RE: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

2012-07-29 Thread Peter Johnson
That’s only for Direct Access correct? The normal SSL VPN etc works with any 
Windows OS as far as I know

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From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 July 2012 16:51
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Subject: Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

Not as such.

However, UAG only works with Win7 Enterprise or Ultimate, so most folks have 
paid a price one way or the other for the client OS.

Kurt

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Adm sms...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does UAG require CALs?
 I don't believe TMG does.


 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Michael B. Smith 
 mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:

 Be aware that, as of “today” the feature set between TMG and UAG is 
 not identical. You need determine your support requirements BEFORE 
 you spend your money.



 From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:37 AM


 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?



 If your looking to play I would look at forefront UAG as well, as I 
 have heard rumours that they are going to become a single solution, 
 then I would imagine it would include the UAG feature set.



 Graeme



 On 27 July 2012 11:34, Steve Goodman st...@stevieg.org wrote:

 Yes it's Forefront TMG and it's basically the same.



 Steve



 From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
 Sent: 27 July 2012 10:51
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 Subject: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?



 I want to play around with ISA server in a lab, since I have almost 
 zero experience and thought it might be nice to try it with my 
 technet sub. Is it now called Forefront TMG or are they different products?



 Cheers



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Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

2012-07-29 Thread Kurt Buff
Ah - yes.

Should have specified that. It's DA that requires Enterprise or Ultimate.

Kurt

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Peter Johnson
peter.john...@peterstow.com wrote:
 That’s only for Direct Access correct? The normal SSL VPN etc works with any 
 Windows OS as far as I know

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 27 July 2012 16:51
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

 Not as such.

 However, UAG only works with Win7 Enterprise or Ultimate, so most folks have 
 paid a price one way or the other for the client OS.

 Kurt

 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Adm sms...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does UAG require CALs?
 I don't believe TMG does.


 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Michael B. Smith
 mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:

 Be aware that, as of “today” the feature set between TMG and UAG is
 not identical. You need determine your support requirements BEFORE
 you spend your money.



 From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:37 AM


 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?



 If your looking to play I would look at forefront UAG as well, as I
 have heard rumours that they are going to become a single solution,
 then I would imagine it would include the UAG feature set.



 Graeme



 On 27 July 2012 11:34, Steve Goodman st...@stevieg.org wrote:

 Yes it's Forefront TMG and it's basically the same.



 Steve



 From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
 Sent: 27 July 2012 10:51
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?



 I want to play around with ISA server in a lab, since I have almost
 zero experience and thought it might be nice to try it with my
 technet sub. Is it now called Forefront TMG or are they different products?



 Cheers



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Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

2012-07-27 Thread Graeme Carstairs
If your looking to play I would look at forefront UAG as well, as I have
heard rumours that they are going to become a single solution, then I would
imagine it would include the UAG feature set.

Graeme


On 27 July 2012 11:34, Steve Goodman st...@stevieg.org wrote:

  Yes it's Forefront TMG and it's basically the same.

 ** **

 Steve

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 *Sent:* 27 July 2012 10:51
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 *Subject:* Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

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 I want to play around with ISA server in a lab, since I have almost zero
 experience and thought it might be nice to try it with my technet sub. Is
 it now called Forefront TMG or are they different products?

 ** **

 Cheers

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RE: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

2012-07-27 Thread Sobey, Richard A
Thanks all.

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Subject: Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

If your looking to play I would look at forefront UAG as well, as I have heard 
rumours that they are going to become a single solution, then I would imagine 
it would include the UAG feature set.

Graeme

On 27 July 2012 11:34, Steve Goodman 
st...@stevieg.orgmailto:st...@stevieg.org wrote:
Yes it's Forefront TMG and it's basically the same.

Steve

From: Sobey, Richard A 
[mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.ukmailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
Sent: 27 July 2012 10:51
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Subject: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

I want to play around with ISA server in a lab, since I have almost zero 
experience and thought it might be nice to try it with my technet sub. Is it 
now called Forefront TMG or are they different products?

Cheers

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RE: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

2012-07-27 Thread Michael B. Smith
Be aware that, as of today the feature set between TMG and UAG is not 
identical. You need determine your support requirements BEFORE you spend your 
money.

From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

If your looking to play I would look at forefront UAG as well, as I have heard 
rumours that they are going to become a single solution, then I would imagine 
it would include the UAG feature set.

Graeme

On 27 July 2012 11:34, Steve Goodman 
st...@stevieg.orgmailto:st...@stevieg.org wrote:
Yes it's Forefront TMG and it's basically the same.

Steve

From: Sobey, Richard A 
[mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.ukmailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
Sent: 27 July 2012 10:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

I want to play around with ISA server in a lab, since I have almost zero 
experience and thought it might be nice to try it with my technet sub. Is it 
now called Forefront TMG or are they different products?

Cheers

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Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

2012-07-27 Thread Adm
Does UAG require CALs?
I don't believe TMG does.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

  Be aware that, as of “today” the feature set between TMG and UAG is not
 identical. You need determine your support requirements BEFORE you spend
 your money.

 ** **

 *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, July 27, 2012 6:37 AM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

 ** **

 If your looking to play I would look at forefront UAG as well, as I have
 heard rumours that they are going to become a single solution, then I would
 imagine it would include the UAG feature set.

 ** **

 Graeme

 ** **

 On 27 July 2012 11:34, Steve Goodman st...@stevieg.org wrote:

 Yes it's Forefront TMG and it's basically the same.

  

 Steve

  

 *From:* Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
 *Sent:* 27 July 2012 10:51
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

  

 I want to play around with ISA server in a lab, since I have almost zero
 experience and thought it might be nice to try it with my technet sub. Is
 it now called Forefront TMG or are they different products?

  

 Cheers

  

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Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

2012-07-27 Thread Kurt Buff
True, but installing UAG will install TMG - it's a hard dependency, AFAICT.

Kurt

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 Be aware that, as of “today” the feature set between TMG and UAG is not
 identical. You need determine your support requirements BEFORE you spend
 your money.



 From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:37 AM


 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?



 If your looking to play I would look at forefront UAG as well, as I have
 heard rumours that they are going to become a single solution, then I would
 imagine it would include the UAG feature set.



 Graeme



 On 27 July 2012 11:34, Steve Goodman st...@stevieg.org wrote:

 Yes it's Forefront TMG and it's basically the same.



 Steve



 From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
 Sent: 27 July 2012 10:51
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?



 I want to play around with ISA server in a lab, since I have almost zero
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 Cheers



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Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?

2012-07-27 Thread Kurt Buff
Not as such.

However, UAG only works with Win7 Enterprise or Ultimate, so most
folks have paid a price one way or the other for the client OS.

Kurt

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Adm sms...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does UAG require CALs?
 I don't believe TMG does.


 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:

 Be aware that, as of “today” the feature set between TMG and UAG is not
 identical. You need determine your support requirements BEFORE you spend
 your money.



 From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:37 AM


 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?



 If your looking to play I would look at forefront UAG as well, as I have
 heard rumours that they are going to become a single solution, then I would
 imagine it would include the UAG feature set.



 Graeme



 On 27 July 2012 11:34, Steve Goodman st...@stevieg.org wrote:

 Yes it's Forefront TMG and it's basically the same.



 Steve



 From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
 Sent: 27 July 2012 10:51
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Slightly off topic.. ISA Server is now..?



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