RE: Xobni released

2008-05-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not familiar with that joke.

Messageware used to have an offline OWA component.  Maybe they still do.  

I would like an OWA cached mode.  I have clients that do not use Outlook. At 
least one of Exchange's competitors have such a beast.



From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Xobni released 

It's an old joke
 

From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xobni released
 
Now, I need cached mode for OWA.
 
Come again?
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 May 2008 05:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xobni released
 
xobni is not that much different then enabling Instant search on an outlook 
client is it?

functionality-wise?  not too much different.  Xobni does not index calendar, 
contacts, etc. though.

performance-wise? I stopped using instant search for messages months ago.

Now, I need cached mode for OWA.



From: Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Xobni released

Not sure about that indexing thought, xobni is not that much different
then enabling Instant search on an outlook client is it? All it has to
do is make a local index file... Cached mode has lots of advantages and
a few disadvantages, one deploying it in an organization with high
change can lead to offline address book issues at the best of times. I
am a big advocate of cached mode but understanding its sweet spot and
where best to leverage and when to use online mode can help in the
deployment and to the end user experience greatly...

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Xobni released

Only works with cached mode?

That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

On 5/5/08, Administrator wrote:



 Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
some
 organizations have a policy to not use cached mode...




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Xobni released



 This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

 I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own. I can't seem to get
Xobni to
 do so. I am going to test your public folder issue later today.

 Gmail is still 'beta'. :P

 


 From: Carl Houseman 
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 
 Subject: RE: Xobni released

 This is still a beta and still acts like one.



 The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read
when
 they weren't.



 This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking
at
 it. Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read
problem.



 I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...






 From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Xobni released



 Xobni was released publicly today:




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slog
in














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RE: Xobni released

2008-05-06 Thread Sobey, Richard A
Now, I need cached mode for OWA.
 
Come again?
 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 May 2008 05:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xobni released
 
xobni is not that much different then enabling Instant search on an
outlook client is it?

functionality-wise?  not too much different.  Xobni does not index
calendar, contacts, etc. though.

performance-wise? I stopped using instant search for messages months
ago.

Now, I need cached mode for OWA.






From: Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Xobni released

Not sure about that indexing thought, xobni is not that much different
then enabling Instant search on an outlook client is it? All it has to
do is make a local index file... Cached mode has lots of advantages and
a few disadvantages, one deploying it in an organization with high
change can lead to offline address book issues at the best of times. I
am a big advocate of cached mode but understanding its sweet spot and
where best to leverage and when to use online mode can help in the
deployment and to the end user experience greatly...

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Xobni released

Only works with cached mode?

That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

On 5/5/08, Administrator wrote:



 Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
some
 organizations have a policy to not use cached mode...




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Xobni released



 This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

 I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own. I can't seem to get
Xobni to
 do so. I am going to test your public folder issue later today.

 Gmail is still 'beta'. :P

 


 From: Carl Houseman 
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 
 Subject: RE: Xobni released

 This is still a beta and still acts like one.



 The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read
when
 they weren't.



 This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking
at
 it. Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read
problem.



 I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...






 From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Xobni released



 Xobni was released publicly today:




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slog
in














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RE: Xobni released

2008-05-06 Thread Martin Blackstone
It's an old joke

 

From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xobni released

 

Now, I need cached mode for OWA.

 

Come again?

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 May 2008 05:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xobni released

 

xobni is not that much different then enabling Instant search on an
outlook client is it?

functionality-wise?  not too much different.  Xobni does not index calendar,
contacts, etc. though.

performance-wise? I stopped using instant search for messages months ago.

Now, I need cached mode for OWA.





  _  

From: Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Xobni released

Not sure about that indexing thought, xobni is not that much different
then enabling Instant search on an outlook client is it? All it has to
do is make a local index file... Cached mode has lots of advantages and
a few disadvantages, one deploying it in an organization with high
change can lead to offline address book issues at the best of times. I
am a big advocate of cached mode but understanding its sweet spot and
where best to leverage and when to use online mode can help in the
deployment and to the end user experience greatly...

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Xobni released

Only works with cached mode?

That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

On 5/5/08, Administrator wrote:



 Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
some
 organizations have a policy to not use cached mode...




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Xobni released



 This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

 I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own. I can't seem to get
Xobni to
 do so. I am going to test your public folder issue later today.

 Gmail is still 'beta'. :P

 


 From: Carl Houseman 
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 
 Subject: RE: Xobni released

 This is still a beta and still acts like one.



 The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read
when
 they weren't.



 This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking
at
 it. Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read
problem.



 I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...






 From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Xobni released



 Xobni was released publicly today:




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slog
in














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RE: Xobni released

2008-05-06 Thread Senter, John
If you turn cache mode off after install, does it start hitting the
Exchange server or does it stop working?

-Original Message-
From: Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xobni released

Install needs cached mode, in ONLINE mode it wont install...

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xobni released

I don't think that's true though. The FAQ recommends cached mode - and
explicitly notes that if you don't use cached mode you'll abuse the
Exchange
server.

But the documentation may lag behind the beta; and I'm not about to
reindex
my mailbox to test. Sorry :-P

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Xobni released

Only works with cached mode?

That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

On 5/5/08, Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
some
 organizations have a policy to not use cached mode.




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Xobni released



 This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

 I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own.  I can't seem to get
Xobni to
 do so.  I am going to test your public folder issue later today.

 Gmail is still 'beta'. :P

 


 From: Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: Xobni released

 This is still a beta and still acts like one.



 The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read
when
 they weren't.



 This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking
at
 it.  Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read
problem.



 I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...






 From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Xobni released



 Xobni was released publicly today:




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slog
in














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RE: Xobni released

2008-05-06 Thread Barsodi.John
I've had Xobni since Jan. and I recently upgraded my beta version when
this madness started here a few weeks backI was able to get it to
lock up the Information Store on an Exchange 2003 box running on Outlook
2007 online mode.

Yea, use cached mode.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xobni released

I don't think that's true though. The FAQ recommends cached mode - and
explicitly notes that if you don't use cached mode you'll abuse the
Exchange
server.

But the documentation may lag behind the beta; and I'm not about to
reindex
my mailbox to test. Sorry :-P

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Xobni released

Only works with cached mode?

That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

On 5/5/08, Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
some
 organizations have a policy to not use cached mode.




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Xobni released



 This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

 I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own.  I can't seem to get
Xobni to
 do so.  I am going to test your public folder issue later today.

 Gmail is still 'beta'. :P

 


 From: Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: Xobni released

 This is still a beta and still acts like one.



 The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read
when
 they weren't.



 This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking
at
 it.  Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read
problem.



 I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...






 From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Xobni released



 Xobni was released publicly today:




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slog
in














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RE: Xobni released

2008-05-05 Thread Carl Houseman
This is still a beta and still acts like one.

 

The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read when
they weren't.

 

This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking at
it.  Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read problem.

 

I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...

 

 

From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Xobni released

 

Xobni was released publicly today:

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slogin
oref=slogin

 


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RE: Xobni released

2008-05-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own.  I can't seem to get Xobni to do 
so.  I am going to test your public folder issue later today. 

Gmail is still 'beta'. :P



From: Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Xobni released 

This is still a beta and still acts like one.
 
The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read when they 
weren't.
 
This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking at it.  
Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read problem.
 
I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...
 
 

From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Xobni released
 
Xobni was released publicly today:
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slogin
 

 
 

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RE: Xobni released

2008-05-05 Thread Administrator
Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
some organizations have a policy to not use cached mode...

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xobni released

 

This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own.  I can't seem to get Xobni
to do so.  I am going to test your public folder issue later today. 

Gmail is still 'beta'. :P





From: Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Xobni released

This is still a beta and still acts like one.

 

The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read when
they weren't.

 

This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking
at it.  Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read
problem.

 

I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...

 

 

From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Xobni released

 

Xobni was released publicly today:

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slog
in

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: Xobni released

2008-05-05 Thread Kurt Buff
Only works with cached mode?

That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

On 5/5/08, Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and some
 organizations have a policy to not use cached modeā€¦




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Xobni released



 This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

 I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own.  I can't seem to get Xobni to
 do so.  I am going to test your public folder issue later today.

 Gmail is still 'beta'. :P

 


 From: Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: Xobni released

 This is still a beta and still acts like one.



 The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read when
 they weren't.



 This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking at
 it.  Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read problem.



 I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...






 From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Xobni released



 Xobni was released publicly today:



 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slogin














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RE: Xobni released

2008-05-05 Thread Michael B. Smith
I don't think that's true though. The FAQ recommends cached mode - and
explicitly notes that if you don't use cached mode you'll abuse the Exchange
server.

But the documentation may lag behind the beta; and I'm not about to reindex
my mailbox to test. Sorry :-P

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Xobni released

Only works with cached mode?

That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

On 5/5/08, Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
some
 organizations have a policy to not use cached mode.




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Xobni released



 This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

 I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own.  I can't seem to get Xobni to
 do so.  I am going to test your public folder issue later today.

 Gmail is still 'beta'. :P

 


 From: Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: Xobni released

 This is still a beta and still acts like one.



 The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read when
 they weren't.



 This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking at
 it.  Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read problem.



 I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...






 From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Xobni released



 Xobni was released publicly today:



 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slogin














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RE: Xobni released

2008-05-05 Thread Administrator
Not sure about that indexing thought, xobni is not that much different
then enabling Instant search on an outlook client is it?  All it has to
do is make a local index file...  Cached mode has lots of advantages and
a few disadvantages, one deploying it in an organization with high
change can lead to offline address book issues at the best of times.  I
am a big advocate of cached mode but understanding its sweet spot and
where best to leverage and when to use online mode can help in the
deployment and to the end user experience greatly...

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Xobni released

Only works with cached mode?

That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

On 5/5/08, Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
some
 organizations have a policy to not use cached mode...




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Xobni released



 This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

 I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own.  I can't seem to get
Xobni to
 do so.  I am going to test your public folder issue later today.

 Gmail is still 'beta'. :P

 


 From: Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: Xobni released

 This is still a beta and still acts like one.



 The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read
when
 they weren't.



 This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking
at
 it.  Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read
problem.



 I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...






 From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Xobni released



 Xobni was released publicly today:




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slog
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RE: Xobni released

2008-05-05 Thread Administrator
Install needs cached mode, in ONLINE mode it wont install...

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xobni released

I don't think that's true though. The FAQ recommends cached mode - and
explicitly notes that if you don't use cached mode you'll abuse the
Exchange
server.

But the documentation may lag behind the beta; and I'm not about to
reindex
my mailbox to test. Sorry :-P

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Xobni released

Only works with cached mode?

That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

On 5/5/08, Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
some
 organizations have a policy to not use cached mode.




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Xobni released



 This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

 I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own.  I can't seem to get
Xobni to
 do so.  I am going to test your public folder issue later today.

 Gmail is still 'beta'. :P

 


 From: Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: Xobni released

 This is still a beta and still acts like one.



 The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read
when
 they weren't.



 This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking
at
 it.  Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read
problem.



 I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...






 From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Xobni released



 Xobni was released publicly today:




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slog
in














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Re: Xobni released

2008-05-05 Thread Kurt Buff
The google search client, which also indexed Outlook, was cause for a
fair amount of gnashing of teeth by Exchange admins, and even a KB
article or two, IIRC. Don't see that it would be any different for
this tool.

On 5/5/08, Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not sure about that indexing thought, xobni is not that much different
 then enabling Instant search on an outlook client is it?  All it has to
 do is make a local index file...  Cached mode has lots of advantages and
 a few disadvantages, one deploying it in an organization with high
 change can lead to offline address book issues at the best of times.  I
 am a big advocate of cached mode but understanding its sweet spot and
 where best to leverage and when to use online mode can help in the
 deployment and to the end user experience greatly...

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:02 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Xobni released

 Only works with cached mode?

 That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
 Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
 its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

 Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

 On 5/5/08, Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
 some
  organizations have a policy to not use cached mode...
 
 
 
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Xobni released
 
 
 
  This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.
 
  I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own.  I can't seem to get
 Xobni to
  do so.  I am going to test your public folder issue later today.
 
  Gmail is still 'beta'. :P
 
  
 
 
  From: Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Subject: RE: Xobni released
 
  This is still a beta and still acts like one.
 
 
 
  The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read
 when
  they weren't.
 
 
 
  This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking
 at
  it.  Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read
 problem.
 
 
 
  I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Xobni released
 
 
 
  Xobni was released publicly today:
 
 
 
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slog
 in
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Xobni released

2008-05-05 Thread Kurt Buff
Heh.

You're so selfish...

On 5/5/08, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't think that's true though. The FAQ recommends cached mode - and
 explicitly notes that if you don't use cached mode you'll abuse the Exchange
 server.

 But the documentation may lag behind the beta; and I'm not about to reindex
 my mailbox to test. Sorry :-P

 Regards,

 Michael B. Smith
 MCSE/Exchange MVP
 http://TheEssentialExchange.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:02 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Xobni released

 Only works with cached mode?

 That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
 Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
 its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

 Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

 On 5/5/08, Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
 some
  organizations have a policy to not use cached mode.
 
 
 
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Xobni released
 
 
 
  This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.
 
  I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own.  I can't seem to get Xobni to
  do so.  I am going to test your public folder issue later today.
 
  Gmail is still 'beta'. :P
 
  
 
 
  From: Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Subject: RE: Xobni released
 
  This is still a beta and still acts like one.
 
 
 
  The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read when
  they weren't.
 
 
 
  This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking at
  it.  Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read problem.
 
 
 
  I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Xobni released
 
 
 
  Xobni was released publicly today:
 
 
 
  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slogin
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Xobni released

2008-05-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xobni is not that much different then enabling Instant search on an outlook 
client is it?

functionality-wise?  not too much different.  Xobni does not index calendar, 
contacts, etc. though.

performance-wise? I stopped using instant search for messages months ago.

Now, I need cached mode for OWA.



From: Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Xobni released 

Not sure about that indexing thought, xobni is not that much different
then enabling Instant search on an outlook client is it? All it has to
do is make a local index file... Cached mode has lots of advantages and
a few disadvantages, one deploying it in an organization with high
change can lead to offline address book issues at the best of times. I
am a big advocate of cached mode but understanding its sweet spot and
where best to leverage and when to use online mode can help in the
deployment and to the end user experience greatly...

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Xobni released

Only works with cached mode?

That's a stellar selling point. Really. If it were to index an
Exchange box directly, that would be a very bad thing - bring it to
its knees, if more than one or two users used it.

Pity the fools who ban cached mode. That's their problem, not mine.

On 5/5/08, Administrator wrote:



 Only problem I have seen is that Xobni only works with cached mode and
some
 organizations have a policy to not use cached mode...




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Xobni released



 This is one of the few Outlook add-ins I would actually pay for.

 I can get Outlook to max out CPU on its own. I can't seem to get
Xobni to
 do so. I am going to test your public folder issue later today.

 Gmail is still 'beta'. :P

 


 From: Carl Houseman 
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 
 Subject: RE: Xobni released

 This is still a beta and still acts like one.



 The previous beta I tried marked messages in public folders as read
when
 they weren't.



 This one locked up Outlook @ 100% CPU in less than 5 minutes of poking
at
 it. Didn't even get to see if they'd fixed the marked-as-read
problem.



 I'll try it again when the word beta has been banished...






 From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Xobni released



 Xobni was released publicly today:




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/technology/05xobni.html?_r=1oref=slog
in














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