Re: [expert] Where are ALL the SRPMS?

2000-08-31 Thread Fergal Daly

At 06:42 31/08/00, you wrote:
On Wed Aug 30, 2000 at 11:42:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Try the mirror here. It's usually fast and upto date:
  http://n3meq.dynip.com  .. Pj

Looks like it's just a mirror for cooker and contribs... the SRPMS in
question are for the 7.1 release.

Well, I've mailed Mandrake about it, no response as yet. I mailed mirrors 
and webmaster as I couldn't find anything more appropriate on the contacts 
page. Can anyone suggest a better contact address for this sort of thing?

Fergal






Re: [expert] Where are ALL the SRPMS?

2000-08-30 Thread Fergal Daly

At 08:56 30/08/00, you wrote:
Submitted 30-Aug-00 by Fergal Daly:

  About 150, whereas there should be more like 1000, eg there are no XFree86
  packages there and also the wine rpm is missing.

Actually there should be quite a bit less than 1,000.  Many SRPMS build
several packages.  For example, the kernel src.rpm builds all of the alsa
RPMS as well as all of the kernel RPMS and the reiserfs-utils and
MandrakeUpdate also builds urpmi and grpmi.

OK, fair point but there is definitely not a 6:1 RPM:SRPM ratio!

Fergal






Re: [expert] Where are ALL the SRPMS?

2000-08-30 Thread Fergal Daly

At 10:43 30/08/00, you wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the case but maybe Mandrake only supply the source 
code
to packages they modify? For the packages that aren't modified (ie. only
recompiled to i586 form) then the source code to the RedHat versions would be
just as good, available at any RedHat mirror. I haven't read it in a while,
what does the GPL say about distribution without modification?

That occurred to me but Redhat don't distribute wine (which is the package 
that's bugging me). Under the GPL the person who distributes the binary is 
responsible for distributing the source it doesn't matter whether it's been 
modified or not. I think it's acceptable for them to point you at someone 
else's website and say "there's the SRPM, it's exactly the same as the one 
we used". However It is not acceptable to point someone to the website and 
tell them to get the tarball from there. As the GPL says

For an executable work, complete source code means all the source code for 
all modules it contains, plus any associated interface definition files, 
plus the scripts used to control compilation and installation of the 
executable.

ie the rpm spec file is also a requirement.

Is there some reason they don't want the SRPMs available or is it just an 
oversight? Anyway, I think I'll mail someone at MandrakeSoft directly to 
try find out,

Fergal







Re: [expert] Where are ALL the SRPMS?

2000-08-29 Thread Fergal Daly

At 22:22 29/08/00, Svante Signell wrote:
How many SRPMS for MDK-7.1 do you find at:
  ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/SRPMS/

About 150, whereas there should be more like 1000, eg there are no XFree86 
packages there and also the wine rpm is missing.

You are referring to the mandrake-devel directory not 7.1.

No, I'm referring to 7.1, I have no problem finding the cooker stuff.

This is completely against the GPL, they must make the source available. As 
was said before, someone from Mandrake should clear this up on the list,

Fergal







[expert] Where are ALL the SRPMS?

2000-08-26 Thread Fergal Daly

Hi,
I've searched the archives of the mailing lists and seen this question 
arise several times but it doesn't seem to have ever been answered 
properly! Either the question has been ignored or the link provided isn't 
any use. The SRPMS directory on the mirror sites only has about 100 
packages. Can anyone tell me where all the others are? Thanks,

Fergal