Re: [expert] 9.2 keeps killing my router
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Bradley D. Pierson wrote: > I have a belkin 4 port router and for some reason mandrake 9.2 keeps > killing my connection to the net. what can I do? > Check the "lisa" service. There was a lot of noise on the cooker list during 9.2 development about it flooding the network with packets and doing similar things to Linksys hardware. -- Stew Benedict Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] 9.2 keeps killing my router
You'll need to give us more information in order for us to help you. Can you be specific as to what happens and when? The more details the better... David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bradley D. Pierson Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 3:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] 9.2 keeps killing my router I have a belkin 4 port router and for some reason mandrake 9.2 keeps killing my connection to the net. what can I do? -- Bradley D. Pierson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:42 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: > There`s easier ways to tackle that; IMHO. Proberbly failsafe is safe, but > why bother, if you`re careful and consider beforehand what you do, go to > init 1 and cd to where you want to make your changes. Of course, vi may be > the preferred editor for that, but I didn`t have the time to learn it yet. > Still mc has a pretty easy editor which will easily access what you need to > change. Well, at the point that the machine hard locks, keyboard doesn't respond, can't SSH into it and it becomes an effective doorstop, there is not much else to do but restart the machine and remove the lm_sensors script from the init process to troubleshoot the problem which is effectively what I did. When manually loading, it still causes the hard lock, again, no choice but to powercycle the machine which involves rebooting. > I would follow following scenario: a. make sure sensorsd service is not > running. b. Run the script provided, don`t allow it to modify your > conf.modules or whichever they suggest. You already know which modules the > script found, so check no modules are loaded, and if they that they are not > added by modules.conf. If no modules are listed in the output of lsmod > continue, if they are start service lm_sensors and with, for instance > Gkrellm see if you get any readings. That means the kernel gives them > direct. Only those modules which the kernel might not provide data output > for should be loaded as modules via modules.conf. Before any adjustment to > the modules stop the service and restart after added (or removing) any > modules which do not show up useful values. I tried manually loading an unloading one at a time but I might not have done it often enough to get the hard lock. Now it appears that the culprit is linked to one of the modules and since removing it, I no longer have the problem. > Compare your kernel logs, particularly /var/log/kernel/errors. It will show > bus collisions, if any. I was lucky I did not get hard locks when I ran too > many modules, but the logs filled alright. Well, all I got was hard locks and there was nothing in the logs to show what was causing it. I checked and there is nothing from the start until it shows the hard reboot with kernel reloading. > >I have just edited my modules file to load the i2c-proc module at bootup > >rather than letting it load from the lmsensors init script. If anyone has > >any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. > > So you appear to be infected by the reboot philosophy of certain O/S`s > (sometimes I am guilty of similar behaviours to analyze prob ;-), but with > this (unless hardlocked), I see no need to reboot. Since the only issue that I spoke of was the hardlock, not sure I follow your analysis about my troubleshooting style. I don't reboot my machine on a whim and certainly know how to init 1 and then back to init 3 if all I wanted was to test the init process. > >BTW, sensors.conf is stock and I did not add any lines to > > /etc/modules.conf > > You should, that is the only way for the service which this package > provides will read any data that are not provided by the kernel. Unless, > naturally, the kernel provides *all* for your particular mobo. Well, I will probably have to edit that eventually to get the temps for Vcore accurately reported but the stock conf file appears to be doing a great job so far on CPU temp, MB temp and fan speed. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.2 keeps killing my router
I have a belkin 4 port router and for some reason mandrake 9.2 keeps killing my connection to the net. what can I do? -- Bradley D. Pierson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] lm sensors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:42:00 +, Dick Gevers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [expert] lm sensors: Aargh, and I thought I cancelled this one just in time. Please waste. The next version is the final. Sorry. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/u/SJwC/zk+cxEdMRAlCRAJkB9cAD7694CALEz9QgTKsnju+74ACfZCP1 vaM+9gtg3fG9IT+df/OyH1I= =eQIN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:52 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > I only load the it87. The lm75 driver may be causing your problem, there > isn;t one on that board. Also, on the Soyo, I only got accurate readings > by specifying a socket type when modprobing the driver. the differnet > types are in the docs, but I figured out the Soyo is type 38. The voltages > are a little messy too. This can be fixed by making a few changes to the > sensors.conf file, but I haven't taken the time to figure out the > adjustments and do it. Here are the relevant lines that I added to my > rc.local file. Thanks very much for the info Greg. That must have been it. I removed the lm75 module and now it is starting and stopping fine. Also, I moved the i2c-proc module startup to the actual /etc/modules file so that it is started automatically at bootup. That appears to be much better for the script startup method and whether it helps or not, seems to be a little more elegant. I also added an options line in /etc/modules.conf for the it87 temp_type=0x38 option. I will check later to see how accurate the temps are. Again, thanks much for the info, it has probably saved me from a few more hard boots. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Bryan, On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:36:51 -0500, Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about [expert] lm sensors: >Scenario, I installed lmsensors by RPM, ran sensors-detect and let it >create the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors configuration file. When I restarted >the computer, the lmsensors init script kicked off, showed loading modules >and then nothing, hard lock. I power cycled the machine, booted into >failsafe mode, disabled lmsensors init script and went back into Linux. There`s easier ways to tackle that; IMHO. Proberbly failsafe is safe, but why bother, if you`re careful and consider beforehand what you do, go to init 1 and cd to where you want to make your changes. Of course, vi may be the preferred editor for that, but I didn`t have the time to learn it yet. Still mc has a pretty easy editor which will easily access what you need to change. >I >manually tried to load lmsensors init script and it hard locked again. I >rebooted, went back and tried to manually load the modules that are loading >from the script and they loaded fine. I then manually unloaded the modules >and they also unloaded fine. > >I rewrote the lmsensors init script so that it was manually loading the >modules rather than pulling them from the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors file. I > >ran the script and it loaded the modules, then stopped the script and it >unloaded the modules. When I went to restart it, the machine hard locked >again. I would follow following scenario: a. make sure sensorsd service is not running. b. Run the script provided, don`t allow it to modify your conf.modules or whichever they suggest; you already know which modules the script found, so check no modules are loaded, and if they are not see if Gkrellm already gets some kernel data. If yes don`t put that stream in modules.conf. If no kernel data is read add any of the modules per the script to modules.conf. Before each step and after each erroneous load of modules that don`t add a data stream that Gkrellm can read you have to stop the service & unload the previous set of loaded modules. Compare your kernel logs, particularly /var/log/kernel/errors. It will show bus collisions, if any. I was lucky I did not get hard locks when I ran too many modules, but the logs filled alright. In 9.0 and 9.1 there were a couple of versions of the kernel that did not have all sensors for *my* modules, I don`t know your board so with current kernels it could PH be similar, though I estimate the chances extremely slight, given the activity I read on Cooker of Mr. Thomas Backlund and others with respect to the kernel packages. >I have just edited my modules file to load the i2c-proc module at bootup >rather than letting it load from the lmsensors init script. If anyone has >any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. So you appear to be infected by the reboot philosophy of certain O/S`s (sometimes I am guilty of similar behaviours to analyze probs. ;-), but with this (unless hardlocked), I see no need to reboot. >BTW, sensors.conf is stock and I did not add any lines to /etc/modules.conf You should, that is the only way for the service which this package provides will read any data that are not provided by the kernel. Unless, naturally, the kernel provides *all* for your particular mobo. Best of luck, =Dick Gevers= CDCS; temporarily banking SW tester. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/u/P0wC/zk+cxEdMRAi8TAKC3vmCfK/pbYTuPzKU6IiwN/ZNWAACcDqku qZ50ekdWPDCKGlAvVhpqD+A= =SYVR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:36:51 -0500, Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about [expert] lm sensors: >Scenario, I installed lmsensors by RPM, ran sensors-detect and let it >create the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors configuration file. When I restarted >the computer, the lmsensors init script kicked off, showed loading modules >and then nothing, hard lock. I power cycled the machine, booted into >failsafe mode, disabled lmsensors init script and went back into Linux. There`s easier ways to tackle that; IMHO. Proberbly failsafe is safe, but why bother, if you`re careful and consider beforehand what you do, go to init 1 and cd to where you want to make your changes. Of course, vi may be the preferred editor for that, but I didn`t have the time to learn it yet. Still mc has a pretty easy editor which will easily access what you need to change. >I >manually tried to load lmsensors init script and it hard locked again. I >rebooted, went back and tried to manually load the modules that are loading >from the script and they loaded fine. I then manually unloaded the modules >and they also unloaded fine. > >I rewrote the lmsensors init script so that it was manually loading the >modules rather than pulling them from the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors file. I > >ran the script and it loaded the modules, then stopped the script and it >unloaded the modules. When I went to restart it, the machine hard locked >again. I would follow following scenario: a. make sure sensorsd service is not running. b. Run the script provided, don`t allow it to modify your conf.modules or whichever they suggest. You already know which modules the script found, so check no modules are loaded, and if they that they are not added by modules.conf. If no modules are listed in the output of lsmod continue, if they are start service lm_sensors and with, for instance Gkrellm see if you get any readings. That means the kernel gives them direct. Only those modules which the kernel might not provide data output for should be loaded as modules via modules.conf. Before any adjustment to the modules stop the service and restart after added (or removing) any modules which do not show up useful values. Compare your kernel logs, particularly /var/log/kernel/errors. It will show bus collisions, if any. I was lucky I did not get hard locks when I ran too many modules, but the logs filled alright. In 9.0 and 9.1 there were a couple of versions that did not have all sensors for *my* modules, I don`t know your board so PH it could be similar. >I have just edited my modules file to load the i2c-proc module at bootup >rather than letting it load from the lmsensors init script. If anyone has >any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. So you appear to be infected by the reboot philosophy of certain O/S`s (sometimes I am guilty of similar behaviours to analyze prob ;-), but with this (unless hardlocked), I see no need to reboot. >BTW, sensors.conf is stock and I did not add any lines to /etc/modules.conf You should, that is the only way for the service which this package provides will read any data that are not provided by the kernel. Unless, naturally, the kernel provides *all* for your particular mobo. Best of luck, =Dick Gevers= CDCS; temporarily banking package tester. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/u/G3wC/zk+cxEdMRAh4JAKCf2sA9i3zOso2edquVK8UYFqoZowCdGyG1 Yw47DfYArilWbn7YL6w/1VY= =qffd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 06:47, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: > On Wednesday 19 November 2003 09:24 am, Timothy Brown wrote: > > After you get it started now go to your browser and go to > > https://localhost:1 make sur you have https > > > > Right, I know how to access it manually. I was just wondering if I missed > a K-menu entry to start a browser with that URL. No big deal if there isn't - > I can add one or use a bookmark. I suppose you could put a icon on the desktop to go to URL but since it isn't an application but rather a web application and it is host/ip dependent it's more hassle and more likely to break things than to enable them. Although there are cheats and shortcuts, as soon as you do it and set it up to open on Konqueror people will be complaining that they want firebird mozilla or some other browser. IMHO it's a a conflict avoidance tactic. James > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
From: "Praedor Atrebates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In the interest of avoiding hard lockups and troubleshooting THAT (see the >lm_sensors thread) when all I want to do is troubleshoot my sound problems, >which lm_sensor module(s) should I load in order to use dmidecode? I would >like to restrict the modules to the minimum needed to get the information you >request. > none. the dmidecode is a standalone program that will probe your bios/system dmi, and give out as much info as it can... -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: urpmi..great tool...just need to finalize a few question
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:36 pm, Björn Lundin wrote: > Jason Williams wrote: > > > > > Does urpmi have the ability to pull security patches down and > > automatically install? > You just have to define an update source. All the update mirrors have the same ../base/hdlist.cz format as the dist tree, so you can add it with urpmi.addmedia updates --update ftp://path to source with ../base/hdlist.cz The --update switch tells urpmi that this is the update source and then you can apply security updates with urpmi.update -a && urpmi --auto-select --update This updates the local hdlists and then autoselects packages for installation based on what you have installed only from the update repository. Have fun. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In the interest of avoiding hard lockups and troubleshooting THAT (see the lm_sensors thread) when all I want to do is troubleshoot my sound problems, which lm_sensor module(s) should I load in order to use dmidecode? I would like to restrict the modules to the minimum needed to get the information you request. praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:20 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote: [...] > would you mind sending me the output of the following: > > # lspcidrake -v > # cat /var/log/dmesg > # dmidecode > > > (to get the dmidecode program, youhave to install lm_sensors package, but > you may remove it after if you want...) - -- "Events are in the saddle and ride mankind." - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE/u9+HaKr9sJYeTxgRAv7zAJjCnGLhg0qftcFbK94/cHhe1A3OAJ9W4piq rZ19ej/txu/May0Mj4/2cQ== =I2Z4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:03 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote: > in order to solve wich one kills your system, you should use the modprobe > command > and try to load one module at a time until it hangs... Originally, the problem module was the adm1021 module and that was due to the options line included in /etc/modules.conf that was suggested by sensors-detect. However, I removed that module and am no longer trying to load that one. Now, I can manually load all of them and then unload all of them. Running the script, I can also load all and then unload all, it is on the second attempt to load that I get problems. I am going to work on this more tonight, I am beginning to wonder if the problem may stem from trying to unload the i2c-proc module along with the others. For the most part, I don't see a reason to remove the proc module, even if you want to remove the individual sensor modules when shutting the system down. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: urpmi..great tool...just need to finalize a few question
At 09:36 PM 11/19/2003 +0100, you wrote: This might help you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] test]$ cat /etc/cron.weekly/update_mdk #!/bin/bash #Keeps the system updated urpmi.update -a --wget && urpmi --wget --auto --auto-select --no-verify-rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] test]$ you might want to change that to just get the updates, this first get new list from all of the defined urpmi-sources (urpmi.update -a), then updates all the installed packages (--auto-select), with no confirmation (--auto), regardless of not signed rpms (--no-verify-rpm), both operations using wget instead of curl. Since it's in cron.weekly, well once a week... This is on my destop, a produktion server proberbly needs restart of updated programs. /Björn Thanks Bjorn. I appreciate it. I was testing a few commands. After adding my media, I tried to update all the media with this: $ urpmi.update -a retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "updates"... ...retrieving done examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz] computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "main"... computing md5sum of retrieved source hdlist (or synthesis) ...retrieving failed: md5sum mismatch retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium "main" examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "contrib"... ...retrieving done examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz] Ok..updates seemed to have worked as did contrib, but main failed. Any particular reason why this may have happened? It seems that when "main" fails, I cant get a full listing of regular packages, like samba (2.2.8a). Is the best way to fix this to remove the media, and add a different media? I appreciate it. Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: urpmi..great tool...just need to finalize a few question
Jason Williams wrote: > Does urpmi have the ability to pull security patches down and > automatically install? > This might help you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] test]$ cat /etc/cron.weekly/update_mdk #!/bin/bash #Keeps the system updated urpmi.update -a --wget && urpmi --wget --auto --auto-select --no-verify-rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] test]$ you might want to change that to just get the updates, this first get new list from all of the defined urpmi-sources (urpmi.update -a), then updates all the installed packages (--auto-select), with no confirmation (--auto), regardless of not signed rpms (--no-verify-rpm), both operations using wget instead of curl. Since it's in cron.weekly, well once a week... This is on my destop, a produktion server proberbly needs restart of updated programs. /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 06:23, Tom Brinkman wrote: > This is dead simple and works well. Altho Pascal seems to > indicate it can be done as user. For me that wouldn't work, but > as root 'mkrescue --iso' created a bootable image named > "rescue.iso" (3.2 mb)in the directory I ran the command from. I > burned it with 'biso rescue.iso' > (alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject speed=12 dev=0,0,0 -dao') > tom # rpm -q --whatprovides /sbin/mkrescue > lilo-22.5.7.2-6mdk > > Besides being a boot CD for your currently running kernel, it > also provides some rescue options when you boot from it (similar > to booting the 1st Mandrake CD). > ... > create a Boot Disk > From: Pascal Cavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[snoyes]" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Le Dimanche 9 Novembre 2003 17:51, [snoyes] a écrit : > > For those interested, you can make an iso image of a boot disk if > you are > using LILO with the following command: > > /sbin/mkrescue --iso > > then just cdrecord it > ... Something wrong with mkrescue in 9.1. root# /sbin/mkrescue --iso unrecognized argument: --iso usage: mkrescue [--help] mkrescue [--version] mkrescue [--device ] [--fast] [--fs ext2|msdos|minix] [--initrd --kernel ] [--keymap ] [--nocompact] [--noformat] [--root ] --device is the floppy drive; e.g., /dev/fd0 --fast specifies creation using a loopback device, which may be faster --fs is the filesystem to make on the device; e.g., ext2 --help prints this helpfile --initrd and --kernel are the initial ramdisk & kernel files --keymap is the keyboard translation table; default to same as lilo.conf --noformat bypasses creation of a new filesystem on device --nocompact omits lilo map file compaction --root is the root filesystem for the boot floppy; e.g., current --version prints the version number of mkrescue Used without any arguments, mkrescue will use the running kernel booted by lilo, the companion initrd (if any), and the current root filesystem to make a bootable 1.44M rescue floppy. root# /sbin/mkrescue --version mkrescue version 1.2 - There is no reference to the option --iso in "man mkrescue" either. Is there something I am missing? TIA, Adolfo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] urpmi..great tool...just need to finalize a few question
I had to admint, urpmi is a very very good tool. I have not used the GUI portion of it yet, but I would like to test it. Right now, im strictly doing everything through the command line in preparation of putting Mandrake 9.2 onto a production server which will not require a GUI. So i've been playing with urpmi a lot. :) Just a few final questions. Does urpmi have the ability to pull security patches down and automatically install? I was trying out a few things with urpmi and im not sure if its user error (me) or something is not working correctly. For instance, I tried to specify a medium with urpmi doing the following: urpmi --media updates Did not seem to work as I was trying to grab a patch for nss_ldap. Is this the correct syntax? I would think you can pull down security patches through urpmi and install them automatically. I realize I can grab the packages via ftp, but would prefer to automate this if possible. Thanks for the input. Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 12:36 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: > I have recently started trying to install lm sensors on my computer which > has a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra Platinum motherboard. I have had very mixed > results with the sensors including some very hard to diagnose hard locks on > the machine when I attempt to load the sensor modules. > > Does anyone here have any experience working with lmsensors and want to > take a crack at helping me figure out the problem. > I have a Soyo KT400 DUB and I have got sensors running without trouble. I actually have the lm90 working by installing the version from cvs. It reads the diode off the processor and is a much more accurate temp. > Scenario, I installed lmsensors by RPM, ran sensors-detect and let it > create the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors configuration file. When I restarted > the computer, the lmsensors init script kicked off, showed loading modules > and then nothing, hard lock. I power cycled the machine, booted into > failsafe mode, disabled lmsensors init script and went back into Linux. I > manually tried to load lmsensors init script and it hard locked again. I > rebooted, went back and tried to manually load the modules that are loading > from the script and they loaded fine. I then manually unloaded the modules > and they also unloaded fine. > I only load the it87. The lm75 driver may be causing your problem, there isn;t one on that board. Also, on the Soyo, I only got accurate readings by specifying a socket type when modprobing the driver. the differnet types are in the docs, but I figured out the Soyo is type 38. The voltages are a little messy too. This can be fixed by making a few changes to the sensors.conf file, but I haven't taken the time to figure out the adjustments and do it. Here are the relevant lines that I added to my rc.local file. # I2C adapter drivers modprobe i2c-isa modprobe i2c-viapro # I2C chip drivers modprobe it87 temp_type=0x38 modprobe lm90 > I rewrote the lmsensors init script so that it was manually loading the > modules rather than pulling them from the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors file. I > ran the script and it loaded the modules, then stopped the script and it > unloaded the modules. When I went to restart it, the machine hard locked > again. > > I am currently trying to load only the i2c-viapro, i2c-isa, i2c-it87 and > it2-lm75 modules and skipping the adm1021 and eeprom modules since my > machine appears to have the most issues with the adm1021 module and I don't > really need the eeprom one. > > I have just edited my modules file to load the i2c-proc module at bootup > rather than letting it load from the lmsensors init script. If anyone has > any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. > I would just try without the lm75 loaded. Before I installed the newer version, I was running without any problems. > BTW, sensors.conf is stock and I did not add any lines to /etc/modules.conf > except the alias for char-major-89 i2c-dev because the other adm1021 line > should not be needed since I am not loading adm1021. Yes, that is correct. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'll send the information you request later today. Unfortunately I am at work and thus not able to access my desktop system. Not the same thing but on a related note, I did run through the troubleshooting process outlined by harddrake (ie, lspci -v, etc) and nothing untoward appeared. Perhaps you will see something more subtle when I can present it. As for bios version...I do not recall when I updated the bios last. I'll check that as well. Thanks, praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:20 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote: > From: "Praedor Atrebates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed [...] > are you using the latest bios? > > would you mind sending me the output of the following: > > # lspcidrake -v > # cat /var/log/dmesg > # dmidecode - -- "Events are in the saddle and ride mankind." - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/u8U4aKr9sJYeTxgRAtIaAKCEjvTsV/POahcDq/bLq6S3cUOx8gCgmpNJ YGAQqbwu3a4IUEF2vAAHF+k= =hTcL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
From: "Praedor Atrebates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed aumix >and maxed out all the sliders. > >All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. If I >use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. Sound >works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when installing >9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. > are you using the latest bios? would you mind sending me the output of the following: # lspcidrake -v # cat /var/log/dmesg # dmidecode (to get the dmidecode program, youhave to install lm_sensors package, but you may remove it after if you want...) I'll take a look if we need a workaround for the msi board and the apic/acpi stuff..., and if so I'll add it to my next kernel build that will be out by the end of this week... -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
From: "Bryan Phinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > I rewrote the lmsensors init script so that it was manually loading the > modules rather than pulling them from the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors file. I > ran the script and it loaded the modules, then stopped the script and it > unloaded the modules. When I went to restart it, the machine hard locked > again. > > I am currently trying to load only the i2c-viapro, i2c-isa, i2c-it87 and > it2-lm75 modules and skipping the adm1021 and eeprom modules since my machine > appears to have the most issues with the adm1021 module and I don't really > need the eeprom one. > in order to solve wich one kills your system, you should use the modprobe command and try to load one module at a time until it hangs... -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:15 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: > > The sound works just fine. I did have to install > > aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all > > it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now > > running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install > > (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel > > (2.4.22-10). > > Just for the record, are you having any trouble with APIC? Is > it disabled in your BIOS setting? No and no. > What's the boot params line > in lilo.conf. > > Thanks - given the severity of the report, all the information > is good to know. Asus A7V600 (KT600, VIA 8237 chipset). The sound chip on the motherboard is from Analog Devices, Inc., AD-1980, AC97 codec, and Mandrake assigns the snd-via82xx alsa driver to it. This works very well for everything but aRts, which is sometimes a little 'scratchy' for system notification sounds (which I don't use anyhow). append=" mem=nopentium devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=ht" I have a Asus GeF4, but use the XFree86 'nv' driver, so I don't really need 'mem=nopentium' in the append. Chas A Edwards just finally convinced me it can't hurt ;) I don't really need to disable ACPI, but since I don't use it, and Mandrake always adds acpi=ht, I leave it in too. Same append I've used for a long time, many kernels. I'll probly try 2.4.23-1mdk that is on the mirrors today. FWIW, the onboard NIC is a 3C-940, and I read so many bad reports, problems with the drivers that are used for it (3c2000, sk98lin) I just disabled it in bios an use an old D-Link NIC I had (8139too). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi woes
At 06:20 PM 11/19/2003 +, you wrote: urpmq will search all available media unless you force it to use a specific media with --media or restrict it to update media with --update It may be your 'main' source is not configured properly or maybe you are just being misled by the way urpmq will return a limited list if there is a close match. Compare for example what is returned if you do :- urpmq samba urpmq samb urpmq --fuzzy samba derek Ok..not sure what the problem was, but I did the following and it appears to be working now. I removed all the urpmi media and then re-added it. I then updated all my media, but I got the following error. $ urpmi.update -a retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "updates"... ...retrieving done examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz] computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "contrib"... computing md5sum of retrieved source hdlist (or synthesis) ...retrieving failed: md5sum mismatch retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium "contrib" examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz] Now, I see "updates" and "contrib" but I dont see "main". It also appears that "contrib" failed as well. however, when I search for samba now, I get all the releases, 2.2.8a to 3.0.0. Any ideas on what happened with the update? Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi woes
On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 5:41 pm, Jason Williams wrote: SNIP > > One last question regarding sources for urpmi. > I've been playing around with the commands to add media and remove media, > just to get a feel for things. > The only question I have now, is that when I do a search for samba, it only > lists samba3. From what im gathering, it is searching the 'contrib' tree > and not the 'main' tree. > > Is there a way to get urpmi to search both trees? Then, if I specifically > want to look for samba3, I could type: urpmq -i samb3 or something > similar? > > I appreciate it. > > Jason urpmq will search all available media unless you force it to use a specific media with --media or restrict it to update media with --update It may be your 'main' source is not configured properly or maybe you are just being misled by the way urpmq will return a limited list if there is a close match. Compare for example what is returned if you do :- urpmq samba urpmq samb urpmq --fuzzy samba derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi woes
At 02:41 AM 11/19/2003 +, you wrote: It is the tree on the mirror that is broken. We will have to wait until it is fixed. It is the file 'list' in the contrib folder that is out of date. The list includes the old kernel packages that were replaced. I do not know how urpmi uses the list file. It is clearly not essential since not all sources have one. When it is eventually fixed do a urpmi.update -a to bring your database in line with the mirror. You should also be updating the database for your updates source frequently. I automate my updates in a cron job with this :- urpmi.update updates && urpmi --update --auto --auto-select derek Thanks. I appreciate the input. One last question regarding sources for urpmi. I've been playing around with the commands to add media and remove media, just to get a feel for things. The only question I have now, is that when I do a search for samba, it only lists samba3. From what im gathering, it is searching the 'contrib' tree and not the 'main' tree. Is there a way to get urpmi to search both trees? Then, if I specifically want to look for samba3, I could type: urpmq -i samb3 or something similar? I appreciate it. Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] lm sensors
I have recently started trying to install lm sensors on my computer which has a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra Platinum motherboard. I have had very mixed results with the sensors including some very hard to diagnose hard locks on the machine when I attempt to load the sensor modules. Does anyone here have any experience working with lmsensors and want to take a crack at helping me figure out the problem. Scenario, I installed lmsensors by RPM, ran sensors-detect and let it create the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors configuration file. When I restarted the computer, the lmsensors init script kicked off, showed loading modules and then nothing, hard lock. I power cycled the machine, booted into failsafe mode, disabled lmsensors init script and went back into Linux. I manually tried to load lmsensors init script and it hard locked again. I rebooted, went back and tried to manually load the modules that are loading from the script and they loaded fine. I then manually unloaded the modules and they also unloaded fine. I rewrote the lmsensors init script so that it was manually loading the modules rather than pulling them from the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors file. I ran the script and it loaded the modules, then stopped the script and it unloaded the modules. When I went to restart it, the machine hard locked again. I am currently trying to load only the i2c-viapro, i2c-isa, i2c-it87 and it2-lm75 modules and skipping the adm1021 and eeprom modules since my machine appears to have the most issues with the adm1021 module and I don't really need the eeprom one. I have just edited my modules file to load the i2c-proc module at bootup rather than letting it load from the lmsensors init script. If anyone has any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. BTW, sensors.conf is stock and I did not add any lines to /etc/modules.conf except the alias for char-major-89 i2c-dev because the other adm1021 line should not be needed since I am not loading adm1021. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 11:50 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed > aumix and maxed out all the sliders. > > All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. > If I use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. > Sound works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when > installing 9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. > > praedor But you also said that you were having issues with APIC. Since APIC handles IRQ interrupts for a lot of devices when it is enabled, it is possible that this is causing an interrupt conflict that is preventing sound from working. In 9.1, I initially turned APIC off in the BIOS when I did my install and had numerous problems with MB ethernet, USB ports, and mb sound because of inherent problems with installing Linux with conflicting interrupts. I thought that the install had gone well because of a lack of visible errors but then nothing ever worked right. Only be enabling APIC in the BIOS and using the noapic flag in lilo was I able to get an install going that actually worked with all of my devices. You may want to try enabling APIC in BIOS, reinstalling Linux using the noapic on the lilo load line for the install disk and then seeing if your results are better. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 08:50, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed aumix > and maxed out all the sliders. > > All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. If I > use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. Sound > works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when installing > 9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. > > praedor ... 2.4.22-18mdk does sound for me on two i810 machines: i810_audio : Intel Corporation|ICH2 810 Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] i810_audio 25788 2 ac97_codec 15828 0 [i810_audio] soundcore 6340 0 [i810_audio] I had to work on it quite a bit though, switching back and forth from OSS and ALSA, the renicing stuff mentioned earlier. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "In my motorcycle mirror I think about the life I've led and how my soul's been aching all the holes where I have bled... My image spoke to me, yes to me and often said, 'You are the son of incestuous union!'" -- Nimrod's Son from Surfer Rosa and Come On Pilgrim by The Pixies Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Heh. APIC is enabled in bios because if I disable it, Mandrake 9.2, no matter what kernel I use, will not bootup. Instead, I get a blank black screen and that's all she wrote. I have tried APIC 1.1 and 1.4 versions or tables (the two options open to me in bios if I enable APIC). Regardless of this, no sound. As soon as I disable it, no bootup even if I use the "noapic" kernel parameter. If I leave APIC enabled in bios (remember, I HAVE to do this to bootup a mandrake 2.4.22 series kernel) but use the "noapic" switch. No change - still no sound. I have also tried the possible combinations of "noapic" and "apci=off" or the default 9.2 "apci=ht". Doesn't matter, no sound and if APIC is disabled in bios, no bootup. This is an MSI KT333 Ultra mobo with Athlon XP2700+, VIA 8233 sound. praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 12:15 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: > On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:41 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > > > At least with regards to sound. > > > > > > I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed > > > to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: > > > default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia > > > kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will > > > operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 > > > kernel series had no problems. [...] > > Just for the record, are you having any trouble with APIC? Is it disabled > in your BIOS setting? What's the boot params line in lilo.conf. > > Thanks - given the severity of the report, all the information is good to > know. - -- "Events are in the saddle and ride mankind." - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/u6fDaKr9sJYeTxgRAsueAJ0UWmjoQBBlSxdAB8/DRAiVXwB5dgCeK1h3 8jorpi6/fuFTwyNTB6xHqsw= =pE6k -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:41 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > > At least with regards to sound. > > > > I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed > > to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: > > default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia > > kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will > > operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 > > kernel series had no problems. > > I've been reading this thread, but with no idea what your > problem could be Praedor . I've got a VIA 8233 > snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] > [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] >(actually the sound chip is an ADI AD-1980) ...and I'm using > tom $ uname -r > 2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdk > >The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk > (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to > 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the > sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) > and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). Just for the record, are you having any trouble with APIC? Is it disabled in your BIOS setting? What's the boot params line in lilo.conf. Thanks - given the severity of the report, all the information is good to know. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed aumix and maxed out all the sliders. All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. If I use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. Sound works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when installing 9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:41 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > > At least with regards to sound. > > > > I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed > > to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: > > default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia > > kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will > > operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 > > kernel series had no problems. > > I've been reading this thread, but with no idea what your > problem could be Praedor . I've got a VIA 8233 > snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] > [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] >(actually the sound chip is an ADI AD-1980) ...and I'm using > tom $ uname -r > 2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdk > >The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk > (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to > 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the > sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) > and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). - -- "Events are in the saddle and ride mankind." - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/u59LaKr9sJYeTxgRAk5PAJ4vqFptldt1H4/pdBmIdQdjNAWkmACghl4S WBwa3XsE/P/sWGx4b3HZsWY= =ekpI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
Even more helpful hints!!! Thanks ALL. This should go into some FAQ somewhere --- Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:04 pm, Ricardo > (Tru64 User) > wrote: > > --- Rolf Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > You could recompile a smaller kernel. I > > > > > have made a boot iso, > > > burned to cd, which works as a boot cd, by using > > > isolinux, part of the > > > syslinux package. Read /usr/share/doc/sylinux-* > > > and, if you are > > > interested, I could try to recall how I made > this > > > iso. > > > > > > Rolf > > > > Hi Rolf, thnxI will read the docs, and try out > > building the ISO. If I stumble, I will ask for ur > > help...thnx much for quick response > > This is dead simple and works well. Altho > Pascal seems to > indicate it can be done as user. For me that > wouldn't work, but > as root 'mkrescue --iso' created a bootable image > named > "rescue.iso" (3.2 mb)in the directory I ran the > command from. I > burned it with 'biso rescue.iso' > (alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject speed=12 dev=0,0,0 > -dao') > tom # rpm -q --whatprovides /sbin/mkrescue > lilo-22.5.7.2-6mdk > > Besides being a boot CD for your currently > running kernel, it > also provides some rescue options when you boot from > it (similar > to booting the 1st Mandrake CD). > ... > create a Boot Disk > From: Pascal Cavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[snoyes]" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Le Dimanche 9 Novembre 2003 17:51, [snoyes] a écrit > : > > For those interested, you can make an iso image of a > boot disk if > you are > using LILO with the following command: > > /sbin/mkrescue --iso > > then just cdrecord it > ... > > -- > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, > Texas > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > At least with regards to sound. > > I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed > to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: > default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia > kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will > operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 > kernel series had no problems. I've been reading this thread, but with no idea what your problem could be Praedor . I've got a VIA 8233 snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (actually the sound chip is an ADI AD-1980) ...and I'm using tom $ uname -r 2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdk The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:04 pm, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: > --- Rolf Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could recompile a smaller kernel. I > > > have made a boot iso, > > burned to cd, which works as a boot cd, by using > > isolinux, part of the > > syslinux package. Read /usr/share/doc/sylinux-* > > and, if you are > > interested, I could try to recall how I made this > > iso. > > > > Rolf > > Hi Rolf, thnxI will read the docs, and try out > building the ISO. If I stumble, I will ask for ur > help...thnx much for quick response This is dead simple and works well. Altho Pascal seems to indicate it can be done as user. For me that wouldn't work, but as root 'mkrescue --iso' created a bootable image named "rescue.iso" (3.2 mb)in the directory I ran the command from. I burned it with 'biso rescue.iso' (alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject speed=12 dev=0,0,0 -dao') tom # rpm -q --whatprovides /sbin/mkrescue lilo-22.5.7.2-6mdk Besides being a boot CD for your currently running kernel, it also provides some rescue options when you boot from it (similar to booting the 1st Mandrake CD). ... create a Boot Disk From: Pascal Cavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[snoyes]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le Dimanche 9 Novembre 2003 17:51, [snoyes] a écrit : For those interested, you can make an iso image of a boot disk if you are using LILO with the following command: /sbin/mkrescue --iso then just cdrecord it ... -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:36, Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: > > > > Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you > > > guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, > > > and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was > > > able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. > ...> so the issue is only when you're running X and KDE... > > you're a KDE user, aren't you? > > > > in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is > > not being niced: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html > > > > kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. > > > > xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install > > xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. > > > > log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, > > then log back in and you should be fine. > > OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) > then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Reniced X and realtime artsd has caused several crashes for me -- basically it's manual monkeying with a sensitive automated process management system. Because you're seeing crashes, you have something drastically wrong. This is a relatively new laptop, right? You've probably got to mess with ACPI and APIC combinations. I know that my laptop won't work at all with ACPI turned off. > > Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg > file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. > > And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for > yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a > doorknob. and you didn't get any error messages? You should be seeing eror messages because you've launched XMMS with the artsd output plugin while artsd shouldn't be present... > > What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? > > Rob telinit 3 pidof esd pidof artsd service alsa stop service sound stop if either ends with failed, you have a problem -- pkill the process that's holding things open. service sound start service alsa start play /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Yo.wav alsaplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Yo.wav if either one hangs, we go back to suspecting hardware. If they don't make noise but successfully finish, we look at mixer settings. If one works and the other doesn't, well, Linux sound kinda sucks, just be happy something works :-) -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "Through counterintelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential troublemakers and neutralize them..." -- Wake Up by Rage Against The Machine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 09:54 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > Can anyone suggest a way of getting a 9.1 kernel to build/install/function > on a 9.2 install? You should be able to just grab the last 9.1 kernel and install it. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
--- Rolf Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You could recompile a smaller kernel. I > have made a boot iso, > burned to cd, which works as a boot cd, by using > isolinux, part of the > syslinux package. Read /usr/share/doc/sylinux-* > and, if you are > interested, I could try to recall how I made this > iso. > > Rolf Hi Rolf, thnxI will read the docs, and try out building the ISO. If I stumble, I will ask for ur help...thnx much for quick response __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At least with regards to sound. I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 kernel series had no problems. Another problem endemic to the 2.4.22 kernel set is its inability to bootup a system that has APIC disabled in bios. Before 9.2 (and 2.4.22) I disabled APIC in bios and everything worked very well. As a matter of fact, to ensure that everything worked stably and properly I HAD to disable APIC. Now, with the 2.4.22 series, I absolutely HAVE to enable APIC in bios or the system will die during early bootup, even if I use the noapic kernel option. Either "noapic" doesn't do anything, or the kernel, regardless of switch, now absolutely requires APIC to function at all. I have also tried acpi=off alone or in combination with noapic. No sound regardless. The killer is the absolute requirement for APIC to be enabled, however. If I hadn't gone the extra step of experimenting (in other words, if I were a standard likely new user) I would have had to give up on 9.2 and assume it was totally borked. My 9.0 and 9.1 installs were flawless and sound worked. SuSE 9.0 installs flawlessly (but uses a specially modified 2.4.21 kernel) and sound works. 9.2 wont install unless APIC is enabled in bios and cannot handle the previously fine via 8233 sound device. Can anyone suggest a way of getting a 9.1 kernel to build/install/function on a 9.2 install? I tried installing the SuSE 9.0 kernel source rpm but it is so oddly setup that I feared even trying to build and install it. It doesn't merely install a kernel source directory tree in /usr/src, it also adds an extra kernel/headers tree as well. I have already tried building several 2.4.21 kernels from 9.1 but they fail at various points in module building (every time a failure would occur, I'd do a make clean and restart xconfig and disable the module that caused the latest problem, if it was an unneeded module, and try again...only to run into yet another and another and another, etc, until I gave up). Honestly, at this point I have two clear options unless someone can offer a viable alternative: uninstall 9.2 and go back to 9.1 or install SuSE 9.0. praedor - -- "Events are in the saddle and ride mankind." - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/u4QYaKr9sJYeTxgRAhEzAJ4ys0VNan0dX6vSrvJXba5YTPqZygCgqNnI 2EMUPODgT0PeqWiq8KOWBVo= =Y1SZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 09:24 am, Timothy Brown wrote: > After you get it started now go to your browser and go to > https://localhost:1 make sur you have https > Right, I know how to access it manually. I was just wondering if I missed a K-menu entry to start a browser with that URL. No big deal if there isn't - I can add one or use a bookmark. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Forgive me if this has been discussed. I tried it with 3 different machines, 4 different floppies. "A Error Occurred. mkbootdisk failed" or "Unable to properly close mkbootdisk, No space left on device" My problem is that I have dualboot scenarios..with winblows.and its boot loader HAS to remain the default for some internal reasons. So linux is at /dev/hda7 Usually I create a bootdisk during istall, and use it to get back in linux, after perform a dd of the bootsector. Is this a known problem? _Thanks Richard The kernel has got too big to fit on a floppy. There is some attention being paid to this on cooker but I don't see that changing in the near future. You could recompile a smaller kernel. I have made a boot iso, burned to cd, which works as a boot cd, by using isolinux, part of the syslinux package. Read /usr/share/doc/sylinux-* and, if you are interested, I could try to recall how I made this iso. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: > Forgive me if this has been discussed. > I tried it with 3 different machines, 4 different > floppies. > "A Error Occurred. mkbootdisk failed" or > "Unable to properly close mkbootdisk, No space left on > device" > My problem is that I have dualboot scenarios..with > winblows.and its boot loader HAS to remain the > default for some internal reasons. So linux is at > /dev/hda7 > Usually I create a bootdisk during istall, and use it > to get back in linux, after perform a dd of the > bootsector. Is this a known problem? http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5188 It seems you might be able to do it by compiling a custom kernel lacking unwanted features. Otherwise, you'll need to do as the last comment in the bug indicates. -- "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble." 1 Peter 5:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
After you get it started now go to your browser and go to https://localhost:1 make sur you have https Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:13 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. I'm going to have to admit that I agree with Jack here. I stopped using Linuxconf around the time of RH5.2 for this very reason. It was a nice training tool. In that it taught me a lot about repairs but hardly a learning system I would ever recommend. Webmin I've been a fan of since around the time of MDK 7.0 (I started my switch from RH to MDK around the time of MDK 6.x) and the Drake Family of tools have become a very real and very reliable set of tools. The most important thing is that they actually modify the real set of config files not a psuedo set. (ala e-smith, or some of the firewall distro's) Nor like some of the tools in another distro that try to think for me. They follow the philosophy of C. Yes you can mess something up. But in doing so, you can also use the tools to undo it as well. James Ok, I'll check it out. But just a quick question - is there an entry for Webmin on any of the popup menus? I've figured out how to start Webmin, but only by going to the Webmin web site. There doesn't seem to be much documentation included in the Mandrake distribution. I checked under Configuration, and some other places, but there's no entry like there is for the CUPS www admin tool. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
Forgive me if this has been discussed. I tried it with 3 different machines, 4 different floppies. "A Error Occurred. mkbootdisk failed" or "Unable to properly close mkbootdisk, No space left on device" My problem is that I have dualboot scenarios..with winblows.and its boot loader HAS to remain the default for some internal reasons. So linux is at /dev/hda7 Usually I create a bootdisk during istall, and use it to get back in linux, after perform a dd of the bootsector. Is this a known problem? _Thanks Richard __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:13 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: > > If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like > > DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better > > at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at > > things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. > > I'm going to have to admit that I agree with Jack here. I stopped using > Linuxconf around the time of RH5.2 for this very reason. It was a nice > training tool. In that it taught me a lot about repairs but hardly a > learning system I would ever recommend. > > Webmin I've been a fan of since around the time of MDK 7.0 (I started > my switch from RH to MDK around the time of MDK 6.x) and the Drake > Family of tools have become a very real and very reliable set of tools. > > The most important thing is that they actually modify the real set of > config files not a psuedo set. (ala e-smith, or some of the firewall > distro's) Nor like some of the tools in another distro that try to think > for me. They follow the philosophy of C. Yes you can mess something > up. But in doing so, you can also use the tools to undo it as well. > > James Ok, I'll check it out. But just a quick question - is there an entry for Webmin on any of the popup menus? I've figured out how to start Webmin, but only by going to the Webmin web site. There doesn't seem to be much documentation included in the Mandrake distribution. I checked under Configuration, and some other places, but there's no entry like there is for the CUPS www admin tool. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
stdio.h should be included with every c/c++ compiler. It is a basic include file for the c language Tim James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:23, Jarmo wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 16:01, Jarmo wrote: The point why I started to look,was that I can't get lm-sensors 2.8.0 compiled...Yes I know there is rpm...But I have so exotic mb... Asrock K7S8X with sis cipset,exept sensors are winbonds... No worry anymore.Downloaded lm-sensors 2.8.1 as well as i2c-2.8.1 and got them working... Again sorry for bothering... Jarmo No bother... btw I've got the stdio.h from package gcc-3.2.2 hmmm curiouser and curiouser. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Gnomemeeting and Pixelview PlayTV Pak camera
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 07:50 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > I have Pixelview PlayTV Pak TV tuner card which comes with camera connected > to tuner card. I have to use windows for netmeeting or yahoo video > conferencing because of this camera. has anybody used this camera in linux > for > gnomemeeting. i have mdk 9.1 in A7N8X deluxe MB and athlon 2400+ and 256 MB > ram. might help to know the exact id of the card, so a 'lspci' might help. looks like most of their cards are bttv878 chipsets, so install xawtv, and run harddrake what sort of connection does the cam have to the the pci card? composite? I ain't sure, but the cam model might not make any diff, just getting the card recognized might do the whole works.., once v4l sees and uses that card, you should be good to go.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 00:22, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:36, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: > > > > > > Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you > > > > guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, > > > > and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was > > > > able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. > > > > > > > > But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks > > > > up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole > > > > freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to > > > > play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator > > > > plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the > > > > sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. > > > > Same deal. DOA. > > > > > > > > I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I > > > > appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show > > > > up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal > > > > Audio Controller. > > > > > > > > Where do I go from here? > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > you're a KDE user, aren't you? > > > > > > in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is > > > not being niced: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html > > > > > > kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. > > > > > > xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install > > > xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. > > > > > > log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, > > > then log back in and you should be fine. > > > > OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) > > then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. > > > > Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg > > file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. > > > > And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for > > yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a > > doorknob. > > > > What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? > > > > Rob > > Ok to divide the world in half. If you are at runlevel 3 (no dm or WM) > and run mpg123 does it look up there as well? If you run gpm you can > test the mouse as well. If it does lock up then we know it's not just a > conflict between the WM and the sound system. If it doesn't that > changes the avenue of attack. > > James K may be barking up the wrong tree here. But a thread on pclinuxonline and in the errata for 9.2 yeilds this. Error scenario: When enabling ACPI in the kernel (by removing acpi=ht from the kernel boot options), the system freezes very early Why: There seems to be a bad interaction with Local APIC, which is enabled by default in the kernel. This can be seen by adding vga=0 to try to see the last kernel message before it locks solid (a message like "Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found"). This seems to happen with certain HP laptops. Other reports also indicate that if you remove AC power from a laptop (ie. Dell latitude C640; possibly others) it will freeze requiring a power off. (re: Bugzilla #5821) Solution: Add "nolapic" to the kernel boot options to resolve both issues. the pclinuxonline thread is here. http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&topic=2382&forum=19 James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:36, Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: > > > > Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you > > > guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, > > > and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was > > > able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. > > > > > > But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks > > > up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole > > > freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to > > > play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator > > > plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the > > > sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. > > > Same deal. DOA. > > > > > > I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I > > > appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show > > > up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal > > > Audio Controller. > > > > > > Where do I go from here? > > > > > > Rob > > > > you're a KDE user, aren't you? > > > > in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is > > not being niced: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html > > > > kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. > > > > xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install > > xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. > > > > log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, > > then log back in and you should be fine. > > OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) > then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. > > Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg > file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. > > And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for > yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a > doorknob. > > What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? > > Rob Ok to divide the world in half. If you are at runlevel 3 (no dm or WM) and run mpg123 does it look up there as well? If you run gpm you can test the mouse as well. If it does lock up then we know it's not just a conflict between the WM and the sound system. If it doesn't that changes the avenue of attack. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Clean up old logs (more specific)
> > When I tried doing the line you defined above, I get this output: > > find: paths must precede expression > Usage: find [path...] [expression] > rm: too few arguments > Try `rm --help' for more information. > > So I did it this way: > > find /var/log -type f -mtime 5 | xargs rm > > And it works. The only thing that catches my attention is that in the > 'find' man page, '-mtime' says: > > -mtime n > File's data was last modified n*24 hours ago. > > This would seem to me to mean a static multiplyer. In other words, > '-mtime 30' would be any logs created exactly 30 days ago - not 31, not > 29. > > How would you state 'anything over 30 days'? And why did you create the > syntax the way you did above; with the '.' after 'find' and the order of > commands? > > Thanks! > find /var/log -type f -mtime +30 will find any file in the /var/log directory that is more than 30 days old. Find expects one argument which is a path to a directory to start the search (which can be /var/log or . if your cwd is /var/log), then there are tons of possible arguments. The path must be given first, but the arguments can usually be given in any order (unless you get fancy). John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 16:00, Jack Coates wrote: > On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: > > On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:29 am, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: > > > Now I'll have to beat the "Sparenberg" drum - this clearly deserves a bug > > > report. I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and > > > don't have 9.2 installed on any systems. > > > > A bug report probably will get ignored because I don't think there is anybody > > really maintaining this package for Mandrake since it was moved to contrib, > > that is, unless you'd like to volunteer. > > > > Contrib packages are packaged by volunteers and contributed. They are not > > maintained by MandrakeSoft, so a bug report is useless unless there is > > somebody that is going to fix linuxconf to work with Mandrake. > > I'd also like to point out that it was dropped for a good reason, which > is that it is Evil Incarnate(TM). The problem with Linuxconf is that it > maintains its own config and pushes those to the actual config when it > gets around to it. This means you can make changes to the real config > files which will be ignored and clobbered by the next Linuxconf run. > > If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like > DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better > at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at > things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. I'm going to have to admit that I agree with Jack here. I stopped using Linuxconf around the time of RH5.2 for this very reason. It was a nice training tool. In that it taught me a lot about repairs but hardly a learning system I would ever recommend. Webmin I've been a fan of since around the time of MDK 7.0 (I started my switch from RH to MDK around the time of MDK 6.x) and the Drake Family of tools have become a very real and very reliable set of tools. The most important thing is that they actually modify the real set of config files not a psuedo set. (ala e-smith, or some of the firewall distro's) Nor like some of the tools in another distro that try to think for me. They follow the philosophy of C. Yes you can mess something up. But in doing so, you can also use the tools to undo it as well. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: > > Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you > > guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, > > and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was > > able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. > > > > But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks > > up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole > > freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to > > play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator > > plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the > > sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. > > Same deal. DOA. > > > > I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I > > appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show > > up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal > > Audio Controller. > > > > Where do I go from here? > > > > Rob > > you're a KDE user, aren't you? > > in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is > not being niced: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html > > kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. > > xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install > xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. > > log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, > then log back in and you should be fine. OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a doorknob. What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
