Re: [expert] Change windows manager within KDE 1.1

[Tom Berger]

On Die, 27 Apr 1999, you wrote: / Am Die, 27 Apr 1999 schrieben Sie:
> Hi all,
> 
> how do I change the desktop manager in KDE 1.1. I would like to switch to afterstep. 
>I have backed up the
> Xclients & xinitrc files. then made a new xinitrc file just to use afterstep. BUT 
>when I change back to
> KDE. the x server would not connect.
> 

That's how I do it with WindowMaker: create a file .Xclients in your
home directory with the path of the executable (for me it's
/usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker). Use chmod to make that file executable ('chmod 755
.Xclients'). startx and WindowMaker gets started :-). If you want to use
KDE again just rename .Xclients ('mv .Xclients .Xclients-wm'). startx and
KDE starts. You may even automate this process in a little shell-script.
Maybe I'll write one.

> kwm is great but its not as exciting as afterstep or gnome where u
can change the theme. it's just 2 > windoze-like.
> 
> is it possible to switch desktop manager from within kwm itself? Thanks.
> 

That's a *good* question! I asked that here before and got no answer. As
far as I can see that is possible but nowhere cleanly documented. Will
keep looking for this and tell you if I find out.


 > royce

tom

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Re: [expert] How to install my 56k modem based on PCI bus?

[Tom Berger]

On Mit, 28 Apr 1999, you wrote: / Am Mit, 28 Apr 1999 schrieben Sie:
> >%_Hi:
>I am very excited for installing my X-window successfully at last! I have install 
>it for two days.Very thanks all person.
>Now, I meet a new question: How to install my inner modem  of 56k based on PCI 
>bus.
>I have installed the modem in win98, all thing is ok. But the product havent 
>driver for linux. What driver shall I choose?
> 
> Very thanks
> 
> John l.yn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Would you *please* stop cross-posting your questions? And *please* don't
send HTML-messages.

Thanks

tom

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[expert] Less server software?

[Marco Fioretti]

Hello,

I have been listening to this list for a while to decide if and when
to switch to Mandrake, so this is a question about different features
in Mandrake vs. Red Hat.

PLEASE let's not start yet another flaming/religious war: both
distros are excellent, they just target different users if what
follows is true. Now the questions.

I just read on the Mandrake site the Distributions comparison
extract from the german journal PC Magazin. Something I didn't
expect to see is:

Instead of supplying lots of server software
(i.e. like Red Hat)
Mandrake, concentrates on the single user's computer

What does this mean? I always thought that Mandrake had
EVERYTHING is in Red Hat PLUS KDE, GIMP, SANE, etc.etc.,
or at least his is the impression I got from the WWW site.

Am I wrong?
Can MANDRAKE be (custom) installed with all the "lots of server
software"
from its own single CD, or does one have to fetch them from RH CDs
or ftp site?
In general, is there a list of what Red Hat has and Mandrake hasn't?
(out of the box, obviously)

Again, this is not about which distro is best: it is only important to
know which one is faster to install/configure as a workstation or a
server.

Ciao,

Marco

Re: [expert] Passwordproblem

[sphilp]

On Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 06:34:14AM +0200, Michael Hammann wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I tried to install glib1.2.2 & gtk+1.2.2 on my Redhat5.2 with Kernel 2.2.3. (I
> don't know why ;-)). The second was an update of 'lpr' as it was recommended on
> the Redhat-errata-site.
> 
> Now, I cannot login as 'root' anymore! To login as a normal user goes and su
> with the 'root'-password goes. Then 'startx' is starting the right KDE-Desktop
> from user 'root'. 'Telinit 5' don't go also.
> 
> What shall I do to repare my system?
> 
> Please post your answers directly to my email-address.

Login as a normal user, su to root, remove the password entry for root from
/etc/password.  Logout of all of that.

Login as root (it won't ask for a password), type 'passwd' and enter a new
password.

Sounds like the best option to me.

-- 
Steve Philp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] glibc 2.1

[sphilp]

On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 09:24:50PM -0500, Gary Joyce wrote:
> I am considering upgrading to glibc 2.1. Has anyone made the upgrade and if so
> did you compile from source or use the RH binaries, and were there any problems
> with dependencies.
> 
> I've already upped glib and gtk+ to 1.2 without a hitch (2.2.6 kernel) but am
> concerned about the mandrake distro binaries working with an upgrade of glibc.

I know there are problems with (at least) ncurses and StarOffice.  I've
heard of more conflicts, but don't have specifics.

Theoretically, glibc-2.1 should be backwards compatible with glibc-2.0, so
there shouldn't be too many problems.

I guess the answer at this point is "try it out and let us know if it
works!"  :)

Sorry... 
-- 
Steve Philp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] Change windows manager within KDE 1.1

[Arandir]

On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Royce Teo wrote:
>
> how do I change the desktop manager in KDE 1.1. I would like to switch to
> afterstep. I have backed up the Xclients & xinitrc files. then made a new
> xinitrc file just to use afterstep. BUT when I change back to KDE. the x
> server would not connect. 

There are programs out there that let you choose between window managers at
startup. They may be what you need to keep track of the init files.

> kwm is great but its not as exciting as afterstep or gnome where u can
> change the theme. it's just 2 windoze-like.

For once, just once, I wish someone would explain to me how kde/kwm is
windows-like but nothing else is. 

In any case, you do have themes in KDE. Let me repeat. You do have themes in
KDE. Direct any questions to 

> is it possible to switch desktop manager from within kwm itself? Thanks.

I'm still not sure what you mean by desktop manager. Are you referring to a
window manager? If so, you have to logout of kwm, just like you do with
every other window manager. If you mean, can you run GNOME from within kwm, I
believe you can.

--
Arandir...
___

[expert] glibc 2.1

[Gary Joyce]

I am considering upgrading to glibc 2.1. Has anyone made the upgrade and if so
did you compile from source or use the RH binaries, and were there any problems
with dependencies.

I've already upped glib and gtk+ to 1.2 without a hitch (2.2.6 kernel) but am
concerned about the mandrake distro binaries working with an upgrade of glibc.

any comments welcome,

Gary Joyce

Re: [expert] re How to install my 56k modem based on PCI bus?

[Gary Joyce]

Winmodems are called "win"modems because they require windows OS to operate.
Some of the normal hardware functions have been offloaded to the driver and the
CPU, and all the drivers are windows based.

The safest modem is an external! 

HTH 

Gary Joyce

 On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, you wrote: > Here is a site from redhat that shows a
hardware compatibilty list. Since > mandrake is based on redhat it should help
with hardware under mandrake. > 
> http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/intel/rh51-hardware-intel.html#toc14
> is your modem a winmodem?
> As far as I know winmodems won't work under linux. 
> 
> you could try this site
> http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO.html

[expert] re How to install my 56k modem based on PCI bus?

[mike montgomery]

Here is a site from redhat that shows a hardware compatibilty list. Since
mandrake is based on redhat it should help with hardware under mandrake.

http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/intel/rh51-hardware-intel.html#toc14
is your modem a winmodem?
As far as I know winmodems won't work under linux. 

you could try this site
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO.html

[expert] more sound card blues

[mike montgomery]

Well I tried changing dma=x,y to dma=x dma16=y.
The too many dma error was gone but my sound card still did not work. 
I am going to try the ALSE free sound drivers. maybey ALSE will work.
If it does I will tell all.


 

[newbie] Appraising Microsoft Conference (Long Message)

[James J. Capone]

James Love one of the runners of the conference is not the person some of 
us may think he is. If you goto his page 
 http://www.appraising-microsoft.org and click on the Link for the Next 
meeting you will see, Only 2 Linux Related people are invited to the 
meeting. I don't notice any programmers, User Groups, Resellers etc... 
These people also make the Linux roll just as much as we do. We are running 
a Boycott of this Project. I have a transcript of a phone conversation 
between Mr. Love and the People at IACT. Here are bits and pieces

-
I asked him what user groups, programmers and grass roots orgs he had 
invited to speak about OSs such as Amiga, OS/2, BSD, DOS and Linux. He 
immediately reverted to his argument that they have a long list of speakers 
and they don't have room to invite many people to cover all the OSs. He 
also asked in an insulting tone [not verbatim but close], "What have these 
people done? What remedies have these people ever proposed that would 
convince us they deserve to be included? We need people who have ideas, who 
know what they're talking about, who can speak"

{Which means, we're stupid. He's smart. All of the people he invited are 
the smartest in the land. He and they _invented_ the anti-monopoly 
movement, hmm?}

-
On the subject of Linux, he definitely tried to minimize the heavy emphasis 
on corporate reps. and certain producers of Linux. When I mentioned other 
Linux sources, he balked and went back to his old spin, that hey, he can't 
invite everybody. He even went so far as to insist that the CEOs of RedHat 
and Caldera weren't there to discuss Linux!-- just to offer their 
anti-trust remedies!

{Yeah sure, and if a tobacco company executive were invited, he wouldn't 
talk about cigarettes.}



On the subject of OS/2, he was worse than about Amiga. He clearly harbors a 
special dislike of OS/2 and the OS/2 community. He didn't elaborate with 
hard reasons, but offered plenty of insults, and his tone went right down 
to sneering and whining.

[not verbatim] "What has the OS/2 community done to prove that OS/2 is a 
remedy to Microsoft?" I answered that I wouldn't presume as one person to 
speak for the entire community of users. However, I reminded him that he's 
proposing Linux and BeOS, even a mere environment such as NewDeal, as 
"alternatives" to Windows, and therefore by his own reckoning OS/2 and 
other OSs [already named] should be included for discussion.



as you can see he doesn't really support Linux or some other OS related 
communities. Please send him email requesting a invite. Ask him why 
Linux-Mandrake people where not asked to come. If this is a conference on 
Remedies to a Antitrust suit, Don't you think Alternative OS's are also 
answers to the problem.


This is his contact Information. Use it wisely or however you see fit.

James Love, Director, Consumer Project on Technology
I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED], by telephone 202.387.8030,
by fax at 202.234.5176. CPT web page is http://www.cptech.org



James J. Capone
Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux
Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com

"The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The 
Apartment Next To Yours!"

Re: [expert] Lost mail

[Hidong Kim]

Mauro Tortonesi wrote:
> 
> Ehm, I've lost the e-mail about the initscripts update. Where can I find
> the updated RPMS? Thank you.
> 
> --
> Aequam memento rebus in arduis servare mentem...
> 
> Mauro Tortonesi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://ing49.unife.it/keyser
> Ferrara Linux User Grouphttp://flug.unife.it


Hi, Mauro,

Try
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/kernel-2.2/kernel2.2-upgrade-3.html#ss3.1
for the latest packages to upgrade to kernel 2.2.  Good luck,



Hidong

Re: [expert] How to install my 56k modem based on PCI bus?

[Hidong Kim]

> John l.yn wrote:
> 
> Hi:
>I am very excited for installing my X-window successfully at last!
> I have install it for two days.Very thanks all person.
>Now, I meet a new question: How to install my inner modem  of 56k
> based on PCI bus.
>I have installed the modem in win98, all thing is ok. But the
> product havent driver for linux. What driver shall I choose?
> 
> Very thanks
> 
> John l.yn


Hi, John,

Is this pci modem a "winmodem"?  If it is, I'm not sure you'll get it to
work under Linux.  The safest bet for an internal modem for Linux is an
isa modem with user settable jumpers for com and irq.  Good luck,



Hidong

[newbie] Very need your help!About Install

[John l.yn]

Hi :
 We are newer to 
Linux Mandrake. We meet some trouble during install X-Windows of Linux 
Mandrake.
 
 The first 
one:
 We cannt find the monitor driver of MAG XJ500T for Linux 
Mandrake. 
 The 
second one:
 We cannt find 
the display card driver using Intel i740 AGP chips for Linux 
Mandrake.
 
 Where can we get it? How to install it? Please give more 
details.
 We are very anxious. We 
are waiting for your respondence! Very thanks!
 
 
Sincerely!
 
John l.yn 

Re: [expert] Install from CD-ISO

[David Rodgers]

yes it would because it alters the original image  just burn the
original image and make a new cd with the extras

Re: [expert] Kernel 2.2 problems!!!

[YH]

> 1. I downloaded all the files from mandrake site to upgrade to kernel 2.2 (I?m 
> using Mandrake 5.3 Festen).
> I followed the procedures, but when I reboot the machine I get the following 
> error message:
> 
> Partition Check:
> hda: hda1 hda2
> kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root FS on 03:07
> 
> My linux system is installed under hda7 (logical partition), ...it seems like 
> it can?t recognize the hda7 partition?, any idea on how to resolve
> this problem ?.

I can't help you much because I'm a Linux newbie myself.

But what I did was to download the source from http://www.kernel.org
and recompiled it myself.

http://www.linuxplanet.com has a short 3-page tutorial on exactly
how to compile a new kernel. I followed it and everything seems to
run fine so far.

--
Yusry Harfuddin [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Linux rulez, Windoze sucks.

Re: [expert] Linux cannt detect the ram of my VGA card.

[Martin Alfke]

Try to take a look at the xf86 documentation!
I had the same problems during our Installation-Party last weekend with
the same AGP-VGA-Card (SiS 6326/8M).
Solution:
1. do not use XF86Setup! Use xf86config
2. comment out all resolutions that are not supported by XF86 and the
SiS-Chipset (/usr/doc/xf86/README.SiS)

I got a running system with 24-bit colour-depth only.

On Die, 27 Apr 1999, Vladimir V. Popov wrote:
> When I had happiness to buy AGP SVGA-Intel740/8M, I dont knew that it did not
> supports by M/B VIA VP3 (5VP3, 5MVP3) (). Then,
> I bought AGP SiS-6326/4M, which suports by M/B & Linux-Mandrake 5.3. But got
> another surprise w/XF86: it works, I move mouse, see icones and buttons on
> a black screen, but that is all... Menu works but all black-on-black -
> - it is need to suspect. When some windows is opening/closing there are much
> bright contours drawing.

Martin

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[expert] OT: Trying to get access to scsi

[bob115]

I know this is off topic but since I am using Mandrake  distro I
thought it was worth a try. I upgraded the kernel using the2.2.5 rpm's
from Mandrake.  How do I get it to recognize my scsi card?  I know that
this kernel build has support for it as it was an option when I
unsuccessfully tried to compile a kernel myself. At the moment it just
has a scanner on it but I also use a jaz drive.  In advance thanks.
--
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AIM: RobertLS

[expert] X login

[Mauro Tortonesi]

I'd like to set up my machine to login the user in graphic mode.
No problem with that. The matter is: I want to establish a time limit
after which the user is automatically logged out (and he cannot login for
the rest of the day). How do I gew this?  

--
Aequam memento rebus in arduis servare mentem...

Mauro Tortonesi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ferrara Linux User Grouphttp://flug.unife.it

[expert] Lost mail

[Mauro Tortonesi]

Ehm, I've lost the e-mail about the initscripts update. Where can I find
the updated RPMS? Thank you.

--
Aequam memento rebus in arduis servare mentem...

Mauro Tortonesi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://ing49.unife.it/keyser
Ferrara Linux User Grouphttp://flug.unife.it