RE: big problem with my DR procedure
Thanks for the links, guess I didn't read them well enough before. :) Well, this would help a lot, but I just gave my 2 week notice here, to go to another small company where I get to figure out how to setup an AD domain with Exchange 2000 and migrate from sendmail/popper. Yuck Anyway, thanks for the help and I suppose I will be nice and send the links to my, *cough* replacements. :) Mike Z -Original Message- From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Take two aspirin and read these documents. http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/Disaster.asp http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp Links may wrap. Mark -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE : big problem with my DR procedure
Can we do this with win2k ? what else to do to promote the second server to keep everything running once disconnected ? I am too considering a test platform following a dr which was not fully successful -Message d'origine- De : Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : vendredi 1 mars 2002 20:02 À : MS-Exchange Admin Issues Objet : RE: big problem with my DR procedure Simple - Build a BDC on the live network, disconnect it from the live network, promote it to be a PDC, rename it to the name of the Exchange Server (Or build another machine on the test network for the Exchange server) and restore. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:40 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Ok, just to make sure I am on the same page, the only way to restore the directory, is to have the machine named the same? I guess that I will need to figure out a way to setup a test network, not just the exchange box to try it with the same name on my test server as the actual server. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure One of the requirements of doing an Exchange restore (As I understand it) it is having the same Server name. Hence, doing the restore on the live network to a test server would prove difficult. I do remember reading somewhere that you can restore the Information store (Not the directory) to an alternate server, but I would imagine that as the directory isn't being restored one of the effects would be loss of permissions (Like your describing). I have never tried this though and so I'm only guessing. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Neil, Well, the test exchange server, is on our actual domain, it is just not part of the site. We use it to restore mailboxes when needed, so the SAM should be fine. Under permissions, nothing is listed, not even the Account Unknown entries, it is like we are not backing up/able to restore something, like the directory that might be preventing us from getting the permissions transferred over. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure On your test network, how up-to-date is the SAM database (Compared to the live domain)? I've seens the permissions on newer mailboxes disappear (show Account Unknown) when restoring to a test network with a SAM older than when the user on the live domain was added. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 15:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE : big problem with my DR procedure
My back-up dat is on the cpd : i think i have to forget to manage yr config Just have another dat running on the test network ! -Message d'origine- De : Carol Fee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : vendredi 1 mars 2002 20:07 À : MS-Exchange Admin Issues Objet : RE: big problem with my DR procedure This is the only way to do it. Also, if you are using a centralized backup system, you will also have to connect your backup machine to your test network in order to be able to do the restore. Carol Fee MCSE Network Administrator Artisoft, Inc. 5 Cambridge Center Cambridge, MA 02142 617-354-0600 X118 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Simple - Build a BDC on the live network, disconnect it from the live network, promote it to be a PDC, rename it to the name of the Exchange Server (Or build another machine on the test network for the Exchange server) and restore. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:40 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Ok, just to make sure I am on the same page, the only way to restore the directory, is to have the machine named the same? I guess that I will need to figure out a way to setup a test network, not just the exchange box to try it with the same name on my test server as the actual server. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure One of the requirements of doing an Exchange restore (As I understand it) it is having the same Server name. Hence, doing the restore on the live network to a test server would prove difficult. I do remember reading somewhere that you can restore the Information store (Not the directory) to an alternate server, but I would imagine that as the directory isn't being restored one of the effects would be loss of permissions (Like your describing). I have never tried this though and so I'm only guessing. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Neil, Well, the test exchange server, is on our actual domain, it is just not part of the site. We use it to restore mailboxes when needed, so the SAM should be fine. Under permissions, nothing is listed, not even the Account Unknown entries, it is like we are not backing up/able to restore something, like the directory that might be preventing us from getting the permissions transferred over. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure On your test network, how up-to-date is the SAM database (Compared to the live domain)? I've seens the permissions on newer mailboxes disappear (show Account Unknown) when restoring to a test network with a SAM older than when the user on the live domain was added. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 15:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: big problem with my DR procedure
Neil, Well, the test exchange server, is on our actual domain, it is just not part of the site. We use it to restore mailboxes when needed, so the SAM should be fine. Under permissions, nothing is listed, not even the Account Unknown entries, it is like we are not backing up/able to restore something, like the directory that might be preventing us from getting the permissions transferred over. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure On your test network, how up-to-date is the SAM database (Compared to the live domain)? I've seens the permissions on newer mailboxes disappear (show Account Unknown) when restoring to a test network with a SAM older than when the user on the live domain was added. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 15:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: big problem with my DR procedure
One of the requirements of doing an Exchange restore (As I understand it) it is having the same Server name. Hence, doing the restore on the live network to a test server would prove difficult. I do remember reading somewhere that you can restore the Information store (Not the directory) to an alternate server, but I would imagine that as the directory isn't being restored one of the effects would be loss of permissions (Like your describing). I have never tried this though and so I'm only guessing. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Neil, Well, the test exchange server, is on our actual domain, it is just not part of the site. We use it to restore mailboxes when needed, so the SAM should be fine. Under permissions, nothing is listed, not even the Account Unknown entries, it is like we are not backing up/able to restore something, like the directory that might be preventing us from getting the permissions transferred over. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure On your test network, how up-to-date is the SAM database (Compared to the live domain)? I've seens the permissions on newer mailboxes disappear (show Account Unknown) when restoring to a test network with a SAM older than when the user on the live domain was added. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 15:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: big problem with my DR procedure
Ok, just to make sure I am on the same page, the only way to restore the directory, is to have the machine named the same? I guess that I will need to figure out a way to setup a test network, not just the exchange box to try it with the same name on my test server as the actual server. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure One of the requirements of doing an Exchange restore (As I understand it) it is having the same Server name. Hence, doing the restore on the live network to a test server would prove difficult. I do remember reading somewhere that you can restore the Information store (Not the directory) to an alternate server, but I would imagine that as the directory isn't being restored one of the effects would be loss of permissions (Like your describing). I have never tried this though and so I'm only guessing. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Neil, Well, the test exchange server, is on our actual domain, it is just not part of the site. We use it to restore mailboxes when needed, so the SAM should be fine. Under permissions, nothing is listed, not even the Account Unknown entries, it is like we are not backing up/able to restore something, like the directory that might be preventing us from getting the permissions transferred over. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure On your test network, how up-to-date is the SAM database (Compared to the live domain)? I've seens the permissions on newer mailboxes disappear (show Account Unknown) when restoring to a test network with a SAM older than when the user on the live domain was added. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 15:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: big problem with my DR procedure
Simple - Build a BDC on the live network, disconnect it from the live network, promote it to be a PDC, rename it to the name of the Exchange Server (Or build another machine on the test network for the Exchange server) and restore. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:40 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Ok, just to make sure I am on the same page, the only way to restore the directory, is to have the machine named the same? I guess that I will need to figure out a way to setup a test network, not just the exchange box to try it with the same name on my test server as the actual server. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure One of the requirements of doing an Exchange restore (As I understand it) it is having the same Server name. Hence, doing the restore on the live network to a test server would prove difficult. I do remember reading somewhere that you can restore the Information store (Not the directory) to an alternate server, but I would imagine that as the directory isn't being restored one of the effects would be loss of permissions (Like your describing). I have never tried this though and so I'm only guessing. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Neil, Well, the test exchange server, is on our actual domain, it is just not part of the site. We use it to restore mailboxes when needed, so the SAM should be fine. Under permissions, nothing is listed, not even the Account Unknown entries, it is like we are not backing up/able to restore something, like the directory that might be preventing us from getting the permissions transferred over. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure On your test network, how up-to-date is the SAM database (Compared to the live domain)? I've seens the permissions on newer mailboxes disappear (show Account Unknown) when restoring to a test network with a SAM older than when the user on the live domain was added. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 15:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: big problem with my DR procedure
This is the only way to do it. Also, if you are using a centralized backup system, you will also have to connect your backup machine to your test network in order to be able to do the restore. Carol Fee MCSE Network Administrator Artisoft, Inc. 5 Cambridge Center Cambridge, MA 02142 617-354-0600 X118 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Simple - Build a BDC on the live network, disconnect it from the live network, promote it to be a PDC, rename it to the name of the Exchange Server (Or build another machine on the test network for the Exchange server) and restore. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:40 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Ok, just to make sure I am on the same page, the only way to restore the directory, is to have the machine named the same? I guess that I will need to figure out a way to setup a test network, not just the exchange box to try it with the same name on my test server as the actual server. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure One of the requirements of doing an Exchange restore (As I understand it) it is having the same Server name. Hence, doing the restore on the live network to a test server would prove difficult. I do remember reading somewhere that you can restore the Information store (Not the directory) to an alternate server, but I would imagine that as the directory isn't being restored one of the effects would be loss of permissions (Like your describing). I have never tried this though and so I'm only guessing. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Neil, Well, the test exchange server, is on our actual domain, it is just not part of the site. We use it to restore mailboxes when needed, so the SAM should be fine. Under permissions, nothing is listed, not even the Account Unknown entries, it is like we are not backing up/able to restore something, like the directory that might be preventing us from getting the permissions transferred over. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure On your test network, how up-to-date is the SAM database (Compared to the live domain)? I've seens the permissions on newer mailboxes disappear (show Account Unknown) when restoring to a test network with a SAM older than when the user on the live domain was added. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 15:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: big problem with my DR procedure
I actually have a DLT drive in my test exchange box, so that won't be a problem. Thanks for the information, guess I know what I need to do. Mike -Original Message- From: Carol Fee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure This is the only way to do it. Also, if you are using a centralized backup system, you will also have to connect your backup machine to your test network in order to be able to do the restore. Carol Fee MCSE Network Administrator Artisoft, Inc. 5 Cambridge Center Cambridge, MA 02142 617-354-0600 X118 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Simple - Build a BDC on the live network, disconnect it from the live network, promote it to be a PDC, rename it to the name of the Exchange Server (Or build another machine on the test network for the Exchange server) and restore. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:40 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Ok, just to make sure I am on the same page, the only way to restore the directory, is to have the machine named the same? I guess that I will need to figure out a way to setup a test network, not just the exchange box to try it with the same name on my test server as the actual server. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure One of the requirements of doing an Exchange restore (As I understand it) it is having the same Server name. Hence, doing the restore on the live network to a test server would prove difficult. I do remember reading somewhere that you can restore the Information store (Not the directory) to an alternate server, but I would imagine that as the directory isn't being restored one of the effects would be loss of permissions (Like your describing). I have never tried this though and so I'm only guessing. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Neil, Well, the test exchange server, is on our actual domain, it is just not part of the site. We use it to restore mailboxes when needed, so the SAM should be fine. Under permissions, nothing is listed, not even the Account Unknown entries, it is like we are not backing up/able to restore something, like the directory that might be preventing us from getting the permissions transferred over. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure On your test network, how up-to-date is the SAM database (Compared to the live domain)? I've seens the permissions on newer mailboxes disappear (show Account Unknown) when restoring to a test network with a SAM older than when the user on the live domain was added. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 15:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ
RE: big problem with my DR procedure
Take two aspirin and read these documents. http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/Disaster.asp http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp Links may wrap. Mark -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
