Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a doorknob. What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 16:00, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:29 am, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: Now I'll have to beat the Sparenberg drum - this clearly deserves a bug report. I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and don't have 9.2 installed on any systems. A bug report probably will get ignored because I don't think there is anybody really maintaining this package for Mandrake since it was moved to contrib, that is, unless you'd like to volunteer. Contrib packages are packaged by volunteers and contributed. They are not maintained by MandrakeSoft, so a bug report is useless unless there is somebody that is going to fix linuxconf to work with Mandrake. I'd also like to point out that it was dropped for a good reason, which is that it is Evil Incarnate(TM). The problem with Linuxconf is that it maintains its own config and pushes those to the actual config when it gets around to it. This means you can make changes to the real config files which will be ignored and clobbered by the next Linuxconf run. If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. I'm going to have to admit that I agree with Jack here. I stopped using Linuxconf around the time of RH5.2 for this very reason. It was a nice training tool. In that it taught me a lot about repairs but hardly a learning system I would ever recommend. Webmin I've been a fan of since around the time of MDK 7.0 (I started my switch from RH to MDK around the time of MDK 6.x) and the Drake Family of tools have become a very real and very reliable set of tools. The most important thing is that they actually modify the real set of config files not a psuedo set. (ala e-smith, or some of the firewall distro's) Nor like some of the tools in another distro that try to think for me. They follow the philosophy of C. Yes you can mess something up. But in doing so, you can also use the tools to undo it as well. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Clean up old logs (more specific)
When I tried doing the line you defined above, I get this output: find: paths must precede expression Usage: find [path...] [expression] rm: too few arguments Try `rm --help' for more information. So I did it this way: find /var/log -type f -mtime 5 | xargs rm And it works. The only thing that catches my attention is that in the 'find' man page, '-mtime' says: -mtime n File's data was last modified n*24 hours ago. This would seem to me to mean a static multiplyer. In other words, '-mtime 30' would be any logs created exactly 30 days ago - not 31, not 29. How would you state 'anything over 30 days'? And why did you create the syntax the way you did above; with the '.' after 'find' and the order of commands? Thanks! find /var/log -type f -mtime +30 will find any file in the /var/log directory that is more than 30 days old. Find expects one argument which is a path to a directory to start the search (which can be /var/log or . if your cwd is /var/log), then there are tons of possible arguments. The path must be given first, but the arguments can usually be given in any order (unless you get fancy). John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:36, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a doorknob. What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? Rob Ok to divide the world in half. If you are at runlevel 3 (no dm or WM) and run mpg123 does it look up there as well? If you run gpm you can test the mouse as well. If it does lock up then we know it's not just a conflict between the WM and the sound system. If it doesn't that changes the avenue of attack. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 00:22, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:36, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a doorknob. What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? Rob Ok to divide the world in half. If you are at runlevel 3 (no dm or WM) and run mpg123 does it look up there as well? If you run gpm you can test the mouse as well. If it does lock up then we know it's not just a conflict between the WM and the sound system. If it doesn't that changes the avenue of attack. James K may be barking up the wrong tree here. But a thread on pclinuxonline and in the errata for 9.2 yeilds this. quote Error scenario: When enabling ACPI in the kernel (by removing acpi=ht from the kernel boot options), the system freezes very early Why: There seems to be a bad interaction with Local APIC, which is enabled by default in the kernel. This can be seen by adding vga=0 to try to see the last kernel message before it locks solid (a message like Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found). This seems to happen with certain HP laptops. Other reports also indicate that if you remove AC power from a laptop (ie. Dell latitude C640; possibly others) it will freeze requiring a power off. (re: Bugzilla #5821) Solution: Add nolapic to the kernel boot options to resolve both issues. /quote the pclinuxonline thread is here. http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Forumsfile=viewtopictopic=2382forum=19 James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Gnomemeeting and Pixelview PlayTV Pak camera
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 07:50 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have Pixelview PlayTV Pak TV tuner card which comes with camera connected to tuner card. I have to use windows for netmeeting or yahoo video conferencing because of this camera. has anybody used this camera in linux for gnomemeeting. i have mdk 9.1 in A7N8X deluxe MB and athlon 2400+ and 256 MB ram. might help to know the exact id of the card, so a 'lspci' might help. looks like most of their cards are bttv878 chipsets, so install xawtv, and run harddrake what sort of connection does the cam have to the the pci card? composite? I ain't sure, but the cam model might not make any diff, just getting the card recognized might do the whole works.., once v4l sees and uses that card, you should be good to go.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
stdio.h should be included with every c/c++ compiler. It is a basic include file for the c language Tim James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:23, Jarmo wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 16:01, Jarmo wrote: The point why I started to look,was that I can't get lm-sensors 2.8.0 compiled...Yes I know there is rpm...But I have so exotic mb... Asrock K7S8X with sis cipset,exept sensors are winbonds... No worry anymore.Downloaded lm-sensors 2.8.1 as well as i2c-2.8.1 and got them working... Again sorry for bothering... Jarmo No bother... btw I've got the stdio.h from package gcc-3.2.2 hmmm curiouser and curiouser. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:13 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. I'm going to have to admit that I agree with Jack here. I stopped using Linuxconf around the time of RH5.2 for this very reason. It was a nice training tool. In that it taught me a lot about repairs but hardly a learning system I would ever recommend. Webmin I've been a fan of since around the time of MDK 7.0 (I started my switch from RH to MDK around the time of MDK 6.x) and the Drake Family of tools have become a very real and very reliable set of tools. The most important thing is that they actually modify the real set of config files not a psuedo set. (ala e-smith, or some of the firewall distro's) Nor like some of the tools in another distro that try to think for me. They follow the philosophy of C. Yes you can mess something up. But in doing so, you can also use the tools to undo it as well. James Ok, I'll check it out. But just a quick question - is there an entry for Webmin on any of the popup menus? I've figured out how to start Webmin, but only by going to the Webmin web site. There doesn't seem to be much documentation included in the Mandrake distribution. I checked under Configuration, and some other places, but there's no entry like there is for the CUPS www admin tool. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
Forgive me if this has been discussed. I tried it with 3 different machines, 4 different floppies. A Error Occurred. mkbootdisk failed or Unable to properly close mkbootdisk, No space left on device My problem is that I have dualboot scenarios..with winblows.and its boot loader HAS to remain the default for some internal reasons. So linux is at /dev/hda7 Usually I create a bootdisk during istall, and use it to get back in linux, after perform a dd of the bootsector. Is this a known problem? _Thanks Richard __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
After you get it started now go to your browser and go to https://localhost:1 make sur you have https Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:13 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. I'm going to have to admit that I agree with Jack here. I stopped using Linuxconf around the time of RH5.2 for this very reason. It was a nice training tool. In that it taught me a lot about repairs but hardly a learning system I would ever recommend. Webmin I've been a fan of since around the time of MDK 7.0 (I started my switch from RH to MDK around the time of MDK 6.x) and the Drake Family of tools have become a very real and very reliable set of tools. The most important thing is that they actually modify the real set of config files not a psuedo set. (ala e-smith, or some of the firewall distro's) Nor like some of the tools in another distro that try to think for me. They follow the philosophy of C. Yes you can mess something up. But in doing so, you can also use the tools to undo it as well. James Ok, I'll check it out. But just a quick question - is there an entry for Webmin on any of the popup menus? I've figured out how to start Webmin, but only by going to the Webmin web site. There doesn't seem to be much documentation included in the Mandrake distribution. I checked under Configuration, and some other places, but there's no entry like there is for the CUPS www admin tool. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Forgive me if this has been discussed. I tried it with 3 different machines, 4 different floppies. A Error Occurred. mkbootdisk failed or Unable to properly close mkbootdisk, No space left on device My problem is that I have dualboot scenarios..with winblows.and its boot loader HAS to remain the default for some internal reasons. So linux is at /dev/hda7 Usually I create a bootdisk during istall, and use it to get back in linux, after perform a dd of the bootsector. Is this a known problem? http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5188 It seems you might be able to do it by compiling a custom kernel lacking unwanted features. Otherwise, you'll need to do as the last comment in the bug indicates. -- God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble. 1 Peter 5:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Forgive me if this has been discussed. I tried it with 3 different machines, 4 different floppies. A Error Occurred. mkbootdisk failed or Unable to properly close mkbootdisk, No space left on device My problem is that I have dualboot scenarios..with winblows.and its boot loader HAS to remain the default for some internal reasons. So linux is at /dev/hda7 Usually I create a bootdisk during istall, and use it to get back in linux, after perform a dd of the bootsector. Is this a known problem? _Thanks Richard The kernel has got too big to fit on a floppy. There is some attention being paid to this on cooker but I don't see that changing in the near future. You could recompile a smaller kernel. I have made a boot iso, burned to cd, which works as a boot cd, by using isolinux, part of the syslinux package. Read /usr/share/doc/sylinux-* and, if you are interested, I could try to recall how I made this iso. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 09:24 am, Timothy Brown wrote: After you get it started now go to your browser and go to https://localhost:1 make sur you have https Right, I know how to access it manually. I was just wondering if I missed a K-menu entry to start a browser with that URL. No big deal if there isn't - I can add one or use a bookmark. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At least with regards to sound. I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 kernel series had no problems. Another problem endemic to the 2.4.22 kernel set is its inability to bootup a system that has APIC disabled in bios. Before 9.2 (and 2.4.22) I disabled APIC in bios and everything worked very well. As a matter of fact, to ensure that everything worked stably and properly I HAD to disable APIC. Now, with the 2.4.22 series, I absolutely HAVE to enable APIC in bios or the system will die during early bootup, even if I use the noapic kernel option. Either noapic doesn't do anything, or the kernel, regardless of switch, now absolutely requires APIC to function at all. I have also tried acpi=off alone or in combination with noapic. No sound regardless. The killer is the absolute requirement for APIC to be enabled, however. If I hadn't gone the extra step of experimenting (in other words, if I were a standard likely new user) I would have had to give up on 9.2 and assume it was totally borked. My 9.0 and 9.1 installs were flawless and sound worked. SuSE 9.0 installs flawlessly (but uses a specially modified 2.4.21 kernel) and sound works. 9.2 wont install unless APIC is enabled in bios and cannot handle the previously fine via 8233 sound device. Can anyone suggest a way of getting a 9.1 kernel to build/install/function on a 9.2 install? I tried installing the SuSE 9.0 kernel source rpm but it is so oddly setup that I feared even trying to build and install it. It doesn't merely install a kernel source directory tree in /usr/src, it also adds an extra kernel/headers tree as well. I have already tried building several 2.4.21 kernels from 9.1 but they fail at various points in module building (every time a failure would occur, I'd do a make clean and restart xconfig and disable the module that caused the latest problem, if it was an unneeded module, and try again...only to run into yet another and another and another, etc, until I gave up). Honestly, at this point I have two clear options unless someone can offer a viable alternative: uninstall 9.2 and go back to 9.1 or install SuSE 9.0. praedor - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/u4QYaKr9sJYeTxgRAhEzAJ4ys0VNan0dX6vSrvJXba5YTPqZygCgqNnI 2EMUPODgT0PeqWiq8KOWBVo= =Y1SZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
--- Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could recompile a smaller kernel. I have made a boot iso, burned to cd, which works as a boot cd, by using isolinux, part of the syslinux package. Read /usr/share/doc/sylinux-* and, if you are interested, I could try to recall how I made this iso. Rolf Hi Rolf, thnxI will read the docs, and try out building the ISO. If I stumble, I will ask for ur help...thnx much for quick response __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 09:54 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Can anyone suggest a way of getting a 9.1 kernel to build/install/function on a 9.2 install? You should be able to just grab the last 9.1 kernel and install it. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:36, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. ... so the issue is only when you're running X and KDE... you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Reniced X and realtime artsd has caused several crashes for me -- basically it's manual monkeying with a sensitive automated process management system. Because you're seeing crashes, you have something drastically wrong. This is a relatively new laptop, right? You've probably got to mess with ACPI and APIC combinations. I know that my laptop won't work at all with ACPI turned off. Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a doorknob. and you didn't get any error messages? You should be seeing eror messages because you've launched XMMS with the artsd output plugin while artsd shouldn't be present... What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? Rob telinit 3 pidof esd pidof artsd service alsa stop service sound stop if either ends with failed, you have a problem -- pkill the process that's holding things open. service sound start service alsa start play /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Yo.wav alsaplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Yo.wav if either one hangs, we go back to suspecting hardware. If they don't make noise but successfully finish, we look at mixer settings. If one works and the other doesn't, well, Linux sound kinda sucks, just be happy something works :-) -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Through counterintelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential troublemakers and neutralize them... -- Wake Up by Rage Against The Machine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:04 pm, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: --- Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could recompile a smaller kernel. I have made a boot iso, burned to cd, which works as a boot cd, by using isolinux, part of the syslinux package. Read /usr/share/doc/sylinux-* and, if you are interested, I could try to recall how I made this iso. Rolf Hi Rolf, thnxI will read the docs, and try out building the ISO. If I stumble, I will ask for ur help...thnx much for quick response This is dead simple and works well. Altho Pascal seems to indicate it can be done as user. For me that wouldn't work, but as root 'mkrescue --iso' created a bootable image named rescue.iso (3.2 mb)in the directory I ran the command from. I burned it with 'biso rescue.iso' (alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject speed=12 dev=0,0,0 -dao') tom # rpm -q --whatprovides /sbin/mkrescue lilo-22.5.7.2-6mdk Besides being a boot CD for your currently running kernel, it also provides some rescue options when you boot from it (similar to booting the 1st Mandrake CD). ... create a Boot Disk From: Pascal Cavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [snoyes] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le Dimanche 9 Novembre 2003 17:51, [snoyes] a écrit : For those interested, you can make an iso image of a boot disk if you are using LILO with the following command: /sbin/mkrescue --iso then just cdrecord it ... -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: At least with regards to sound. I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 kernel series had no problems. I've been reading this thread, but with no idea what your problem could be Praedor . I've got a VIA 8233 snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (actually the sound chip is an ADI AD-1980) ...and I'm using tom $ uname -r 2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdk The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
Even more helpful hints!!! Thanks ALL. This should go into some FAQ somewhere --- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:04 pm, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: --- Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could recompile a smaller kernel. I have made a boot iso, burned to cd, which works as a boot cd, by using isolinux, part of the syslinux package. Read /usr/share/doc/sylinux-* and, if you are interested, I could try to recall how I made this iso. Rolf Hi Rolf, thnxI will read the docs, and try out building the ISO. If I stumble, I will ask for ur help...thnx much for quick response This is dead simple and works well. Altho Pascal seems to indicate it can be done as user. For me that wouldn't work, but as root 'mkrescue --iso' created a bootable image named rescue.iso (3.2 mb)in the directory I ran the command from. I burned it with 'biso rescue.iso' (alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject speed=12 dev=0,0,0 -dao') tom # rpm -q --whatprovides /sbin/mkrescue lilo-22.5.7.2-6mdk Besides being a boot CD for your currently running kernel, it also provides some rescue options when you boot from it (similar to booting the 1st Mandrake CD). ... create a Boot Disk From: Pascal Cavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [snoyes] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le Dimanche 9 Novembre 2003 17:51, [snoyes] a écrit : For those interested, you can make an iso image of a boot disk if you are using LILO with the following command: /sbin/mkrescue --iso then just cdrecord it ... -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed aumix and maxed out all the sliders. All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. If I use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. Sound works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when installing 9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:41 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: At least with regards to sound. I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 kernel series had no problems. I've been reading this thread, but with no idea what your problem could be Praedor . I've got a VIA 8233 snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (actually the sound chip is an ADI AD-1980) ...and I'm using tom $ uname -r 2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdk The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/u59LaKr9sJYeTxgRAk5PAJ4vqFptldt1H4/pdBmIdQdjNAWkmACghl4S WBwa3XsE/P/sWGx4b3HZsWY= =ekpI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:41 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: At least with regards to sound. I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 kernel series had no problems. I've been reading this thread, but with no idea what your problem could be Praedor . I've got a VIA 8233 snd-via82xx : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (actually the sound chip is an ADI AD-1980) ...and I'm using tom $ uname -r 2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdk The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). Just for the record, are you having any trouble with APIC? Is it disabled in your BIOS setting? What's the boot params line in lilo.conf. Thanks - given the severity of the report, all the information is good to know. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Heh. APIC is enabled in bios because if I disable it, Mandrake 9.2, no matter what kernel I use, will not bootup. Instead, I get a blank black screen and that's all she wrote. I have tried APIC 1.1 and 1.4 versions or tables (the two options open to me in bios if I enable APIC). Regardless of this, no sound. As soon as I disable it, no bootup even if I use the noapic kernel parameter. If I leave APIC enabled in bios (remember, I HAVE to do this to bootup a mandrake 2.4.22 series kernel) but use the noapic switch. No change - still no sound. I have also tried the possible combinations of noapic and apci=off or the default 9.2 apci=ht. Doesn't matter, no sound and if APIC is disabled in bios, no bootup. This is an MSI KT333 Ultra mobo with Athlon XP2700+, VIA 8233 sound. praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 12:15 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:41 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: At least with regards to sound. I must now give up on any 9.2 stock kernels. I have now failed to get my fully functional sound system to work in 9.2 using: default kernel 2.4.22-10mdk, 2.4.22-21mdk, 2.4.22 multimedia kernel, the 9.2 2.4.22 tmb kernel. Not a one of them will operate my VIA 8233 sound device while 9.1 and the 2.4.21 kernel series had no problems. [...] Just for the record, are you having any trouble with APIC? Is it disabled in your BIOS setting? What's the boot params line in lilo.conf. Thanks - given the severity of the report, all the information is good to know. - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/u6fDaKr9sJYeTxgRAsueAJ0UWmjoQBBlSxdAB8/DRAiVXwB5dgCeK1h3 8jorpi6/fuFTwyNTB6xHqsw= =pE6k -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 08:50, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed aumix and maxed out all the sliders. All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. If I use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. Sound works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when installing 9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. praedor ... 2.4.22-18mdk does sound for me on two i810 machines: i810_audio : Intel Corporation|ICH2 810 Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] i810_audio 25788 2 ac97_codec 15828 0 [i810_audio] soundcore 6340 0 [i810_audio] I had to work on it quite a bit though, switching back and forth from OSS and ALSA, the renicing stuff mentioned earlier. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... In my motorcycle mirror I think about the life I've led and how my soul's been aching all the holes where I have bled... My image spoke to me, yes to me and often said, 'You are the son of incestuous union!' -- Nimrod's Son from Surfer Rosa and Come On Pilgrim by The Pixies Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 11:50 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed aumix and maxed out all the sliders. All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. If I use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. Sound works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when installing 9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. praedor But you also said that you were having issues with APIC. Since APIC handles IRQ interrupts for a lot of devices when it is enabled, it is possible that this is causing an interrupt conflict that is preventing sound from working. In 9.1, I initially turned APIC off in the BIOS when I did my install and had numerous problems with MB ethernet, USB ports, and mb sound because of inherent problems with installing Linux with conflicting interrupts. I thought that the install had gone well because of a lack of visible errors but then nothing ever worked right. Only be enabling APIC in the BIOS and using the noapic flag in lilo was I able to get an install going that actually worked with all of my devices. You may want to try enabling APIC in BIOS, reinstalling Linux using the noapic on the lilo load line for the install disk and then seeing if your results are better. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] lm sensors
I have recently started trying to install lm sensors on my computer which has a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra Platinum motherboard. I have had very mixed results with the sensors including some very hard to diagnose hard locks on the machine when I attempt to load the sensor modules. Does anyone here have any experience working with lmsensors and want to take a crack at helping me figure out the problem. Scenario, I installed lmsensors by RPM, ran sensors-detect and let it create the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors configuration file. When I restarted the computer, the lmsensors init script kicked off, showed loading modules and then nothing, hard lock. I power cycled the machine, booted into failsafe mode, disabled lmsensors init script and went back into Linux. I manually tried to load lmsensors init script and it hard locked again. I rebooted, went back and tried to manually load the modules that are loading from the script and they loaded fine. I then manually unloaded the modules and they also unloaded fine. I rewrote the lmsensors init script so that it was manually loading the modules rather than pulling them from the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors file. I ran the script and it loaded the modules, then stopped the script and it unloaded the modules. When I went to restart it, the machine hard locked again. I am currently trying to load only the i2c-viapro, i2c-isa, i2c-it87 and it2-lm75 modules and skipping the adm1021 and eeprom modules since my machine appears to have the most issues with the adm1021 module and I don't really need the eeprom one. I have just edited my modules file to load the i2c-proc module at bootup rather than letting it load from the lmsensors init script. If anyone has any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. BTW, sensors.conf is stock and I did not add any lines to /etc/modules.conf except the alias for char-major-89 i2c-dev because the other adm1021 line should not be needed since I am not loading adm1021. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi woes
At 02:41 AM 11/19/2003 +, you wrote: It is the tree on the mirror that is broken. We will have to wait until it is fixed. It is the file 'list' in the contrib folder that is out of date. The list includes the old kernel packages that were replaced. I do not know how urpmi uses the list file. It is clearly not essential since not all sources have one. When it is eventually fixed do a urpmi.update -a to bring your database in line with the mirror. You should also be updating the database for your updates source frequently. I automate my updates in a cron job with this :- urpmi.update updates urpmi --update --auto --auto-select derek Thanks. I appreciate the input. One last question regarding sources for urpmi. I've been playing around with the commands to add media and remove media, just to get a feel for things. The only question I have now, is that when I do a search for samba, it only lists samba3. From what im gathering, it is searching the 'contrib' tree and not the 'main' tree. Is there a way to get urpmi to search both trees? Then, if I specifically want to look for samba3, I could type: urpmq -i samb3 or something similar? I appreciate it. Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi woes
On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 5:41 pm, Jason Williams wrote: SNIP One last question regarding sources for urpmi. I've been playing around with the commands to add media and remove media, just to get a feel for things. The only question I have now, is that when I do a search for samba, it only lists samba3. From what im gathering, it is searching the 'contrib' tree and not the 'main' tree. Is there a way to get urpmi to search both trees? Then, if I specifically want to look for samba3, I could type: urpmq -i samb3 or something similar? I appreciate it. Jason urpmq will search all available media unless you force it to use a specific media with --media or restrict it to update media with --update It may be your 'main' source is not configured properly or maybe you are just being misled by the way urpmq will return a limited list if there is a close match. Compare for example what is returned if you do :- urpmq samba urpmq samb urpmq --fuzzy samba derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi woes
At 06:20 PM 11/19/2003 +, you wrote: urpmq will search all available media unless you force it to use a specific media with --media or restrict it to update media with --update It may be your 'main' source is not configured properly or maybe you are just being misled by the way urpmq will return a limited list if there is a close match. Compare for example what is returned if you do :- urpmq samba urpmq samb urpmq --fuzzy samba derek Ok..not sure what the problem was, but I did the following and it appears to be working now. I removed all the urpmi media and then re-added it. I then updated all my media, but I got the following error. $ urpmi.update -a retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of updates... ...retrieving done examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz] computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of contrib... computing md5sum of retrieved source hdlist (or synthesis) ...retrieving failed: md5sum mismatch retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium contrib examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz] Now, I see updates and contrib but I dont see main. It also appears that contrib failed as well. however, when I search for samba now, I get all the releases, 2.2.8a to 3.0.0. Any ideas on what happened with the update? Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:15 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: The sound works just fine. I did have to install aumix-2.8-6mdk (it wasn't installed by default) and move all it's sliders to 100%, then do the same in kmix. I'm now running 10.0, but the sound worked with a 9.2 fresh install (after I installed aumix) and 9.2's default kernel (2.4.22-10). Just for the record, are you having any trouble with APIC? Is it disabled in your BIOS setting? No and no. What's the boot params line in lilo.conf. Thanks - given the severity of the report, all the information is good to know. Asus A7V600 (KT600, VIA 8237 chipset). The sound chip on the motherboard is from Analog Devices, Inc., AD-1980, AC97 codec, and Mandrake assigns the snd-via82xx alsa driver to it. This works very well for everything but aRts, which is sometimes a little 'scratchy' for system notification sounds (which I don't use anyhow). append= mem=nopentium devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=ht I have a Asus GeF4, but use the XFree86 'nv' driver, so I don't really need 'mem=nopentium' in the append. Chas A Edwards just finally convinced me it can't hurt ;) I don't really need to disable ACPI, but since I don't use it, and Mandrake always adds acpi=ht, I leave it in too. Same append I've used for a long time, many kernels. I'll probly try 2.4.23-1mdk that is on the mirrors today. FWIW, the onboard NIC is a 3C-940, and I read so many bad reports, problems with the drivers that are used for it (3c2000, sk98lin) I just disabled it in bios an use an old D-Link NIC I had (8139too). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
From: Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I rewrote the lmsensors init script so that it was manually loading the modules rather than pulling them from the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors file. I ran the script and it loaded the modules, then stopped the script and it unloaded the modules. When I went to restart it, the machine hard locked again. I am currently trying to load only the i2c-viapro, i2c-isa, i2c-it87 and it2-lm75 modules and skipping the adm1021 and eeprom modules since my machine appears to have the most issues with the adm1021 module and I don't really need the eeprom one. in order to solve wich one kills your system, you should use the modprobe command and try to load one module at a time until it hangs... -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed aumix and maxed out all the sliders. All I can say is that when I use 2.4.21 kernels, sound works flawlessly. If I use anything in the 2.4.22 list, no sound. Sound works in windoze. Sound works for SuSE 9.0, mandrake 9.1, and 9.0. Nothing changes when installing 9.2 at all except that sound magically quits working. are you using the latest bios? would you mind sending me the output of the following: # lspcidrake -v # cat /var/log/dmesg # dmidecode (to get the dmidecode program, youhave to install lm_sensors package, but you may remove it after if you want...) I'll take a look if we need a workaround for the msi board and the apic/acpi stuff..., and if so I'll add it to my next kernel build that will be out by the end of this week... -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'll send the information you request later today. Unfortunately I am at work and thus not able to access my desktop system. Not the same thing but on a related note, I did run through the troubleshooting process outlined by harddrake (ie, lspci -v, etc) and nothing untoward appeared. Perhaps you will see something more subtle when I can present it. As for bios version...I do not recall when I updated the bios last. I'll check that as well. Thanks, praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:20 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your sound system is virtually identical to mine. I have also installed [...] are you using the latest bios? would you mind sending me the output of the following: # lspcidrake -v # cat /var/log/dmesg # dmidecode - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/u8U4aKr9sJYeTxgRAtIaAKCEjvTsV/POahcDq/bLq6S3cUOx8gCgmpNJ YGAQqbwu3a4IUEF2vAAHF+k= =hTcL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 12:36 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: I have recently started trying to install lm sensors on my computer which has a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra Platinum motherboard. I have had very mixed results with the sensors including some very hard to diagnose hard locks on the machine when I attempt to load the sensor modules. Does anyone here have any experience working with lmsensors and want to take a crack at helping me figure out the problem. I have a Soyo KT400 DUB and I have got sensors running without trouble. I actually have the lm90 working by installing the version from cvs. It reads the diode off the processor and is a much more accurate temp. Scenario, I installed lmsensors by RPM, ran sensors-detect and let it create the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors configuration file. When I restarted the computer, the lmsensors init script kicked off, showed loading modules and then nothing, hard lock. I power cycled the machine, booted into failsafe mode, disabled lmsensors init script and went back into Linux. I manually tried to load lmsensors init script and it hard locked again. I rebooted, went back and tried to manually load the modules that are loading from the script and they loaded fine. I then manually unloaded the modules and they also unloaded fine. I only load the it87. The lm75 driver may be causing your problem, there isn;t one on that board. Also, on the Soyo, I only got accurate readings by specifying a socket type when modprobing the driver. the differnet types are in the docs, but I figured out the Soyo is type 38. The voltages are a little messy too. This can be fixed by making a few changes to the sensors.conf file, but I haven't taken the time to figure out the adjustments and do it. Here are the relevant lines that I added to my rc.local file. # I2C adapter drivers modprobe i2c-isa modprobe i2c-viapro # I2C chip drivers modprobe it87 temp_type=0x38 modprobe lm90 I rewrote the lmsensors init script so that it was manually loading the modules rather than pulling them from the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors file. I ran the script and it loaded the modules, then stopped the script and it unloaded the modules. When I went to restart it, the machine hard locked again. I am currently trying to load only the i2c-viapro, i2c-isa, i2c-it87 and it2-lm75 modules and skipping the adm1021 and eeprom modules since my machine appears to have the most issues with the adm1021 module and I don't really need the eeprom one. I have just edited my modules file to load the i2c-proc module at bootup rather than letting it load from the lmsensors init script. If anyone has any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. I would just try without the lm75 loaded. Before I installed the newer version, I was running without any problems. BTW, sensors.conf is stock and I did not add any lines to /etc/modules.conf except the alias for char-major-89 i2c-dev because the other adm1021 line should not be needed since I am not loading adm1021. Yes, that is correct. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: urpmi..great tool...just need to finalize a few question
Jason Williams wrote: cut Does urpmi have the ability to pull security patches down and automatically install? This might help you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] test]$ cat /etc/cron.weekly/update_mdk #!/bin/bash #Keeps the system updated urpmi.update -a --wget urpmi --wget --auto --auto-select --no-verify-rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] test]$ you might want to change that to just get the updates, this first get new list from all of the defined urpmi-sources (urpmi.update -a), then updates all the installed packages (--auto-select), with no confirmation (--auto), regardless of not signed rpms (--no-verify-rpm), both operations using wget instead of curl. Since it's in cron.weekly, well once a week... This is on my destop, a produktion server proberbly needs restart of updated programs. /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: urpmi..great tool...just need to finalize a few question
At 09:36 PM 11/19/2003 +0100, you wrote: This might help you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] test]$ cat /etc/cron.weekly/update_mdk #!/bin/bash #Keeps the system updated urpmi.update -a --wget urpmi --wget --auto --auto-select --no-verify-rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] test]$ you might want to change that to just get the updates, this first get new list from all of the defined urpmi-sources (urpmi.update -a), then updates all the installed packages (--auto-select), with no confirmation (--auto), regardless of not signed rpms (--no-verify-rpm), both operations using wget instead of curl. Since it's in cron.weekly, well once a week... This is on my destop, a produktion server proberbly needs restart of updated programs. /Björn Thanks Bjorn. I appreciate it. I was testing a few commands. After adding my media, I tried to update all the media with this: $ urpmi.update -a retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of updates... ...retrieving done examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz] computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of main... computing md5sum of retrieved source hdlist (or synthesis) ...retrieving failed: md5sum mismatch retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium main examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of contrib... ...retrieving done examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz] Ok..updates seemed to have worked as did contrib, but main failed. Any particular reason why this may have happened? It seems that when main fails, I cant get a full listing of regular packages, like samba (2.2.8a). Is the best way to fix this to remove the media, and add a different media? I appreciate it. Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:03 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote: in order to solve wich one kills your system, you should use the modprobe command and try to load one module at a time until it hangs... Originally, the problem module was the adm1021 module and that was due to the options line included in /etc/modules.conf that was suggested by sensors-detect. However, I removed that module and am no longer trying to load that one. Now, I can manually load all of them and then unload all of them. Running the script, I can also load all and then unload all, it is on the second attempt to load that I get problems. I am going to work on this more tonight, I am beginning to wonder if the problem may stem from trying to unload the i2c-proc module along with the others. For the most part, I don't see a reason to remove the proc module, even if you want to remove the individual sensor modules when shutting the system down. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In the interest of avoiding hard lockups and troubleshooting THAT (see the lm_sensors thread) when all I want to do is troubleshoot my sound problems, which lm_sensor module(s) should I load in order to use dmidecode? I would like to restrict the modules to the minimum needed to get the information you request. praedor On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:20 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote: [...] would you mind sending me the output of the following: # lspcidrake -v # cat /var/log/dmesg # dmidecode (to get the dmidecode program, youhave to install lm_sensors package, but you may remove it after if you want...) - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE/u9+HaKr9sJYeTxgRAv7zAJjCnGLhg0qftcFbK94/cHhe1A3OAJ9W4piq rZ19ej/txu/May0Mj4/2cQ== =I2Z4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: urpmi..great tool...just need to finalize a few question
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:36 pm, Björn Lundin wrote: Jason Williams wrote: cut Does urpmi have the ability to pull security patches down and automatically install? You just have to define an update source. All the update mirrors have the same ../base/hdlist.cz format as the dist tree, so you can add it with urpmi.addmedia updates --update ftp://path to source with ../base/hdlist.cz The --update switch tells urpmi that this is the update source and then you can apply security updates with urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select --update This updates the local hdlists and then autoselects packages for installation based on what you have installed only from the update repository. Have fun. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I think it's safe to say the 2.4.22 kernel series is screwed
From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the interest of avoiding hard lockups and troubleshooting THAT (see the lm_sensors thread) when all I want to do is troubleshoot my sound problems, which lm_sensor module(s) should I load in order to use dmidecode? I would like to restrict the modules to the minimum needed to get the information you request. none. the dmidecode is a standalone program that will probe your bios/system dmi, and give out as much info as it can... -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 06:47, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 09:24 am, Timothy Brown wrote: After you get it started now go to your browser and go to https://localhost:1 make sur you have https Right, I know how to access it manually. I was just wondering if I missed a K-menu entry to start a browser with that URL. No big deal if there isn't - I can add one or use a bookmark. I suppose you could put a icon on the desktop to go to URL but since it isn't an application but rather a web application and it is host/ip dependent it's more hassle and more likely to break things than to enable them. Although there are cheats and shortcuts, as soon as you do it and set it up to open on Konqueror people will be complaining that they want firebird mozilla or some other browser. IMHO it's a a conflict avoidance tactic. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:36:51 -0500, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about [expert] lm sensors: Scenario, I installed lmsensors by RPM, ran sensors-detect and let it create the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors configuration file. When I restarted the computer, the lmsensors init script kicked off, showed loading modules and then nothing, hard lock. I power cycled the machine, booted into failsafe mode, disabled lmsensors init script and went back into Linux. There`s easier ways to tackle that; IMHO. Proberbly failsafe is safe, but why bother, if you`re careful and consider beforehand what you do, go to init 1 and cd to where you want to make your changes. Of course, vi may be the preferred editor for that, but I didn`t have the time to learn it yet. Still mc has a pretty easy editor which will easily access what you need to change. I manually tried to load lmsensors init script and it hard locked again. I rebooted, went back and tried to manually load the modules that are loading from the script and they loaded fine. I then manually unloaded the modules and they also unloaded fine. I rewrote the lmsensors init script so that it was manually loading the modules rather than pulling them from the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors file. I ran the script and it loaded the modules, then stopped the script and it unloaded the modules. When I went to restart it, the machine hard locked again. I would follow following scenario: a. make sure sensorsd service is not running. b. Run the script provided, don`t allow it to modify your conf.modules or whichever they suggest. You already know which modules the script found, so check no modules are loaded, and if they that they are not added by modules.conf. If no modules are listed in the output of lsmod continue, if they are start service lm_sensors and with, for instance Gkrellm see if you get any readings. That means the kernel gives them direct. Only those modules which the kernel might not provide data output for should be loaded as modules via modules.conf. Before any adjustment to the modules stop the service and restart after added (or removing) any modules which do not show up useful values. Compare your kernel logs, particularly /var/log/kernel/errors. It will show bus collisions, if any. I was lucky I did not get hard locks when I ran too many modules, but the logs filled alright. In 9.0 and 9.1 there were a couple of versions that did not have all sensors for *my* modules, I don`t know your board so PH it could be similar. I have just edited my modules file to load the i2c-proc module at bootup rather than letting it load from the lmsensors init script. If anyone has any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. So you appear to be infected by the reboot philosophy of certain O/S`s (sometimes I am guilty of similar behaviours to analyze prob ;-), but with this (unless hardlocked), I see no need to reboot. BTW, sensors.conf is stock and I did not add any lines to /etc/modules.conf You should, that is the only way for the service which this package provides will read any data that are not provided by the kernel. Unless, naturally, the kernel provides *all* for your particular mobo. Best of luck, =Dick Gevers= CDCS; temporarily banking package tester. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/u/G3wC/zk+cxEdMRAh4JAKCf2sA9i3zOso2edquVK8UYFqoZowCdGyG1 Yw47DfYArilWbn7YL6w/1VY= =qffd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Bryan, On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:36:51 -0500, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about [expert] lm sensors: Scenario, I installed lmsensors by RPM, ran sensors-detect and let it create the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors configuration file. When I restarted the computer, the lmsensors init script kicked off, showed loading modules and then nothing, hard lock. I power cycled the machine, booted into failsafe mode, disabled lmsensors init script and went back into Linux. There`s easier ways to tackle that; IMHO. Proberbly failsafe is safe, but why bother, if you`re careful and consider beforehand what you do, go to init 1 and cd to where you want to make your changes. Of course, vi may be the preferred editor for that, but I didn`t have the time to learn it yet. Still mc has a pretty easy editor which will easily access what you need to change. I manually tried to load lmsensors init script and it hard locked again. I rebooted, went back and tried to manually load the modules that are loading from the script and they loaded fine. I then manually unloaded the modules and they also unloaded fine. I rewrote the lmsensors init script so that it was manually loading the modules rather than pulling them from the /etc/sysconfig/lmsensors file. I ran the script and it loaded the modules, then stopped the script and it unloaded the modules. When I went to restart it, the machine hard locked again. I would follow following scenario: a. make sure sensorsd service is not running. b. Run the script provided, don`t allow it to modify your conf.modules or whichever they suggest; you already know which modules the script found, so check no modules are loaded, and if they are not see if Gkrellm already gets some kernel data. If yes don`t put that stream in modules.conf. If no kernel data is read add any of the modules per the script to modules.conf. Before each step and after each erroneous load of modules that don`t add a data stream that Gkrellm can read you have to stop the service unload the previous set of loaded modules. Compare your kernel logs, particularly /var/log/kernel/errors. It will show bus collisions, if any. I was lucky I did not get hard locks when I ran too many modules, but the logs filled alright. In 9.0 and 9.1 there were a couple of versions of the kernel that did not have all sensors for *my* modules, I don`t know your board so with current kernels it could PH be similar, though I estimate the chances extremely slight, given the activity I read on Cooker of Mr. Thomas Backlund and others with respect to the kernel packages. I have just edited my modules file to load the i2c-proc module at bootup rather than letting it load from the lmsensors init script. If anyone has any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. So you appear to be infected by the reboot philosophy of certain O/S`s (sometimes I am guilty of similar behaviours to analyze probs. ;-), but with this (unless hardlocked), I see no need to reboot. BTW, sensors.conf is stock and I did not add any lines to /etc/modules.conf You should, that is the only way for the service which this package provides will read any data that are not provided by the kernel. Unless, naturally, the kernel provides *all* for your particular mobo. Best of luck, =Dick Gevers= CDCS; temporarily banking SW tester. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/u/P0wC/zk+cxEdMRAi8TAKC3vmCfK/pbYTuPzKU6IiwN/ZNWAACcDqku qZ50ekdWPDCKGlAvVhpqD+A= =SYVR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:52 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: I only load the it87. The lm75 driver may be causing your problem, there isn;t one on that board. Also, on the Soyo, I only got accurate readings by specifying a socket type when modprobing the driver. the differnet types are in the docs, but I figured out the Soyo is type 38. The voltages are a little messy too. This can be fixed by making a few changes to the sensors.conf file, but I haven't taken the time to figure out the adjustments and do it. Here are the relevant lines that I added to my rc.local file. Thanks very much for the info Greg. That must have been it. I removed the lm75 module and now it is starting and stopping fine. Also, I moved the i2c-proc module startup to the actual /etc/modules file so that it is started automatically at bootup. That appears to be much better for the script startup method and whether it helps or not, seems to be a little more elegant. I also added an options line in /etc/modules.conf for the it87 temp_type=0x38 option. I will check later to see how accurate the temps are. Again, thanks much for the info, it has probably saved me from a few more hard boots. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm sensors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:42:00 +, Dick Gevers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [expert] lm sensors: Aargh, and I thought I cancelled this one just in time. Please waste. The next version is the final. Sorry. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/u/SJwC/zk+cxEdMRAlCRAJkB9cAD7694CALEz9QgTKsnju+74ACfZCP1 vaM+9gtg3fG9IT+df/OyH1I= =eQIN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.2 keeps killing my router
I have a belkin 4 port router and for some reason mandrake 9.2 keeps killing my connection to the net. what can I do? -- Bradley D. Pierson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] lm sensors
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 05:42 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: There`s easier ways to tackle that; IMHO. Proberbly failsafe is safe, but why bother, if you`re careful and consider beforehand what you do, go to init 1 and cd to where you want to make your changes. Of course, vi may be the preferred editor for that, but I didn`t have the time to learn it yet. Still mc has a pretty easy editor which will easily access what you need to change. Well, at the point that the machine hard locks, keyboard doesn't respond, can't SSH into it and it becomes an effective doorstop, there is not much else to do but restart the machine and remove the lm_sensors script from the init process to troubleshoot the problem which is effectively what I did. When manually loading, it still causes the hard lock, again, no choice but to powercycle the machine which involves rebooting. I would follow following scenario: a. make sure sensorsd service is not running. b. Run the script provided, don`t allow it to modify your conf.modules or whichever they suggest. You already know which modules the script found, so check no modules are loaded, and if they that they are not added by modules.conf. If no modules are listed in the output of lsmod continue, if they are start service lm_sensors and with, for instance Gkrellm see if you get any readings. That means the kernel gives them direct. Only those modules which the kernel might not provide data output for should be loaded as modules via modules.conf. Before any adjustment to the modules stop the service and restart after added (or removing) any modules which do not show up useful values. I tried manually loading an unloading one at a time but I might not have done it often enough to get the hard lock. Now it appears that the culprit is linked to one of the modules and since removing it, I no longer have the problem. Compare your kernel logs, particularly /var/log/kernel/errors. It will show bus collisions, if any. I was lucky I did not get hard locks when I ran too many modules, but the logs filled alright. Well, all I got was hard locks and there was nothing in the logs to show what was causing it. I checked and there is nothing from the start until it shows the hard reboot with kernel reloading. I have just edited my modules file to load the i2c-proc module at bootup rather than letting it load from the lmsensors init script. If anyone has any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. So you appear to be infected by the reboot philosophy of certain O/S`s (sometimes I am guilty of similar behaviours to analyze prob ;-), but with this (unless hardlocked), I see no need to reboot. Since the only issue that I spoke of was the hardlock, not sure I follow your analysis about my troubleshooting style. I don't reboot my machine on a whim and certainly know how to init 1 and then back to init 3 if all I wanted was to test the init process. BTW, sensors.conf is stock and I did not add any lines to /etc/modules.conf You should, that is the only way for the service which this package provides will read any data that are not provided by the kernel. Unless, naturally, the kernel provides *all* for your particular mobo. Well, I will probably have to edit that eventually to get the temps for Vcore accurately reported but the stock conf file appears to be doing a great job so far on CPU temp, MB temp and fan speed. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] 9.2 keeps killing my router
You'll need to give us more information in order for us to help you. Can you be specific as to what happens and when? The more details the better... David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bradley D. Pierson Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 3:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] 9.2 keeps killing my router I have a belkin 4 port router and for some reason mandrake 9.2 keeps killing my connection to the net. what can I do? -- Bradley D. Pierson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 keeps killing my router
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Bradley D. Pierson wrote: I have a belkin 4 port router and for some reason mandrake 9.2 keeps killing my connection to the net. what can I do? Check the lisa service. There was a lot of noise on the cooker list during 9.2 development about it flooding the network with packets and doing similar things to Linksys hardware. -- Stew Benedict Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do you upgrade?
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 21:06, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 11:48 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: OK, my #1 problem with running Linux is dealing with upgrades. With the upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, the Mandrake upgrade worked pretty well, seeming to upgrade the stuff that needed, leaving alone the stuff that didn't. Now, 9.1 to 9.2 club, that was a fiasco. I finally moved my /home to a new partition, and blasted out /boot and /, installing in clean partitions. But what was left over was uploading all the little programs I like, say bidwatcher, KSetiSpy, Audacity, and the like, and nuking all the stuff I don't: devfs and supermount to name two. Then configuring a new hosts file, and setting up fstab to mount all the drives like I want them. So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe you don't. Or maybe you use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not interfere. I wanna know, cause I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my computer. I upgraded my desktop machine using urpmi against a local copy of the dist tree. It went very smoothly and I really had no problems. First thing I did was urpmi itself 'urpmi urpmi', then the kernel 'urpmi kernel' then reboot, then everything else using the --auto-select switch, 'urpmi --auto-select'. Actually for me the upgrade for 9.1 to 9.2 of so far 4 boxes was the only time I've ever had a successful upgrade, on any Linux. I did what was suggested above plus a bit more. The details from my efforts + a number of others have been combined into the TWiki http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UrpmiUpgrade Know issues with the 9.1 to 9.0 path are here as well, hopefully everyone who contributed to this one was/is thorough. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Gnome and a dialer app?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:48, anton wrote: I'm using kppp in Gnome. It takes an age to start, and won't minimise into the bottom panel (or if it can then I'd like to know how...), but can't see anything else even remotely as good. I think my experiment with gnome will probably end quite soon... Anton Anton. Don't use dialup ATT myself but I think the rpm you need is called gpppwrap just do urpmi gpppwrap and try it out. James Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't generally use gnome (and haven't tried it for at least 6 months or more). Last evening, in trying to locate where the problem resided with regards to my desktop and sound (or lack thereof) I started up Gnome 2.4 for the first time. Pretty nice actually. I was pleasantly suprised. What I didn't find, however, was a dialer app like kppp. I would swear that I installed all the gnome stuff when I installed 9.2 but perhaps I missed something? Is there not a dedicated gnome dialer? What's its name? praedor - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uQphaKr9sJYeTxgRAkdZAJ4n1Bc8vNLugfnt/If37abQ+Ye3swCfWfIF tCzIb0mjlNh+2bgDewBXGtA= =S0h3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 14:52, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 10:40 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: snip What a horrible shame! It's really the only front end for a lot of network configuration. What are the problems? I didn't find any bug reports on Cooker Bugzilla or bugs.mandrakelinux.com, or discussions in the mailing list for the last 3 months... Mandrake has completely changed it's network configuration files from what linuxconf expects. So everything gets borked if you try to use it. If you want to use it, you have a lot of work to do to make sure the right stuff is installed and the config files are in the right place. Unfortunately, if you know enough to fix it, you know enough to not need it. For networking configuration, try the drakconnect applet in Mandrake Control Center. Fortunately, that applet is much better now and makes netconf unnecessary IMO. Webmin works well with Mandrake9.2 as well, making ease of adding static routes, sub interfaces, etc it far superior to Linuxconf Cheers Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] garbage collection ?
hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... i hope you don't rip my head off for this, but that behaviour seems a little window-esque to me... granted, its a lot slower than on a windows box. is there anything i can do to optimise garbage collection ? tnx! lukas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:37:43 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my desktop. Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. Errors all over the place. On 9.2 I started with the default 2.4.22-10mdk kernel, then built and tried 2.4.22-21mdk. No go. No sound. I have now built the 2.4.22-multimedia kernel and...no multimedia! No sound. Same problem. There is something borked in the 2.4.22 kernel series with regards to sound. this is just a guess. I needed to do it the first time i installed 9.1 on my computer, but not the 2nd (same computer, though). Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto mute--mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... eric Thanks Eric, did it for me. Hope it did it for Praedor too. BTW what is Pcm as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Adams wrote: BTW what is Pcm as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. Pulse Code Modulation (digital audio) - -- KevinO AMAZING BUT TRUE ... If all the salmon caught in Canada in one year were laid end to end across the Sahara Desert, the smell would be absolutely awful. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/ufCOWOfRC7Rnmv8RAq9QAJ9l9ROm+XUaNd67OMGMtgqntkjNRQCeP3aQ AEtHAqiNO0R2u+HOSTE+URM= =Gmxq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:30 am, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... Linux uses memory very differently from Windows. This is normal behaviour, making all memory quickly available at all times. It dynamically releases memory least likely to be needed whenever something else requires it. It's nothing to worry about at all. i hope you don't rip my head off for this, but that behaviour seems a little window-esque to me... granted, its a lot slower than on a windows box. It shouldn't be a lot slower. Things that might affect it are How much RAM have you got? How full is your drive? In a console, type df Is the drive using dma? - try hdparm -d /dev/hda (assuming hda is your drive letter) Paste here what replies you get. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:30 am, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... Linux uses memory very differently from Windows. This is normal behaviour, making all memory quickly available at all times. It dynamically releases memory least likely to be needed whenever something else requires it. It's nothing to worry about at all. i hope you don't rip my head off for this, but that behaviour seems a little window-esque to me... granted, its a lot slower than on a windows box. It shouldn't be a lot slower. Things that might affect it are How much RAM have you got? How full is your drive? In a console, type df Is the drive using dma? - try hdparm -d /dev/hda (assuming hda is your drive letter) Paste here what replies you get. Anne okay, your answer clarifies that. i'm reliefed :) what i meant was: the process of using up all avalable memory is much slower than on windows. the machine runs a LOT faster than on windows! :)) output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# hdparm -d /dev/hda /dev/hda: using_dma= 1 (on) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do you upgrade?
--- Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] With the upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, the Mandrake upgrade worked pretty well, seeming to upgrade the stuff that needed, leaving alone the stuff that didn't. I cannot say the same thing because i had some porblem with kde menus, but i came from 8.2 before and something of kde 2.2 survived. Now, 9.1 to 9.2 club, that was a fiasco. I finally moved my /home to a new partition, and blasted out /boot and /, installing in clean partitions. But what was left over was uploading all the little programs I like, say bidwatcher, KSetiSpy, Audacity, and the like, and nuking all the stuff I don't: devfs and supermount to name two. Then configuring a new hosts file, and setting up fstab to mount all the drives like I want them. I had a lot of problem me either. I had to use grub instead of linux when installation finished because of errors i don't understood. (see my mail of upgrade: no answers) I couldn't use kde because of riva tnt2 card. I had to rebuild the driver, but no kernel source was present, so i had to download the one on the update site. To do so i had to use old kernel -of course it worked perfectly! Now my hd works with pio mode 16 bit and all seems to be slower. I patched the installation to allow installing security updates during installation, but now all my pakages have check signature fail! The key printed is the same of mine, but lower case! I upgraded k3b (rel. 10), and i cannot use it because of k3bsetup disappeared (i didn't found on kde control centre and no where else) I upgraded to 9.2 last sunday today it's the third day! what can i find more? So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe you don't. Or maybe you use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not interfere. I wanna know, cause I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my computer. I'd like to know too. thanks Angelo __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 07:43, elPunishar wrote: On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:30 am, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... Linux uses memory very differently from Windows. This is normal behaviour, making all memory quickly available at all times. It dynamically releases memory least likely to be needed whenever something else requires it. It's nothing to worry about at all. i hope you don't rip my head off for this, but that behaviour seems a little window-esque to me... granted, its a lot slower than on a windows box. It shouldn't be a lot slower. Things that might affect it are How much RAM have you got? How full is your drive? In a console, type df Is the drive using dma? - try hdparm -d /dev/hda (assuming hda is your drive letter) Paste here what replies you get. Anne okay, your answer clarifies that. i'm reliefed :) what i meant was: the process of using up all avalable memory is much slower than on windows. the machine runs a LOT faster than on windows! :)) output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# hdparm -d /dev/hda /dev/hda: using_dma= 1 (on) What sounds a little strange to me is that the system starts filling the swap space. Given the amount of memory you have (1Gb) it shouldn't use the swap space (unless you have a lot of processes running simultaneously). I have read about some problems when using more than 768 Mb ram and the advise has always been passing mem=860 at the lilo prompt or in lilo.conf. Just my 2 cents. Adolfo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 11:43 am, elPunishar wrote: On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:30 am, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... Linux uses memory very differently from Windows. This is normal behaviour, making all memory quickly available at all times. It dynamically releases memory least likely to be needed whenever something else requires it. It's nothing to worry about at all. i hope you don't rip my head off for this, but that behaviour seems a little window-esque to me... granted, its a lot slower than on a windows box. It shouldn't be a lot slower. Things that might affect it are How much RAM have you got? How full is your drive? In a console, type df Is the drive using dma? - try hdparm -d /dev/hda (assuming hda is your drive letter) Paste here what replies you get. Anne okay, your answer clarifies that. i'm reliefed :) what i meant was: the process of using up all avalable memory is much slower than on windows. the machine runs a LOT faster than on windows! :)) output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# hdparm -d /dev/hda /dev/hda: using_dma= 1 (on) Everything looks fine. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] problem with pio mode
So there isn't any problem is it? I saw this thing because of a system that seems to be slower and with more hd access so i assumed the message ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx as something wrong on my system. --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 13:12, Angelo Naselli wrote: Any idea? why 16 bit ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# /sbin/hdparm -v /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount= 16 (on) This is what I think you are refering to. from the man page. -m Get/set sector count for multiple sector I/O on the drive. A setting of 0 disables this feature. Multiple sector mode (aka IDE Block Mode), is a feature of most modern IDE hard drives, permitting the transfer of multiple sectors per I/O interrupt, rather than the usual one sector per interrupt. When this feature is enabled, it typically reduces operating system overhead for disk I/O by 30-50%. On many systems, it also provides increased data throughput of anywhere from 5% to 50%. Some drives, however (most notably the WD Caviar series), seem to run slower with multiple mode enabled. Your mileage may vary. Most drives support the minimum settings of 2, 4, 8, or 16 (sectors). Larger settings may also be possible, depending on the drive. A setting of 16 or 32 seems optimal on many systems. Western Digital recommends lower settings of 4 to 8 on many of their drives, due tiny (32kB) drive buffers and non-optimized buffering algorithms. The -i flag can be used to find the maximum setting supported by an installed drive (look for MaxMultSect in the output). Some drives claim to support multiple mode, but lose data at some settings. Under rare circumstances, such failures can result in massive filesystem corruption. The 16 bit setting is a least common denominator. A good number of drives out there either can't do or if they do, have no gain going to 32 bit. 32 bit also increases the chance of data corruption on drives that are dicey. So MDK and others pic the method least likely to cause problems. 16bit. James IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq= 0 (off) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) geometry = 9964/255/63, sectors = 160086528, start = 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# dmesg [...] Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_I RQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx SIS5513: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:02.5 SIS5513: chipset revision 208 SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later SIS5513: SiS735 ATA 100 (2nd gen) controller ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0, ATA DISK drive blk: queue c0181bc0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x) hdc: SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616Q, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: host protected area = 1 hda: 160086528 sectors (81964 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=9964/255/63, UDMA(33) Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p5 p6 p7 [...] __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
I really wish it still worked becasue while I do know enough to not use it. It just makes life easier Tim Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 10:40 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 12:15 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 11:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim It's moved to contrib, but be careful, it is really quite broken in 9.2, especially as related to Network stuff. ^^ What a horrible shame! It's really the only front end for a lot of network configuration. What are the problems? I didn't find any bug reports on Cooker Bugzilla or bugs.mandrakelinux.com, or discussions in the mailing list for the last 3 months... Mandrake has completely changed it's network configuration files from what linuxconf expects. So everything gets borked if you try to use it. If you want to use it, you have a lot of work to do to make sure the right stuff is installed and the config files are in the right place. Unfortunately, if you know enough to fix it, you know enough to not need it. For networking configuration, try the drakconnect applet in Mandrake Control Center. Fortunately, that applet is much better now and makes netconf unnecessary IMO. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] GCC
Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. Jarmo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 06:08 am, Adolfo Bello wrote: I have read about some problems when using more than 768 Mb ram and the advise has always been passing mem=860 at the lilo prompt or in lilo.conf. Or use the Enterprise kernel. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. It wasn't. 9.1 has 3.2.2. -- Stew Benedict Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:41, Stew Benedict wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. It wasn't. 9.1 has 3.2.2. Sorry...Missunderstanding...My BAD BAD English... In 9.1 it is 3.3.2 In 9.2 it is 3.3.1 Downgraded? Jarmo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:41, Stew Benedict wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. It wasn't. 9.1 has 3.2.2. Sorry...Missunderstanding...My BAD BAD English... In 9.1 it is 3.3.2 In 9.2 it is 3.3.1 Downgraded? I understand your English fine, just don't agree with your statement: [EMAIL PROTECTED] stew]$ cat /etc/mandrake-release Mandrake Linux release 9.1 (Bamboo) for ppc [EMAIL PROTECTED] stew]$ gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-3mdk) It's PPC, but the versions are the same as x86. -- Stew Benedict Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
Now I'll have to beat the Sparenberg drum - this clearly deserves a bug report. I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and don't have 9.2 installed on any systems. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
From: Jarmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:41, Stew Benedict wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. It wasn't. 9.1 has 3.2.2. Sorry...Missunderstanding...My BAD BAD English... In 9.1 it is 3.3.2 In 9.2 it is 3.3.1 Downgraded? Nope. If you had a 3.3.2 package in 9.1 you got it somwhere else... with a fake version number I might add, as according gcc.gnu.org: GCC 3.3.2 (released 2003-10-17) and looking at a ftp site near you: ftp://ftp.song.fi/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/ you will see: 03/03/2003 12:00 4,119,793 gcc-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 1,988,909 gcc-c++-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 37,146 gcc-colorgcc-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00147,356 gcc-cpp-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00966,657 gcc-doc-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 4,403,079 gcc-doc-pdf-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 1,589,109 gcc-g77-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 7,194,031 gcc-gnat-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 01/08/2003 12:00 2,324,573 gcc-gpc-2.95.3-5mdk.i586.rpm 01/08/2003 12:00457,415 gcc-gpc-devel-2.95.3-5mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 1,446,712 gcc-java-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 1,327,557 gcc-objc-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00137,731 gcj-tools-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm so it's definately 3.2.2 in 9.1 -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 12:31 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 06:08 am, Adolfo Bello wrote: I have read about some problems when using more than 768 Mb ram and the advise has always been passing mem=860 at the lilo prompt or in lilo.conf. Or use the Enterprise kernel. Most reports are that the system will preform better with the regular kernel, and passing 'mem=860M' (or 880M) than using = 1 gig or ram and the enterprise kernel. The 'bigmem' memory addressing scheme the enterprise kernels use imposes a performance hit. This has been mentioned off and on on the cooker and lkml lists. It's also been my experience. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 15:39, Thomas Backlund wrote: so it's definately 3.2.2 SORRY GUYS.. Too much reading...Have to cut whole forrest to see trees...;-) Or wash my glasses Damn me. The point why I started to look,was that I can't get lm-sensors 2.8.0 compiled...Yes I know there is rpm...But I have so exotic mb... Asrock K7S8X with sis cipset,exept sensors are winbonds... I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lm_sensors-2.8.0]# make make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2.2/include/stdio.h', needed by `prog/detect/dmidecode.rd'. Stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED] lm_sensors-2.8.0]# And I should have seen there 3.2.2 But anyway,there is not stdio.h in 3.3.1/include either Jarmo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
Lawson, Jim wrote: I think 120 a year is high. I would like to see this at 80. 120 is the silver level, 60 is for standard. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 16:01, Jarmo wrote: The point why I started to look,was that I can't get lm-sensors 2.8.0 compiled...Yes I know there is rpm...But I have so exotic mb... Asrock K7S8X with sis cipset,exept sensors are winbonds... No worry anymore.Downloaded lm-sensors 2.8.1 as well as i2c-2.8.1 and got them working... Again sorry for bothering... Jarmo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
What is the difference? Does silver offer anything more? -Original Message- From: Eric Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy? Lawson, Jim wrote: I think 120 a year is high. I would like to see this at 80. 120 is the silver level, 60 is for standard. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 01:30, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... memory at 80% full is normal disk caching, and Windows does it too (they just don't report it). Growing usage and using swap may not be normal though. Try running top and pressing M to sort by memory usage, then watch it. You may have an app leaking memory. ... -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... I couldn't guarantee that I wouldn't do wrong, not sure what it is I'd be saving you from... heaven's blue and it's vaulted white, every breath you take takes mine, gotta see it's no good leaving it up to me to make you happy. -- Hanging By Strands from Homeless Where The Heart Is by Barbara Manning and the Go-Luckys! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 21:41, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 9:22 am, Björn Lundin wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: Rob draksound AFAIK is only effective on PCI type cards. Since your is ISA, using the old standby of sndconfig (just urpmi sndconfig) This should bring you online no sweat. One note. You have to run it from a regular tty not a konsole or xterm window for it to work right. I've used this chipset in the past and it works well, sndconfig has it in it's database and can get you up. I have a 4236-card which sndconfig can get sound from, but it have not, (since mdk8.1) been able to save its settings. Every time i install a new mdk since then I've had to resort to run pnpdump + isapnp, and comment out when given multiple choise. I also put alias sound-slot-0 cs4232 options sound dmabuf=1 alias synth0 opl3 options opl3 io=0x388 options cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=0 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=10 Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... We knocked another couple back, The dead soldiers lined up on the table still prepared for an attack, they didn't know they'd been disabled. Baby Britain from XO by Elliott Smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] strange network (vnc) problem
When I try to log into my vnc server using vnc viewer (both boxes use mdk 9.1) the screen appears but suddenly closes itself after a few seconds. This is the server log (most relevant part only): 18/11/2003 11:40:10 Got connection from client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:10 Protocol version 3.3 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Full-control authentication passed by 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Pixel format for client 192.168.1.18: 18/11/2003 11:40:12 16 bpp, depth 16, little endian 18/11/2003 11:40:12 true colour: max r 31 g 63 b 31, shift r 11 g 5 b 0 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Using copyrect encoding for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Using tight encoding for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Using compression level 1 for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Using image quality level 6 for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Enabling X-style cursor updates for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Enabling cursor position updates for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Enabling LastRect protocol extension for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:22 WriteExact: select: Interrupted system call 18/11/2003 11:40:22 rfbSendUpdateBuf: write: Interrupted system call 18/11/2003 11:40:22 Client 192.168.1.18 gone I can see that those Interrupted system call are the problem, but what does this mean? How can I fix it? Thanks in advance, Leonardo Sá _ MSN Messenger: converse com os seus amigos online. http://messenger.msn.com.br Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
Lawson, Jim wrote: What is the difference? Does silver offer anything more? Silver members could download the isos of the powerpack through bittorrent. However, standard members have the download edition + access to all commercial packages, so you have exactly the equivalent of a powerpack. You just have to install commercial applications by yourself (for example pre compiled ATI or nvidia drivers), on a powerpack it would be installed during the OS installation. But urpmi/rpmdrake makes it easy to use, since club repositories are media like any others (with login/password access). So you just need to install the download edition, add the club media (commercial, test) and you have an equivalent access to the CDs of the powerpack. See my guide about the software installer and media management : http://www.zebulon.org.uk/ICML0.HTML Cheers. Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the volume sliders (pretty much any of them). If I crank up my speaker volume to max and try to test sound/arts via control center, I don't even hear faint sounds. Playing music cds works fine, however. I also tried killing artsd and trying to get sound working through esound. Nope. The system is broken before any sound daemons, in the drivers somewhere. My next trick, since I cannot build a 9.1 kernel on 9.2 is to simply try installing a binary 9.1 kernel on my desktop and see if I can get away with that. No 9.2 kernel I've tried, binary or self-built, works with sound on my system. praedor On Tuesday 18 November 2003 04:29 am, Michael Adams wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:37:43 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my desktop. Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. [...] Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto mute--mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... [...] Thanks Eric, did it for me. Hope it did it for Praedor too. BTW what is Pcm as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uj7PaKr9sJYeTxgRAto8AKC6mAgM4yfZ8Nb7XB7M2F4xjjbKfgCbB/Oj roQ0lcFthArbg2ahWzaG5vU= =DD7S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Linuxconf
-Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
Well I long time ago I used it but for the last few years I have been using Mandrake I have used 8.2-9.2 Tim Tango Echo wrote: -Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Linuxconf
Lol, ok... Guess I should be dispelling my impression that the Red Hat community support group consists of flames and RTFMs. Huh, must've been my experiences on Dalnet. -Original Message- From: Timothy Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf Well I long time ago I used it but for the last few years I have been using Mandrake I have used 8.2-9.2 Tim Tango Echo wrote: -Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
lol :) Tango Echo wrote: Lol, ok... Guess I should be dispelling my impression that the Red Hat community support group consists of flames and RTFMs. Huh, must've been my experiences on Dalnet. -Original Message- From: Timothy Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf Well I long time ago I used it but for the last few years I have been using Mandrake I have used 8.2-9.2 Tim Tango Echo wrote: -Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:35, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 01:30, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... memory at 80% full is normal disk caching, and Windows does it too (they just don't report it). Growing usage and using swap may not be normal though. Try running top and pressing M to sort by memory usage, then watch it. You may have an app leaking memory. ... -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 0. Just add yourself to the password file and make a directory... --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Samsung LCD monitor
Hello, I'm trying to set up a LM 9.2 box with a Samsung 173V LCD monitor. The graphics card is an onboard SiS Savage 8 chip. XFree86 runs OK, but when I reboot I frequently get a black screen. When I unplug the monitor for a few seconds and get a no signal message, then plug it in, everything is OK. I noticed a similar behavior on a different box when I was installing Win98 when booting from a floppy disk. After it was installed, Win98 and the monitor seem OK on that box. I'm wondering is this more likely to be an issue with XFree86 and the graphics card, or a problem with the monitor itself? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:50, Michael Holt wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:35, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 01:30, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... memory at 80% full is normal disk caching, and Windows does it too (they just don't report it). Growing usage and using swap may not be normal though. Try running top and pressing M to sort by memory usage, then watch it. You may have an app leaking memory. ... -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? well, it's normal for me :-) I've read that the VMM will allocate as much RAM as feasible and practical to disk caching. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Take my hand and dry your tears babe, take my hand and forget your fears babe, there's no more pain, there's no more sorrow, they've all gone, gone in the years babe. -- The Broad Majestic Shannon from If I Should Fall From Grace With God by The P ogues Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:46:15 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the volume sliders (pretty much any of them). If I crank up my speaker volume to max and try to test sound/arts via control center, I don't even hear faint sounds. Playing music cds works fine, however. I also tried killing artsd and trying to get sound working through esound. Nope. The system is broken before any sound daemons, in the drivers somewhere. This may not be any help, but this just came through Cooker Bug, and I don't see that anyone mentioned kernel boot parameters. NOTE his *last* sentence: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5821 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-18 18:39 --- I'm having the same problem (freezing during boot when ACPI is enabled) on a Toshiba Satellite 5105 installing from the PowerPack 9.2 DVD. Unfortunatly, the nolapic option didn't work for me. I'm relatively new to kernel options, so I may be applying incorrectly. I added nolapic to my append list in lilo.conf and then ran lilo, but it still freezes. Are there any other options to get this working? I think it's also causing other things to go wrong with my machine, like the sound not working. My sound didn't work with 9.1 until I enabled ACPI, then like magic, it was fine. -- _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:11, Jack Coates wrote: Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? well, it's normal for me :-) I've read that the VMM will allocate as much RAM as feasible and practical to disk caching. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... LOL, I didn't mean anything by it, I've heard that too and wondered what the basis was :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 50. [looks at workstation] Say, what version of Dos is this running? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Powerpack Md5sums
I need the md5sums for the powerpack edition downloaded from bittorrent. Who's got em? And no I don't care about the theoretically infallible bittorrent checksums, I just want to check the iso's myself. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Lets face it if winblowz wasn't full of holes then it would probably look like Linux -- Aron Smith, Mandrake OT mailing list *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks. Actually, I DO suspect apic/apci (I can never keep the two straight). If I disable APIC in the kernel, then 9.2 will not bootup. It freezes shortly after starting the bootup process. This was true during install as well. I had to turn on APIC to get bootup and install. I have tried the noapic switch when booting kernels but it doesn't change anything (still no sound). I have acpi=ht in my kernel options line in lilo (default setup from install). I have tried acpi=off but this doesn't change anything either (still no sound). Somewhere there is a problem in the kernel or the alsa drivers, or perhaps both. It is suspicious that it is impossible to boot a kernel if APIC is disabled (all previous installs of Mandrake up to 9.1 required that I disable APIC in bios to get a fully functional and stable system). SuSE 9.0 uses a modified 2.4.21 kernel (modified with many 2.6.x additions) and it works fine, sound included. I suspect the 2.4.22 kernel series itself. praedor On Tuesday 18 November 2003 05:09 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:46:15 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the [...] --- I'm having the same problem (freezing during boot when ACPI is enabled) on a Toshiba Satellite 5105 installing from the PowerPack 9.2 DVD. Unfortunatly, the nolapic option didn't work for me. I'm relatively new to kernel options, so I may be applying incorrectly. I added nolapic to my append list in lilo.conf and then ran lilo, but it still freezes. Are there any other options to get this working? I think it's also causing other things to go wrong with my machine, like the sound not working. My sound didn't work with 9.1 until I enabled ACPI, then like magic, it was fine. - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/umZkaKr9sJYeTxgRAg8BAKCCT1IhPdu/i2DPOZnUkL+qc8VkOwCfd3tb 5zqAPUMyDRqHsgx4gWlfQ2k= =/H99 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Samsung LCD monitor
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Daniel Axtell wrote: XFree86 runs OK, but when I reboot I frequently get a black screen. When I unplug the monitor for a few seconds and get a no signal message, then plug it in, everything is OK. I noticed a similar behavior on a different box when I was installing Win98 when booting from a floppy disk. After it was installed, Win98 and the monitor seem OK on that box. I see this sometimes, too (Abit AT7/MAX2, Gainward GeForce4 w/ TI4800, Dual Iiyama-TFT; from time to time, the second one stays black). If I understand it correctly, it's a problem with the _graphics card_/mainboard (power consumption peak, therefore no proper initialisation takes place); when you repeat the initialisation process, either by un-/re-plugging the monitor or invoking a graphics driver (-Windows/XFree startup), chances are that no peak is triggered. (Note that during a reboot, many devices are reset at once; if your BIOS does allow it, you may try -- at your own risk! -- to adjust voltages) ... HTH, -- Dipl.-Inf. Markus Ueberall Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universität Tel: (069)798-28361 Fax: -23340Institut für Informatik / Telematik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] java in my path?
Hey, I need to know where to go to add the java binary to my path - who do I modify? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 92. What software license? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Powerpack Md5sums
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1302 The powerpack ones are at the bottom of the page I believe. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Powerpack Md5sums I need the md5sums for the powerpack edition downloaded from bittorrent. Who's got em? And no I don't care about the theoretically infallible bittorrent checksums, I just want to check the iso's myself. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Lets face it if winblowz wasn't full of holes then it would probably look like Linux -- Aron Smith, Mandrake OT mailing list *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:18, Michael Holt wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:11, Jack Coates wrote: Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? well, it's normal for me :-) I've read that the VMM will allocate as much RAM as feasible and practical to disk caching. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... LOL, I didn't mean anything by it, I've heard that too and wondered what the basis was :) If I do a cat on /proc/meminfo total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 390709248 371380224 193290240 13205504 181313536 Swap: 1230839808 48295936 1182543872 MemTotal: 381552 kB MemFree: 18876 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers: 12896 kB Cached: 172232 kB SwapCached: 4832 kB Active: 147668 kB Inactive: 190916 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree:0 kB LowTotal: 381552 kB LowFree: 18876 kB SwapTotal: 1201992 kB SwapFree: 1154828 kB And the only thing beyond kde open is evolution. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] java in my path?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 11:16, Michael Holt wrote: Hey, I need to know where to go to add the java binary to my path - who do I modify? just you: edit ~/.bash_profile JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01/ export JAVA_HOME PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin everyone -- edit /etc/profile and add the same. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Through counterintelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential troublemakers and neutralize them... -- Wake Up by Rage Against The Machine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] problem with pio mode
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 03:32, Angelo Naselli wrote: So there isn't any problem is it? I saw this thing because of a system that seems to be slower and with more hd access so i assumed the message ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx as something wrong on my system. No problem. You might try doing hdparm -m 32 to see if it speeds up disk access. But the reference to PIO mode would only affect you directly if you had some really old HDD's or CD drives on the box. The PIO IDE bus and the UDMA IDE bus are different (Although I don't have all of the details on the difference.) and you use one but not the other. james --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 13:12, Angelo Naselli wrote: Any idea? why 16 bit ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# /sbin/hdparm -v /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount= 16 (on) This is what I think you are refering to. from the man page. -m Get/set sector count for multiple sector I/O on the drive. A setting of 0 disables this feature. Multiple sector mode (aka IDE Block Mode), is a feature of most modern IDE hard drives, permitting the transfer of multiple sectors per I/O interrupt, rather than the usual one sector per interrupt. When this feature is enabled, it typically reduces operating system overhead for disk I/O by 30-50%. On many systems, it also provides increased data throughput of anywhere from 5% to 50%. Some drives, however (most notably the WD Caviar series), seem to run slower withmultiple mode enabled. Your mileage may vary. Most drives support the minimum settings of 2, 4, 8, or 16 (sectors). Larger settings may also be possible, depending on the drive. A setting of 16 or 32 seems optimal on many systems. Western Digital recommends lower settings of 4 to 8 on many of their drives, due tiny (32kB) drive buffers and non-optimized buffering algorithms. The -i flag can be used to find the maximum setting supported by an installed drive (look for MaxMultSect in the output). Some drives claim to support multiple mode, but lose data at some settings. Under rare circumstances, such failures can result in massive filesystem corruption. The 16 bit setting is a least common denominator. A good number of drives out there either can't do or if they do, have no gain going to 32 bit. 32 bit also increases the chance of data corruption on drives that are dicey. So MDK and others pic the method least likely to cause problems. 16bit. James IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq= 0 (off) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) geometry = 9964/255/63, sectors = 160086528, start = 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# dmesg [...] Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_I RQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx SIS5513: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:02.5 SIS5513: chipset revision 208 SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later SIS5513: SiS735 ATA 100 (2nd gen) controller ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0, ATA DISK drive blk: queue c0181bc0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x) hdc: SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616Q, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: host protected area = 1 hda: 160086528 sectors (81964 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=9964/255/63, UDMA(33) Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p5 p6 p7 [...] __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 05:10, Jarmo wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:41, Stew Benedict wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. It wasn't. 9.1 has 3.2.2. Sorry...Missunderstanding...My BAD BAD English... In 9.1 it is 3.3.2 In 9.2 it is 3.3.1 Downgraded? Jarmo Jarmo, My 9.1 is at 3.2.2 dunno where you got the upgrade but the stock is 3.2.2 James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:23, Jarmo wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 16:01, Jarmo wrote: The point why I started to look,was that I can't get lm-sensors 2.8.0 compiled...Yes I know there is rpm...But I have so exotic mb... Asrock K7S8X with sis cipset,exept sensors are winbonds... No worry anymore.Downloaded lm-sensors 2.8.1 as well as i2c-2.8.1 and got them working... Again sorry for bothering... Jarmo No bother... btw I've got the stdio.h from package gcc-3.2.2 hmmm curiouser and curiouser. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] problem with pio mode
From: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 03:32, Angelo Naselli wrote: So there isn't any problem is it? I saw this thing because of a system that seems to be slower and with more hd access so i assumed the message ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx as something wrong on my system. No problem. You might try doing hdparm -m 32 to see if it speeds up disk access. But the reference to PIO mode would only affect you directly if you had some really old HDD's or CD drives on the box. The PIO IDE bus and the UDMA IDE bus are different (Although I don't have all of the details on the difference.) and you use one but not the other. Actually the bus is the same, it's only the data flow protocol on the bus that changes... running the bus in pio mode means that your cpu workload will get high since it has to be in charge of moving all the data to and from ram... but when the bus is running dma, the data from the hdd to ram will bypass your cpu (and leave it free for other work) and rely an the dma controller to make sure the data gets to/from ram. going from dma to udma adds crc32 checking to the transfers, thus enabling higher transfer speeds without transfer errors ... So, in short... to gain full speed from a pio hdd, your cpu will run with 60-99% workload, whereas running udma will keep it around 3-5% ( of course your might see different values, but this was only a generic example) -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] problem with pio mode
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 12:02, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 03:32, Angelo Naselli wrote: So there isn't any problem is it? I saw this thing because of a system that seems to be slower and with more hd access so i assumed the message ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx as something wrong on my system. No problem. You might try doing hdparm -m 32 to see if it speeds up disk access. But the reference to PIO mode would only affect you directly if you had some really old HDD's or CD drives on the box. The PIO IDE bus and the UDMA IDE bus are different (Although I don't have all of the details on the difference.) and you use one but not the other. Actually the bus is the same, it's only the data flow protocol on the bus that changes... True enough I knew what I meant ... not what I said. *grin* running the bus in pio mode means that your cpu workload will get high since it has to be in charge of moving all the data to and from ram... but when the bus is running dma, the data from the hdd to ram will bypass your cpu (and leave it free for other work) and rely an the dma controller to make sure the data gets to/from ram. going from dma to udma adds crc32 checking to the transfers, thus enabling higher transfer speeds without transfer errors ... So, in short... to gain full speed from a pio hdd, your cpu will run with 60-99% workload, whereas running udma will keep it around 3-5% ( of course your might see different values, but this was only a generic example) -- Regards Thomas __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
