Re: [expert] Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
> Eric from what I've seen and also from Hans' own mouth with the > current version of Rieserfs it's the preferred method. > In fact I'm so used to reiserfs being mounted > notail,noatime Allrighty. We'll see how it does tomorrow when i reboot. I'm too sleepy right now... eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cd writer fails...
On Sunday 16 November 2003 08:40 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: > > Looks to me like dummy mode is turned on, so no actual write should > > occur. Turn off dummy mode, and try again. > > But the operation should work in dummy mode, shouldn't it? Anyway, I tried > it in real mode, and the same thing happens. The "Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal > Request" occurs at the very beginning, just as the burn is supposed to > start. Here, if I do a dummy run, I -always- get errors. But an actual burn works great - no problems. -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /dev/dsp always in use
On Sunday 16 November 2003 05:34 pm, elPunishar wrote: > high all! > > i've got a problem on mandrake 9.1 with my nforce onboard soundcard. > > /dev/dsp seems to be alway in use, even when theres no other program > running that has anything to do with sound. First off, do (as root) a: lsof /dev/dsp and it will show you what (if anything) has it tied up. If something has it, you can kill it using the given pid number. If nothing is hoarding it, then you might want to go into the KDE control center and reduce the amount of time that artsd (the usual suspect!) is using. HTHs! -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /dev/dsp always in use
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 1:09 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Sunday 16 November 2003 05:34 pm, elPunishar wrote: > > high all! > > > > i've got a problem on mandrake 9.1 with my nforce onboard > > soundcard. > > > > /dev/dsp seems to be alway in use, even when theres no other > > program running that has anything to do with sound. > > First off, do (as root) a: > > lsof /dev/dsp > > and it will show you what (if anything) has it tied up. If > something has it, you can kill it using the given pid number. If > nothing is hoarding it, then you might want to go into the KDE > control center and reduce the amount of time that artsd (the usual > suspect!) is using. > > HTHs! Under 9.1 I've had a few niggles with sound. The first improvement was when I followed the advice to find sound in kde's control center, and shorten the release time to 1. That was a big improvement. For some apps you may need to run kickarts, which temporarily switches off artsd. It installs a tray icon so you can switch arts in and out at will. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] shorewall
I'm Sorry, I should have went in to more detail yes I agree I think it is drakfw's configuration is broken. -Original Message- From: Jack Coates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:25 AM To: Mandrake Expert List Subject: RE: [expert] shorewall I have three production Shorewall installs, two of which are on 9.2. If it was broken, I wouldn't have been online for the last month :-) I'll buy that Webmin's configuration of Shorewall is broken, or that drakfw's configuration is broken, but 9.2's Shorewall is just fine. On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 13:45, Lawson, Jim wrote: > Thomas I will Monday. I installed iptables and it works. 9.2 shore wall is > broken. I did the same think I did at home for 9.0 in control center and it > works. Just on 9.2 it's broken. > > -Original Message- > From: Thomas Backlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] shorewall > > > From: "Lawson, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Did this below still nothing everything stops... Can you help more Please. > > > > the three last lines of /etc/shorewall/routestopped should be: > --- cut --- > #INTERFACE HOST(S) > eth0 > #LAST LINE... > --- cut --- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] shorewall]# service shorewall check > > Loading /usr/share/shorewall/functions... > > Processing /etc/shorewall/params ... > > Processing /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf... > > > > Notice: The 'check' command is unsupported and problem > > reports complaining about errors that it didn't catch > > will not be accepted > > > > Shorewall has detected the following iptables/netfilter capabilities: > >NAT: Available > >Packet Mangling: Available > >Multi-port Match: Available > >Connection Tracking Match: Available > > Verifying Configuration... > > Loading Modules... > > Determining Zones... > >Zones: net loc > > Validating interfaces file... > >Warning: Invalid option (routestopped) in record "net eth0 detect > > routestopped" > > remove the 'routestopped' from /etc/shorewall/interfaces > > so the four last lines in that file should be: > --- cut --- > #ZONEINTERFACE BROADCAST OPTIONS > loceth0 detect > neteth1 detect > #LAST LINE ... > --- cut --- > > > btw, as I forgot to ask before, what internet connection do you have? > is it a dsl? and does it get it's ip through dhcp or is it static? > > if you have dsl that uses PPPoE or PPPoA, > you need to change /etc/shorewall/interfaces to: > --- cut --- > #ZONEINTERFACE BROADCAST OPTIONS > loceth0 detect > netppp0 detect > #LAST LINE ... > --- cut --- > > and if it's also using dhcp, you need it like this: > --- cut --- > #ZONEINTERFACE BROADCAST OPTIONS > loceth0 detect > netppp0detect dhcp > #LAST LINE ... > --- cut --- > > > and of course restart shorewall after you have made the changes > -- > Regards > > Thomas > > PS. > sorry for the delays in answering, I had to leave my computer for a while... > > > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "There was a shopping mall, now it's all covered with flowers, if this is Paradise I wish I had a lawnmower." -- (Nothing But) Flowers from Sand in The Vaseline by The Talking Heads Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Exporting/transfering kmail filters?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can any one tell me what file would contain kmail filters? I would like to copy all my laptop settings for kmail over to my desktop and avoid manually entering all filters again. praedor - -- "Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way." - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uNIjaKr9sJYeTxgRAtLoAJ0bXSRSK3WVJe06K8C1yHjRcB5iWwCgnyJt kgj2f4eKGfhIz3AEUMJOtQc= =llEu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Exporting/transfering kmail filters?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Can any one tell me what file would contain kmail filters? I would like to > copy all my laptop settings for kmail over to my desktop and avoid manually > entering all filters again. > > praedor .kde/share/config/kmailrc - -- Mark Watts Senior Systems Engineer QinetiQ TIM St Andrews Road, Malvern GPG Public Key ID: 455420ED -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uNWrBn4EFUVUIO0RAg21AKCScIM9+WtvUwkR4I/I57VrDGTuOACgzO6T LxUdZZ7X/CXHu33LdSXBQgM= =lmP6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LG Drive and VMWare
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 09:20, Kwan Lowe wrote: > > > On Saturday 15 Nov 2003 2:57 pm, Kwan Lowe wrote: > > >> Any idea if the LG Firmware bug will bite if the Mandrake 9.2 > > >> install is in a virtual VMware machine? > > > > > > Sorry for the delay in answering - I've been away. > > > > > > I don't know the answer, but I wouldn't take the risk. LG now have a > > > firmware update available on their site. Install that first and you > > > should be OK. HTH > > Given that VMWare allows direct hardware access I would go with Anne 216 > days is a lot to lose yes, but your going to lose it anyway when you > consider that you'll have to replace the drive. Console yourself in > this one. The current record is 4.6 years and climbing. (A FreeBSD > box.) So although it's nice. We pale in comparison. (I just took down > one with 192 days uptime. Kernel upgrade.) $ uptime 2:44pm up 154 days, 2:54, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 0.05, 0.02 This is from a (Mdk 8.2) box thats already hit the 497 day Jiffie wrap limit... - -- Mark Watts Senior Systems Engineer QinetiQ TIM St Andrews Road, Malvern GPG Public Key ID: 455420ED -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uNhhBn4EFUVUIO0RAs7gAJ9qeSsLznqDhysEu3rHHP3liJaWiACgkcbJ Wi7BdM8Sp1IwueG0bq0Hho8= =7R7l -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] maps
Anyone know of a good software similar to 'streets and maps'? I tried one a while back where you had to compile the maps and it was pretty rough. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 34. What is all this I here about static charges destroying computers? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Linuxconf
List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LG Drive and VMWare
> $ uptime > 2:44pm up 154 days, 2:54, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 0.05, > 0.02 > > This is from a (Mdk 8.2) box thats already hit the 497 day Jiffie > wrap limit... Wat's that? -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:13:35 -0500 "Timothy Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > where is linuxconf in M9.2 It was moved to contrib and as such is not included on the cds. Add a contrib source and urpmi linuxconf Charles -- Chaos is King and Magic is loose in the world. - Mandrake Linux 10.0 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: > List, > Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 > Tim broken deprecated (??? I'm not certain of this, yet) contrib Flame? Why would anyone do that? Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 09:20:43 up 15:18, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 People need good lies. There are too many bad ones. -- Bokonon, "Cat's Cradle" by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uPXwG11CaRuZZSIRAv5vAKCSPadWHqFugZJ5WvuUCK3SAMJlDACgrU74 VVcpR7D6ul+tUH4qk3B/bOI= =nrys -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
> > In fact I'm so used to reiserfs being mounted > > notail,noatime > > Allrighty. We'll see how it does tomorrow when i reboot. It does seem to be quieter. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
OK, I have some money, would like to support Mandy as much as I like using it. I am intending to upgrade an 8.2 machine (not updates for it anymore, even security, right?), who basic function is running 2 webservers, (virtual) and as an anonymous ftp server. The anonyftp files are on a promisetech raid array, hooked with an adaptec 29160 scsi card. The download version of 8.2 worked 100% for me. Now that i was considering purchasing the 9.2, I can see lots of versions out therePowerpack, Pro-Suite, Discovery, Corporate Server!! It is not for home usebut yet don't need all the business/selling language associated with the versions...all I need is a Good working Mandrake 9.2, whereby I can download updates without passwords!! as I have always done with 8.2. Basically same "Freedom, but not Free ($0.00)" We all understand the process consumes money! Which one should I go for? __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
IIRC, the best for Mandrake is to buy a club membership and then use the download edition David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ricardo (Tru64 User) Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy? OK, I have some money, would like to support Mandy as much as I like using it. I am intending to upgrade an 8.2 machine (not updates for it anymore, even security, right?), who basic function is running 2 webservers, (virtual) and as an anonymous ftp server. The anonyftp files are on a promisetech raid array, hooked with an adaptec 29160 scsi card. The download version of 8.2 worked 100% for me. Now that i was considering purchasing the 9.2, I can see lots of versions out therePowerpack, Pro-Suite, Discovery, Corporate Server!! It is not for home usebut yet don't need all the business/selling language associated with the versions...all I need is a Good working Mandrake 9.2, whereby I can download updates without passwords!! as I have always done with 8.2. Basically same "Freedom, but not Free ($0.00)" We all understand the process consumes money! Which one should I go for? __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: > Which one should I go for? If you don't need anything super-special, I think download edition + contribs (that have an enterprise kernel on them) will do. I believe all Mandrake packs now come with contribs, so it won't matter which box to get. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
James Sparenberg wrote: > > Cool! I may not have had an answer but I hope I helped in finding it. > > James > Well, you and Eric kept me from giving up, which I actually did, but changed my mind :) /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
James Sparenberg wrote: > In fact I'm so used to > reiserfs being mounted notail,noatime that like a fool I didn't even ask > Bjorn about it. > Looking at it now, I think diskdrake should suggest noatime as default when writing to fstab, for resiserfs? As I recall, I did not choose anything when setting the machine up, I just picked reiser, and was satisfied with the default values. But again, it's not a big issue, to me at least, just annoying. /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
James Sparenberg wrote: > On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 15:55, Rob Blomquist wrote: >> OK, I now have 9.2 installed on my laptop via FTP. It was about a 4 hour >> experience for me. Draksound is not able to detect the ISA card, and is >> not useful for this card. >> >> Everything is working pretty well, except for the sound, it has a Crystal >> 4237B, which is found on the ISA bus, and I am able to mess with it using >> the CS423x driver in sndconfig, but I have not gotten any sound from it >> yet. >> >> Apprently it can emulate a Soundblaster, AdLib or WSS card, but using the >> SB driver crashes the machine so that the only way out is to crash the >> system. The AdLib driver crashes sndconfig. The WSS driver also locks up >> the system like the SB. >> >> Any ideas or experiences configuring the sound on this machine. My >> introduction to this machine was from the Linux Laptops website, and my >> life is not as simple. >> >> Rob > > Rob draksound AFAIK is only effective on PCI type cards. Since your is > ISA, using the old standby of sndconfig (just urpmi sndconfig) This > should bring you online no sweat. One note. You have to run it from a > regular tty not a konsole or xterm window for it to work right. I've > used this chipset in the past and it works well, sndconfig has it in > it's database and can get you up. > > James I have a 4236-card which sndconfig can get sound from, but it have not, (since mdk8.1) been able to save its settings. Every time i install a new mdk since then I've had to resort to run pnpdump + isapnp, and comment out when given multiple choise. I also put alias sound-slot-0 cs4232 options sound dmabuf=1 alias synth0 opl3 options opl3 io=0x388 options cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=0 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=10 I then commented out the sound entries in /etc/isapnp.gone (where i found the cards addresses) But since you have a 4237 card, this post may be totally wrong for you :) /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Okipage 8z
I have tried with mandrake 8.2 till 9.2 to get this to print. The printer installs and just sits there with the light blinking and jobs in queue. I checked the cups admin tools and the printer says online waiting for jobs. I have tried the printer with windows and it work perfectly. I have searched the web and done everything cups has said and still nothing. The cups page says the oki4daemon supports this printer but it does not work. James (@ @) oOO--(_)--OOo- Notice: This message, and any attached file, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this e-mail message should be construed as a legal opinion. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and delete all copies of the original Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Disapearing menu's
I don't see the update yet on my mirror. I'll let you know what happens after I do -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sparenberg Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:58 PM To: Expert List Subject: Re: [expert] Disapearing menu's On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 19:07, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 04:34, James Sparenberg wrote: > > All, > > > >Just got a Note from Laurent with MDK that he's updated(ing) kdelibs > > to fixe hopefully, the disapearing menu problem in kde. Would anyone > > who can check, test and let me know? > > > > James > > Update, > Per my question they are now in Cooker and Vincent is porting the > patch to 9.2 as we speak. I'll keep ya'll posted. > > James Just got word that the fix is in updates Would those who have been fighting this please check and let me know the results? The problem seems to have been in kde-libs. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Gnome and a dialer app?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't generally use gnome (and haven't tried it for at least 6 months or more). Last evening, in trying to locate where the problem resided with regards to my desktop and sound (or lack thereof) I started up Gnome 2.4 for the first time. Pretty nice actually. I was pleasantly suprised. What I didn't find, however, was a dialer app like kppp. I would swear that I installed all the gnome stuff when I installed 9.2 but perhaps I missed something? Is there not a dedicated gnome dialer? What's its name? praedor - -- "Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way." - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uQphaKr9sJYeTxgRAkdZAJ4n1Bc8vNLugfnt/If37abQ+Ye3swCfWfIF tCzIb0mjlNh+2bgDewBXGtA= =S0h3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
On Monday 17 November 2003 11:43 am, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: > I have always done with 8.2. Basically same "Freedom, > but not Free ($0.00)" We all understand the process > consumes money! If all you want to do is contribute financially, continue to use the download edition and buy a Club membership. Highest profit margin plus you get access to all the Commercial software included in PowerPack (except Win4Lin and VMware trials) for download. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
I think 120 a year is high. I would like to see this at 80. -Original Message- From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy? On Monday 17 November 2003 11:43 am, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: > I have always done with 8.2. Basically same "Freedom, > but not Free ($0.00)" We all understand the process > consumes money! If all you want to do is contribute financially, continue to use the download edition and buy a Club membership. Highest profit margin plus you get access to all the Commercial software included in PowerPack (except Win4Lin and VMware trials) for download. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 08:53, Björn Lundin wrote: > James Sparenberg wrote: > > > In fact I'm so used to > > reiserfs being mounted notail,noatime that like a fool I didn't even ask > > Bjorn about it. > > > > Looking at it now, I think diskdrake should suggest noatime as default when > writing to fstab, for resiserfs? As I recall, I did not choose anything > when setting the machine up, I just picked reiser, and was satisfied with > the default values. But again, it's not a big issue, to me at least, just > annoying. > > /Björn It really should have you are right. It's curious (at least to me) that it didn't default to this. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LG Drive and VMWare
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 08:18, Eric Huff wrote: > > $ uptime > > 2:44pm up 154 days, 2:54, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 0.05, > > 0.02 > > > > This is from a (Mdk 8.2) box thats already hit the 497 day Jiffie > > wrap limit... > > Wat's that? > Older Linux's have been recently discovered to count uptime to 497 days then using a new form of math 497 + 1 = 0 . I'm not sure but I think it has something to do with a Honeywell emulation layer. (For those who don't know Honeywell(IFRC) mainframes had both -0 and +0, and although -0 = +0, (0-1) != (-0+1) go figure) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Weird automount message
Thanks Jack, sorry for the lack of initial info. I'm just wondering what the messages are. Server has been running fine for over 2 years and for some reason this showed up in my log and I was just curious. I looks like it is showing up on a daily basis now (well almost a daily basis). Here is the latest round: Nov 16 00:50:59 Nemesis automount[24791]: lookup(file): lookup for * failed Nov 16 00:50:59 Nemesis automount[24792]: lookup(yp): lookup for * failed: Request arguments bad Nov 16 23:48:18 Nemesis automount[1472]: lookup(file): lookup for * failed Nov 16 23:48:19 Nemesis automount[1473]: lookup(yp): lookup for * failed: Request arguments bad Nov 17 01:54:46 Nemesis automount[1717]: lookup(file): lookup for * failed Nov 17 01:54:46 Nemesis automount[1718]: lookup(yp): lookup for * failed: Request arguments bad -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax -- - Original Message - From: "Jack Coates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mandrake Expert List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Weird automount message > are you trying to use automount or trying to figure out what these > messages are coming from? > > If the former, you've got some config file problems. If the latter, just > urpme automount. > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 06:07, David Rankin wrote: > > Mates, > > > > Has anyone else seen strange automount messages? The messages are as > > follows: > > > > Nov 13 12:28:00 Nemesis automount[15360]: lookup(file): lookup for * failed > > Nov 13 12:28:00 Nemesis automount[15361]: lookup(yp): lookup for * failed: > > Request arguments bad > > > > Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[443]: attempting to mount entry /misc/* > > Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[15675]: lookup(file): lookup for * failed > > Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[458]: attempting to mount entry /net/* > > Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[15676]: lookup(yp): lookup for * failed: > > Request arguments bad > > > > This is the first time I've seen something like this. Any thoughts would be > > appreciated. > > > > -- > > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. > > RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC > > 510 Ochiltree Street > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 > > (936) 715-9333 > > (936) 715-9339 fax > > -- > > > > > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > -- > Jack Coates > Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Okipage 8z
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 5:37 pm, Lawson, Jim wrote: > I have tried with mandrake 8.2 till 9.2 to get this to print. The > printer installs and just sits there > with the light blinking and jobs in queue. I checked the cups admin > tools and the printer says online waiting for jobs. I have tried > the printer with windows and it work perfectly. I have searched the > web and done everything cups has said and still nothing. The cups > page says the oki4daemon supports this printer but it does not > work. > James - can you lose the disclaimer for list traffic, please? Now, the printer. Has it ever worked? If you use the CUPS admin tool can you see the jobs queued? Have you tried deleting them, so that you can start afresh? Have you used small plain-text files for your tests, then gone on to more complex files once working? I say this because occasionally my printer chokes if I send it a huge complex file, and nothing on earth will get it going again unless I delete the file from the queue, re-set the printer and run the test page or a simple file. Then it's OK. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
OK, the consesus seems to be buying Mandrake Club membership, and most ppl prefer the download edition. (mandrake, maybe dont spend too much time making all those other editions...) I am just hoping Mandrake wont drop the ball on the downloaded edition, and stop offering updates, like Redhat did (kind-off)...thus only supporting the "paid for" editions. Thanks all for the quick replies.I got my three CD's downloaded in under 40mins over the weekend. Suprisingly, the "chelo" site in Switzerland is amazingly faster than all other many other mirrors I have used located in the USI being located in the US! Something speedy about transatlantic cables? --- "Lawson, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think 120 a year is high. I would like to see > this at 80. > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 12:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy? > > > On Monday 17 November 2003 11:43 am, Ricardo (Tru64 > User) wrote: > > I have always done with 8.2. Basically same > "Freedom, > > but not Free ($0.00)" We all understand the > process > > consumes money! > > If all you want to do is contribute financially, > continue to use the > download > edition and buy a Club membership. Highest profit > margin plus you get > access > to all the Commercial software included in PowerPack > (except Win4Lin and > VMware trials) for download. > -- > /g > > "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, > inside > a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] read-only floppy workaround
Just had a problem where I couldn't write to a floppy -- tried a number of things without luck, and google threads I read indicated "hardware problems" from those answering; but the OPs did not believe that since their floppy works under other OSs... I dug some more and found a workaround which simply involves rmmod/modprobe floppy... http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/query.php?bug=98 HTHSomeoneElseAvoidTheHassles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Okipage 8z
Yes I can see jobs in the queue. I wanted to state that this printer had never worked with version 8.2 to 9.2. Does this bother you? Yes delete the jobs the printer. Everything is the same on reinstall. -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Okipage 8z On Monday 17 Nov 2003 5:37 pm, Lawson, Jim wrote: > I have tried with mandrake 8.2 till 9.2 to get this to print. The > printer installs and just sits there > with the light blinking and jobs in queue. I checked the cups admin > tools and the printer says online waiting for jobs. I have tried > the printer with windows and it work perfectly. I have searched the > web and done everything cups has said and still nothing. The cups > page says the oki4daemon supports this printer but it does not > work. > James - can you lose the disclaimer for list traffic, please? Now, the printer. Has it ever worked? If you use the CUPS admin tool can you see the jobs queued? Have you tried deleting them, so that you can start afresh? Have you used small plain-text files for your tests, then gone on to more complex files once working? I say this because occasionally my printer chokes if I send it a huge complex file, and nothing on earth will get it going again unless I delete the file from the queue, re-set the printer and run the test page or a simple file. Then it's OK. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] read-only floppy workaround
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 7:00 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > Just had a problem where I couldn't write to a floppy -- tried a > number of things without luck, and google threads I read indicated > "hardware problems" from those answering; but the OPs did not > believe that since their floppy works under other OSs... I dug > some more and found a workaround which simply involves > rmmod/modprobe floppy... > > http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/query.php?bug=98 > > HTHSomeoneElseAvoidTheHassles You know what I'm going to say, don't you Pierre? It should be on the TWiki under HardwareIssues. Pretty please? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Okipage 8z
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 7:07 pm, Lawson, Jim wrote: > Yes I can see jobs in the queue. > > I wanted to state that this printer had never worked with version > 8.2 to 9.2. Does this bother you? > Yes delete the jobs the printer. Everything is the same on > reinstall. I'm out of my depth, Jim. Just hoped that asking questions would prompt your own thinking. It sounds to me as though Mandrake thinks the printer is OK. So - where is the spool? Is it where you would expect? I would think so. What could make the printer unable to get the file from the spool? I did have a problem like this with Samba printing, and I know it was related to the spool file, but I just can't remember what the issue was. Perhaps someone else could chime in? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] WTF?? $PATH question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ echo $PATH /usr/local/bin/:/home/jack/bin/:/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/:/sbin/:/usr/sbin/:/usr/local/sbin/:/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01//bin that looks okay... but . is effectively in my path!! I discovered this by doing a tab completion line that matched a script in my ~. This is with msec level 3 Maybe related to bash programmable completion? Anyone else seen this behavior? -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "I left Angola, 1964, go walkin down my street, knock upon my baby's door, my baby come out, she ask me who I am, I say baby, don't you know your man..." -- Grown So Ugly from Safe As Milk by Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:31:26 -0800 Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ echo $PATH > /usr/local/bin/:/home/jack/bin/:/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/:/sbi > n/:/usr/sbin/:/usr/local/sbin/:/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/loca > l/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01//bin > > that looks okay... but . is effectively in my path!! I discovered > this by doing a tab completion line that matched a script in my ~. > This is with msec level 3 > > Maybe related to bash programmable completion? Anyone else seen > this behavior? Why are there double /'s in the path? Not that that has anything to do with your problem... -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LG Drive and VMWare
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Watts wrote: > $ uptime > 2:44pm up 154 days, 2:54, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 0.05, 0.02 > > This is from a (Mdk 8.2) box thats already hit the 497 day Jiffie wrap > limit... > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:02pm-kevin>> uptime 1:02pm up 331 days, 18:01, 7 users, load average: 0.28, 0.29, 0.26 A Mdk 7.0 box, and it has done the jiffy-wrap also (829 days total) - -- KevinO AMAZING BUT TRUE ... If all the salmon caught in Canada in one year were laid end to end across the Sahara Desert, the smell would be absolutely awful. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/uSngWOfRC7Rnmv8RAuWMAJ92Zh65K2TAZz5Xg8wzVby/1ddyUwCfbDn7 pLa8S0c3A1QPQP/lN0seO48= =EM7q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Weird automount message
so, it sounds like you don't intend to use automount... you've got automount daemon installed, probably from urpmi'ing something else that brought it in as a dependency. Since the config file is the default, it's got bad information in it. service automount stop chkconfig automount off On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 10:41, David Rankin wrote: > Thanks Jack, sorry for the lack of initial info. I'm just wondering what the > messages are. Server has been running fine for over 2 years and for some > reason this showed up in my log and I was just curious. I looks like it is > showing up on a daily basis now (well almost a daily basis). Here is the > latest round: ... -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "Did you keep a watch for the Dead Man's Wind, did you see the woman with the comb in her hand wailing away on the wall of the strand as you danced to the Turkish Song of the Damned?" -- Turkish Song Of The Damned from If I Should Fall From Grace With God by The Pogues Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 11:31, Jack Coates wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ echo $PATH > /usr/local/bin/:/home/jack/bin/:/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/:/sbin/:/usr/sbin/:/usr/local/sbin/:/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01//bin > > that looks okay... but . is effectively in my path!! I discovered this > by doing a tab completion line that matched a script in my ~. This is > with msec level 3 > > Maybe related to bash programmable completion? Anyone else seen this > behavior? I don't quite understand what the problem is. Are you saying that '.' shouldn't be in your path or that it should be? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< -6. Ooops, I should really have change directory before doing that chmod -R bin.bin . --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 11:59, Eric Huff wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:31:26 -0800 > Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ echo $PATH > > /usr/local/bin/:/home/jack/bin/:/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/:/sbi > > n/:/usr/sbin/:/usr/local/sbin/:/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/loca > > l/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01//bin > > > > that looks okay... but . is effectively in my path!! I discovered > > this by doing a tab completion line that matched a script in my ~. > > This is with msec level 3 > > > > Maybe related to bash programmable completion? Anyone else seen > > this behavior? > > Why are there double /'s in the path? Not that that has anything to > do with your problem... this .bash_profile is the same on five machines, and the others don't have the doubled slashes or the . problem. the problem box did not have bash-completion in the RPM list, so I just added bash-completion-20030821-3mdk.noarch.rpm and checked that bash is at 2.05b-14mdk on several boxes. The double-slashes are now gone, but it still includes . in the path. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "Brainiac's daughter made me a suit of bricks and mortar and a matching stove pipe hat, oh yes, Brainiac's daughter took me on a sleigh ride underwater and I'm crazy for girls like that." -- Brainiac's Daughter from Chips From The Chocolate Fireball by The Dukes of Stratosphear Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] read-only floppy workaround
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:12:03 + Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 17 Nov 2003 7:00 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > Just had a problem where I couldn't write to a floppy -- tried a > > number of things without luck, and google threads I read indicated > > "hardware problems" from those answering; but the OPs did not > > believe that since their floppy works under other OSs... I dug > > some more and found a workaround which simply involves > > rmmod/modprobe floppy... > > > > http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/query.php?bug=98 > > > > HTHSomeoneElseAvoidTheHassles > > You know what I'm going to say, don't you Pierre? It should be on the > TWiki under HardwareIssues. Pretty please? Well... this is not a h/w issue per se... Actually, I think this should be in a WorkArounds section wherein all the entries are noted to be just that: "workarounds" they are only intended to be used until the root problem is fixed -- in this case, the floppy module, or maybe the kernel itself... This is not a permanent fix. Haven't visited the Twiki in a few weeks; but I'll have a look RSN... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:31:26 -0800 Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . is effectively in my path!! I see the same on 9.2rc2 :^P should be bugged as a security flaw IMO Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Jack Coates wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ echo $PATH
> /usr/local/bin/:/home/jack/bin/:/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/:/sbin/:/usr/sbin/:/usr/local/sbin/:/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01//bin
>
> that looks okay... but . is effectively in my path!! I discovered this
> by doing a tab completion line that matched a script in my ~. This is
> with msec level 3
This is because of the "::" that appears about 2/3 of the way into the
$PATH - this is the functional equivalent of ":.:" ... and that is a Bad
Thing to have in there, as you know.
I'd suggest hunting through the various places in the scripts where the
$PATH is amended, and finding where this is being set. There are a number
of places it could be - /etc/profile, somewhere under /etc/profile.d,
~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, the rc file for your display manager ...
Or, you might want to just use the checkpath function that was posted in
the alt.os.linux.mandrake newsgroup by Chris F.A. Johnson to clean this
up. You can place a file like the following into your /etc/profile.d dir;
make it executable, and name it "zz_local.sh" (to ensure that it will run
last - they're executed in alphabetical order):
#!/bin/bash
checkpath ()
{
error=0
newPATH=
local IFS=":"
for p in ${PATH//\/\//\/}
do
if [ ! -d "$p" ]; then
echo "checkpath: $p is not a directory; removing it" >&2
else
case :$newPATH: in
*:$p:*) echo "checkpath: $p already in path" >&2
;;
*)
[ -d "$p" ] && newPATH=${newPATH:+$newPATH:}$p
;;
esac
fi
done
PATH=$newPATH
unset newPATH
}
checkpath
export PATH
This will not only remove the offending "::", it will remove any duplicate
entries it finds (a couple of which you also have in yours), as well as
any entries pointing to dirs which do not exist.
HTH!
--
Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0
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another to press it into the skin of a friend." - James Lileks
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Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:31:26 -0800, Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about [expert] WTF?? $PATH question: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ echo $PATH >/usr/local/bin/:/home/jack/bin/:/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/:/sbin/:/usr/s >bin/:/usr/local/sbin/:/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/b >in:/usr/games:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01//bin > >that looks okay... but . is effectively in my path!! I discovered this >by doing a tab completion line that matched a script in my ~. This is >with msec level 3 > >Maybe related to bash programmable completion? Anyone else seen this >behavior? Don`t think it`s bash completion, `cause I haven`t installed bash completion. Still I had similar path echoes since 9.2 last week. Yet to find the answer. At this moment I don`t, but I did clean up my path additional statements in ~/.bashrc yesterday. Perhaps we needed a path in 9.1 and added it to .bashrc and now it`s already `done for us` by installing 9.2? Ciao, =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/uTS8wC/zk+cxEdMRAoKjAJ9OfXJehjhx5REChYnjQdMDmaR4gACg7Zlj tz0bd3daQoyQAE8FtdkekPQ= =rrn4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:18, Michael Holt wrote: > On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 11:31, Jack Coates wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ echo $PATH > > /usr/local/bin/:/home/jack/bin/:/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/:/sbin/:/usr/sbin/:/usr/local/sbin/:/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01//bin > > > > that looks okay... but . is effectively in my path!! I discovered this > > by doing a tab completion line that matched a script in my ~. This is > > with msec level 3 > > > > Maybe related to bash programmable completion? Anyone else seen this > > behavior? > > I don't quite understand what the problem is. Are you saying that '.' > shouldn't be in your path or that it should be? should not. It's not that big a deal I suppose, but it's not The Right Way(TM) for things to be. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "And it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning!" -- Boys From County Hell from Red Roses For Me by The Pogues Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:32, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:31:26 -0800 Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > . is effectively in my path!! > > I see the same on 9.2rc2 :^P > > should be bugged as a security flaw IMO Interesting... this was an rc2 system that I upgraded. Any one else seeing this behavior? -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "This is not the greatest song in the world, this is just a tribute." -- Tribute by Tenacious D Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:49, Bill Mullen wrote: ... > This is because of the "::" that appears about 2/3 of the way into the > $PATH - this is the functional equivalent of ":.:" ... and that is a Bad > Thing to have in there, as you know. > ah-hah -- missed that. > I'd suggest hunting through the various places in the scripts where the > $PATH is amended, and finding where this is being set. There are a number > of places it could be - /etc/profile, somewhere under /etc/profile.d, > ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, the rc file for your display manager ... > > Or, you might want to just use the checkpath function that was posted in > the alt.os.linux.mandrake newsgroup by Chris F.A. Johnson to clean this > up. You can place a file like the following into your /etc/profile.d dir; > make it executable, and name it "zz_local.sh" (to ensure that it will run > last - they're executed in alphabetical order): this rocks -- thanks! -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "Come on you rambling boys of pleasure and ladies of easy leisure, we must say Adios until we see Almaria once again." -- Fiesta from If I Should Fall From Grace With God by The Pogues Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:18:28 -0800 Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the problem box did not have bash-completion in the RPM list, so I > just added bash-completion-20030821-3mdk.noarch.rpm and checked > that bash is at 2.05b-14mdk on several boxes. The double-slashes > are now gone, but it still includes . in the path. It doesn't happen here on 9.1. ~/a/_backup $ bash --version GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. ~/a/_backup $ rpm -q bash bash-2.05b-12mdk eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] problem with pio mode
Any idea? why 16 bit ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# /sbin/hdparm -v /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount= 16 (on) IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq= 0 (off) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) geometry = 9964/255/63, sectors = 160086528, start = 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# dmesg [...] Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_I RQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx SIS5513: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:02.5 SIS5513: chipset revision 208 SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later SIS5513: SiS735 ATA 100 (2nd gen) controller ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0, ATA DISK drive blk: queue c0181bc0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x) hdc: SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616Q, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: host protected area => 1 hda: 160086528 sectors (81964 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=9964/255/63, UDMA(33) Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 < p5 p6 p7 > [...] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This brings me to the maddening thing about linux over the last year or two. There used to be two files (as I recall) within which PATH was set: /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile. Now neither file contains much of anything related to setting path. I have no idea where the bulk of PATH is set now. I have looked through /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bashrc, /etc/bashrc, /etc/rc.local, /etc/rc.sysinit. I would also like to fix this (checked my 9.2 box and it does have the "::" in my path). Where is path really set? It is NOT /etc/profile (look at it, there is hardly any path info in it at all) nor ~/.bash_profile. praedor On Monday 17 November 2003 03:18 pm, Jack Coates wrote: > On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 11:59, Eric Huff wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:31:26 -0800 > > > > Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ echo $PATH > > > /usr/local/bin/:/home/jack/bin/:/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/:/sbi > > > n/:/usr/sbin/:/usr/local/sbin/:/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/loca > > > l/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01//bin > > > > > > that looks okay... but . is effectively in my path!! I discovered > > > this by doing a tab completion line that matched a script in my ~. > > > This is with msec level 3 [...] > > this .bash_profile is the same on five machines, and the others don't > have the doubled slashes or the . problem. > > the problem box did not have bash-completion in the RPM list, so I just > added bash-completion-20030821-3mdk.noarch.rpm and checked that bash is > at 2.05b-14mdk on several boxes. The double-slashes are now gone, but it > still includes . in the path. [...] - -- "Events are in the saddle and ride mankind." - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uTq9aKr9sJYeTxgRAvvBAJ4g8v017m8Mmgo0w4L39a+fAYiOUgCffZYr LFB+AFW6cFpidiYo/HNfGUc= =+WLF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:51:10 +, Dick Gevers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question: >Don`t think it`s bash completion, `cause I haven`t installed bash >completion. Still I had similar path echoes since 9.2 last week. Yet to >find the answer. At this moment I don`t, but I did clean up my path >additional statements in ~/.bashrc yesterday. errata: s/h/b: ~/bash_profile yesterday. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/uTuQwC/zk+cxEdMRAnjAAJ48P9jVhmO0wLZaU9XiztJGb2/jpQCfYDmu AHnbpxYOB+ITr7uNQ89PEjc= =fnEZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question...only in user path
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It appears that the "::" (effectively ".") in $PATH is restricted to user. Root's path on 9.2 is OK in this regard. praedorhh -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uTvCaKr9sJYeTxgRAleuAJ99ZyFG5lY8hEeSyuy474Ibuw68ZQCgjuqJ SPuvW6nRi53oCQECZxG1pYA= =CtSR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Bill Mullen wrote: > This will not only remove the offending "::", it will remove any > duplicate entries it finds (a couple of which you also have in yours), > as well as any entries pointing to dirs which do not exist. If you find seeing the output of the script to be disconcerting, just change both instances of ">&2" to ">/dev/null". Sorry that I didn't catch this bit earlier. :( -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "In communities where men build ships for their own sons to fish or fight from, quality is never a problem." -- J. A. Dever Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
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I think I can safely say that this is not set in any file in /etc/*. Since it
isn't there ("::" in path) for root, but only for user, I suspect it is
somewhere in $HOME (?).
praedor
On Monday 17 November 2003 04:09 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:18:28 -0800
>
> Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > the problem box did not have bash-completion in the RPM list, so I
> > just added bash-completion-20030821-3mdk.noarch.rpm and checked
> > that bash is at 2.05b-14mdk on several boxes. The double-slashes
> > are now gone, but it still includes . in the path.
>
> It doesn't happen here on 9.1.
>
> ~/a/_backup $ bash --version
> GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu)
> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>
> ~/a/_backup $ rpm -q bash
> bash-2.05b-12mdk
>
> eric
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Re: [expert] /dev/dsp always in use
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 1:25 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 17 Nov 2003 1:09 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > On Sunday 16 November 2003 05:34 pm, elPunishar wrote: > > > high all! > > > > > > i've got a problem on mandrake 9.1 with my nforce onboard > > > soundcard. > > > > > > /dev/dsp seems to be alway in use, even when theres no other > > > program running that has anything to do with sound. > > > > First off, do (as root) a: > > > > lsof /dev/dsp > > > > and it will show you what (if anything) has it tied up. If > > something has it, you can kill it using the given pid number. If > > nothing is hoarding it, then you might want to go into the KDE > > control center and reduce the amount of time that artsd (the usual > > suspect!) is using. > > > > HTHs! > > Under 9.1 I've had a few niggles with sound. The first improvement > was when I followed the advice to find sound in kde's control center, > and shorten the release time to 1. That was a big improvement. > > For some apps you may need to run kickarts, which temporarily switches > off artsd. It installs a tray icon so you can switch arts in and out > at will. HTH > > Anne thank you all! the command: artsshell suspend works like a charm :) greetings. lukas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
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I should indicate that I scanned every file in /etc that contained any path
statements via grep. Nothing untoward appeared.
On Monday 17 November 2003 04:42 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> I think I can safely say that this is not set in any file in /etc/*. Since
> it isn't there ("::" in path) for root, but only for user, I suspect it is
> somewhere in $HOME (?).
>
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Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 13:42, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
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>
> I think I can safely say that this is not set in any file in /etc/*. Since it
> isn't there ("::" in path) for root, but only for user, I suspect it is
> somewhere in $HOME (?).
>
> praedor
I think it's the transitions from end of line to beginning of line.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ grep PATH .bash_profile
PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin
PATH=/sbin/:/usr/sbin/:/usr/local/sbin/:$PATH
PATH=/usr/local/bin/:/home/jack/bin/:/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/:$PATH
export USERNAME BASH_ENV PATH PS1
...
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Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 13:16, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > This brings me to the maddening thing about linux over the last year or two. > There used to be two files (as I recall) within which PATH was set: > /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile. Now neither file contains much of anything > related to setting path. I have no idea where the bulk of PATH is set now. > I have looked through /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bashrc, /etc/bashrc, > /etc/rc.local, /etc/rc.sysinit. > > I would also like to fix this (checked my 9.2 box and it does have the "::" in > my path). Where is path really set? It is NOT /etc/profile (look at it, > there is hardly any path info in it at all) nor ~/.bash_profile. > > praedor ... read /etc/profile again, you'll see that it sources and runs all the files in /etc/profile.d/. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "Stark raving naked in the fornication nation!" -- Debbie Gibson Is Pregnant With My Two-Headed Love Child from Root Hog or Die by Mojo Nixon & Skid Roper Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:58:54 -0500, Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote about Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question:
>I should indicate that I scanned every file in /etc that contained any path
>
>statements via grep. Nothing untoward appeared.
>
>On Monday 17 November 2003 04:42 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
>> I think I can safely say that this is not set in any file in /etc/*.
>Since> it isn't there ("::" in path) for root, but only for user, I suspect
>it is> somewhere in $HOME (?).
As Bill Mullen already indicated, it can be in your display manager rc file.
Locate kdmrc or whichever you load your $DISPLAY with. IIRC there
was a double colon and/or double slash in kdmrc in 9.1 too.
(BTW your GnuPG sig never comes thru as okay; maybe yahoo mangling?)
HTH
Ciao,
=Dick Gevers=
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Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:53, Jack Coates wrote: > > I don't quite understand what the problem is. Are you saying that '.' > > shouldn't be in your path or that it should be? > > should not. It's not that big a deal I suppose, but it's not The Right > Way(TM) for things to be. :) You seemed pretty emphatic about it's presence in earlier posts; What effect does it have? It means you can execute hidden files? If that's the case, couldn't you do that anyway - if you knew what the filename was? I suppose just for policy, you would want as few things in a users path as possible - is that just what it's about? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 0. Just add yourself to the password file and make a directory... --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] problem with pio mode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:12:17 +0100, Angelo Naselli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about [expert] problem with pio mode: Angelo, To me it isn`t clear what your problem is. Must I guess from the subject? If I am not mistaken UDMA(33) is recognized fine for your Maxtor, pio is for older disks. Can`t you boot? Can`t you install? Tell us more. BFN =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/uUqTwC/zk+cxEdMRAqnVAJ9ysZWGJYbEsKWcoyLmLivU4o5LrgCguVV0 r+rTq+Fk4AJjOCqIBNt9m3I= =UpPj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LG Drive and VMWare
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 6:17 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > Older Linux's have been recently discovered to count uptime to 497 days > then using a new form of math 497 + 1 = 0 . I'm not sure but I think > it has something to do with a Honeywell emulation layer. (For those who > don't know Honeywell(IFRC) mainframes had both -0 and +0, and although > -0 = +0, (0-1) != (-0+1) go figure) One's complement arithmetic. To negate a number you just invert all the bits. So zero is represented as both 111...111 and 000...000. These days we use two's complement, where to negate a number you invert all the bits and add one. There's only one zero, but an extra negative number that doesn't have a positive representation: 100...000. So the range of an eight bit signed number is -128 to +127. In eight bit two's complement arithmetic -(-128) = -128 go figure ;-) Of course, that doesn't anything to do with it though. A simple count of 100Hz ticks would fill an unsigned 32 bit integer in 497 days, 2 hours, 27 minutes, 52.96 seconds. After which it would wrap around to zero. Interestingly enough Windows 95 had almost exactly the same situation, but since they counted at 1000Hz, it triggered after only 49.7 days. The result was a little worse too: the machine crashed. Strangely enough this bug was not discovered until the year 2000. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Michael Holt wrote: > What effect does it have? It means you can execute hidden files? If > that's the case, couldn't you do that anyway - if you knew what the > filename was? I suppose just for policy, you would want as few things > in a users path as possible - is that just what it's about? What having ":.:" (or its equivalent, "::") in your $PATH does is allow the current working directory to be included in any search for executable files. This is (wisely, IMHO) considered to be a security risk, as it can lead to the execution of a file other than the one you had intended, if that file has the same name and the ":.:" appears earlier in the PATH than the directory in which the intended file resides. Obviously, it is *far* more important that such an entry not be part of root's PATH than a user's, but it's a risk in the latter case as well. -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "In communities where men build ships for their own sons to fish or fight from, quality is never a problem." -- J. A. Dever Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] What version for production:
Just want to ask a really quick question. Im going to setup a PDC with Mandrake. It will have Samba 3 as OpenLDAP 2.1.22. What version of Mandrake is better suited for a production environment? 9.0? 9.1? or 9.2? Any recommendations and input is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] testing pgp sig
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Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
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That was it. Thank you. /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc contains:
SystemPath=/usr//bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
UserPath=/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
Both the system path and user path have the ::. I guess if I logged in as
root, started up kde, then it would be in root's path.
praedor
On Monday 17 November 2003 05:13 pm, Dick Gevers wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:58:54 -0500, Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote about Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question:
> >I should indicate that I scanned every file in /etc that contained any
> > path
> >
> >statements via grep. Nothing untoward appeared.
> >
> >On Monday 17 November 2003 04:42 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> >> I think I can safely say that this is not set in any file in /etc/*.
> >
> >Since> it isn't there ("::" in path) for root, but only for user, I
> > suspect it is> somewhere in $HOME (?).
>
> As Bill Mullen already indicated, it can be in your display manager rc
> file.
>
> Locate kdmrc or whichever you load your $DISPLAY with. IIRC there
> was a double colon and/or double slash in kdmrc in 9.1 too.
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Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 7:31 pm, Jack Coates wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ echo $PATH > /usr/local/bin/:/home/jack/bin/:/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/:/sbin/:/usr/sb >in/:/usr/local/sbin/:/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin: >/usr/games:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01//bin > > that looks okay... but . is effectively in my path!! I discovered this > by doing a tab completion line that matched a script in my ~. This is > with msec level 3 Standard Unix behavior has always been to give users "." in their path but not root. man login reads: "PATH defaults to /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:. for normal users, and to /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin for root." However this is not the case. A login session (ie a virtual terminal) on my MDK9.1 machine does not give me "." on the path. An X (KDE) login does. Note that man login specifies: /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:. and the string in Jack's and my $PATH says: /usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin:: which has two syntax errors and specifies /usr/bin twice. Also note that all Mandrake sourced RPMs avoid using /usr/local. I'd say that Mandrake hacked it, and got it wrong. The man login string appears exactly in a virtual terminal session, except for the missing "." which could be a hack that Mandrake got right. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 11:14 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > That was it. Thank you. /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc contains: > > SystemPath=/usr//bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin > UserPath=/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin > > Both the system path and user path have the ::. I guess if I logged in as > root, started up kde, then it would be in root's path. Interestingly enough, according to the (9.1) documentation, su does not change PATH unless it also changes directory to the new users HOME. Yet we all know it does. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 14:21, Michael Holt wrote: > On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:53, Jack Coates wrote: > > > > I don't quite understand what the problem is. Are you saying that '.' > > > shouldn't be in your path or that it should be? > > > > should not. It's not that big a deal I suppose, but it's not The Right > > Way(TM) for things to be. > > :) You seemed pretty emphatic about it's presence in earlier posts; > What effect does it have? It means you can execute hidden files? If > that's the case, couldn't you do that anyway - if you knew what the > filename was? I suppose just for policy, you would want as few things > in a users path as possible - is that just what it's about? the real issue for me is expected versus non-expected behavior. There is a security risk, which is fairly arcane unless a large class of boxes are going to exhibit this behavior (no matter how arcane and difficult the hole, if hundred of boxes will respond in the same way then an exploit script will be written). -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "And the head said that you always were a queer one from the start, for careers you say you want to be remembered for your art, your obsession gets you known throughout the school for being strange, making life-sized models of The Velvet Underground in clay." -- Expectations from Tigermilk by Belle and Sebastian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LG Drive and VMWare
> Of course, that doesn't anything to do with it though. A simple > count of 100Hz ticks would fill an unsigned 32 bit integer in 497 > days, 2 hours, 27 minutes, 52.96 seconds. > After which it would wrap around to zero. > > Interestingly enough Windows 95 had almost exactly the same > situation, but since they counted at 1000Hz, it triggered after > only 49.7 days. The result was a little worse too: the machine > crashed. Strangely enough this bug was not discovered until the > year 2000. That is doubly funny: 1. Windows is so far from real time, why would they bother counting in ms 2. It took years for any windows 95 machine to last that long w/o rebooting! -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 15:35, Richard Urwin wrote: > On Monday 17 Nov 2003 11:14 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > That was it. Thank you. /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc contains: > > > > SystemPath=/usr//bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin > > UserPath=/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin > > > > Both the system path and user path have the ::. I guess if I logged in as > > root, started up kde, then it would be in root's path. > > Interestingly enough, according to the (9.1) documentation, su does not change > PATH unless it also changes directory to the new users HOME. Yet we all know > it does. only if you use the - option, right? -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "start stop and start, stupid acting smart, flirting with the flicks, say it's just for kicks, you'll be the victim of your own dirty tricks you've got yourself to tease and displease." -- pictures of me from either/or by Elliott Smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 15:01, Bill Mullen wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Michael Holt wrote: > > > What effect does it have? It means you can execute hidden files? If > > that's the case, couldn't you do that anyway - if you knew what the > > filename was? I suppose just for policy, you would want as few things > > in a users path as possible - is that just what it's about? > > What having ":.:" (or its equivalent, "::") in your $PATH does is allow > the current working directory to be included in any search for executable > files. This is (wisely, IMHO) considered to be a security risk, as it can > lead to the execution of a file other than the one you had intended, if > that file has the same name and the ":.:" appears earlier in the PATH than > the directory in which the intended file resides. > > Obviously, it is *far* more important that such an entry not be part of > root's PATH than a user's, but it's a risk in the latter case as well. Ahh, that makes sense. So it's mostly good housekeeping. Thanks. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 14. dd if=/dev/null of=/vmunix --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Disapearing menu's
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 09:29, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: > I don't see the update yet on my mirror. I'll let you know what happens > after I do Just got a message from Vincent (after I asked him) The iso's and the updates went out at the same time and seem to be choking the update of files due to heavy download traffic. He asks that we be patient. *grin*. James > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sparenberg > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:58 PM > To: Expert List > Subject: Re: [expert] Disapearing menu's > > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 19:07, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 04:34, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > All, > > > > > >Just got a Note from Laurent with MDK that he's updated(ing) kdelibs > > > to fixe hopefully, the disapearing menu problem in kde. Would anyone > > > who can check, test and let me know? > > > > > > James > > > > Update, > > Per my question they are now in Cooker and Vincent is porting the > > patch to 9.2 as we speak. I'll keep ya'll posted. > > > > James > > Just got word that the fix is in updates Would those who have been > fighting this please check and let me know the results? The problem > seems to have been in kde-libs. > > James > > > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 15:54, Jack Coates wrote: > On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 14:21, Michael Holt wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:53, Jack Coates wrote: > > > > > > I don't quite understand what the problem is. Are you saying that '.' > > > > shouldn't be in your path or that it should be? > > > > > > should not. It's not that big a deal I suppose, but it's not The Right > > > Way(TM) for things to be. > > > > :) You seemed pretty emphatic about it's presence in earlier posts; > > What effect does it have? It means you can execute hidden files? If > > that's the case, couldn't you do that anyway - if you knew what the > > filename was? I suppose just for policy, you would want as few things > > in a users path as possible - is that just what it's about? > > the real issue for me is expected versus non-expected behavior. There is > a security risk, which is fairly arcane unless a large class of boxes > are going to exhibit this behavior (no matter how arcane and difficult > the hole, if hundred of boxes will respond in the same way then an > exploit script will be written). Hey, makes sense. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 32. Ummm... Didn't you say you turned it off? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /dev/dsp always in use
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:09 am, many eyes noted that Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Sunday 16 November 2003 05:34 pm, elPunishar wrote: > > high all! > > > > i've got a problem on mandrake 9.1 with my nforce onboard soundcard. > > > > /dev/dsp seems to be alway in use, even when theres no other program > > running that has anything to do with sound. > > First off, do (as root) a: > > lsof /dev/dsp > > and it will show you what (if anything) has it tied up. If something has > it, you can kill it using the given pid number. If nothing is hoarding it, > then you might want to go into the KDE control center and reduce the amount > of time that artsd (the usual suspect!) is using. > > HTHs! Run $ top and look if aplay is running. if so kill it. Charlie -- Depend on the rabbit's foot if you will, but remember, it didn't help the rabbit. -- R.E. Shay This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Disapearing menu's
Happened to me too. Here is how I fixed it: go into "menudrake" and hit save. All the menu options should reappear. -Dale From: James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Expert List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [expert] Disapearing menu's Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:11:28 -0800 On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 09:29, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: > I don't see the update yet on my mirror. I'll let you know what happens > after I do Just got a message from Vincent (after I asked him) The iso's and the updates went out at the same time and seem to be choking the update of files due to heavy download traffic. He asks that we be patient. *grin*. James > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sparenberg > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:58 PM > To: Expert List > Subject: Re: [expert] Disapearing menu's > > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 19:07, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 04:34, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > All, > > > > > >Just got a Note from Laurent with MDK that he's updated(ing) kdelibs > > > to fixe hopefully, the disapearing menu problem in kde. Would anyone > > > who can check, test and let me know? > > > > > > James > > > > Update, > > Per my question they are now in Cooker and Vincent is porting the > > patch to 9.2 as we speak. I'll keep ya'll posted. > > > > James > > Just got word that the fix is in updates Would those who have been > fighting this please check and let me know the results? The problem > seems to have been in kde-libs. > > James > > > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my desktop. I have an MSI KT333 mobo with via 8233 onboard sound. It worked fine in 9.0 and 9.1, kernels up to 2.4.21-0.13mdk. With a temporary install of SuSE 9.0 (kernel-2.4.21) it worked fine too. Mandrake 9.2, however, no worky. There is something wrong with the mandrake and/or 2.4.22 kernel sound system. The hardware is perfectly OK. No matter what I try, I cannot get sound working. The mixer settings are OK, the driver loads OK, and there are no error messages related to sound anywhere on the system. The system thinks all is OK but there simply is no sound. Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. Errors all over the place. On 9.2 I started with the default 2.4.22-10mdk kernel, then built and tried 2.4.22-21mdk. No go. No sound. I have now built the 2.4.22-multimedia kernel and...no multimedia! No sound. Same problem. There is something borked in the 2.4.22 kernel series with regards to sound. Could I get away with deleting the 2.4.22 kernel sound directory and replacing it lock, stock, and barrel with the kernel-source-2.4.21-0.13mdk sound directory? I want sound. No sound, no mandrake. Anyone have a fix? praedor -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uYEq3Fc5zsI6lBMRAlGjAJ9mPNWjwou9BV9e8PtehEWSBwvxEQCgmsyV vpXkxSdn2xBe7m/ySyV9wvA= =vFTE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:58 -0500 Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone have a fix? If you have a choice (OSS/ALSA), try them. I was feeling the same way (see bug at http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/query.php?bug=57 ). Have you tried "rmmod sound" and "modprobe sound"...? "ll /dev/sound" would also be useful I noticed that any of dsp, mixer, sequencer were missing at times... I've sometimes used "kill artsd" to get sound too... IMO, sound is in a really bad state -- I'm still running 9.2rc2; but will install 9.2 tomorrow, so the fun will probably start all over... :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
> This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to > uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my > desktop. > > Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the > 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. > Errors all over the place. On 9.2 I started with the default > 2.4.22-10mdk kernel, then built and tried 2.4.22-21mdk. No go. > No sound. I have now built the 2.4.22-multimedia kernel and...no > multimedia! No sound. Same problem. There is something borked > in the 2.4.22 kernel series with regards to sound. this is just a guess. I needed to do it the first time i installed 9.1 on my computer, but not the 2nd (same computer, though). Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto mute-->mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Monday 17 November 2003 11:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: > List, > Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 > Tim It's moved to contrib, but be careful, it is really quite broken in 9.2, especially as related to Network stuff. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
On Monday 17 November 2003 02:00 pm, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: > OK, the consesus seems to be buying Mandrake Club > membership, and most ppl prefer the download edition. > (mandrake, maybe dont spend too much time making all > those other editions...) > > I am just hoping Mandrake wont drop the ball on the > downloaded edition, and stop offering updates, like > Redhat did (kind-off)...thus only supporting the "paid > for" editions. > > Thanks all for the quick replies.I got my three > CD's downloaded in under 40mins over the weekend. > Suprisingly, the "chelo" site in Switzerland is > amazingly faster than all other many other mirrors I > have used located in the USI being located in the > US! Something speedy about transatlantic cables? > All the disk sets are based off of the same distribution tree, so no matter what disk set you install from, all the updates apply. The differences are usually in the level of support and the options available at install time. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
Any idea what happened to the GTK GUI? Paul On Monday 17 November 2003 12:15 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Monday 17 November 2003 11:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: > > List, > > Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 > > Tim > > It's moved to contrib, but be careful, it is really quite broken in 9.2, > especially as related to Network stuff. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: OK, the consesus seems to be buying Mandrake Club membership, and most ppl prefer the download edition. (mandrake, maybe dont spend too much time making all those other editions...) I am just hoping Mandrake wont drop the ball on the downloaded edition, and stop offering updates, like Redhat did (kind-off)...thus only supporting the "paid for" editions. Thanks all for the quick replies.I got my three CD's downloaded in under 40mins over the weekend. Suprisingly, the "chelo" site in Switzerland is amazingly faster than all other many other mirrors I have used located in the USI being located in the US! Something speedy about transatlantic cables? --- "Lawson, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think 120 a year is high. I would like to see this at 80. -Original Message- From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy? On Monday 17 November 2003 11:43 am, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: I have always done with 8.2. Basically same "Freedom, but not Free ($0.00)" We all understand the process consumes money! If all you want to do is contribute financially, continue to use the download edition and buy a Club membership. Highest profit margin plus you get access to all the Commercial software included in PowerPack (except Win4Lin and VMware trials) for download. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree You don't have to worry about Mandrake not offering the updates for the download edition, like some other distros. It's the same update process whether you have the download addition or any of the other editions. Mandrake doesn't have a subscription based update system. Updates are freely available to all. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Monday 17 November 2003 12:15 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Monday 17 November 2003 11:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: > > List, > > Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 > > Tim > > It's moved to contrib, but be careful, it is really quite broken in 9.2, > especially as related to Network stuff. ^^ What a horrible shame! It's really the only front end for a lot of network configuration. What are the problems? I didn't find any bug reports on Cooker Bugzilla or bugs.mandrakelinux.com, or discussions in the mailing list for the last 3 months... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Monday 17 November 2003 10:40 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: > On Monday 17 November 2003 12:15 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > > On Monday 17 November 2003 11:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: > > > List, > > > Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 > > > Tim > > > > It's moved to contrib, but be careful, it is really quite broken in 9.2, > > especially as related to Network stuff. > > ^^ > > What a horrible shame! It's really the only front end for a lot of network > configuration. > > What are the problems? I didn't find any bug reports on Cooker Bugzilla or > bugs.mandrakelinux.com, or discussions in the mailing list for the last 3 > months... Mandrake has completely changed it's network configuration files from what linuxconf expects. So everything gets borked if you try to use it. If you want to use it, you have a lot of work to do to make sure the right stuff is installed and the config files are in the right place. Unfortunately, if you know enough to fix it, you know enough to not need it. For networking configuration, try the drakconnect applet in Mandrake Control Center. Fortunately, that applet is much better now and makes netconf unnecessary IMO. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the info but no joy. Sound is broken, plain and simple...so is draksound, apparently. If I fire up draksound and select "another driver" and go with the oss driver, it doesn't properly update modules.conf. It only partially updates it, leaving most of it setup for alsa. In any case, I totally remove the alsa crap from modules.conf and went oss. No sound. There is nothing wrong with the hardware. It is fine and it works. It works in windoze, it works in 9.1 and 9.0. It is 9.2 that is borked. I'll take a look at your bug link but it is looking like I will have to abandon 9.2 on my desktop and go to SuSE. Without working sound, I am not interested in a distro and it is not acceptable to me to have paid $80 and have to drop the new distro to go back to the previous working version (which is the only other option I can see at this point other than going to SuSE which I KNOW works with sound). Anyone else have suggestions? Oh yes, trying to play with aumix and mute does nothing. I get little faint electronic chirps from my speakers when manipulating volume controls, etc, but that's it. This is true for alsa and oss drivers. On Monday 17 November 2003 09:35 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:58 -0500 Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > Anyone have a fix? > > If you have a choice (OSS/ALSA), try them. I was feeling the same way > (see bug at http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/query.php?bug=57 ). > > Have you tried "rmmod sound" and "modprobe sound"...? > > "ll /dev/sound" would also be useful I noticed that any of dsp, mixer, > sequencer were missing at times... > > I've sometimes used "kill artsd" to get sound too... > > IMO, sound is in a really bad state -- I'm still running 9.2rc2; but will > install 9.2 tomorrow, so the fun will probably start all over... :P -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uZh+3Fc5zsI6lBMRApcxAKCjxzz4M6UIDg6YMSvfSkyQ6wPLxgCggy1Y b1Y8raT3RI007TaA8pDvoQA= =2syH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:56:35 -0500, Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?: >Anyone else have suggestions? > >Oh yes, trying to play with aumix and mute does nothing. I get little >faint electronic chirps from my speakers when manipulating volume controls, >etc, but that's it. This is true for alsa and oss drivers. You have a registration number which you can use in case of last resort to get the help if you can`t get it here at www.mandrakeexpert.com. Good luck. (Stupid question, forgimme... did you check all the cabling? It didn`t by accident get loose anywhere?). Best regards, =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/uZzewC/zk+cxEdMRAjgnAJ9xdRRaRoTQEdlU08jCdFfyDrwUOgCgiIp4 lAQnkzZhgrHGC/qfgEonMyQ= =GCWw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yeah, I did check the wires. Last resort hope for a fix. Everything is fine. It is especially irritating that there isn't an error message anywhere on the system to be found. As far as the system is concerned, sound is OK. I have one more thing to try before I give it up for the night. I am still hoping to keep mandrake on this system. It's all setup and the SuSE install and setup system is different enough to make it difficult to deal with. praedor On Monday 17 November 2003 11:15 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:56:35 -0500, Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote about Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?: > >Anyone else have suggestions? > > > >Oh yes, trying to play with aumix and mute does nothing. I get little > >faint electronic chirps from my speakers when manipulating volume > > controls, etc, but that's it. This is true for alsa and oss drivers. > > You have a registration number which you can use in case of last resort to > get the help if you can`t get it here at www.mandrakeexpert.com. > > Good luck. > > (Stupid question, forgimme... did you check all the cabling? It didn`t by > accident get loose anywhere?). > > Best regards, > =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uZ+b3Fc5zsI6lBMRAnwlAKDAhbMK7/7L+vhgwCTZ4st6VK1DNgCeNr/m +RIfMKYfnD3SPT+8tA5ZLnE= =bqPw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Gnome and a dialer app?
I'm using kppp in Gnome. It takes an age to start, and won't minimise into the bottom panel (or if it can then I'd like to know how...), but can't see anything else even remotely as good. I think my experiment with gnome will probably end quite soon... Anton Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't generally use gnome (and haven't tried it for at least 6 months or more). Last evening, in trying to locate where the problem resided with regards to my desktop and sound (or lack thereof) I started up Gnome 2.4 for the first time. Pretty nice actually. I was pleasantly suprised. What I didn't find, however, was a dialer app like kppp. I would swear that I installed all the gnome stuff when I installed 9.2 but perhaps I missed something? Is there not a dedicated gnome dialer? What's its name? praedor - -- "Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way." - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uQphaKr9sJYeTxgRAkdZAJ4n1Bc8vNLugfnt/If37abQ+Ye3swCfWfIF tCzIb0mjlNh+2bgDewBXGtA= =S0h3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] How do you upgrade?
OK, my #1 problem with running Linux is dealing with upgrades. With the upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, the Mandrake upgrade worked pretty well, seeming to upgrade the stuff that needed, leaving alone the stuff that didn't. Now, 9.1 to 9.2 club, that was a fiasco. I finally moved my /home to a new partition, and blasted out /boot and /, installing in clean partitions. But what was left over was uploading all the little programs I like, say bidwatcher, KSetiSpy, Audacity, and the like, and nuking all the stuff I don't: devfs and supermount to name two. Then configuring a new hosts file, and setting up fstab to mount all the drives like I want them. So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe you don't. Or maybe you use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not interfere. I wanna know, cause I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my computer. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do you upgrade?
On Monday 17 November 2003 11:48 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > OK, my #1 problem with running Linux is dealing with upgrades. > > With the upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, the Mandrake upgrade worked pretty well, > seeming to upgrade the stuff that needed, leaving alone the stuff that > didn't. > > Now, 9.1 to 9.2 club, that was a fiasco. I finally moved my /home to a new > partition, and blasted out /boot and /, installing in clean partitions. But > what was left over was uploading all the little programs I like, say > bidwatcher, KSetiSpy, Audacity, and the like, and nuking all the stuff I > don't: devfs and supermount to name two. Then configuring a new hosts file, > and setting up fstab to mount all the drives like I want them. > > So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe you don't. Or maybe you > use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not interfere. I wanna know, > cause I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my computer. > I upgraded my desktop machine using urpmi against a local copy of the dist tree. It went very smoothly and I really had no problems. First thing I did was urpmi itself 'urpmi urpmi', then the kernel 'urpmi kernel' then reboot, then everything else using the --auto-select switch, 'urpmi --auto-select'. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Monday 17 November 2003 9:22 am, Björn Lundin wrote: > James Sparenberg wrote: > > > > Rob draksound AFAIK is only effective on PCI type cards. Since your is > > ISA, using the old standby of sndconfig (just urpmi sndconfig) This > > should bring you online no sweat. One note. You have to run it from a > > regular tty not a konsole or xterm window for it to work right. I've > > used this chipset in the past and it works well, sndconfig has it in > > it's database and can get you up. > I have a 4236-card which sndconfig can get sound from, but it have not, > (since mdk8.1) been able to save its settings. Every time i install a new > mdk since then I've had to resort to run pnpdump + isapnp, and comment out > when given multiple choise. I also put > > alias sound-slot-0 cs4232 > options sound dmabuf=1 > alias synth0 opl3 > options opl3 io=0x388 > options cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=0 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=10 Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
