good info regarding this, how our users will be affected? We have about 30 users on this circuit. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com
RE: Slightly OT: Connection
Why would you want to switch to a slower speed connection? Are you having problems with your DSL connection? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection They suggested 15, we are at 20 max right now. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection How many channels do you need for phones at max usage? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Slightly OT: Connection Hello, We are currently connected via DSL that I just tested at 2.4Mbps Down and 556Kbps up and we pay about $70 a month and we have a PRI for our phones. Well my ATT rep is suggesting we convert the PRI to a IP Flex T1, our concern is the download speed going from 2.4Mbps to 1.5Mbps and some of that going to the phones. Anyone have any good info regarding this, how our users will be affected? We have about 30 users on this circuit. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com
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About once a month it goes down, but the rep said because latency is lower the speed is about the same, but that is why I am asking, because he is a sales guy, not a tech. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:ewittersh...@aasmnet.org] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection Why would you want to switch to a slower speed connection? Are you having problems with your DSL connection? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection They suggested 15, we are at 20 max right now. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection How many channels do you need for phones at max usage? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Slightly OT: Connection Hello, We are currently connected via DSL that I just tested at 2.4Mbps Down and 556Kbps up and we pay about $70 a month and we have a PRI for our phones. Well my ATT rep is suggesting we convert the PRI to a IP Flex T1, our concern is the download speed going from 2.4Mbps to 1.5Mbps and some of that going to the phones. Anyone have any good info regarding this, how our users will be affected? We have about 30 users on this circuit. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com
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From what I am reading... IP Flex T1 - this is probably their term for SIP trunking. What that means is you have 1.5M T1 circuit to use either for phone calls or for internet. If you use 20 lines for phone, that doesn't leave you with much left for internet traffic. How about getting (2) T1 circuits, have ATT bond them together, and this would give you 1.5M for phone calls, 1.5M for internet? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection About once a month it goes down, but the rep said because latency is lower the speed is about the same, but that is why I am asking, because he is a sales guy, not a tech. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:ewittersh...@aasmnet.org] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection Why would you want to switch to a slower speed connection? Are you having problems with your DSL connection? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection They suggested 15, we are at 20 max right now. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection How many channels do you need for phones at max usage? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Slightly OT: Connection Hello, We are currently connected via DSL that I just tested at 2.4Mbps Down and 556Kbps up and we pay about $70 a month and we have a PRI for our phones. Well my ATT rep is suggesting we convert the PRI to a IP Flex T1, our concern is the download speed going from 2.4Mbps to 1.5Mbps and some of that going to the phones. Anyone have any good info regarding this, how our users will be affected? We have about 30 users on this circuit. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com
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Do you have any other DSL options? I don't buy his latency sales pitch. If your IP flex T1 is pegged you are going to feel it more, IMHO. I have 2 data T1 lines bonded for about 50 users plus Exchange and our web sites. I pretty much have at least 1 of the T1s worth of bandwidth used throughout the business day. We are about ready to switch over to 10MB Ethernet. From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection About once a month it goes down, but the rep said because latency is lower the speed is about the same, but that is why I am asking, because he is a sales guy, not a tech. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:ewittersh...@aasmnet.org] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection Why would you want to switch to a slower speed connection? Are you having problems with your DSL connection? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection They suggested 15, we are at 20 max right now. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection How many channels do you need for phones at max usage? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Slightly OT: Connection Hello, We are currently connected via DSL that I just tested at 2.4Mbps Down and 556Kbps up and we pay about $70 a month and we have a PRI for our phones. Well my ATT rep is suggesting we convert the PRI to a IP Flex T1, our concern is the download speed going from 2.4Mbps to 1.5Mbps and some of that going to the phones. Anyone have any good info regarding this, how our users will be affected? We have about 30 users on this circuit. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com
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That's hooey. If you needed a lot of interaction latency might be important. Or if you were used to satellite internet service it might be important. While the difference in latency between DSL and his offering may be measurable, it may not be noticeable to you or your users. The lack of available bandwidth will be measurable AND noticeable. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Doug Rooney d...@sonomatilemakers.comwrote: About once a month it goes down, but the rep said because latency is lower the speed is about the same, but that is why I am asking, because he is a sales guy, not a tech. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com *From:* Eric Wittersheim [mailto:ewittersh...@aasmnet.org] *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 9:13 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Slightly OT: Connection Why would you want to switch to a slower speed connection? Are you having problems with your DSL connection? *From:* Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Slightly OT: Connection They suggested 15, we are at 20 max right now. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 8:53 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Slightly OT: Connection How many channels do you need for phones at max usage? *From:* Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 11:43 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Slightly OT: Connection Hello, We are currently connected via DSL that I just tested at 2.4Mbps Down and 556Kbps up and we pay about $70 a month and we have a PRI for our phones. Well my ATT rep is suggesting we convert the PRI to a IP Flex T1, our concern is the download speed going from 2.4Mbps to 1.5Mbps and some of that going to the phones. Anyone have any good info regarding this, how our users will be affected? We have about 30 users on this circuit. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com
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We have a Flex Line from XO and it's been problematic at best. We haven't had any bandwidth problems, but we've had several configuration hassles trying to get to interface with our VOIP system. From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection They suggested 15, we are at 20 max right now. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.commailto:i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection How many channels do you need for phones at max usage? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Slightly OT: Connection Hello, We are currently connected via DSL that I just tested at 2.4Mbps Down and 556Kbps up and we pay about $70 a month and we have a PRI for our phones. Well my ATT rep is suggesting we convert the PRI to a IP Flex T1, our concern is the download speed going from 2.4Mbps to 1.5Mbps and some of that going to the phones. Anyone have any good info regarding this, how our users will be affected? We have about 30 users on this circuit. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.commailto:i...@sonomatilemakers.com
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Well, thanks everyone for your replies, I think it is pretty clear. We will be staying with what we have. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection We have a Flex Line from XO and it's been problematic at best. We haven't had any bandwidth problems, but we've had several configuration hassles trying to get to interface with our VOIP system. From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection They suggested 15, we are at 20 max right now. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Connection How many channels do you need for phones at max usage? From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Slightly OT: Connection Hello, We are currently connected via DSL that I just tested at 2.4Mbps Down and 556Kbps up and we pay about $70 a month and we have a PRI for our phones. Well my ATT rep is suggesting we convert the PRI to a IP Flex T1, our concern is the download speed going from 2.4Mbps to 1.5Mbps and some of that going to the phones. Anyone have any good info regarding this, how our users will be affected? We have about 30 users on this circuit. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com
Re: Slightly OT: Connection
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, phones take 20Kbps/line when in use... A standard DS0 channel is *exactly* 64,000 bits per second. VoIP varies by codec and config, but 40 to 50 Kbit/sec is usually what I see quoted. -- Ben
