RE: RE : datbase
Title: Message i wound up having to delete my pub.ebd and create a new one. thank god no folders were homed there. -Original Message-From: Gérard Dumazet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:09 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE : datbase I had the same pb recently and creating new server was the solution with MS support -Message d'origine-De: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé: mercredi 27 mars 2002 15:56À: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesObjet: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: RE : datbase
Title: Message Did the Exmerge here as well - Went great except for anyone with server based rules. Seemed to corrupt the space where exchange stores them. Had to export the rules - blast them - and re-import. Other than that I have a clean store and getting solid backups - totally worth it!! Jim Zangara, MCSE+I, A+IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 12:08 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: RE : datbase i wound up having to delete my pub.ebd and create a new one. thank god no folders were homed there. -Original Message-From: Gérard Dumazet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:09 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE : datbase I had the same pb recently and creating new server was the solution with MS support -Message d'origine-De: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé: mercredi 27 mars 2002 15:56À: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesObjet: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: RE : datbase
Title: Message I don't think that will have solved your problem - I suspect you will encounter it again. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 01 April 2002 21:08To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: RE : datbase i wound up having to delete my pub.ebd and create a new one. thank god no folders were homed there. -Original Message-From: Gérard Dumazet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:09 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE : datbase I had the same pb recently and creating new server was the solution with MS support -Message d'origine-De: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé: mercredi 27 mars 2002 15:56À: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesObjet: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
Title: Message Call PSS. 1018 errors are bad. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
Title: Message Get back on the phone with MS. The problem isn't solved, so you can still keep the ticket open. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 6:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
Title: Message GIVE 'em heck !!! -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 09:16To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Get back on the phone with MS. The problem isn't solved, so you can still keep the ticket open. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 6:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
Title: Message got info on those errors? -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:30 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Call PSS. 1018 errors are bad. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
Title: Message im not sure about the disk caching its a server in japan, and im in chicago. -Original Message-From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:56 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
Title: Message Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message-From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
Indeed, that's exactly what I do. What I meant to say in my first post, and I don't think it came across very well, is that even if you export the data and whack priv.edb, it can still happen again. The last time I had one of these was after arriving at 10pm back in the UK from Holland, and getting a call at 2am from one of my colleagues saying what's does jet error -1018 mean?. Now I unplug the phone at night. :-) Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 16:30 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
Title: RE: datbase ISinteg won't help - it doesn't look at the structure of the database, just some high level logical parsing to make sure the IS is well. As I say, tracking down the hardware issue probably won't help you either. Kevin -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
You'll be lucky to get any questions on Glam Rock names, though. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 16:39 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase The idea about the phone is a good one. I'll write that down in my little black book of good ideas. Of course, you'll miss out when I phone you from Who Wants to be a Millionaire?. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Indeed, that's exactly what I do. What I meant to say in my first post, and I don't think it came across very well, is that even if you export the data and whack priv.edb, it can still happen again. The last time I had one of these was after arriving at 10pm back in the UK from Holland, and getting a call at 2am from one of my colleagues saying what's does jet error -1018 mean?. Now I unplug the phone at night. :-) Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 16:30 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any
RE: datbase
Title: Message So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: datbase
Title: Message Did you look at :- http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q248406 Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 16:05To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase i ran an eseutil /g and it came up with 1206 -Original Message-From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ISinteg won't help - it doesn't look at the structure of the database, just some high level logical parsing to make sure the IS is well. As I say, tracking down the hardware issue probably won't help you either. Kevin -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com
RE: datbase
Title: Message ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http
RE: datbase
Title: Message What kind of RAIDController? What version is the firmware at? I'll bet I know what the problem is and if you go to Dell's support site and query on your RAID controller about Disk I/O's they'll have big red letters telling you what is wrong... Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:33 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom
RE: datbase
Title: Message Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received
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Title: Message What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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Title: Message See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB
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Title: Message Doesn't matter which model of the server, it's specifically their PERC controllers in need of a firmware upgrade. It is not OS dependant either... Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto
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Title: Message That would be Ely, Don... ;o) Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix
RE: datbase
Title: Message We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure right. Kevin -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 27 March 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: datbase Subject: RE: datbase Didn't he do all that by exmerging out, deleting and reimporting? -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there'
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Title: Message bet this is what caused my corruption as well. When the firmware is flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical machine I can build to as a restore server if needed. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm moving to Mars next week, so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure right. Kevin -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes. Remember you don't have a good backup so you can't do it that way. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase These errors are typically hardware problems, so unless you find the hardware problem Neil Hobson Silver
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Title: Message Nope, no data loss issues in the numerous servers I have encountered... Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase bet this is what caused my corruption as well. When the firmware is flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical machine I can build to as a restore server if needed. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm moving to Mars next week, so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure right. Kevin -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to mov
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Title: Message Shouldn't take you too long now... After you flash the firmware, make sure you update the drivers right away... Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Ive found my drivers were under par. Ive found my firmware is under par. Im trying to flash them now -Original Message-From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:05 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Nope, no data loss issues in the numerous servers I have encountered... Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase bet this is what caused my corruption as well. When the firmware is flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical machine I can build to as a restore server if needed. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm moving to Mars next week, so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure right. Kevin -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don
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Title: Message Also after the firmware flash, powerdown the box not just a reboot. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Ive found my drivers were under par. Ive found my firmware is under par. Im trying to flash them now -Original Message-From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:05 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Nope, no data loss issues in the numerous servers I have encountered... Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase bet this is what caused my corruption as well. When the firmware is flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical machine I can build to as a restore server if needed. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm moving to Mars next week, so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure right. Kevin -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks
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Title: Message We did not run into any data loss. Kevin -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase bet this is what caused my corruption as well. When the firmware is flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical machine I can build to as a restore server if needed. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm moving to Mars next week, so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure right. Kevin -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be corrupted so you will still have to move data off of the disk. My view is that you might as well do this from the start. Easiest way to do that is to add a mailbox server to the site and move mailboxes
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Title: Message why? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Also after the firmware flash, powerdown the box not just a reboot. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Ive found my drivers were under par. Ive found my firmware is under par. Im trying to flash them now -Original Message-From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:05 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Nope, no data loss issues in the numerous servers I have encountered... Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase bet this is what caused my corruption as well. When the firmware is flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical machine I can build to as a restore server if needed. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm moving to Mars next week, so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure right. Kevin -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and
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Title: Message Good question! I've probably done 20 or so servers and not ever shut one down completely. Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase why? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Also after the firmware flash, powerdown the box not just a reboot. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Ive found my drivers were under par. Ive found my firmware is under par. Im trying to flash them now -Original Message-From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:05 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Nope, no data loss issues in the numerous servers I have encountered... Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase bet this is what caused my corruption as well. When the firmware is flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical machine I can build to as a restore server if needed. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm moving to Mars next week, so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure right. Kevin -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows
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Title: Message Any firmware upgrade is a "potential" for data loss.. anyone that tells you otherwise hasn't been an Admin long or has just been plain lucky. Before making ANY server related changes: In a word - BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP If you have any problems, rollback the firmware/drivers and contact your vendor with your issue. At the very least you'll have the most current, if not partially corrupt, data. Something is better than nothing in my book. Let me know how you make out.. we run many Dell 2400 series here too. -Rick -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase bet this is what caused my corruption as well. When the firmware is flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical machine I can build to as a restore server if needed. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm moving to Mars next week, so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure right. Kevin -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 15:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase True, but the problem is I don't have another server to put up in that site. So Ill have to track down the hardware issue I did an isinteg -pri -test alltests It came back with all Zero's .. Like it should. -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: datbase Trouble is of course that you can spend ages trying to find it. I believe (through my experience with 1018 errors), even if you find the hardware problem the structure may still be
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Title: Message Ahh, but in his case, backup, backup, backup is not working with all of those 1018's. ;o) And I most certainly wouldn't attempt any upgrade w/o backing my data up. Even if that meant a file copy to another server! :o) Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:47 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Any firmware upgrade is a "potential" for data loss.. anyone that tells you otherwise hasn't been an Admin long or has just been plain lucky. Before making ANY server related changes: In a word - BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP If you have any problems, rollback the firmware/drivers and contact your vendor with your issue. At the very least you'll have the most current, if not partially corrupt, data. Something is better than nothing in my book. Let me know how you make out.. we run many Dell 2400 series here too. -Rick -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase bet this is what caused my corruption as well. When the firmware is flashed is there any potential for data loss? I have an identical machine I can build to as a restore server if needed. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT ManagerSpecial Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm moving to Mars next week, so if you have any boxes... -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase We had the same problem here. Upgraded the firmware and drivers and have not seen it since. Thought the firmware flash and driver update was not as "straight forward" as the instructions stated. It took a couple of tries to get the procedure right. Kevin -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase See Don Ely's response. He's the one that had a problem and solved via an update of the firmware. -Original Message-From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase What model Dell server? The 2450? The problem I am aware of with the Dell raid controllers on this specific server concerns the firmware, not the drivers. Dell says you must upgrade the firmware before loadingW2k, not just Exchange. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase Are you sure you have the latest drivers for the raid controller? I remember somebody having a problem with Dells and exchange. Might want to check the Dell site and look specifically for Exchange. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase ok this is a dell server i load array manager and my virtual disk shows Read policy : Read-Ahead Write Policy : Wrtie- Thru Cache Policy : Direct I/O I dont see any alarms about the disk hardware... -Original Message-From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: datbase So you have exmerged out and recreated on the same hardware? As someone else said 1018's are likely to be caused by hardware problems. Check out the caching on your controller, and does your controller write anything to it's own internal event logs?? Don't some HP NetRAID cards do that? Maybe other vendors do similar? Thanks Rob -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Title: Message I had the same pb recently and creating new server was the solution with MS support -Message d'origine- De: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé: mercredi 27 mars 2002 15:56 À: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Objet: RE: datbase 1018 errors are internal problems with the page structure of the JET database. It prevents the database being backed up simply because your backup program figures there's no point in backing up a bad database. There's not usually a fix for this. On occasions, I've had to create a new mailbox server in the site and move all mailboxes off. It's usually (although not always) down to a problem with your disk. You don't have any caches set on your disk controllers do you? Kevin -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: datbase ok I did what MS said.. exmerged it out created a new DB exmerged it back in the store runs, and people work, but i cannot back it up I get this in the event log MSExchangeIS (3124) Direct read found corrupted page (118500) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup ? Michael Ross Panduit Corp. 17301 Ridgeland Ave Tinley Park, IL 60477 MCSE MS Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm