Re: [exim] 8192 length SSL keys

2021-04-12 Thread The Doctor via Exim-users
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 10:53:46PM +0100, Jeremy Harris via Exim-users wrote:
> On 12/04/2021 21:39, The Doctor via Exim-users wrote:
> > Does Exim support 8192 bit SSL keys?
> 
> Nothing works until it's been tried, and I've not
> personally tested 8k (or even 4k) keys in certs.
> The regression tests use 2k key for RSA
> and (it looks like) a nistp521 key for EC.
> 
> I can't comment on other EC variants, but apart
> from buffer sizes I'd expect the only limitations
> to be in the crypto library in use.
> 
> 
> I agree with Viktor, use EC.  Until we hit
> the cryptapocalypse they are much preferred.
> 
> Ed25519 works for DKIM keys, though you need
> to worry whether the MTAs you talk to also
> support them.  You can dual-sign with an RSA
> and an EC key.
> The tests use 512b (I know; deprecated...) and 1k
> keys for DKIM/RSA, and Ed25519 for DKIM/EC.

4K keys do work!

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Re: [exim] 8192 length SSL keys

2021-04-12 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users

On 12/04/2021 21:39, The Doctor via Exim-users wrote:

Does Exim support 8192 bit SSL keys?


Nothing works until it's been tried, and I've not
personally tested 8k (or even 4k) keys in certs.
The regression tests use 2k key for RSA
and (it looks like) a nistp521 key for EC.

I can't comment on other EC variants, but apart
from buffer sizes I'd expect the only limitations
to be in the crypto library in use.


I agree with Viktor, use EC.  Until we hit
the cryptapocalypse they are much preferred.

Ed25519 works for DKIM keys, though you need
to worry whether the MTAs you talk to also
support them.  You can dual-sign with an RSA
and an EC key.
The tests use 512b (I know; deprecated...) and 1k
keys for DKIM/RSA, and Ed25519 for DKIM/EC.
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Re: [exim] 8192 length SSL keys

2021-04-12 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Exim-users
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 02:39:41PM -0600, The Doctor via Exim-users wrote:

> Does Exim support 8192 bit SSL keys?

Even 4096-bit RSA keys are noticeably slow/bulky, none of the public CAs
are using anything stronger than 4096-bit RSA keys and most are using
2048.  Why on earth would you want 8192 bits?

If you actually want practical strong keys, use ECDSA P256, Ed25519
or Ed449.

> IF so why is Thunderbird choking?

Wrong question IMHO, don't use 8192 bit RSA, it is not a good idea.

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[exim] 8192 length SSL keys

2021-04-12 Thread The Doctor via Exim-users
Does Exim support 8192 bit SSL keys?

IF so why is Thunderbird choking?

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Re: [exim] "allow_insecure_tainted_data = yes" - was: tainted data issues

2021-04-12 Thread Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users
Hi Andreas,

the problem isn't caused by the new allow_insecure_tainted_data, but
these warnings trigger the issue.

We're in progress fixing it.

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