Re: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems

2000-12-08 Thread Jeff Malka

Adding W2 did it.

Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  I think it takes a W1 and an
  S??? command in the init string.
  
  
 
 S95=1 will report the true modem speed.
 
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RE: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems

2000-12-07 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS

Check your manual. On my Supra 56k I have C1D2W2. The W2 is what
reports my true connection speed.

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OK the 33 is back in and huming along.  The 56K went back to the store.
Thanks.

Is there a way to force linux (Kppp) to show the true connections speed for
my 33 modem?

Thanks.

Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user  183185

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From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems


 On Wednesday 06 December 2000 06:03 am, Jeff Malka wrote:
  I just purchased a 3Com US Robotics 56K Faxmodem (V.90 and x2).

model # ?
  My
  Mandrake 7.2 installation finds the modem and connects with it but
  connection is at 26400 baud.
 
  It is not the phone lines because my old 33K modem (that it is
  supposed to replace) connects at 115000.

 115k wasn't your connection speed. It's the speed that your modem
 communicates with your system, not the rate it communicates with the
 modem you connect to.  More often than not, when the phone lines will
 only support 28,8, an old 33,6 modem will consistently get better
 connection speeds (often 31,2) than most any 56k modem (often 26,4).
 Put the 33,6 modem back in ;
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Re: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems

2000-12-07 Thread ibi

Hi Jeff,

I don't know if you can force Linux to show you a true connect 
speed or not, but if you are curious you can look in the modem 
logs. 26.4 to 28.8 is a very normal connect speed with a 33.6 using 
an ISP that is not digital. Even with digital you won't see much 
difference maybe a bump to 31.2. The only way to avoid the phone 
line 28.8 trap is to use satellite, cable or DSL connections. 

Pj 



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[expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems

2000-12-06 Thread Jeff Malka

I just purchased a 3Com US Robotics 56K Faxmodem (V.90 and x2).  My Mandrake
7.2 installation finds the modem and connects with it but connection is at
26400 baud.

It is not the phone lines because my old 33K modem (that it is supposed to
replace) connects at 115000.  Could it be that the v.90 and x2 protocols
need to be installed under linux and have not?  There is no linux mentioned
on the CD that came with the modem.

Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems

2000-12-06 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS

Sounds like the new modem is acting just fine, and the problem may
be within your lines. 115000 is what your modem will show provided
you set it for max connection rate of 115000. Certain modems
require in the init string W2 (for my Supra) to show the correct
speed, and not the max set by your dialer.

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From: Jeff Malka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:03 AM
To: expert mandrake
Subject: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems


I just purchased a 3Com US Robotics 56K Faxmodem (V.90 and x2).  My Mandrake
7.2 installation finds the modem and connects with it but connection is at
26400 baud.

It is not the phone lines because my old 33K modem (that it is supposed to
replace) connects at 115000.  Could it be that the v.90 and x2 protocols
need to be installed under linux and have not?  There is no linux mentioned
on the CD that came with the modem.

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Re: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems

2000-12-06 Thread Ken Thompson

On Wednesday 06 December 2000 05:03 am, you wrote:

  I just purchased a 3Com US Robotics 56K Faxmodem (V.90 and x2).  My
 Mandrake 7.2 installation finds the modem and connects with it but
 connection is at 26400 baud.

 It is not the phone lines because my old 33K modem (that it is supposed to
 replace) connects at 115000.  Could it be that the v.90 and x2 protocols
 need to be installed under linux and have not?  There is no linux mentioned
 on the CD that came with the modem.

Jeff,
For what it's worth, 56K modems will connect at a lower speed than 33.6K 
modems if there is an incompatibility (as there usually is) in the ISP's 
modem bank. It seems that ALL of the ISP's in this area have modem banks that 
will revert to the V.34 spec's if they are unable to establish a good connect 
with V.90. I suspect that this is your problem. I have been scrounging 33.6 
hardware modems anywhere I can find them because both my Linux and Winderz 
boxes connect faster and more reliably when using them.

-- 
Ken Thompson
Electrocom Computer Services
Payette, Idaho
(208) 642-7101  (888) 642-7101
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: http://www.nwaa.com



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Re: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems

2000-12-06 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday 06 December 2000 06:03 am, Jeff Malka wrote:
 I just purchased a 3Com US Robotics 56K Faxmodem (V.90 and x2). 

   model # ?
 My
 Mandrake 7.2 installation finds the modem and connects with it but
 connection is at 26400 baud.

 It is not the phone lines because my old 33K modem (that it is
 supposed to replace) connects at 115000. 

115k wasn't your connection speed. It's the speed that your modem 
communicates with your system, not the rate it communicates with the 
modem you connect to.  More often than not, when the phone lines will 
only support 28,8, an old 33,6 modem will consistently get better 
connection speeds (often 31,2) than most any 56k modem (often 26,4).
Put the 33,6 modem back in ; 
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




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Re: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems

2000-12-06 Thread Ron Stodden

Jeff Malka wrote:
 
 It is not the phone lines because my old 33K modem (that it is supposed to
 replace) connects at 115000.  Could it be that the v.90 and x2 protocols
 need to be installed under linux and have not?  There is no linux mentioned
 on the CD that came with the modem.

If you saw 115200, then the link speed between the PC and the modem
is being reported.  This is the default.   If you want your modem to
report the modem to modem link speed you must fiddle with the modem
init string according to your manual.  I think it takes a W1 and an
S??? command in the init string.

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Re: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems

2000-12-06 Thread Jeff Malka

Fascinating.  Good to know.  Thanks.

I don't need any but I saw a bunch of 33K modems at compusa.

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- Original Message -
From: Ken Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems


 On Wednesday 06 December 2000 05:03 am, you wrote:

   I just purchased a 3Com US Robotics 56K Faxmodem (V.90 and x2).  My
  Mandrake 7.2 installation finds the modem and connects with it but
  connection is at 26400 baud.
 
  It is not the phone lines because my old 33K modem (that it is supposed
to
  replace) connects at 115000.  Could it be that the v.90 and x2 protocols
  need to be installed under linux and have not?  There is no linux
mentioned
  on the CD that came with the modem.

 Jeff,
 For what it's worth, 56K modems will connect at a lower speed than 33.6K
 modems if there is an incompatibility (as there usually is) in the ISP's
 modem bank. It seems that ALL of the ISP's in this area have modem banks
that
 will revert to the V.34 spec's if they are unable to establish a good
connect
 with V.90. I suspect that this is your problem. I have been scrounging
33.6
 hardware modems anywhere I can find them because both my Linux and Winderz
 boxes connect faster and more reliably when using them.

 --
 Ken Thompson
 Electrocom Computer Services
 Payette, Idaho
 (208) 642-7101  (888) 642-7101
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Website: http://www.nwaa.com








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Re: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems

2000-12-06 Thread Jeff Malka

OK the 33 is back in and huming along.  The 56K went back to the store.
Thanks.

Is there a way to force linux (Kppp) to show the true connections speed for
my 33 modem?

Thanks.

Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user  183185

- Original Message -
From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems


 On Wednesday 06 December 2000 06:03 am, Jeff Malka wrote:
  I just purchased a 3Com US Robotics 56K Faxmodem (V.90 and x2).

model # ?
  My
  Mandrake 7.2 installation finds the modem and connects with it but
  connection is at 26400 baud.
 
  It is not the phone lines because my old 33K modem (that it is
  supposed to replace) connects at 115000.

 115k wasn't your connection speed. It's the speed that your modem
 communicates with your system, not the rate it communicates with the
 modem you connect to.  More often than not, when the phone lines will
 only support 28,8, an old 33,6 modem will consistently get better
 connection speeds (often 31,2) than most any 56k modem (often 26,4).
 Put the 33,6 modem back in ;
 --
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Re: [expert] 3Com US Robotics 56K faxmodem problems

2000-12-06 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday 06 December 2000 05:10 pm, Jeff Malka wrote:
 OK the 33 is back in and huming along.  The 56K went back to the
 store. Thanks.

 Is there a way to force linux (Kppp) to show the true connections
 speed for my 33 modem?

Well, every Kppp version I've ever used since Mdk 6.0, clk on the 
docked modem lights on the panel and a details/disconnect dialog box 
pops up that also shows the connection speed. Also you can check the 
'show log' box on Kppp and the debug window will show the connect speed 
briefly before it diappears.
Sort'a, that's the connection handshake speed with the ISP.  True 
connection speeds are what you can download at, from the site you're 
downloading from.  A decent sustained rate for 28,8 is 3.3K/sec, for 
31,2 - 3.6K/sec if you don't have too many stalls.  If you really 
want to monitor the connection speed, click on the panel lights (as 
above) and choose 'details'  You'll see a running avg and a graph of 
the connection.  
   Also many download butlers (my favorite is nt-1.19-1mdk.i586.rpm,
it's in /contrib/) show the download rate/avg/and time over multiple 
downloads. NT shows this and a graph, plus it's the simplest damn best 
workin downloader i've ever used. Supports retries and resumes. 'Bout 
the only configuration it needs is to tell it what dir you want the 
dl'd files put in ;) 
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