Re: [expert] NFS mounts fail

2000-07-07 Thread Manuël Beunder

On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
  I seem to have a problem between two NFS server, mounting each others stuff,
  the one is a SuSE6.1 machine running 2.2.16 (same with 2.2.13) and the other a
  Mandrake 7.0 machine, running 2.2.16 (same with 2.4.0test2) as well. Mounts
  located on the SuSE machine to the Mandrake machine work just fine, but
  v.v.: nogo..
  
  on the Mandrake machine:
  /etc/exports:
  
   See exports(5) for a description.
  # This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers.
  # It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd.
  #/usr/src/linux 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro)
  #,no_root_squash)
  #/usr/doc   192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro)
  #/cdrom 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro)
  /usr/src  *.thuis.nl(rw)
  /home/mbr/download  *.thuis.nl(rw)
  #/mnt/cdrom2*.thuis.nl(ro)
  #/mnt/cdrom3*.thuis.nl(ro)
  #,no_root_squash)
  
  SuSE machine:
  /var/log/messages (during init):
  
  nfs_read_super: get root fattr failed
  nfsd_fh_init : initialized fhcache, entries=512
  nfs: RPC call returned error 111
  RPC: task of released request still queued!
  RPC: (task is on xprt_pending)
  nfs_read_super: get root fattr failed 
  
  /etc/fstab:
  
  XXLTurboSlakkie:/usr/src/linux /usr/src/linux nfs 
noauto,nosuid,rsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,retry=1,bg,retrans=1,soft,acregmin=60,acregmax=1
  XXLTurboSlakkie:/home/mbr/download /home/mbr/download nfs
  auto,nosuid,bg,soft,retry=1   
  #192.168.0.1:/home/mbr/download /home/mbr/download nfs // this one will also
  fail..
  
  SuSE machine:
  
  root@TurboRouter:/etc  knfsstat
  Server rpc stats:
  calls  badcalls   badauthbadclntxdrcall
  0  0  0  0  0
  Server nfs v2:
  null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
   
  Client rpc stats:
  calls  retransauthrefrsh
  0  0  0
  Client nfs v2:
  null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
  0   0% 2  100% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%  
   
  
  Mandrake machine:
  
  [root@XXLTurboSlakkie mbr]# /usr/sbin/nfsstat
  Server rpc stats:
  calls  badcalls   badauthbadclntxdrcall
  0  0  0  0  0
  Server nfs v2:
  null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
   
  Client rpc stats:
  calls  retransauthrefrsh
  37 2  0
  Client nfs v2:
  null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
  0   0% 5  13% 0   0% 0   0% 26 70% 0   0%
  read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 6  16% 0   0%

  root@TurboRouter:/etc  mount -a
  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 
XXLTurboSlakkie::/usr/src/linux,
  or too many mounted file systems  
  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
  192.168.0.1:/home/mbr/download,or too many mounted file systems 
  
  Anyone an idea what's going on?
  
  Cheers,
  -- 
  /* Manuël Beunder. (aka MBr) 
  - http://how.to/sblive the SB Live! Linux page -
  'You must be the change you wish to see in this world. -Gandi' */
 
 I've been having the same problem (one machine is able to mount, the other
 machine is not) and am avidly awaiting the replies hoping to learn what the
 problem is. My systems at present are both LM 7.1.

So, it seems to be having something to do, with using spaces iso tabs in
/etc/exports, maybe this will help...

New problem with nfs (client/server both running 2.2.16 with build in nfs
client/server support):

I've putten this into /etc/exports:(server machine)

# See exports(5) for a description.
# This file contains a list of all

Re: [expert] NFS mounts fail

2000-07-07 Thread Manuël Beunder

On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote:
 "Manuël Beunder" wrote:
 
  I seem to have a problem between two NFS server, mounting each others stuff,
  the one is a SuSE6.1 machine running 2.2.16 (same with 2.2.13) and the other a
  Mandrake 7.0 machine, running 2.2.16 (same with 2.4.0test2) as well. Mounts
  located on the SuSE machine to the Mandrake machine work just fine, but
  v.v.: nogo..
 
  on the Mandrake machine:
  /etc/exports:
 
   See exports(5) for a description.
  # This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers.
  # It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd.
  #/usr/src/linux 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro)
  #,no_root_squash)
  #/usr/doc   192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro)
  #/cdrom 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro)
  /usr/src  *.thuis.nl(rw)
  /home/mbr/download  *.thuis.nl(rw)
  #/mnt/cdrom2*.thuis.nl(ro)
  #/mnt/cdrom3*.thuis.nl(ro)
  #,no_root_squash)
 
  SuSE machine:
  /var/log/messages (during init):
 
  nfs_read_super: get root fattr failed
  nfsd_fh_init : initialized fhcache, entries=512
  nfs: RPC call returned error 111
  RPC: task of released request still queued!
  RPC: (task is on xprt_pending)
  nfs_read_super: get root fattr failed
 
  /etc/fstab:
 
  XXLTurboSlakkie:/usr/src/linux /usr/src/linux nfs 
noauto,nosuid,rsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,retry=1,bg,retrans=1,soft,acregmin=60,acregmax=1
  XXLTurboSlakkie:/home/mbr/download /home/mbr/download nfs
  auto,nosuid,bg,soft,retry=1
  #192.168.0.1:/home/mbr/download /home/mbr/download nfs // this one will also
  fail..
 
  SuSE machine:
 
  root@TurboRouter:/etc  knfsstat
  Server rpc stats:
  calls  badcalls   badauthbadclntxdrcall
  0  0  0  0  0
  Server nfs v2:
  null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
 
  Client rpc stats:
  calls  retransauthrefrsh
  0  0  0
  Client nfs v2:
  null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
  0   0% 2  100% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
 
  Mandrake machine:
 
  [root@XXLTurboSlakkie mbr]# /usr/sbin/nfsstat
  Server rpc stats:
  calls  badcalls   badauthbadclntxdrcall
  0  0  0  0  0
  Server nfs v2:
  null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
 
  Client rpc stats:
  calls  retransauthrefrsh
  37 2  0
  Client nfs v2:
  null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
  0   0% 5  13% 0   0% 0   0% 26 70% 0   0%
  read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
  link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
  0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 6  16% 0   0%
 
  root@TurboRouter:/etc  mount -a
  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 
XXLTurboSlakkie::/usr/src/linux,
  or too many mounted file systems
  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
  192.168.0.1:/home/mbr/download,or too many mounted file systems
 
  Anyone an idea what's going on?
 
  Cheers,
  --
  /* Manuël Beunder. (aka MBr)
  - http://how.to/sblive the SB Live! Linux page -
  'You must be the change you wish to see in this world. -Gandi' */
 
 Check /var/log/messages on the mandrake machine right after an attempted mount.
 
 The wildcards may ne causing problems, try writing out each host followed by (rw) 
followed by one space for those you want to access a mount
 point.  End each of those mount point lines with two spaces and a \n (newline).  
Make certain those hostnames resolve in  /etc/hosts and in
 /etc/hosts.allow
 
 Works for me.
 
 Civileme

I didn't quite get what you were saying, but replacing the spaces by a single
tab, fixed the problem (duh)...
These are just those things, that drive you crazy sometimes... (had been
experimenting with NBD as well and just installed a new kernel as well)

Cheers,
-- 
/* Manuël Beunder. (aka MBr) 
- http://how.to/sblive the SB L

[expert] NFS mounts fail

2000-07-06 Thread Manuël Beunder

I seem to have a problem between two NFS server, mounting each others stuff,
the one is a SuSE6.1 machine running 2.2.16 (same with 2.2.13) and the other a
Mandrake 7.0 machine, running 2.2.16 (same with 2.4.0test2) as well. Mounts
located on the SuSE machine to the Mandrake machine work just fine, but
v.v.: nogo..

on the Mandrake machine:
/etc/exports:

 See exports(5) for a description.
# This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers.
# It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd.
#/usr/src/linux 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro)
#,no_root_squash)
#/usr/doc   192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro)
#/cdrom 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro)
/usr/src  *.thuis.nl(rw)
/home/mbr/download  *.thuis.nl(rw)
#/mnt/cdrom2*.thuis.nl(ro)
#/mnt/cdrom3*.thuis.nl(ro)
#,no_root_squash)

SuSE machine:
/var/log/messages (during init):

nfs_read_super: get root fattr failed
nfsd_fh_init : initialized fhcache, entries=512
nfs: RPC call returned error 111
RPC: task of released request still queued!
RPC: (task is on xprt_pending)
nfs_read_super: get root fattr failed 

/etc/fstab:

XXLTurboSlakkie:/usr/src/linux /usr/src/linux nfs 
noauto,nosuid,rsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,retry=1,bg,retrans=1,soft,acregmin=60,acregmax=1
XXLTurboSlakkie:/home/mbr/download /home/mbr/download nfs
auto,nosuid,bg,soft,retry=1   
#192.168.0.1:/home/mbr/download /home/mbr/download nfs // this one will also
fail..

SuSE machine:

root@TurboRouter:/etc  knfsstat
Server rpc stats:
calls  badcalls   badauthbadclntxdrcall
0  0  0  0  0
Server nfs v2:
null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
 
Client rpc stats:
calls  retransauthrefrsh
0  0  0
Client nfs v2:
null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
0   0% 2  100% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%  
   

Mandrake machine:

[root@XXLTurboSlakkie mbr]# /usr/sbin/nfsstat
Server rpc stats:
calls  badcalls   badauthbadclntxdrcall
0  0  0  0  0
Server nfs v2:
null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
 
Client rpc stats:
calls  retransauthrefrsh
37 2  0
Client nfs v2:
null   getattrsetattrroot   lookup readlink
0   0% 5  13% 0   0% 0   0% 26 70% 0   0%
read   wrcachewrite  create remove rename
0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0%
link   symlinkmkdir  rmdir  readdirfsstat
0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 0   0% 6  16% 0   0%
  
root@TurboRouter:/etc  mount -a
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on XXLTurboSlakkie::/usr/src/linux,   
 
or too many mounted file systems  
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
192.168.0.1:/home/mbr/download,or too many mounted file systems 

Anyone an idea what's going on?

Cheers,
-- 
/* Manuël Beunder. (aka MBr) 
- http://how.to/sblive the SB Live! Linux page -
'You must be the change you wish to see in this world. -Gandi' */




[expert] Problems with multiple overlay Flashmovies with Netscape 4.7 Flash4 plugin (Mandrake 7.0)

2000-07-04 Thread Manuël Beunder

Hi, 
There seems to be a problem with sites when using Netscape 4.7 (delivered with
Mandrake 4.7) and the Flash4 plugin, when it comes to sites who use multi
Flash-movies in an overlay.. Anyone an idea how to work around this? (If
nessairy, the webmaster can alter the content of the site:
http://www.brothers.nl)

Cheers,
-- 
/* Manuël Beunder. (aka MBr) 
- http://how.to/sblive the SB Live! Linux page -
'You must be the change you wish to see in this world. -Gandi' */




Re: [expert] X 4, PPP, and Emu10k1

2000-07-04 Thread Manuël Beunder

On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote:
 Seanmay I share with you a short description of my
 approach to running new versions of Linux-Mandrake that I
 believe saves me from the kind of frustration that you are
 experiencing?
 
 I'm running my computer on 7.1, but my 7.0 installation still
 exists on the same hard drive as 7.1 is on and if something
 happens, even something cataclysmic, with my 7.1 installation
 I can immediately boot up on my old 7.0 installation and
 continue where I left off a month ago.
 
 When I installed 7.1 I did a new install on fresh partitions,
 not an upgrade over my old 7.0 installation.  Then, after
 testing out the new 7.1 installation, I copied my 7.0 /home
 and /root directories to the 7.1 file system and reinstalled
 any extra software that still didn't work (/user  /opt stuff
 mainly).  
 
 After that I began to use the new 7.1 installation daily and
 abandoned the old 7.0 installation.  But it's still there in
 case I need it and I'll leave it there till I erase the
 partitions and install 7.2 in its place. 
 
 It took me a couple of hours to get 7.1 up to speed with my
 personal stuff, but at any time, if a problem would have
 occurred I could have simply gone back to my intact 7.0
 system.  I've been doing it this way (with some refinements)
 since version 5.2.  I've never done an upgrade (too many
 horror stories).

You could always spawn a copy of your distro with dd and 'experiment'
on that copy.. 

(But I still have a copy of SuSE6.1 (which I didn't upgrade from
my SuSE5.3 install) and RedHat 6.0 running as well, very handy when some stuff
doesn't wants to compile etc.. just love locatedb, just hack/copy/steal  go..
;-)

 
 Alan
 
 
 Sean Middleditch wrote:
 [snip]
 [snip]
  Sorry for attitude, but for the last few days I've been seriously wishing
  I just kept my Mandrake 7.0 installation.. MDK 7.0 was the best, and 7.1 is
  really not impressing me.  Again, sorry.  I'll try and calm down a bit next
  time... :)  Not your guys' fault, I know.
  
  Sean Middleditch

Cheers,
-- 
/* Manuël Beunder. (aka MBr) 
- http://how.to/sblive the SB Live! Linux page -
'You must be the change you wish to see in this world. -Gandi' */




Re: [expert] UDMA66 problem

2000-07-02 Thread Manuël Beunder

On Sat, 01 Jul 2000, you wrote:
 Dave Cotton wrote:
  
  I also have spent a frustrating week with UDMA problems including a
  totally unreadable disk (corrupted superblock).
  With Mandrake 7.0 and a UDMA 33 motherboard HDPARM reported 16MB/s with
  my WD205AA now with 7.1 this is down to less than 5MB/s. With the drive
  on my UDMA66 motherboard this drops to 3.5MB/s If I use DMA etc. I get a
  corrupted superblock. I cut the speed of the bus by 5% and that seems to
  have stopped the corruption.
  If you run hdparm -t /dev/hda with dma set there is a stream of seek and
  crc errors until the system resets the controller and disables dma.
  
  My question is what is your processor and motherboard. I have AMD 400
  and 500s and DFI P5BV3+ and K6XV3+/66 mbs.
  
 
  Dave Cotton
  Linux Autrement
  Avignon France
  +33 (0)4 90 16 07 89
 
 
 If you search the archives for UDMA66 problems, you will find
 most complaints involve WD drives.  There is a reason.  WD drives
 have unusual timing requirements.  7.1 is the first MAndrake
 distro to support UDMA66 out of the box, and the timing might be
 a little too tight for the WDs.  Also, WD does not actually use
 Cyclic Redundancy Check (CRC) protocol but rather fakes it and
 blows it off.  The result is that there is nothing in the HDD
 hardware/firmware to block a data stream corrupted by timing
 chatter from being written to disk.
 
 THere is a program that sets WD drives for UDMA66 available for
 DL from WD, which might(tm) help.
 
 In the mean time, on kernel traffic, the discussion crops up from
 time to time that a possible solution is to restrict WD drives to
 PIO upon recognition.  No conclusion has been reached, but the
 fact that such discussion is taking place should indicate
 something to everyone. 
 
 Civileme
 
 And of course Promise has actually made a driver available for
 the HPT366 in source code.  The driver may still need a few bugs
 located, but the future looks brighter for stable UDMA66.

Promise making a Linux driver for Highpoint, err???

Cheers,
-- 
/* Manuël Beunder. (aka MBr) 
- http://how.to/sblive the SB Live! Linux page -
'You must be the change you wish to see in this world. -Gandi' */




[expert] ATA/33-ATA66 HPT366 black list

2000-07-01 Thread Manuël Beunder

From /usr/src/linux/drivers/block/ide-dma.c

/*
 * bad_dma_drives() lists the model names (from "hdparm -i")
 * of drives which supposedly support (U)DMA but which are
 * known to corrupt data with this interface under Linux.
 *
 * This is an empirical list. Its generated from bug reports. That means
 * while it reflects actual problem distributions it doesn't answer whether
 * the drive or the controller, or cabling, or software, or some combination
 * thereof is the fault. If you don't happen to agree with the kernel's 
 * opinion of your drive - use hdparm to turn DMA on.
 */
const char *bad_dma_drives[] = {"WDC AC11000H",
"WDC AC22100H",
"WDC AC32100H",
"WDC AC32500H",
"WDC AC33100H",
"WDC AC31600H",
NULL};

(WDC = Western Digital Corporation)

From /usr/src/linux/drivers/block/ide-dma.c

const char *bad_ata66_4[] = {
"WDC AC310200R",
NULL
};

const char *bad_ata66_3[] = {
"WDC AC310200R",
NULL
};

const char *bad_ata33[] = {
"Maxtor 92720U8", "Maxtor 92040U6", "Maxtor 91360U4", "Maxtor 91020U3", 
"Maxtor 90845U3", "Maxtor 90650U2",
"Maxtor 91360D8", "Maxtor 91190D7", "Maxtor 91020D6", "Maxtor 90845D5", 
"Maxtor 90680D4", "Maxtor 90510D3", "Maxtor 90340D2",
"Maxtor 91152D8", "Maxtor 91008D7", "Maxtor 90845D6", "Maxtor 90840D6", 
"Maxtor 90720D5", "Maxtor 90648D5", "Maxtor 90576D4",
"Maxtor 90510D4",
"Maxtor 90432D3", "Maxtor 90288D2", "Maxtor 90256D2",
"Maxtor 91000D8", "Maxtor 90910D8", "Maxtor 90875D7", "Maxtor 90840D7", 
"Maxtor 90750D6", "Maxtor 90625D5", "Maxtor 90500D4",
"Maxtor 91728D8", "Maxtor 91512D7", "Maxtor 91303D6", "Maxtor 91080D5", 
"Maxtor 90845D4", "Maxtor 90680D4", "Maxtor 90648D3", "Maxtor 90432D2",
NULL
};

(afaik in xUn U stands for UDMA/66, D for UDMA(/33)

I hope this gives a better overview to people, which drives not to buy/use with
the Highpoint HPT366 (Abit HotRod) in UDMA/33 UDMA/66 mode

Cheers,
-- 
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- http://how.to/sblive the SB Live! Linux page -
'You must be the change you wish to see in this world. -Gandi' */




Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 and BP6 hard drive optimizations

2000-07-01 Thread Manuël Beunder
 0220-022f : soundblaster
   0330-0333 : MPU-401 UART
   0376-0376 : ide1
   0388-038b : Yamaha OPL3
   03c0-03df : vga+
   03f6-03f6 : ide0
   03f8-03ff : serial(auto)
   a400-a41f : eth1
   a800-a8ff : eth0
   ac00-acfe : aic7xxx
   b000-b007 : ide2
   b402-b402 : ide2
   b800-b807 : ide2
   b810-b8ff : HPT366
   c400-c407 : ide3
   c410-c4ff : HPT366
   f000-f007 : ide0
   f008-f00f : ide1
  
  
   If anyone can help me with this one I will send you a six pack of your favorite
   beer (provided you are of age of course :-).
  
   Thanks
   Paul
 
 recompile for 386 code, kernel and driver.
 
 The Seagate IDE drive is marginal at the timing and signal gating
 requirements of 586 code and often locks up.  So do MOST WDs,
 though some of them will work without the Xxx parm and often run
 close to the UDMA66 speed required.
 
 Read kernel traffic in February to learn why.  It has to do with
 the fact that drive and chipset mfgrs are assuming timing for 386
 code instead of the "official" specs for the interface, and 586
 code timing is tighter, hence reflections on signal gating lines
 that should NOT be there are being observed.
 
 IBMs, Maxtors, and Quantums in the same position on the same
 board seem to work just fine.
 

Err, unfortiunatly no, both Diamond Max 6800 ATA/33  ATA/66 series (eg.
91000D8, 91360U4), seem to be affected with timing issues as well, on the
HPT366... (though they seem to work okay on the Promise Ultra66 (PDC 20262).
I also own an ATA/33 Seagate ST36531A with screwy DMA transfers on the HPT366
as well :-( 


 Civileme

Cheers,
-- 
/* Manuël Beunder. (aka MBr) 
- http://how.to/sblive the SB Live! Linux page -
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Re: [expert] ATA/100 Fails

2000-07-01 Thread Manuël Beunder

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote:
 Gee, this must be a new bug.
 
 My brand new Duron Board won't work with ATA/100 on
 Mandrake 7.1  (of course it won't work at ATA 100 with
 RH, Caldera, FreeBSD, Windows (any flavor) or BeOS
 either)
 
 Where are these guys at?  The Duron and ATA
 motherboards came out, available for sale on June 15
 and no distro, not even Mandrake, supports them.  It
 has been TWO WHOLE WEEKS
 
 And I had to search 28 vendors to find an ATA/100
 drive, too ;-P
 
 
 Where do I sent the Bug reports?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Hedrick)

 
 Yes I really do have a Duron and I really do have
 ATA/100 rated equipment.  I'll let you know in a few
 days whether it works at ATA 66 which is what I am
 shooting for.  I just could not resist poking a bit of
 fun at the folks who thing UDMA66 not working out of
 the box is Mandrake's fault.  There are too many
 variables to assume that.
 
 I frankly don't see any advantage to ATA/100 except if
 you buy stuff rated for 100 it might actually work
 stably at 66.

Frankly, I also don't see any advantage of ATA/66 over ATA/33 (unless you are
running a RAID config..) 

 
 Civileme

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[expert] backgrounding NFS mount

2000-07-01 Thread Manuël Beunder

Hi,

I use the next line in fstab to nfs-mount a cd-rom of my linux router box,
the only problem is, that the router isn't online all the time and than it
takes ages at startup / shutdown of the system to time-out..
How can I create a real background mount, so my init scripts won't be blocked
by this?

fstab:
TurboRouter:/cdrom /mnt/nfs_cdrom nfs 
nosuid,rsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,retry=1,bg,retrans=1,soft,acregmin=60,acregmax=1

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Re: [expert] UDMA66 problem

2000-06-30 Thread Manuël Beunder

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote:
 I am wondering what the normal speed for UDMA66? I just got about 
 14M/second, as fast as UDMA33.

What do you mean with "normal-speed"?
What are the normal speeds of a 5-lane and a 3-lane highway? I dunno.. it
depends..

A drive that only supports ATA/33 which runs at 7200 rpm can easily outrun a
drive that supports ATA/66 which runs at 5400 rpm (provided they have the
same amount of cache on the drive's internal controller).
An ATA/66 drive that run on 7200 rpm, with only 256kb cache (WD), can easily be
outrun by a ATA/66 drive (running in ATA/33) mode that runs on 5400 rpm with an
optimized 2048kb cache.. (Maxtor).

Just because newer generation drives often run faster than older drives and
also support ATA/66 or ATA/100, doesn't mean ATA/66 drives are by default
faster than ATA/33, because those two facts are not related.

ATA/66 is only interresting in ATA-RAID configurations and I haven't seen a
drive yet, who can some close to 33MiB/s data-transfer speed
(ATA/33) (burst-speeds not accounted, but they are not interresting for the
overal performance..) 

 
 
 From: Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] UDMA66 problem
 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:09:30 -0800
 
 Philippe Wautelet wrote:
 
   Civileme wrote:
  
7.0 didn't really support UDMA/66 without a lot of tweaking.  My guess 
 is
that your WD drive cannot do UDMA66 even though it was advertised to 
 do
such.
  
   Not impossible, but my drive doesn't work with any DMA mode in 7.1 (and
   it worked
   in 7.0 and in MSWindows).
  
   Another question directly related to that problem is what are the
   software or
   config files which have or could have an influence on the drive
   performances?
   I'm nearly certain that my problem doesn't come from the kernel. I know
   also
   that it's not hdparm (I tried the version included in 7.0).
  
   Philippe
 
 Actually the big change, AFAIK, is that UDMA66 is set up to work out of the
 box.
 
 This would suggest that it is specific to the HPT366 Controller/WD setup.
 
 Go to http://forum.mandrakesoft.com and look under UDMA66 Solved.  I think 
 you
 might yet be able to make it work, though it might not work at 66.  I 
 wasn't
 joking yesterday.  I am really buying ATA/100 equipment to see if it will 
 work
 at ATA/66.
 
 And even if it does work at 66, the missing error-checking feature would 
 make
 me distrust my own system.  WD drives really do blow off the CRC.
 
 So what is your board--Is the HPT366 integral or a card?
 
 Civileme
 
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] UDMA66 problem

2000-06-30 Thread Manuël Beunder

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, you wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've got a WD136BA hard disk on my hpt366 controller. If I try to use
 DMA for disk access, my system freezes. This problem didn't exist with
 Mandrake 7.0, but it appeared when I installed 7.1. I tried to upgrade
 my bios. Nothing changed. After that, I compiled another kernel
 (2.3.45). Same problem. I compiled 2.2.15 and 2.3.45 in 386 code instead
 of 586. Always the same problem.
 

DMA support is very buggy, to say at least, for the Promise ata66 (PDC 20262)
and Abit HotRod (Highpoint hpt366). This is especially true for ATA-pi devices.
Your best bet would be, to put your regular CD-ROM player, ZIP-drive and other
devices that won't really need DMA support on your ata-66 compatible controller
and put your other devices (HD's, CDR's, DVD-players) on your main (Intel)
controller. (Don't forget that some ATA/66 compatible HD's (Like Maxtor)
required to be set to ATA/33 in the firmware, in order to function properly...)

Mandrake 7.0 didn't had DMA support for the hpt366, afaik, so that's why you
didn't ran into trouble..


 
 Philippe

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Re: [expert] Promise ATA-66

2000-06-16 Thread Manuël Beunder

On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, you wrote:
 tal amir wrote:
  
  Yes it is  :-)
  
   Original Message 
  
  On 6/15/00, 2:35:45 PM, "Cecil Watson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
  regarding [expert] Promise ATA-66:
  
   Is the Promise ATA-66 supported in 7.1?  Thanks in advance,
  
   Cecil
 
 
 Yes, it is, BUT
 
 ABIT B_6 boards require special LILO settings for their
 installation on ATA66 to work properly

Not correct, I use LILO without any options, just make a ~10MB boot partition
and mount it under /boot and install LILO on it (when using older LILO
versions, make sure it is located beneath the 1024th cilinder).
Also, using the special LILO reverse options, can render some troubles with
some PCI cards / SCSI controllers, like eg. the SB Live! (not sure if that is
fixed now).

 
 Anything but the newest WD disks will give you all sorts of
 errors if you set them to DMA/UDMA

Also using DMA for ATA-pi devices for the Highpoint HPT366 (HotRod) or Promise
20262 is not advisable (for playing DVD etc.). So make sure your DMA using
ATA-pi devices are located on the Intel controller. Also many Maxtor drives
won't work properly on the non-intel ATA66 controllers, the best option is to
reprogram the drives to ATA33 and put them on the Intel controller.

 
 Some board chipsets do not work well with the PCI controller
 card.
 
 So, knowing those things, prepare for an education in BIOSes and
 HDDs and Disk controllers if you are in the 40% who need to do
 special things.
 
 Civileme

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