Re: [expert] Just installed KDE 3.03...still broken!
On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 20:49, Damian G wrote: Snip___ you're kidding, right? since installing kde3.x when the first packages came out and I discovered, as many others did, this strange unwanted behavior of the taskbar konsole shorcut hanging up upon execution, I've *Never* had to re-do the fix of this shortcut. that being the removal of nope, the fix i do is to add the blank space that is missing.. (changing konsole-noxft to konsole -noxft) but that blank space DISSAPEARS. it just goes away, and your kicker bar starts freezing up again. and it seems i'm not the first to find this behavior. ...this reminds me of an issue with MPlayer's current CVS relating to it's GUI frontend. on some systems with different keyboard/language codesets, some settings get fscked right after the first time you run it in GUI mode in such a way that it doesn't start anymore until you re-create all config files. this is temporarily fixed by adding compile-time parameters... this blank space dissapearing from a file may be a similar problem. I found one permenant solution. right click the icon on the panel. Remove it ... Replace it with an icon for multi-gnome-terminal ... works like a charm *grin*... sorry needed to interject a little levity here. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Compiling KDE 3.0.3 - ERRORS during KDEBASE ./configure
What about regular apps? After reading this thread a bit I decided to download the gcc3.2 src rpm so I can build and install it. After what you say I will certainly not use it to build my kernels but what about other apps? On Wednesday 28 August 2002 15:23, Todd Lyons wrote: James Sparenberg wrote on Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 10:15:52AM -0700 : My understanding from the discussions I've seen on the net is that the developers who do gcc listened and did include backwards compat for programs previously compiled under gcc 2.2 or greater. So far my results on a box running cooker have proven this to be true. gcc-2.96 compiled binaries do not in fact have binary compatibility with gcc-3.2 compiled programs. The biggest example of this at the present is the fact that some gcc-2.96 compiled binary only proprietary modules are experiencing problems being loaded in a gcc-3.2 compiled kernel. This is not just Mandrake experiencing this, this info is from a RedHat mailing list from their kernel developers. Stay tuned, things will get better soon. Blue skies... Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Just installed KDE 3.03...still broken!
On Wednesday 28 August 2002 21:27, Mark Weaver wrote: Praedor Tempus wrote: What is up with this? I installed KDE 3.0.3 (stable) thinking that surely by now the KDE people would have fixed the konsole-noxft problem. Nope. Still there. You try to start konsole from the panel and the panel freezes and become useless until you close konsole at which point you get an error message about not being able to start konsole-noxft. [...] I don't mean to sound condecending or insensitive, but since it's just a shortcut and not a system critical component, why not just do what ya gotta do to it and enjoy the rest of KDE? thats what I've been doing. and I haven't looked back. If that is the only thing folks are finding wrong with KDE lately then where's the problem? I suppose the problem is simply that it should be a simple fix (eliminate the noxft nonsense as the default) but it isn't fixed even after 3 full iterations of kde3.0 stable. What is a new user going to think, or some business type considering switching to linux desktop systems when they come across silly things like this? Something so basic and simple should be fixed immediately. It isn't like recoding an app or creating a new one from scratch, it is simply fixing something that has been broken for good long time and shouldn't be. How about if the kmenu items in Office were all to cause kicker crashes whenever accessed? Should one just be happy and live with it because you could simply fire up a terminal and start all the apps from the CLI? At what point does a basic function and expectation on usability and polish become intolerable? I use the terminal a lot and I start it from kicker. I do not do desktop icons and I certainly don't want to keep using the kmenu. This isn't some broken API or glibc bug, this is a very simple default setting screwup that many apparently cannot get to stay fixed. It isn't a suprize either as it has been around since the beginning of the 3.x series. All I'm saying is fix it already! Quit adding apps and bloat and fix the bugs. THAT will win new users and keep them. Little bugs never fixed put an impression out that the whole set really isn't ready for the real world. Polish does matter. That mosquito humming about my ear is mainly just a minor annoyance too but it is enough of a distraction and annoyance that I will swat it immediately. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Just installed KDE 3.03...still broken!
Maybe similar to the issue on customizing Menus with kappfinder. After rebooting they disappear. /stefano On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 05:49, Damian G wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:32:37 -0400 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damian G wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:07:28 -0500 Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is up with this? I installed KDE 3.0.3 (stable) thinking that surely by now the KDE people would have fixed the konsole-noxft problem. Nope. Still there. You try to start konsole from the panel and the panel freezes and become useless until you close konsole at which point you get an error message about not being able to start konsole-noxft. This has been a ridiculous problem since kde 3 beta. Does anyone have a _permanent_ fix for this? In the past, before I dumped kde 3.0.1 and went back to 2.2.2, I was able to fix this problem for a session but next time I logged in it would re-appear, rendering my changes temporary. I am terribly annoyed so forgive my tone but...C'MON! Fix it already. DUMP konsole-noxft forever! praedor I also found that the 'fix' doesn't even last ONE sessions, and i've seen it break more than once per session (i.e. once every hour, or right after a visit to the control center... ) wanna know how i fixed it? simple, i did the usual fix, and right after that, i removed my write permission for that file. worked ever since ( 30 hs and counting ;oP ) Damian you're kidding, right? since installing kde3.x when the first packages came out and I discovered, as many others did, this strange unwanted behavior of the taskbar konsole shorcut hanging up upon execution, I've *Never* had to re-do the fix of this shortcut. that being the removal of nope, the fix i do is to add the blank space that is missing.. (changing konsole-noxft to konsole -noxft) but that blank space DISSAPEARS. it just goes away, and your kicker bar starts freezing up again. and it seems i'm not the first to find this behavior. ...this reminds me of an issue with MPlayer's current CVS relating to it's GUI frontend. on some systems with different keyboard/language codesets, some settings get fscked right after the first time you run it in GUI mode in such a way that it doesn't start anymore until you re-create all config files. this is temporarily fixed by adding compile-time parameters... this blank space dissapearing from a file may be a similar problem. Damian Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Just installed KDE 3.03...still broken!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 28. August 2002 22:07 schrieb Praedor Tempus: What is up with this? I installed KDE 3.0.3 (stable) thinking that surely by now the KDE people would have fixed the konsole-noxft problem. Nope. Still there. You try to start konsole from the panel and the panel freezes and become useless until you close konsole at which point you get an error message about not being able to start konsole-noxft. This has been a ridiculous problem since kde 3 beta. Does anyone have a _permanent_ fix for this? In the past, before I dumped kde 3.0.1 and went back to 2.2.2, I was able to fix this problem for a session but next time I logged in it would re-appear, rendering my changes temporary. I am terribly annoyed so forgive my tone but...C'MON! Fix it already. DUMP konsole-noxft forever! Hi there, this is not a KDE issue. I installed some recent KDE versions and had no problems with the konsole started via kicker. Simply don't use konsole-noxft (its a wraper script and calls konsole --noxft and comes with kde from mandrake). konsole was broken in kde2 while using antialiasing. The problem is solved with kde3. praedor Martin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9bhkFBG198cnayKQRAhBLAJwIDr166+AOCH0ggHtv4k/h80R4tACfbXCk wVnUO2fY+k+U7Je9igZb1AA= =56a8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Just installed KDE 3.03...still broken!
On Thursday 29 August 2002 07:52, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Am Mittwoch, 28. August 2002 22:07 schrieb Praedor Tempus: What is up with this? I installed KDE 3.0.3 (stable) thinking that surely by now the KDE people would have fixed the konsole-noxft problem. Nope. Still there. You try to start konsole from the panel and the panel freezes and become useless until you close konsole at which point you get an error message about not being able to start konsole-noxft. [...] this is not a KDE issue. I installed some recent KDE versions and had no problems with the konsole started via kicker. Simply don't use konsole-noxft (its a wraper script and calls konsole --noxft and comes with kde from mandrake). konsole was broken in kde2 while using antialiasing. The problem is solved with kde3. Would that it were so easy. I have tried to eliminate konsole-noxft and this ends up breaking konsole vis a vis kicker. I have gone into kmenuedit and changed the konsole entry to be JUST konsole %i %m instead of the bull-feces konsole-noxft I deleted the kicker konsole and re-added it. It should use the konsole command instead of konsole-noxft. It works for NOW. Log off and log on again and pop! Back to konsole-noxft and broken. Unfortunately, if you use anything other than ext2 and ext3(?) you cannot set file attributes to immutable it seems. I use XFS right now but have used ReiserFS and both don't let me set immutable flags on files, otherwise I would set the system configs to immutable so that konsole-noxft can never rear its broken head again. I have even tried deleting konsole-noxft and creating a symlink to konsole - doesn't work. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Laptop install w/out CDROM drive, but with PCMCIA network!
Hi All, I have just aquired an IBM Thinkpad 560 with 40 Meg ram. There is no CDROM Drive and I do not have an external one to hand. My MDK disks are imaged and mounted as loop devices and exported via NFS. Looking at the docs, I can do an network install using the network.img on the CD's, but will I be able to access the pcmcia nic, OR, do I use the pcmcia.img, will that give the option to install over the network. It seems a bit catch22. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Also, what version of MDK would suit this machine. P133 2Gig HD 40Meg Ram. I was thinking MDK 8, and use a smaller window manager. Thanks, David mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake 8.2 and trying to kill init, kernel panic during installation
Hi, I recently downloaded Mandrake 8.2. Bummer during installation it said: . lots of debug crap about IDE and then: trying to kill init, kernel panic. Looks like it doesn't like my IDE drivers or somthing. When I boot from floppy with a 2.2 kernel it works ok. Anyone have any clue how to "cleanly" install 8.2 with a 2.4 kernel? I am sure there must be some kind of woraround or kernel option at the bootloader to make it work. Any ideas?? Marc
Re: [expert] test message - please don't read...
On 29 Aug 02 2:20 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: I told you not to read this! now certain precious parts of your anatomy are going to fall off. Thank you for that - i had not recieved any crap yet today, - now i have :) -- RJP - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sedric.co.uk. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with disk space and supermount
Praedor, My Boss had a similar problem on 7.2 box he uses in the office. Turned out that the disks had originally bee formated for a Mac not DOS. We removed all data (Linux was kind enough to read the data) and fdisked them so that the file system is not Mac reformated them DOS then ext2 (double wipe) and all of the space came back. Seems to be a bug in emulation of MAC files, it removes the fie from viewing but it's still there taking up space. James On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 06:29, Praedor Tempus wrote: I keep running into this problem. I have a 100 MB zip disk that was almost full. I removed the files from it and then attempted to copy new files onto it. I immediately get a string of no space left on device messages. Of course there is space, I deleted everything on it and the files I am trying to copy to it total less than 100 MB. I removed the zip disk and reinserted it and did df. It STILL shows it as something like 99% full when in fact there is nothing on it. There are no hidden files on it either. It seems that supermount gets it into its head that a disk has X much space on it and nothing short of a logout and login again will change its mind on the matter. Has anyone else come across this? What is the trick, if any, to getting supermount to REALLY update itself (or df) to reality instead of relying on some cache - which is what I am assuming it is doing since the disk is empty but df indicates no change whatsoever in the disk. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9b4 bug: storing settings (kde)
Hallo! I've set opera as default browser using kcontrol, but this setting dissapears after reboot... -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain AOL quini2k, ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.0 b_3_ thoughts
Ok, I know it is way past time to be able to help, but I just got around to burning the CDs. I did not have a good install with the dual CPU because of the unrecognized nvida geforce4 (ti4600) and was not able to select framebuffer in XFdrake. with the soyo-celery 366, 512 meg ram and the 64meg ATI 7500 video, I had to install with a linux = 256M NOAPIC option, but was able to use a 3d accel xfree4. and was able to spec the correct ram on reboot. I haven't had time to play much more than that. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM 8.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 3
go to www.nvidia.com download the nvidia for linux drivers for mandrake 8.2 Follow the clear instructions... ...job done ;-) si - Original Message - From: Alan Carbutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:59:23 -0600 To: expert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] LM 8.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 3 On initial install on LM 8.2 on my home box the XFree86 install portion offers me the option with 3D acceleration only with version 3.3.6. Does anyone know if there is support for 3D in 4.2.0 for NVIDIA? If so, what do I need to do to update? TIA, -- Alan Carbutt Applications Programmer Adams State College 719-587-7741 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to htIp://www.mandrakestore.com -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Beta 4: first impressions
Count me as another who liked the way it was previously, where you could tab between installed and installable, whereas now you have to go back and forth between aps instead of tabs. Definitely less convenient for me. Amen. Put it back the way it was. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Virus wall?
Does anyone know of any way to make a linux box a virus wall? In a perfect world it would accpt the email scan in, then forward it to the mail server. Anything like this out there for Linux? Thanks Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Virus wall?
On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 21:59, Belkie, Dan wrote: Does anyone know of any way to make a linux box a virus wall? In a perfect world it would accpt the email scan in, then forward it to the mail server. Anything like this out there for Linux? Thanks Dan The products Name is MailScanner... and it does just that. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Microsoft Project Equivalent
mrproject, already on rpm package of your mandrake box On Thursday 25 July 2002 01:05 pm, you wrote: Go to http://www.linuxapps.com and search for project, planning and such. Brian Schroeder wrote: Does anyone know if there is anything like Microsoft Project for Linux? Brian. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
