Re: OLD [expert] Smoking Grass

2002-04-23 Thread David



J. Craig Woods said onto me:  

snip
Well the truth be known, you probably did smoke to much grass. But as
long as you did not hang out with Owsley, you should be ok...
snip

Just going through my old mail... Who's Owsley? 


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[expert] nautilus only copies zero byte files from cdrom

2002-04-23 Thread William Kenworthy

When mounting a cdrom nautilus pops up and you can copy/dragdrop etc. 
However, from a cdrom you only ever get a 0 byte file - I presume this
is because the file on the cdrom is read only and the copy is abit too
pedantic!  However, copying from  r/w file on the HD works as expected. 

Is there a way out of this - or can nautilus be stopped from from coming
up whenever anything is mounted? 

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Re: [expert] Re: Any monospaced sans serif fonts?

2002-04-23 Thread Mark Williamson


 
 I guess you need Andale Mono (TrueType) font - it's available from Win98 of 
 from MS Typography site.


What's the Web address of the MS Typography site.

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Re: [expert] Re: Any monospaced sans serif fonts?

2002-04-23 Thread Nick Thompson

www.microsoft.com/typography

Mark Williamson wrote:

I guess you need Andale Mono (TrueType) font - it's available from Win98 of 
from MS Typography site.




What's the Web address of the MS Typography site.

  






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Re: [expert] Re: Any monospaced sans serif fonts?

2002-04-23 Thread Alastair Scott

On Tuesday 23 Apr 2002 9:22 am, Mark Williamson wrote:

  I guess you need Andale Mono (TrueType) font - it's available from
  Win98 of from MS Typography site.

 What's the Web address of the MS Typography site.

http://www.eu.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/default.htm

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Re: [expert] Whipping a dead horse (was Reading Email headers)

2002-04-23 Thread J. Craig Woods

Damian G wrote:
 On 23 Apr 2002 01:39:07 -0400
 
 i guess the all-caps sentences make me a little defensive... i guess i didn't 
 really grasp the meaning of his answer. if this is the case, i'm sorry.
 
 Damian

No apologies needed, Damian. If face to face communications is fraught 
with much misunderstanding, one might consider what we do here, 
attempting to communicate in *non* real time, akin to explicating 
quantum theory. And that aint easy. LX and Pierre were right about the 
point I was making, which was agreeing with you. Sometimes, as we all 
know, when a thread goes on for a bit of time on any list, it can get to 
a place of distortion. We were well into this tread when others were 
joining in with previously discussed points. That was why I was trying 
to bring it back to the main point. Silly me.

However, I did get a kick out of civileme's response. I would say to 
anyone that thought about spamming you, civileme, that maybe they ought 
to pick on someone else

Dr John

aka
J.C. Woods




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Re: [expert] SOLVED adding new users causes X to restart on login - mdk 8.2

2002-04-23 Thread Earle Jason

Just a quick update: after looking at .xsession-errors, it turned out that one of my 
shared 
libraries (libglu.so.1.2) wasn't readable to the new user. I changed the owner of that 
library 
to xgrp and allowed every member of the group reading and executing priviledge, and 
now everything's all hunky-doree.

Thanks for telling me where to look!

-Jason

4/22/2002 10:43:40 AM, Nick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When a login fails, then its usually worth a look in 
/home/user/.xsession-errors. This is where all the console output ends 
up. Otherwise you could do a failsafe login (starts X and a terminal 
only) and run startkde (I assume your using KDE?). All the output from 
KDE will then appear in the terminal. Hopefully, one of these will show 
you a meaningful error message...

Nick.
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[expert] xine dvd player

2002-04-23 Thread Dodd, David J

I am having a hard time trying to play a dvd on mandrake 8.2.  I bring
up xine and pull up the files from the dvd player and it will play a
small clip but not the whole movie.  How do I get the whole movie to
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[expert] kwintv -- no mute or volume control functions

2002-04-23 Thread Hoyt

I'm using Mandrake 8.2,  Kwintv with an ATI TV Wonder VE.

Now that I have the sound working  by plugging in the ATI card to the sound 
card, I can't get it to function correctly.

The mute and sound level functions of Kwintv do not work and it is necessary 
to mute the line-in (where the ATI card is connected) and adjust the volume 
using aumix. The mute button in Kwintv has a red X on it.

I have found nothing in a Google search nor in the Kwintv docs that addresses 
this. Any advice?

Thanks.
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RE: [expert] xine dvd player

2002-04-23 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN

I personally like ogle. I find it plays the 
best on my piii... Xine is always choppy
And ogle supports dvd menus


Brian D. Klar - CVE
OTS
WPAFB

-Original Message-
From: Dodd, David J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] xine dvd player


I am having a hard time trying to play a dvd on mandrake 8.2.  I bring
up xine and pull up the files from the dvd player and it will play a
small clip but not the whole movie.  How do I get the whole movie to
play? 




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[expert] cant stay connected

2002-04-23 Thread Gavin

Here's the problem, for some reason my work box will disconnect  from the 
gateway if I'm idle for more than 20 to 30 min. to get it to connect again, I 
have to reboot. what could be causing this pain in the butt problem? all my 
other boxes stay connected only my 8.0 box disconnects. Thanks in advance for 
all replies.

Gavin
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Re: [expert] cant stay connected

2002-04-23 Thread Pierre Fortin

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 23:56:41 +0900 Gavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's the problem, for some reason my work box will disconnect  from
 the gateway if I'm idle for more than 20 to 30 min. to get it to connect
 again, I have to reboot. what could be causing this pain in the butt
 problem? all my other boxes stay connected only my 8.0 box disconnects.
 Thanks in advance for all replies.

Think you can provide any less info...?  :

We can make assumptions; but...

1 - LAN
  - dialup/other to gateway
2 - sessions *thru* gateway
  - sessions (telnet, rsh, ssh, tftp, ...) *to* gateway
3 - log entries
  - error messages
4 - just one application
  - all services (ifconfig output?)
N - ...

Just the facts...  there's nothing worse than debugging both the problem
and someone's interpretation...

Pierre

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PS:  headers...



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[expert] OT: Sleuthing: Are you an unwitting web relay?

2002-04-23 Thread Pierre Fortin

Hi,

At the risk of starting a thread that won't die...  :^)

A few weeks ago, I noticed in my apache logs that someone was using my web
site to proxy their browsing.  This was briefly discussed here:

Mar 10, see thread:
 [expert] Fw: RE: Apache 1.3.x allows passthrough
http://www.mail-archive.com/expert%40linux-mandrake.com/thrd5.html#50886

Apr 21:
 Sidebar:  a while back, I started seeing a hacker using my web site to
 hide his/her activities.  Today, the packets continue (even if
 unproductive due to my HoneyPort); but the emerging pattern is that
 someone may be trying to boost click-through counts to affect
 advertising charges...  If anyone is seeing packets from 211.154.65.144,
 I'd be interested in getting some info from you...

If you are running a web server, please check your
/var/log/httpd/access_log for lines that look like this:
  GET http://.. HTTP/1.x

If, like me, you had/have proxying active and were successfully abused by
this scumbag, you will be on a permanent list and will not be able to stop
these probes...   Even going silent via iptables does not stop the
probing.

So far, I've tracked the machine to somewhere in Asia Pacific (China?), so
counter-offensives are likely my only option.

I've been trying to find ways to respond which might give the attacker
some grief...  if anyone has any ideas on how to croak a remote box that
is only listening to ports it opened, I'm interested...  I've tried using
the anti-{CodeRed,Nimda} responses.

It seems that the more I give it responses, the more it tries...  (again,
silence does not stop the attack)  The last attempt was to overflow its
buffers and the probes stopped for an hour...  though they've resumed.  So
far, I can flood the attacker up to his window size of 17520.

Guess it's time to hunt down the old smurf code and modify it to beacon
the idiot...

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RE: [expert] xine dvd player

2002-04-23 Thread Robert Goshko

On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 07:22, Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN wrote:
 I personally like ogle. I find it plays the 
 best on my piii... Xine is always choppy
 And ogle supports dvd menus
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dodd, David J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 I am having a hard time trying to play a dvd on mandrake 8.2.  I bring
 up xine and pull up the files from the dvd player and it will play a
 small clip but not the whole movie.  How do I get the whole movie to
 play? 

I would have to agree, I had tired xine, and it never really played a
DVD that good.  I use ogle all the time and it great, even on my PII 400
it have smooth video.

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[expert] Is APM in 8.2's kernel?

2002-04-23 Thread Gary Dunn

Is APM (advanced power management) compiled into the Linux-Mandrake 8.2
kernel? How can I tell if it is? Is there a general form for determining
such-and-such is compiled in?

Gary Dunn
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Re: OLD [expert] Smoking Grass

2002-04-23 Thread David




Fellini Days said onto me:  

   |He was the guy who first made LSD, the only problem was he kept making it
   |when it became illegal!
   |
   |- Original Message -
   |From: David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   |To: J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   |Cc: expert Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   |Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:38 AM
   |Subject: Re: OLD [expert] Smoking Grass
   |
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   | J. Craig Woods said onto me:
   |
   | snip
   | Well the truth be known, you probably did smoke to much grass. But as
   | long as you did not hang out with Owsley, you should be ok...
   | snip
   |
   | Just going through my old mail... Who's Owsley?
   |
   |
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[expert] [MAILER-DAEMON@trismegistus.net: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]

2002-04-23 Thread J. Craig Woods

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Content-Description: Undelivered Message
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:07:59 -0500
From: J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sylvestre Taburet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AW: [expert] samba and ACls in 8.2
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i

Sylvestre,

I am not the poster that originally posted that Samba came without ACL
support but my question to you still stands *UN*answered. Although you
were unable or unwilling to answer the question, I asked a very simple
question: where is this samba.spec file your refer to? While doing an
install of 8.2, I chose to have Samba installed. Now, my installed has
completed, and there is no samba.spec file. I realize that if, after my
OS installation, I decided to build and intall Samba, I would then find
a samba.spec file. BUT after doing a complete OS installation with
Samba selected, where is the samba.spec file? I contend that there is
no such file. So how would I know what --configure-with options have
been used on Samba?

The originator of this thread stated that no ACL support was compiled
into the Samba that was installed while doing the system install. I
think I hear you saying, yes, it was. Again, my question is very
simple, how would I know what samba is compiled with since no
samba.spec will exist on the system?

BTW why is this thread not directed to the expert list?

Craig Woods

On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 01:26:41PM +0200, Sylvestre Taburet wrote:
 Le Mardi 23 Avril 2002 12:47, vous avez écrit :
  Sylvestre Taburet wrote:
   Okay.
   Check the samba.spec and you'll see that the samba RPM provided with 8.2
   was compiled with that option.
 
  Ok, Sly, I give up. I installed Samba during a clean install of LMDK8.2.
  Where would I find the samba.spec file?
 
  Dr John
  The Night Tripper
 
 Here it is. We set up macros and flags for building the rpm with specific 
 options for 8.0, 8.1...
 
 I compiled it for 8.2, that is with ACLs, winbind and nss_wins enabled. The 
 only thing that isn't enabled is ldap. If someone wants it, one could always 
 rebuild the SRPM by typing rpm --rebuild samba-xxx.src.rpm --with ldap
 
 That's why I was a bit upset to read in the news that I didn't enable XFS 
 ACLs in my package. I enabled and tested it myself, and other developpers 
 also tested it, in fact, and it worked fine.
 
 Now what is exactly the issue that is bothering you?
 
 Cheers
 
 samba.spec
 ---
 
 %define ver 2.2.3a
 %define rel 10mdk
 
 #choose one of the following (by making it 1)
 %define build_cooker 0
 %define build_mdk82 1
 %define build_mdk81 0
 %define build_mdk80 0
 %define build_mdk72 0
 %define build_non_default 0
 
 # Allow commandline option overrides (borrowed from Vince's qmail srpm):
 # To use it, do rpm [-ba|--rebuild] --with 'xxx'
 # The default distro is currently mdk82, so any other commandlinue must
 # %define mdk82 0
 %{?_with_cooker: %{expand: %%define build_cooker 1}}
 %{?_with_cooker: %{expand: %%define build_mdk82 0}}
 %{?_with_mdk82: %{expand: %%define build_mdk82 1}}
 #%{?_with_mdk82: %{expand: %%define build_cooker 0}}
 %{?_with_mdk81: %{expand: %%define build_mdk81 1}}
 %{?_with_mdk81: %{expand: %%define build_mdk82 0}}
 %{?_with_mdk80: %{expand: %%define build_mdk80 1}}
 %{?_with_mdk80: %{expand: %%define build_mdk82 0}}
 %{?_with_mdk72: %{expand: %%define build_mdk72 1}}
 %{?_with_mdk72: %{expand: %%define build_mdk82 0}}
 
 # Check to see if we are building for a non-default distro. This needs o
 # be updated on occasion:
 %if !%build_mdk82
 %define build_non_default 1
 %endif
 
 # Set defaults for each version
 %if %build_cooker
 %define build_acl 1
 %define build_winbind 1
 %define build_wins 1
 %define build_ldap 1
 %endif
 
 %if 

Re: [expert] [MAILER-DAEMON@trismegistus.net: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]

2002-04-23 Thread kwan

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, J. Craig Woods wrote:
 
 I am not the poster that originally posted that Samba came without ACL
 support but my question to you still stands *UN*answered. Although you
 were unable or unwilling to answer the question, I asked a very simple
 question: where is this samba.spec file your refer to? While doing an
 install of 8.2, I chose to have Samba installed. Now, my installed has
 completed, and there is no samba.spec file. I realize that if, after my
 OS installation, I decided to build and intall Samba, I would then find
 a samba.spec file. BUT after doing a complete OS installation with
 Samba selected, where is the samba.spec file? I contend that there is
 no such file. So how would I know what --configure-with options have
 been used on Samba?

RPM spec files are found in the src.rpm package. If you do:
  rpm -ivh package_name.version.src.rpm 

then cd to /usr/src/RPM/SPECS you should see the file.




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Re: [expert] Quad processor and Mandrake

2002-04-23 Thread Jim Dewar

COOL!!
i have a dual p2 and love it.

quad would be even cooler!

just think how many mp3/ogg files you can encode simultaneously.. not 
preemptively-task switching, but simultaneously. cool.

maybe that isn't really a big deal to most people, but for some reason i get 
a real charge out of it.

or work on cracking RC5 codes.

moose.


On April 22, 2002 08:07 pm, you wrote:
 I just found out that I won a 4 processor 200mhz pentium Pro server with
 1 gig of ram in it.We had some old equipment we are phasing out at work
 and we drew straws who gets what.

 Old, but more than sufficient for my playing around. I've never looked
 into mult processing with Linux. I know it is possible. Is it possible
 with Mandrake? It is an old ALR, so dunno about other compatibility
 issues. I know it has 1 or 2 raid controllers in it. DTP or something
 like that I hear.


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RE: [expert] Quad processor and Mandrake

2002-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Twu


Yes, where I work we have Linux-Mandrake 7.1 or 7.2 running on a
(4)-processor 700 MHz Pentium III Xeon 1 MB L2 cache machine to do
parallel experiments, and it runs fine ...

Jeff

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Jim Dewar
 Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:44 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] Quad processor and Mandrake


 COOL!!
 i have a dual p2 and love it.

 quad would be even cooler!

 just think how many mp3/ogg files you can encode
 simultaneously.. not
 preemptively-task switching, but simultaneously. cool.

 maybe that isn't really a big deal to most people, but for
 some reason i get
 a real charge out of it.

 or work on cracking RC5 codes.

 moose.


 On April 22, 2002 08:07 pm, you wrote:
  I just found out that I won a 4 processor 200mhz pentium
 Pro server with
  1 gig of ram in it.We had some old equipment we are phasing
 out at work
  and we drew straws who gets what.
 
  Old, but more than sufficient for my playing around. I've
 never looked
  into mult processing with Linux. I know it is possible. Is
 it possible
  with Mandrake? It is an old ALR, so dunno about other compatibility
  issues. I know it has 1 or 2 raid controllers in it. DTP or
 something
  like that I hear.

 
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[expert] Returned Mail--very strange and Samba too

2002-04-23 Thread J. Craig Woods

I initially responded to a post by Slyvertre Taburet at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] about Samba compiled with ACL support. I was 
sending a reply to him when I discovered it was going to Sly's address 
but not being posted to the expert list. So I did a cc to the expert 
list, and got back that bounce that I just forwarded to the list. Not 
sure why mtp.mandrax.org [63.209.80.242] would reject a msg being cc'ed
to it.

Anyway, when discussing a LMDK 8.2 issue, I thought it appropriate to 
post this to the list. Here is his response, and my response to his 
response. Convoluted, yes, but his response is really a response to an 
earlier poster who had stated that Samba did not come with ACL support 
compiled into it. I was just trying to get some clarification on Sly's 
point, which was all you need to do is look at the samba.spec file. Now 
if you are confused, good, so am I grinning ear to ear

Sylvestre,

I am not the poster that originally posted that Samba came without ACL
support but my question to you still stands *UN*answered. Although you
were unable or unwilling to answer the question, I asked a very simple
question: where is this samba.spec file your refer to? While doing an
install of 8.2, I chose to have Samba installed. Now, my installed has
completed, and there is no samba.spec file. I realize that if, after my
OS installation, I decided to build and intall Samba, I would then find
a samba.spec file. BUT after doing a complete OS installation with
Samba selected, where is the samba.spec file? I contend that there is
no such file. So how would I know what --configure-with options have
been used on Samba?

The originator of this thread stated that no ACL support was compiled
into the Samba that was installed while doing the system install. I
think I hear you saying, yes, it was. Again, my question is very
simple, how would I know what samba is compiled with since no
samba.spec will exist on the system?

BTW why is this thread not directed to the expert list?

Dr John

aka
Craig Woods
UNIX SA







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Re: [expert] [MAILER-DAEMON@trismegistus.net: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]

2002-04-23 Thread J. Craig Woods

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, J. Craig Woods wrote:
 
I am not the poster that originally posted that Samba came without ACL
support but my question to you still stands *UN*answered. Although you
were unable or unwilling to answer the question, I asked a very simple
question: where is this samba.spec file your refer to? While doing an
install of 8.2, I chose to have Samba installed. Now, my installed has
completed, and there is no samba.spec file. I realize that if, after my
OS installation, I decided to build and intall Samba, I would then find
a samba.spec file. BUT after doing a complete OS installation with
Samba selected, where is the samba.spec file? I contend that there is
no such file. So how would I know what --configure-with options have
been used on Samba?
 
 
 RPM spec files are found in the src.rpm package. If you do:
   rpm -ivh package_name.version.src.rpm 
 
 then cd to /usr/src/RPM/SPECS you should see the file.
 

SHEESH,

Here we go again...

Please try reading the question?

Craig Woods







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Re: dual proc intel 840--was [expert] Quad processor and Mandrake

2002-04-23 Thread Nick Baker

On Monday 22 April 2002 11:54 pm, you wrote:
 Nick Baker wrote:

  I'm having no luck getting an instal of mdk 8.0 or 8.0 to run to
  completion on a dual processor Intel
  OR840 motherboard-based machine.
  If you think you can help I can send the details.

 Let's here more details, esp. where during the install it has problems.

 I have two Intel dual MBs running but they are older than yours, and I have
 found Intel boards to be a bit of a pain. My dual Xeon was a bitch just to
 get both processors running and at full speed. The bios and jumpers didn't
 work the way the manual said. ;-(
 I have two Intel dual MBs running but they are older than yours, and I have
 found Intel boards to be a bit of a pain. My dual Xeon was a bitch just to
 get both processors running and at full speed. The bios and jumpers didn't
 work the way the manual said. ;-(
 As a bit of a side note ... The only times I have had installs hang during
 the installation was due to bad hardware, especially RAM

 Just a thought.

Thanks for your help, Kevin.
Here's the congfiguration:
Intel OR840, dual p!!! 800, 
1 gig Intel approved ram, 
IBM (adaptec 7881U) scsi adapter, 
50 gig Seagate U2W drive, 
Sony CRX140E 8/4/32 CDRW, 
ATI Radeon 7500 AGP video, 
on-board NIC, 
on-board audio, 
external KVM sw to share video, mouse, keyboard with my IBM server.

I want to set this machine up as a graphics workstation, and attempt to wean 
myself from 14 years of Photoshop/Mac addiction and and move my work to 
GIMP/Linux. I am also trying to develop an inexpensive office network and 
machine configuration package for non-profits. (Ironically, the cheap 
hardware has been less trouble !) 

Witht the OR840,  have been through several sets of non-Intel-approved memory 
and also had originally tried to set this up with dual p!!! 933s using 
slockets, never could get that set up to even get to the bios :-(  Finally 
broke down and got all Intel approved parts, and now it configures the SCSI 
card and the Intel bios just fine.

OK. With the  approved config, I have tried to install both 8.0 and 8.2, 
but they both do the same thing. The install runs smoothly through the 
partioning (root, home, usr, var) to the package instal. Near the end of 
installing whatever packages I have chosen, the install hangs either with a 
frozen mouse/keyboard or a blank screen.

Progress!! this morning I was able to install the truely minimal option and 
can get to the command prompt.
I then tried to upgrade installing KDE, but it hung as usual in the upgrade.
When I restarted, there were a bunch of repairs requested, which I approved. 
I  was then able to boot the minimal system again.

My current thought is that this is a video/X problem, and have been rummaging 
about the ATI and Xfree sites for help, but have not found any joy there yet. 

I also suspect that the minimal system is utilizing only one of the 
processors.

Later;;;
Now that I have the minimal system running I've been trying to get additional 
pieces installed. The  installer thinks Xfree is installed, but if I try to 
startx from the console I get:

execve failed for /etc/X11/X (errno 2)
giving up .
xinit: No such file or directory. (errno 2):  Unable to connect to X server.
xinit: No such process. (errno 3): Server error.
then it dumps me back into the shell.

If I run the installer now, with no packages selected for install, it hangs 
while the preparing bootloader message is on the screen.

This is long enough for now...

TIA for info and advice,
Nick








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Re: [expert] [MAILER-DAEMON@trismegistus.net: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]

2002-04-23 Thread kwan

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, J. Craig Woods wrote:

 SHEESH,
 
 Here we go again...
 
 Please try reading the question?
 
 Craig Woods

Very difficult to -- you quoted everything. Try quoting the relevant
portions in context. I saw your message, it looked like you had a
problem, I tried to help. 






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Re: dual proc intel 840--was [expert] Quad processor and Mandrake

2002-04-23 Thread Jim Dewar

i don't suppose that you have a vanilla agp or even a pci card to swap the 
radeon out with.

as you mentioned, to me it reeks of video card driver issues.

i have been thinking of buying an 8500 but was holding off until i figured it 
would work without too many heachaches, anyways, i just recently ran across 
mention that the latest Xfree now supports those cards.

i will try to find that link or remember how i got there so that i can supply 
more details and help out.

it also seems to me that the i840 based boards were a no-show on 8.0, but i 
could be wrong about this. probably civileme would know right away.

moose.

On April 23, 2002 02:40 pm, you wrote:
 On Monday 22 April 2002 11:54 pm, you wrote:
  Nick Baker wrote:
   I'm having no luck getting an instal of mdk 8.0 or 8.0 to run to
   completion on a dual processor Intel
   OR840 motherboard-based machine.
   If you think you can help I can send the details.
 
  Let's here more details, esp. where during the install it has problems.
 
  I have two Intel dual MBs running but they are older than yours, and I
  have found Intel boards to be a bit of a pain. My dual Xeon was a bitch
  just to get both processors running and at full speed. The bios and
  jumpers didn't work the way the manual said. ;-(
  I have two Intel dual MBs running but they are older than yours, and I
  have found Intel boards to be a bit of a pain. My dual Xeon was a bitch
  just to get both processors running and at full speed. The bios and
  jumpers didn't work the way the manual said. ;-(
  As a bit of a side note ... The only times I have had installs hang
  during the installation was due to bad hardware, especially RAM
 
  Just a thought.

 Thanks for your help, Kevin.
 Here's the congfiguration:
 Intel OR840, dual p!!! 800,
 1 gig Intel approved ram,
 IBM (adaptec 7881U) scsi adapter,
 50 gig Seagate U2W drive,
 Sony CRX140E 8/4/32 CDRW,
 ATI Radeon 7500 AGP video,
 on-board NIC,
 on-board audio,
 external KVM sw to share video, mouse, keyboard with my IBM server.

 I want to set this machine up as a graphics workstation, and attempt to
 wean myself from 14 years of Photoshop/Mac addiction and and move my work
 to GIMP/Linux. I am also trying to develop an inexpensive office network
 and machine configuration package for non-profits. (Ironically, the cheap
 hardware has been less trouble !)

 Witht the OR840,  have been through several sets of non-Intel-approved
 memory and also had originally tried to set this up with dual p!!! 933s
 using slockets, never could get that set up to even get to the bios :-( 
 Finally broke down and got all Intel approved parts, and now it configures
 the SCSI card and the Intel bios just fine.

 OK. With the  approved config, I have tried to install both 8.0 and 8.2,
 but they both do the same thing. The install runs smoothly through the
 partioning (root, home, usr, var) to the package instal. Near the end of
 installing whatever packages I have chosen, the install hangs either with a
 frozen mouse/keyboard or a blank screen.

 Progress!! this morning I was able to install the truely minimal option
 and can get to the command prompt.
 I then tried to upgrade installing KDE, but it hung as usual in the
 upgrade. When I restarted, there were a bunch of repairs requested, which I
 approved. I  was then able to boot the minimal system again.

 My current thought is that this is a video/X problem, and have been
 rummaging about the ATI and Xfree sites for help, but have not found any
 joy there yet.

 I also suspect that the minimal system is utilizing only one of the
 processors.

 Later;;;
 Now that I have the minimal system running I've been trying to get
 additional pieces installed. The  installer thinks Xfree is installed, but
 if I try to startx from the console I get:

 execve failed for /etc/X11/X (errno 2)
 giving up .
 xinit: No such file or directory. (errno 2):  Unable to connect to X
 server. xinit: No such process. (errno 3): Server error.
 then it dumps me back into the shell.

 If I run the installer now, with no packages selected for install, it hangs
 while the preparing bootloader message is on the screen.

 This is long enough for now...

   TIA for info and advice,
   Nick


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Re: [expert] [MAILER-DAEMON@trismegistus.net: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]

2002-04-23 Thread Robert Boggs

How do you use spell check in Kmail. I cannot find the option in my menu. RB
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Undelivered Mail
Returned to Sender]


 On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, J. Craig Woods wrote:

  SHEESH,
 
  Here we go again...
 
  Please try reading the question?
 
  Craig Woods

 Very difficult to -- you quoted everything. Try quoting the relevant
 portions in context. I saw your message, it looked like you had a
 problem, I tried to help.











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[expert] KMail - check spelling, was Undelivered Mail

2002-04-23 Thread kwan

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Robert Boggs wrote:

 How do you use spell check in Kmail. I cannot find the option in my menu. RB


 From the online help:

To check the spelling of your message, select Edit-Spelling KMail
uses KSpell to check spelling, which is the KDE frontend to the ispell
or aspell spelling checker. Note that you may need to configure the
spellchecker using Settings-Spellchecker


The menu option is not available unless you're in the message
composition window.




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Re: [expert] [MAILER-DAEMON@trismegistus.net: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]

2002-04-23 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:12:09 -0500
J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 I am not the poster that originally posted that Samba came without ACL
 support but my question to you still stands *UN*answered. Although you
 were unable or unwilling to answer the question, I asked a very simple
 question: where is this samba.spec file your refer to? While doing an
 install of 8.2, I chose to have Samba installed. Now, my installed has
 completed, and there is no samba.spec file. I realize that if, after my
 OS installation, I decided to build and intall Samba, I would then find
 a samba.spec file. BUT after doing a complete OS installation with
 Samba selected, where is the samba.spec file? I contend that there is
 no such file. So how would I know what --configure-with options have
 been used on Samba?
 
 The originator of this thread stated that no ACL support was compiled
 into the Samba that was installed while doing the system install. I
 think I hear you saying, yes, it was. Again, my question is very
 simple, how would I know what samba is compiled with since no
 samba.spec will exist on the system?
 

You will not know.

With an rpm pkg any option passed to configure must be done at the behest of the 
person building the rpm.

After installation of an rpm your only way of knowing what options are/are not 
supported: if it works it is, if it doesn't it's not.

 
Charles
 



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Re: [expert] [MAILER-DAEMON@trismegistus.net: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]

2002-04-23 Thread Robert Boggs

On Tuesday 23 April 2002 07:29 pm, you wrote:
I just cannot get spell check to work in Kmail. I have went down to it in 
settings, and still cannot get it to work. what am I doing wrong? RB  
  On 
Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:12:09 -0500

 J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am not the poster that originally posted that Samba came without ACL
  support but my question to you still stands *UN*answered. Although you
  were unable or unwilling to answer the question, I asked a very simple
  question: where is this samba.spec file your refer to? While doing an
  install of 8.2, I chose to have Samba installed. Now, my installed has
  completed, and there is no samba.spec file. I realize that if, after my
  OS installation, I decided to build and intall Samba, I would then find
  a samba.spec file
 . BUT after doing a complete OS installation with
  Samba selected, where is the samba.spec file? I contend that there is
  no such file. So how would I know what --configure-with options have
  been used on Samba?
  The originator of this thread stated that no ACL 
 support was compiled
  into the Samba that was installed while doing the system install. I
  think I hear you saying, yes, it was. Again, my question is very
  simple, how would I know what samba is compiled with since no
  samba.spec will exist on the system?

 You will not know.

 With an rpm pkg any option passed to configure must be done at the behest
 of the person building the rpm.

 After installation of an rpm your only way of knowing what options are/are
 not supported: if it works it is, if it doesn't it's not.


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Re: [expert] And the prize goes to Charles...

2002-04-23 Thread J. Craig Woods

Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:12:09 -0500
 J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
 
I am not the poster that originally posted that Samba came without ACL
support but my question to you still stands *UN*answered. Although you
were unable or unwilling to answer the question, I asked a very simple
question: where is this samba.spec file your refer to? While doing an
install of 8.2, I chose to have Samba installed. Now, my installed has
completed, and there is no samba.spec file. I realize that if, after my
OS installation, I decided to build and intall Samba, I would then find
a samba.spec file. BUT after doing a complete OS installation with
Samba selected, where is the samba.spec file? I contend that there is
no such file. So how would I know what --configure-with options have
been used on Samba?

The originator of this thread stated that no ACL support was compiled
into the Samba that was installed while doing the system install. I
think I hear you saying, yes, it was. Again, my question is very
simple, how would I know what samba is compiled with since no
samba.spec will exist on the system?
 
  
 
 You will not know.
 
 With an rpm pkg any option passed to configure must be done at the behest of the 
person building the rpm.
 
 After installation of an rpm your only way of knowing what options are/are not 
supported: if it works it is, if it doesn't it's not.
 
  
 Charles

Congratulations are in order for Charles. He actually read the email, 
and answered a very simple question. After many times reading the man on 
rpm, I suspected this was the answer but it seems like there should be a 
way to know what options are compiled into an rpm package that is 
installed at the time of the system install.

Thanks Charles,

Craig Woods
UNIX SA







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Re: [expert] Quad processor and Mandrake

2002-04-23 Thread lorne

 Cool! thanks Jeffrey.

Jeffrey Twu wrote:

Yes, where I work we have Linux-Mandrake 7.1 or 7.2 running on a
(4)-processor 700 MHz Pentium III Xeon 1 MB L2 cache machine to do
parallel experiments, and it runs fine ...

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jim Dewar
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Quad processor and Mandrake


COOL!!
i have a dual p2 and love it.

quad would be even cooler!

just think how many mp3/ogg files you can encode
simultaneously.. not
preemptively-task switching, but simultaneously. cool.

maybe that isn't really a big deal to most people, but for
some reason i get
a real charge out of it.

or work on cracking RC5 codes.

moose.


On April 22, 2002 08:07 pm, you wrote:

I just found out that I won a 4 processor 200mhz pentium

Pro server with

1 gig of ram in it.We had some old equipment we are phasing

out at work

and we drew straws who gets what.

Old, but more than sufficient for my playing around. I've

never looked

into mult processing with Linux. I know it is possible. Is

it possible

with Mandrake? It is an old ALR, so dunno about other compatibility
issues. I know it has 1 or 2 raid controllers in it. DTP or

something

like that I hear.


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Re: [expert] OT (was Smoking Grass)

2002-04-23 Thread J. Craig Woods

David wrote:
 
 
 Fellini Days said onto me:  
 
|He was the guy who first made LSD, the only problem was he kept making it
|when it became illegal!
|
|- Original Message -
|From: David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|To: J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Cc: expert Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:38 AM
|Subject: Re: OLD [expert] Smoking Grass
|
|
|
| J. Craig Woods said onto me:
|
| snip
| Well the truth be known, you probably did smoke to much grass. But as
| long as you did not hang out with Owsley, you should be ok...
| snip
|
| Just going through my old mail... Who's Owsley?
|
|

|
 
 
 Gotcha. Thanks.  BTW, does anyone know his full name?  
 

Fellini, I am impressed. I would only guess that you must be an older 
(45 years or older) individual that was raised on the west coast of the 
USA, and most likely the coast of California, either San Francisco or 
Los Angeles (or you read a lot). This is a very old post that David has 
given new life to, and when I wrote it, I figured no would understand 
what the hell I had writen (This is a state of affairs I am largely 
acclimated to)

His name is Augustus Owsley Stanley III, and he was the son of a 
Californian Supreme Court Justice. He was a chemistry major at the 
University of California at Berkeley, and the rest is, as they say, 
history. I might add that if you are interested, I am writing a book 
that is going to chronical this time period in US History but if you are 
a bit impatient, I would suggest:

The Haight-Ashbury, A History by Charles Perry (Vintage Books)

Dr John,
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Re: [expert] And the prize goes to Charles...

2002-04-23 Thread Terry Mathews

  BUT after doing a complete OS installation with
 Samba selected, where is the samba.spec file? I contend that there is
 no such file.

Try installing the samba SRPM. It'll have the spec file in it and drop it in
your /usr/src/rpm/spec folder.

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[expert] Radeon probs w/Xfree--Was: dual proc intel 840-

2002-04-23 Thread Nick Baker

On Tuesday 23 April 2002 04:49 pm, you wrote:
 i don't suppose that you have a vanilla agp or even a pci card to swap the
 radeon out with.

   nope, wish I did--I'd be a few dollars less poor, as well

 as you mentioned, to me it reeks of video card driver issues.
snip
 it also seems to me that the i840 based boards were a no-show on 8.0, but i
 could be wrong about this. probably civileme would know right away.

 moose.
 
Thanks, Moose--
I'm not famiar with civileme but perhaps I should be.

The video does seem to be the problem, but some chat on the web seems to 
indicate that the Radeo 7500 *should* work with Xfree86 4.2.0

Here is one resource I found--but in the minimal install I was able to do the 
files he mentions are pretty empty, with nothing that looks useful in them. I 
don't think the Radeon support is in there.
-
 The ATI Radeon Mobility video card works when installing the default 
Mandrake settings but it uses a FrameBuffer Driver which does not use the 
accelerated graphics capabilities of the Card. 

You do not need to recompile the kernel to add the AGP and DRI, they come 
stock. But if you do like most of us and recompile *ASAP* remember to go into 
the Character Devices section and include the AGPGART, DRI and Radeon 
modules. 

 The default kernel boot parameters in /etc/lilo.conf comes with the vga 
option set. For whatever reason (I am still trying to figure this out) the 
vga option caused my X server to fail, reason given: No screens found. So I 
took the vga option out of lilo.conf (It does nothing other than allow the 
Mandrake warm and fuzzy loader screen to display) and it worked. 

 The only other modifications you need to make are to the 
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file and /etc/modules.conf. Add the following line to 
the modules.conf file: options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1. A working 
XF86Config-4 file can be found here!. Note: there is reference to a USB mouse 
in the Input Device Section. Take this out if you do not have a USB Mouse. 

Any tips on how to get a Radeon 7500 to play nice w/Mandrake and Xfree86?

TIA,
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Re: [expert] OT (was Smoking Grass)

2002-04-23 Thread Adam and Christina Koch

 |He was the guy who first made LSD

Wrong,

LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) was first synthesized by the Dr. Albert
Hofmann in 1938.  He worked for the Swiss pharmaceutical company Sandoz
Laboratories.

You might want to read your drug history a bit more thoroughly.

Adam




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Re: [expert] OT (was Smoking Grass)

2002-04-23 Thread David

Here we go again.  

All those who pay-by-the-byte, start saving up your pennies. here comes 
another long WAY OT thread.  

Dave 


Adam and Christina Koch said onto me:  

   | |He was the guy who first made LSD
   |
   |Wrong,
   |
   |LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) was first synthesized by the Dr. Albert
   |Hofmann in 1938.  He worked for the Swiss pharmaceutical company Sandoz
   |Laboratories.
   |
   |You might want to read your drug history a bit more thoroughly.
   |
   |Adam



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[expert] Armagetron crashes SDL. Any suggestion?

2002-04-23 Thread Leinad Jones


Hi

I've running 8.2 on my Vaio Z505S but when I try
to run Armagetron it seqfaults and SDL exits.

I've downloaded the source RPMS from SDL and
armagetron and rebuilt them but I'm looking for
suggestions on what else might be causing the crash?

-Leinad


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