RE: RE : datbase

2002-04-01 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



i 
wound up having to delete my pub.ebd and create a new one.
thank 
god no folders were homed there.

  
  -Original Message-From: Gérard Dumazet 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:09 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE : 
  datbase
  
  I had the same pb 
  recently and creating new server was the solution with MS 
  support
  
  
  -Message 
  d'origine-De: 
  Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé: mercredi 27 mars 2002 
  15:56À: MS-Exchange 
  Admin IssuesObjet: RE: 
  datbase
  
  
  1018 
  errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It 
  prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program 
  figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a 
  fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the 
  site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a 
  problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers 
  do you?
  
  
  
  Kevin
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01To: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: 
datbase

ok



I did what MS 
said..

exmerged it 
out

created a new 
DB

exmerged it back 
in



the store runs, and people work, 
but i cannot back it up

I get this in the event 
log

MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page 
(118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous 
backup

?


Michael Ross
Panduit Corp.
17301 Ridgeland 
Ave
Tinley Park, IL 
60477
MCSE
MS Exchange 
Administrator


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RE: RE : datbase

2002-04-01 Thread Zangara, Jim
Title: Message



Did the Exmerge here as 
well - Went great except for anyone with server based rules. Seemed to 
corrupt the space where exchange stores them. Had to export the rules - 
blast them - and re-import.

Other than that I have a 
clean store and getting solid backups - totally worth it!!


Jim Zangara, MCSE+I, A+IT ManagerSpecial 
Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel 
Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 
Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 12:08 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: RE : 
  datbase
  i 
  wound up having to delete my pub.ebd and create a new one.
  thank god no folders were homed there.
  

-Original Message-From: Gérard Dumazet 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
3:09 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE : 
datbase

I had the same pb 
recently and creating new server was the solution with MS 
support


-Message 
d'origine-De: 
Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé: mercredi 27 mars 2002 
15:56À: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesObjet: 
RE: datbase


1018 
errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It 
prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program 
figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a 
fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the 
site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to 
a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk 
controllers do you?



Kevin

  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: 
  datbase
  
  ok
  
  
  
  I did what MS 
  said..
  
  exmerged it 
  out
  
  created a new 
  DB
  
  exmerged it back 
  in
  
  
  
  the store runs, 
  and people work, but i cannot back it up
  
  I get this in the 
  event log
  
  MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted 
  page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a 
  previous backup
  
  ?
  
  
  Michael 
  Ross
  Panduit 
  Corp.
  17301 Ridgeland 
  Ave
  Tinley Park, IL 
  60477
  MCSE
  MS Exchange 
  Administrator
  
  
  List Charter 
  and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: RE : datbase

2002-04-01 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
Title: Message



I 
don't think that will have solved your problem - I suspect you will encounter it 
again.

  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 01 April 2002 21:08To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: RE : 
  datbase
  i 
  wound up having to delete my pub.ebd and create a new one.
  thank god no folders were homed there.
  

-Original Message-From: Gérard Dumazet 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
3:09 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE : 
datbase

I had the same pb 
recently and creating new server was the solution with MS 
support


-Message 
d'origine-De: 
Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé: mercredi 27 mars 2002 
15:56À: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesObjet: 
RE: datbase


1018 
errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It 
prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program 
figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a 
fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the 
site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to 
a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk 
controllers do you?



Kevin

  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: 
  datbase
  
  ok
  
  
  
  I did what MS 
  said..
  
  exmerged it 
  out
  
  created a new 
  DB
  
  exmerged it back 
  in
  
  
  
  the store runs, 
  and people work, but i cannot back it up
  
  I get this in the 
  event log
  
  MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted 
  page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a 
  previous backup
  
  ?
  
  
  Michael 
  Ross
  Panduit 
  Corp.
  17301 Ridgeland 
  Ave
  Tinley Park, IL 
  60477
  MCSE
  MS Exchange 
  Administrator
  
  
  List Charter 
  and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Erik Sojka
Title: Message



Call 
PSS. 1018 errors are bad. 

  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:01 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  datbase
  ok
  
  I did what MS 
  said..
  exmerged it 
  out
  created a new 
  DB
  exmerged it back 
  in
  
  the store runs, 
  and people work, but i cannot back it up
  I get this in the 
  event log
  
  MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error 
  -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup
  
  ?
  
  Michael Ross
  Panduit Corp.
  17301 Ridgeland Ave
  Tinley Park, IL 60477
  MCSE
  MS Exchange Administrator
  List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Martin Blackstone
Title: Message



Get 
back on the phone with MS. The problem isn't solved, so you can still keep the 
ticket open.

  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 6:01 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  datbase
  ok
  
  I did what MS 
  said..
  exmerged it 
  out
  created a new 
  DB
  exmerged it back 
  in
  
  the store runs, 
  and people work, but i cannot back it up
  I get this in the 
  event log
  
  MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error 
  -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup
  
  ?
  
  Michael Ross
  Panduit Corp.
  17301 Ridgeland Ave
  Tinley Park, IL 60477
  MCSE
  MS Exchange Administrator
  List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread David N Precht
Title: Message



GIVE 
'em heck !!!

  
  -Original Message-From: Martin 
  Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 09:16To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: datbase
  Get 
  back on the phone with MS. The problem isn't solved, so you can still keep the 
  ticket open.
  

-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
6:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
datbase
ok

I did what MS 
said..
exmerged it 
out
created a new 
DB
exmerged it back 
in

the store runs, 
and people work, but i cannot back it up
I get this in 
the event log

MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error 
-1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup

?

Michael Ross
Panduit Corp.
17301 Ridgeland Ave
Tinley Park, IL 60477
MCSE
MS Exchange 
Administrator
List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



got 
info on those errors?

  
  -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:30 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  Call 
  PSS. 1018 errors are bad. 
  

-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
9:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
datbase
ok

I did what MS 
said..
exmerged it 
out
created a new 
DB
exmerged it back 
in

the store runs, 
and people work, but i cannot back it up
I get this in 
the event log

MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error 
-1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup

?

Michael Ross
Panduit Corp.
17301 Ridgeland Ave
Tinley Park, IL 60477
MCSE
MS Exchange 
Administrator
List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



im not 
sure about the disk caching
its a 
server in japan, and im in chicago.


  
  -Original Message-From: Snook, Kevin S 
  (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 
  27, 2002 8:56 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  1018 
  errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It 
  prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program 
  figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a 
  fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the 
  site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a 
  problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers 
  do you?
  
  Kevin
  
-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01To: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: datbase
ok

I did what MS 
said..
exmerged it 
out
created a new 
DB
exmerged it back 
in

the store runs, 
and people work, but i cannot back it up
I get this in 
the event log

MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error 
-1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup

?

Michael Ross
Panduit Corp.
17301 Ridgeland Ave
Tinley Park, IL 60477
MCSE
MS Exchange 
Administrator
List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Ray Zorz
Title: Message



Didn't 
he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
reimporting?

  -Original Message-From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 
  2002 7:56 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  1018 
  errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It 
  prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program 
  figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a 
  fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the 
  site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a 
  problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers 
  do you?
  
  Kevin
  
-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01To: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: datbase
ok

I did what MS 
said..
exmerged it 
out
created a new 
DB
exmerged it back 
in

the store runs, 
and people work, but i cannot back it up
I get this in 
the event log

MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error 
-1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup

?

Michael Ross
Panduit Corp.
17301 Ridgeland Ave
Tinley Park, IL 60477
MCSE
MS Exchange 
Administrator
List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Neil Hobson

These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the
hardware problem


Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: datbase
Subject: RE: datbase


Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? 
-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: datbase


1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET
database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your
backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database.
There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a
new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually
(although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have
any caches set on your disk controllers do you?

Kevin
-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: datbase


ok

I did what MS said..
exmerged it out
created a new DB
exmerged it back in

the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up
I get this in the event log
MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error
-1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup

?

Michael Ross
Panduit Corp.
17301 Ridgeland Ave
Tinley Park, IL 60477
MCSE
MS Exchange Administrator

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)

Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe
(through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware
problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move
data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the
start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and
move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it
that way.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: datbase


These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the
hardware problem


Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: datbase
Subject: RE: datbase


Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? 
-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: datbase


1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET
database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your
backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database.
There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a
new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually
(although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have
any caches set on your disk controllers do you?

Kevin
-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: datbase


ok

I did what MS said..
exmerged it out
created a new DB
exmerged it back in

the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up
I get this in the event log
MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error
-1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup

?

Michael Ross
Panduit Corp.
17301 Ridgeland Ave
Tinley Park, IL 60477
MCSE
MS Exchange Administrator

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Neil Hobson

Indeed, that's exactly what I do.  What I meant to say in my first post,
and I don't think it came across very well, is that  even if you export
the data and whack priv.edb, it can still happen again.

The last time I had one of these was after arriving at 10pm back in the
UK from Holland, and getting a call at 2am from one of my colleagues
saying what's does jet error -1018 mean?.  Now I unplug the phone at
night.  :-)

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 16:30
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: datbase
Subject: RE: datbase


Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I
believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the
hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still
have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do
this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server
to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so
you can't do it that way.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: datbase


These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the
hardware problem


Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: datbase
Subject: RE: datbase


Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? 
-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: datbase


1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET
database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your
backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database.
There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a
new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually
(although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have
any caches set on your disk controllers do you?

Kevin
-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: datbase


ok

I did what MS said..
exmerged it out
created a new DB
exmerged it back in

the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up
I get this in the event log
MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error
-1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup

?

Michael Ross
Panduit Corp.
17301 Ridgeland Ave
Tinley Park, IL 60477
MCSE
MS Exchange Administrator

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
Title: RE: datbase



ISinteg won't help - it doesn't look at the structure of the database, 
just some high level logical parsing to make sure the IS is well. As I say, 
tracking down the hardware issue probably won't help you either. 


Kevin

  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up 
  in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware 
  issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests 
  It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. 
  
  -Original Message- From: 
  Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  RE: datbase 
  Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find 
  it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the 
  hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have 
  to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from 
  the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and 
  move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that 
  way.
  Kevin 
  -Original Message- From: Neil 
  Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
  
  These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you 
  find the hardware problem 
  Neil Hobson 
  Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise 
  Systems For Collaborative Solutions 
  -Original Message- From: Ray 
  Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: 
  datbase Subject: RE: datbase 
  Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
  reimporting? -Original Message- 
  From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  datbase 
  1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of 
  the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your 
  backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's 
  not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox 
  server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not 
  always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on 
  your disk controllers do you?
  Kevin -Original 
  Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues Subject: datbase 
  ok 
  I did what MS said.. exmerged it 
  out created a new DB exmerged 
  it back in 
  the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it 
  up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with 
  error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup
  ? 
  Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 
  17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 
  60477 MCSE MS Exchange 
  Administrator 
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Neil Hobson

You'll be lucky to get any questions on Glam Rock names, though.

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 16:39
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: datbase
Subject: RE: datbase


The idea about the phone is a good one. I'll write that down in my
little black book of good ideas.

Of course, you'll miss out when I phone you from Who Wants to be a
Millionaire?.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: datbase


Indeed, that's exactly what I do.  What I meant to say in my first post,
and I don't think it came across very well, is that  even if you export
the data and whack priv.edb, it can still happen again.

The last time I had one of these was after arriving at 10pm back in the
UK from Holland, and getting a call at 2am from one of my colleagues
saying what's does jet error -1018 mean?.  Now I unplug the phone at
night.  :-)

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 16:30
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: datbase
Subject: RE: datbase


Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I
believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the
hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still
have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do
this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server
to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so
you can't do it that way.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: datbase


These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the
hardware problem


Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: datbase
Subject: RE: datbase


Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? 
-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: datbase


1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET
database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your
backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database.
There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a
new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually
(although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have
any caches set on your disk controllers do you?

Kevin
-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: datbase


ok

I did what MS said..
exmerged it out
created a new DB
exmerged it back in

the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up
I get this in the event log
MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error
-1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup

?

Michael Ross
Panduit Corp.
17301 Ridgeland Ave
Tinley Park, IL 60477
MCSE
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Rob Wilcox
Title: Message



So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As 
someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. 
Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write 
anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do 
that? Maybe other vendors do similar?

Thanks
Rob


-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up 
in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware 
issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests 
It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. 
-Original Message- From: Snook, 
Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
RE: datbase 
Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. 
I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the 
hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to 
move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the 
start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move 
mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that 
way.
Kevin 
-Original Message- From: Neil 
Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 

These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find 
the hardware problem 
Neil Hobson 
Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft 
Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems 
For Collaborative Solutions 
-Original Message- From: Ray 
Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: 
datbase Subject: RE: datbase 
Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
datbase 
1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the 
JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your 
backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's 
not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox 
server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not 
always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your 
disk controllers do you?
Kevin -Original Message- 
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin 
Issues Subject: datbase 
ok 
I did what MS said.. exmerged it 
out created a new DB exmerged it 
back in 
the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up 
I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error 
-1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup
? 
Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 
17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 
60477 MCSE MS Exchange 
Administrator 
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Rob Wilcox
Title: Message



Did you look at :- http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q248406
Thanks
Rob


-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 16:05To: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
i ran 
an eseutil /g and it came up with 1206

  
  -Original Message-From: Snook, Kevin S 
  (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 
  27, 2002 10:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: datbase
  ISinteg won't help - it doesn't look at the structure of the database, 
  just some high level logical parsing to make sure the IS is well. As I say, 
  tracking down the hardware issue probably won't help you either. 
  
  
  Kevin
  
-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put 
up in that site. So Ill have to track down the 
hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test 
alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it 
should. 
-Original Message- From: 
Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find 
it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the 
hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have 
to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from 
the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and 
move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it 
that way.
Kevin 
-Original Message- From: 
Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 

These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you 
find the hardware problem 
Neil Hobson 
Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For 
Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions 

-Original Message- From: Ray 
Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: 
datbase 
Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
reimporting? -Original Message- 
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
datbase 
1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of 
the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because 
your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. 
There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new 
mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually 
(although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any 
caches set on your disk controllers do you?
Kevin -Original 
Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange 
Admin Issues Subject: datbase 
ok 
I did what MS said.. exmerged it 
out created a new DB exmerged it back in 
the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it 
up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with 
error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup
? 
Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 
17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 
60477 MCSE MS Exchange 
Administrator 
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



ok
this 
is a dell server
i load 
array manager
and my 
virtual disk shows
Read 
policy : Read-Ahead
Write 
Policy : Wrtie- Thru
Cache 
Policy : Direct I/O

I dont 
see any alarms about the disk hardware...

  
  -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As 
  someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. 
  Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write 
  anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards 
  do that? Maybe other vendors do similar?
  
  Thanks
  Rob
  
  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 
  15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up 
  in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware 
  issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests 
  It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. 
  
  -Original Message- From: 
  Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  RE: datbase 
  Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find 
  it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the 
  hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have 
  to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from 
  the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and 
  move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that 
  way.
  Kevin 
  -Original Message- From: Neil 
  Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
  
  These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you 
  find the hardware problem 
  Neil Hobson 
  Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise 
  Systems For Collaborative Solutions 
  -Original Message- From: Ray 
  Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: 
  datbase Subject: RE: datbase 
  Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
  reimporting? -Original Message- 
  From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  datbase 
  1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of 
  the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your 
  backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's 
  not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox 
  server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not 
  always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on 
  your disk controllers do you?
  Kevin -Original 
  Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues Subject: datbase 
  ok 
  I did what MS said.. exmerged it 
  out created a new DB exmerged 
  it back in 
  the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it 
  up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with 
  error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup
  ? 
  Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 
  17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 
  60477 MCSE MS Exchange 
  Administrator 
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



What 
kind of RAIDController? What version is the firmware at? I'll 
bet I know what the problem is and if you go to Dell's support site and query on 
your RAID controller about Disk I/O's they'll have big red letters telling you 
what is wrong...


Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email 
http://www.tripathimaging.com 


  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:33 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  ok
  this 
  is a dell server
  i 
  load array manager
  and 
  my virtual disk shows
  Read 
  policy : Read-Ahead
  Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
  Cache Policy : Direct I/O
  
  I 
  dont see any alarms about the disk hardware...
  

-Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As 
someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. 
Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write 
anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards 
do that? Maybe other vendors do similar?

Thanks
Rob


-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 
15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put 
up in that site. So Ill have to track down the 
hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test 
alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it 
should. 
-Original Message- From: 
Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find 
it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the 
hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have 
to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from 
the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and 
move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it 
that way.
Kevin 
-Original Message- From: 
Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 

These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you 
find the hardware problem 
Neil Hobson 
Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For 
Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions 

-Original Message- From: Ray 
Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: 
datbase 
Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
reimporting? -Original Message- 
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
datbase 
1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of 
the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because 
your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. 
There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new 
mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually 
(although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any 
caches set on your disk controllers do you?
Kevin -Original 
Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange 
Admin Issues Subject: datbase 
ok 
I did what MS said.. exmerged it 
out created a new DB exmerged it back in 
the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it 
up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with 
error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup
? 
Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 
17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 
60477 MCSE MS Exchange 
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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Ray Zorz
Title: Message



Are 
you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember 
somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the 
Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. 

  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  ok
  this 
  is a dell server
  i 
  load array manager
  and 
  my virtual disk shows
  Read 
  policy : Read-Ahead
  Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
  Cache Policy : Direct I/O
  
  I 
  dont see any alarms about the disk hardware...
  

-Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As 
someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. 
Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write 
anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards 
do that? Maybe other vendors do similar?

Thanks
Rob


-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 
15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put 
up in that site. So Ill have to track down the 
hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test 
alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it 
should. 
-Original Message- From: 
Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find 
it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the 
hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have 
to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from 
the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and 
move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it 
that way.
Kevin 
-Original Message- From: 
Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 

These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you 
find the hardware problem 
Neil Hobson 
Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For 
Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions 

-Original Message- From: Ray 
Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: 
datbase 
Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
reimporting? -Original Message- 
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
datbase 
1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of 
the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because 
your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. 
There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new 
mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually 
(although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any 
caches set on your disk controllers do you?
Kevin -Original 
Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange 
Admin Issues Subject: datbase 
ok 
I did what MS said.. exmerged it 
out created a new DB exmerged it back in 
the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it 
up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with 
error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup
? 
Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 
17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 
60477 MCSE MS Exchange 
Administrator 
List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 

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RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Chris Norris
Title: Message



What 
model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell 
raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the 
drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, 
not just Exchange.

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  Are 
  you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember 
  somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check 
  the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. 
  
-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
ok
this is a dell server
i 
load array manager
and my virtual disk shows
Read policy : Read-Ahead
Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
Cache Policy : Direct I/O

I 
dont see any alarms about the disk hardware...

  
  -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 
  2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: datbase
  So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same 
  hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by 
  hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and 
  does your controller write anything to it's own internal event 
  logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other 
  vendors do similar?
  
  Thanks
  Rob
  
  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 
  15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  True, but the problem is I don't have another server to 
  put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the 
  hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test 
  alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it 
  should. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
  Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to 
  find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you 
  find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will 
  still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well 
  do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server 
  to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so 
  you can't do it that way.
  Kevin 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  datbase 
  These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless 
  you find the hardware problem 
  Neil Hobson 
  Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For 
  Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions 
  
  -Original Message- From: 
  Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: 
  datbase 
  Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
  reimporting? -Original Message- 
  From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  datbase 
  1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure 
  of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply 
  because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad 
  database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to 
  create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's 
  usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't 
  have any caches set on your disk controllers do you?
  Kevin -Original 
  Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange 
  Admin Issues Subject: datbase 
  ok 
  I did what MS said.. exmerged it 
  out created a new DB exmerged it back in 
  the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it 
  up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with 
  error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous 
backup
  ? 
  Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 
  17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, 
  IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange 
  Administrator 
  List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Ray Zorz
Title: Message



See 
Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of 
the firmware. 

  -Original Message-From: Chris Norris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  What 
  model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the 
  Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the 
  drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before 
  loadingW2k, not just Exchange.
  
-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid 
controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and 
exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for 
Exchange. 

  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  ok
  this is a dell server
  i load array manager
  and my virtual disk shows
  Read policy : Read-Ahead
  Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
  Cache Policy : Direct I/O
  
  I dont see any alarms about the disk 
hardware...
  

-Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 
2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: datbase
So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same 
hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by 
hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and 
does your controller write anything to it's own internal event 
logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other 
vendors do similar?

Thanks
Rob


-Original Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 
2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
True, but the problem is I don't have another server to 
put up in that site. So Ill have to track down 
the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test 
alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it 
should. 
-Original Message- From: 
Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to 
find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you 
find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you 
will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might 
as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a 
mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a 
good backup so you can't do it that way.
Kevin 
-Original Message- From: 
Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
datbase 
These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless 
you find the hardware problem 
Neil Hobson 
Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For 
Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions 

-Original Message- From: 
Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: 
datbase 
Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
reimporting? -Original Message- 
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
1018 errors are internal problems with the page 
structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up 
simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing 
up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, 
I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all 
mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with 
your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do 
you?
Kevin -Original 
Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase 

ok 
I did what MS said.. exmerged it 
out created a new DB

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



Doesn't matter which model of the server, it's specifically their PERC 
controllers in need of a firmware upgrade. It is not OS dependant 
either...


Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email 
http://www.tripathimaging.com 


  
  -Original Message-From: Chris Norris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:17 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  What 
  model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the 
  Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the 
  drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before 
  loadingW2k, not just Exchange.
  
-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid 
controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and 
exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for 
Exchange. 

  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  ok
  this is a dell server
  i load array manager
  and my virtual disk shows
  Read policy : Read-Ahead
  Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
  Cache Policy : Direct I/O
  
  I dont see any alarms about the disk 
hardware...
  

-Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 
2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: datbase
So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same 
hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by 
hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and 
does your controller write anything to it's own internal event 
logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other 
vendors do similar?

Thanks
Rob


-Original Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 
2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
True, but the problem is I don't have another server to 
put up in that site. So Ill have to track down 
the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test 
alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it 
should. 
-Original Message- From: 
Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to 
find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you 
find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you 
will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might 
as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a 
mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a 
good backup so you can't do it that way.
Kevin 
-Original Message- From: 
Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
datbase 
These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless 
you find the hardware problem 
Neil Hobson 
Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For 
Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions 

-Original Message- From: 
Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: 
datbase 
Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
reimporting? -Original Message- 
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
1018 errors are internal problems with the page 
structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up 
simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing 
up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, 
I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all 
mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with 
your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do 
you?
Kevin -Original 
Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



That 
would be Ely, Don... ;o)


Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email 
http://www.tripathimaging.com 


  
  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  See 
  Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update 
  of the firmware. 
  
-Original Message-From: Chris Norris 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware 
of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the 
firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware 
before loadingW2k, not just Exchange.

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid 
  controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and 
  exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically 
  for Exchange. 
  
-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
ok
this is a dell server
i load array manager
and my virtual disk shows
Read policy : Read-Ahead
Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
Cache Policy : Direct I/O

I dont see any alarms about the disk 
hardware...

  
  -Original Message-From: Rob 
  Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  So you have exmerged out and recreated on the 
  same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be 
  caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your 
  controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own 
  internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? 
  Maybe other vendors do similar?
  
  Thanks
  Rob
  
  
  -Original Message-From: 
  MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 
  2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: datbase
  True, but the problem is I don't have another server 
  to put up in that site. So Ill have to track 
  down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri 
  -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. 
  Like it should. 
  -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 
  AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: datbase 
  Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to 
  find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if 
  you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so 
  you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you 
  might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add 
  a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't 
  have a good backup so you can't do it that way.
  Kevin 
  -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  datbase 
  These errors are typically hardware problems, so 
  unless you find the hardware problem 
  Neil Hobson 
  Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For 
  Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions 
  
  -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 
  Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: 
  datbase 
  Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
  reimporting? -Original Message- 
  From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
  1018 errors are internal problems with the page 
  structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed 
  up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in 
  backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread violettek
Title: Message



We had 
the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have not seen 
it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not as 
"straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of tries 
to get the procedure right.

Kevin

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  See 
  Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update 
  of the firmware. 
  
-Original Message-From: Chris Norris 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
    datbase
What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware 
of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the 
firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware 
before loadingW2k, not just Exchange.

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
      datbase
  Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid 
  controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and 
  exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically 
  for Exchange. 
  
-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
    datbase
ok
this is a dell server
i load array manager
and my virtual disk shows
Read policy : Read-Ahead
Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
Cache Policy : Direct I/O

I dont see any alarms about the disk 
hardware...

  
  -Original Message-From: Rob 
  Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  So you have exmerged out and recreated on the 
  same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be 
  caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your 
  controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own 
  internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? 
  Maybe other vendors do similar?
  
  Thanks
  Rob
  
  
  -Original Message-From: 
  MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 
  2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
      RE: datbase
  True, but the problem is I don't have another server 
  to put up in that site. So Ill have to track 
  down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri 
  -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. 
  Like it should. 
  -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 
  AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: datbase 
  Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to 
  find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if 
  you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so 
  you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you 
  might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add 
  a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't 
  have a good backup so you can't do it that way.
  Kevin 
  -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
      datbase 
  These errors are typically hardware problems, so 
  unless you find the hardware problem 
  Neil Hobson 
  Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For 
  Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions 
  
  -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 
  Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: 
      datbase 
  Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and 
  reimporting? -Original Message- 
  From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 
  1018 errors are internal problems with the page 
  structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed 
  up simply because your backup program figures there'

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Zangara, Jim
Title: Message



bet this is what caused my 
corruption as well.

When the firmware is 
flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical machine 
I can build to as a restore server if needed.



Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere 
Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura 
Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I'm moving to Mars next week, so if 
you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  We 
  had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have 
  not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not 
  as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of 
  tries to get the procedure right.
  
  Kevin
  
-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
    datbase
See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved 
via an update of the firmware. 

  -Original Message-From: Chris Norris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
      datbase
  What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am 
  aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns 
  the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the 
  firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange.
  
-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
    datbase
Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid 
controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and 
exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically 
for Exchange. 

  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
      datbase
  ok
  this is a dell server
  i load array manager
  and my virtual disk shows
  Read policy : Read-Ahead
  Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
  Cache Policy : Direct I/O
  
  I dont see any alarms about the disk 
  hardware...
  

-Original Message-From: Rob 
Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
So you have exmerged out and recreated on the 
same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be 
caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your 
controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own 
internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do 
that? Maybe other vendors do similar?

Thanks
Rob


-Original Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 
2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
        RE: datbase
True, but the problem is I don't have another server 
to put up in that site. So Ill have to track 
down the hardware issue I did an isinteg 
-pri -test alltests It came back with all 
Zero's .. Like it should. 
-Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 
AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
    Subject: RE: datbase 
Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying 
to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even 
if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be 
corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My 
view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way 
to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move 
mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it 
that way.
Kevin 
-Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
        RE: datbase 
These errors are typically hardware problems, so 
unless you find the hardware problem 
Neil Hobson 
Silver

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



Nope, 
no data loss issues in the numerous servers I have 
encountered...


Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email 
http://www.tripathimaging.com 


  
  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  bet this is what caused 
  my corruption as well.
  
  When the firmware is 
  flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical 
  machine I can build to as a restore server if needed.
  
  
  
  Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer 
  Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 
  15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 
  461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  I'm moving to Mars next week, so if 
  you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
We 
had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have 
not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was 
not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple 
of tries to get the procedure right.

Kevin

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
      datbase
  See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved 
  via an update of the firmware. 
  
-Original Message-From: Chris Norris 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
    datbase
What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am 
aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns 
the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the 
firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange.

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
      datbase
  Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid 
  controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and 
  exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look 
  specifically for Exchange. 
  
-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
        RE: datbase
ok
this is a dell server
i load array manager
and my virtual disk shows
Read policy : Read-Ahead
Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
Cache Policy : Direct I/O

I dont see any alarms about the disk 
hardware...

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  So you have exmerged out and recreated on the 
  same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be 
  caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your 
  controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own 
  internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do 
  that? Maybe other vendors do similar?
  
  Thanks
  Rob
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 
  15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
      RE: datbase
  True, but the problem is I don't have another 
  server to put up in that site. So Ill have 
  to track down the hardware issue I did an 
  isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back 
  with all Zero's .. Like it should. 
  -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 
  AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: datbase 
  Trouble is of course that you can spend ages 
  trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 
  errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may 
  still be corrupted so you will still have to mov

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



Shouldn't take you too long now... After you flash the firmware, 
make sure you update the drivers right away...


Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email 
http://www.tripathimaging.com 


  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:11 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  Ive 
  found my drivers were under par.
  Ive 
  found my firmware is under par. Im trying to flash them 
now
  

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
2:05 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
Nope, no data loss issues in the numerous servers I have 
encountered...


Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct 
(336) 516-4519 - 
Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com 


  
  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 
  2002 2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  bet this is what 
  caused my corruption as well.
  
  When the firmware is 
  flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical 
  machine I can build to as a restore server if needed.
  
  
  
  Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer 
  Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 
  15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: 
  (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  I'm moving to Mars next week, 
  so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and 
drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and 
driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions 
stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure 
right.

Kevin

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
      datbase
  See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and 
  solved via an update of the firmware. 
  
-Original Message-From: Chris Norris 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
        RE: datbase
What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I 
am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server 
concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must 
upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just 
Exchange.

  -Original Message-From: Ray 
  Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 
  27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid 
  controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells 
  and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look 
  specifically for Exchange. 
  
-Original Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
ok
this is a dell server
i load array manager
and my virtual disk 
shows
Read policy : 
Read-Ahead
Write Policy : Wrtie- 
Thru
Cache Policy : Direct 
I/O

I dont see any alarms about the disk 
hardware...

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  So you have exmerged out and recreated on 
  the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are 
  likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the 
  caching on your controller, and does your controller write 
  anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread violettek
Title: Message



Also 
after the firmware flash, powerdown the box not just a 
reboot.

  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:11 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  Ive 
  found my drivers were under par.
  Ive 
  found my firmware is under par. Im trying to flash them 
now
  

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
2:05 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
Nope, no data loss issues in the numerous servers I have 
encountered...


Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct 
(336) 516-4519 - 
Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com 


  
  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 
  2002 2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  bet this is what 
  caused my corruption as well.
  
  When the firmware is 
  flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical 
  machine I can build to as a restore server if needed.
  
  
  
  Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer 
  Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 
  15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: 
  (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  I'm moving to Mars next week, 
  so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and 
drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and 
driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions 
stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure 
right.

Kevin

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
      datbase
  See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and 
  solved via an update of the firmware. 
  
-Original Message-From: Chris Norris 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
        RE: datbase
What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I 
am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server 
concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must 
upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just 
Exchange.

  -Original Message-From: Ray 
  Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 
  27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid 
  controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells 
  and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look 
  specifically for Exchange. 
  
-Original Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
ok
this is a dell server
i load array manager
and my virtual disk 
shows
Read policy : 
Read-Ahead
Write Policy : Wrtie- 
Thru
Cache Policy : Direct 
I/O

I dont see any alarms about the disk 
hardware...

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  So you have exmerged out and recreated on 
  the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are 
  likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the 
  caching on your controller, and does your controller write 
  anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP 
  NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do 
  similar?
  
  Thanks
   

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread violettek
Title: Message



We did 
not run into any data loss.

Kevin

  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  bet this is what caused 
  my corruption as well.
  
  When the firmware is 
  flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical 
  machine I can build to as a restore server if needed.
  
  
  
  Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer 
  Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 
  15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 
  461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  I'm moving to Mars next week, so if 
  you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
We 
had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have 
not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was 
not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple 
of tries to get the procedure right.

Kevin

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
      datbase
  See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved 
  via an update of the firmware. 
  
-Original Message-From: Chris Norris 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
    datbase
What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am 
aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns 
the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the 
firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange.

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
      datbase
  Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid 
  controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and 
  exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look 
  specifically for Exchange. 
  
-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
        RE: datbase
ok
this is a dell server
i load array manager
and my virtual disk shows
Read policy : Read-Ahead
Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
Cache Policy : Direct I/O

I dont see any alarms about the disk 
hardware...

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  So you have exmerged out and recreated on the 
  same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be 
  caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your 
  controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own 
  internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do 
  that? Maybe other vendors do similar?
  
  Thanks
  Rob
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 
  15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
      RE: datbase
  True, but the problem is I don't have another 
  server to put up in that site. So Ill have 
  to track down the hardware issue I did an 
  isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back 
  with all Zero's .. Like it should. 
  -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 
  AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: datbase 
  Trouble is of course that you can spend ages 
  trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 
  errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may 
  still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the 
  disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. 
  Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and 
  move mailboxes

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



why?

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 2:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  Also 
  after the firmware flash, powerdown the box not just a 
  reboot.
  
-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:11 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
Ive found my drivers were under par.
Ive found my firmware is under par. Im trying to flash them 
now

  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 
  2002 2:05 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  Nope, no data loss issues in the numerous servers I have 
  encountered...
  
  
  Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. 
  (336) 290-8293 - 
  Direct (336) 
  516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com 
  
  

-Original Message-From: Zangara, 
Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
March 27, 2002 2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
bet this is what 
caused my corruption as well.

When the firmware 
is flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an 
identical machine I can build to as a restore server if 
needed.



Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer 
Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel 
Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 
91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I'm moving to Mars next week, 
so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and 
  drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash 
  and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions 
  stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure 
  right.
  
  Kevin
  
-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 
2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and 
solved via an update of the firmware. 

  -Original Message-From: 
  Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I 
  am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server 
  concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must 
  upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just 
  Exchange.
  
-Original Message-From: 
Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
Are you sure you have the latest drivers 
for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a 
problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the 
Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. 


  -Original Message-From: 
  MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange 
  Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
      datbase
  ok
  this is a dell server
  i load array manager
  and my virtual disk 
  shows
  Read policy : 
  Read-Ahead
  Write Policy : Wrtie- 
  Thru
  Cache Policy : Direct 
  I/O
  
  I dont see any alarms about the disk 
  hardware...
  

-Original 
Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
        datbase
So you have 
exmerged out and

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



Good 
question! I've probably done 20 or so servers and not ever shut one down 
completely.


Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email 
http://www.tripathimaging.com 


  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:24 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  why?
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
March 27, 2002 2:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
Also after the firmware flash, powerdown the box not just a 
reboot.

  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:11 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  Ive found my drivers were under par.
  Ive found my firmware is under par. Im trying to flash them 
  now
  

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 
2002 2:05 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: datbase
Nope, no data loss issues in the numerous servers I have 
encountered...


Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. 
(336) 290-8293 - 
Direct (336) 
516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com 


  
  -Original Message-From: Zangara, 
  Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  bet this is what 
  caused my corruption as well.
  
  When the firmware 
  is flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an 
  identical machine I can build to as a restore server if 
  needed.
  
  
  
  Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer 
  Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel 
  Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 
  91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  I'm moving to Mars next 
  week, so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and 
drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash 
and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions 
stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure 
right.

Kevin

  -Original Message-From: Ray 
  Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 
  27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and 
  solved via an update of the firmware. 
  
-Original Message-From: 
Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
What model Dell server? The 
2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid 
controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not 
the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware 
before loadingW2k, not just Exchange.

  -Original Message-From: 
  Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange 
  Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
      datbase
  Are you sure you have the latest drivers 
  for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a 
  problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the 
  Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. 
  
  
-Original 
Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 
27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
ok
this is a dell 
server
i load array 
manager
and my virtual disk 
shows
  

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Rick Ward - HQ
Title: Message



Any 
firmware upgrade is a "potential" for data loss.. anyone that tells you 
otherwise hasn't been an Admin long or has just been plain lucky. 
Before making ANY server related changes:

In a 
word - BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP

If you 
have any problems, rollback the firmware/drivers and contact your vendor with 
your issue. At the very least you'll have the most current, if not partially 
corrupt, data. Something is better than nothing in my book.

Let me 
know how you make out.. we run many Dell 2400 series here 
too.
-Rick

-Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
11:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
bet this is what caused my 
corruption as well.

When the firmware is 
flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical machine 
I can build to as a restore server if needed.



Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere 
Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura 
Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I'm moving to Mars next week, so if 
you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  We 
  had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have 
  not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not 
  as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of 
  tries to get the procedure right.
  
  Kevin
  
-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved 
via an update of the firmware. 

  -Original Message-From: Chris Norris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am 
  aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns 
  the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the 
  firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange.
  
-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid 
controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and 
exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically 
for Exchange. 

  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  ok
  this is a dell server
  i load array manager
  and my virtual disk shows
  Read policy : Read-Ahead
  Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
  Cache Policy : Direct I/O
  
  I dont see any alarms about the disk 
  hardware...
  

-Original Message-From: Rob 
Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
        IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
So you have exmerged out and recreated on the 
same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be 
caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your 
controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own 
internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do 
that? Maybe other vendors do similar?

Thanks
Rob


-Original Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 
2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
    RE: datbase
True, but the problem is I don't have another server 
to put up in that site. So Ill have to track 
down the hardware issue I did an isinteg 
-pri -test alltests It came back with all 
Zero's .. Like it should. 
-Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 
AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
        Subject: RE: datbase 
Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying 
to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even 
if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be 
 

RE: datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



Ahh, 
but in his case, backup, backup, backup is not working with all of those 
1018's. ;o)

And I 
most certainly wouldn't attempt any upgrade w/o backing my data up. Even 
if that meant a file copy to another server! :o)


Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email 
http://www.tripathimaging.com 


  
  -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:47 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  Any 
  firmware upgrade is a "potential" for data loss.. anyone that tells you 
  otherwise hasn't been an Admin long or has just been plain lucky. 
  Before making ANY server related changes:
  
  In a 
  word - BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP
  
  If 
  you have any problems, rollback the firmware/drivers and contact your vendor 
  with your issue. At the very least you'll have the most current, if not 
  partially corrupt, data. Something is better than nothing in my 
  book.
  
  Let 
  me know how you make out.. we run many Dell 2400 series here 
  too.
  -Rick
  
  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  11:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  bet this is what caused 
  my corruption as well.
  
  When the firmware is 
  flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical 
  machine I can build to as a restore server if needed.
  
  
  
  Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer 
  Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 
  15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 
  461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  I'm moving to Mars next week, so if 
  you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
We 
had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have 
not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was 
not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple 
of tries to get the procedure right.

Kevin

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved 
  via an update of the firmware. 
  
-Original Message-From: Chris Norris 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
datbase
What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am 
aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns 
the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the 
firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange.

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  datbase
  Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid 
  controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and 
  exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look 
  specifically for Exchange. 
  
-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
    RE: datbase
ok
this is a dell server
i load array manager
and my virtual disk shows
Read policy : Read-Ahead
Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru
Cache Policy : Direct I/O

I dont see any alarms about the disk 
hardware...

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Rob Wilcox 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
      IssuesSubject: RE: datbase
  So you have exmerged out and recreated on the 
  same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be 
  caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your 
  controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own 
  internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do 
  that? Maybe other vendors do similar?
  
  Thanks
  Rob
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

RE : datbase

2002-03-27 Thread Gérard Dumazet
Title: Message









I had the same pb
recently and creating new server was the solution with MS support





-Message d'origine-
De: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Envoyé: mercredi 27 mars
2002 15:56
À: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Objet: RE: datbase





1018
errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It
prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program
figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a
fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site
and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a
problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers
do you?











Kevin





-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: datbase



ok











I did what MS said..





exmerged it out





created a new DB





exmerged it back in











the store runs, and people work, but
i cannot back it up





I get this in the event log





MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page
(118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup



?









Michael Ross

Panduit Corp.

17301 Ridgeland Ave

Tinley Park, IL 60477

MCSE

MS Exchange Administrator







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