Re: [expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)
My understanding is that there is a boot sector on each partition, and a master boot record on each disk, so if the mbr is empty, the machine boots from the active partition's boot sector. In my case, lilo is in the mbr, and gives me the option of booting the NT loader in hda1's boot sector, or linux from hda2. That's the way I always thought it worked, and it is consistent with my experience, but I've never researched it, so if anyone knows better, I'm open to correction. Trevor On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, you wrote: > > Trevor, if NT is not using MBR, then my question is how does the machine know how > to go to NT loader when you do a single boot, without Linux, to your NT OS? And if > you install Lilo to MBR, how are you getting back to boot into NT? Your thoughts on > that would be very interesting.. > > Craig > > Trevor Farrell wrote: > > > Funny, but I have never had this problem with NT/Linux dual booting on my > > machine at work. AFAIK, NT doesn't use the MBR, as I have lilo in the MBR and > > NT still boots as usual. If this is correct, then a fdisk/mbr is all you need > > to do to correct your NT problem, but you still need to fix your linux system, > > and without a boot disk... > > > > Trevor > > (formerly [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >
Re: [expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)
NT uses the MBR the way MS always has - just a pointer to the actual boot code. When you install LILO in the MBR, it sets its own pointer to NT's boot code, so when lilo comes up you can select "dos" (or whatever you named it, it was "dos" by default on my machine) and lilo will jump to NT's boot loader. --- Craig Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trevor, if NT is not using MBR, then my question is how does the machine > know how > to go to NT loader when you do a single boot, without Linux, to your NT OS? > And if > you install Lilo to MBR, how are you getting back to boot into NT? Your > thoughts on > that would be very interesting.. > > Craig > > Trevor Farrell wrote: > > > Funny, but I have never had this problem with NT/Linux dual booting on my > > machine at work. AFAIK, NT doesn't use the MBR, as I have lilo in the MBR > and > > NT still boots as usual. If this is correct, then a fdisk/mbr is all you > need > > to do to correct your NT problem, but you still need to fix your linux > system, > > and without a boot disk... > > > > Trevor > > (formerly [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, you wrote: > Get your NT installation cd. > > If it is NT 4, on another machine create > the three boot floppies for > NT. Then > > boot from those floppies, with NT in > the cdrom drive. It will ask you > if you > > want to repair a previous NT > installation. That is what you want to > do. > > > > > > i've never done this. Good luck. > > > > > > wade > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Joseph S Gardner wrote: > > > > > > > Ok, after banging head on keyboard I've decided to ask for help. > > > > > > > > I tried installing 7.0-2 on a 6x85 MX 200 that already had NT on it. > > > > I added a 3rd HD and dedicated it entirely to linux leaving the first > > > > 2 alone (silly me) hoping to dual boot. > > > > > > > > Well all was going well until I went to configure X and when I > > > > selected my monitor (Magnvox 17" with a Diamond Stealth ll S200) it > > > > dumped bytes all over my lap forcing me to use the big red help > > > > switch. The boot floppy that was created has some type of error on > > > > it and it won't complete the boot and somehow or another the MBR on > > > > the NT disk's are amuck now and I can't even reboot into that. > > > > > > > > I need to get the MBR back on the NT disks and at this point my brain > > > > is fried and don't know where to look. Any pointers? > > > > > > > > If memory serves my I need to run fdisk MBR but am unsure if this > > > > works with NT (with NTFS) and don't want to screw things up any > > > > further than I already have. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Lee & Trevor Farrell > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > begin:vcard > n:Woods;Craig > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > org:Celtic Pride, Inc.;Client/Server Technology > adr:;; > version:2.1 > email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > title:IT Consultant > x-mozilla-cpt:;-29408 > fn:Craig Woods > end:vcard > = Mage Grimau, Strange Unwashed & Somewhat Slightly Dazed VoiceMail/Fax: 1-651-328-1145 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
Re: [expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)
Yes, that's right. ntldr (NT Loader) resides on NT's partition, so you can use whatever boot loader you like in the MBR. A DOS MBR will just pick up on the active partition, so setting NT's partition to active (which it should be already) and running "fdisk /mbr" from DOS fdisk will fix the problem. -Matt Stegman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Trevor Farrell wrote: > Funny, but I have never had this problem with NT/Linux dual booting on my > machine at work. AFAIK, NT doesn't use the MBR, as I have lilo in the MBR and > NT still boots as usual. If this is correct, then a fdisk/mbr is all you need > to do to correct your NT problem, but you still need to fix your linux system, > and without a boot disk...
Re: [expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)
Trevor, if NT is not using MBR, then my question is how does the machine know how to go to NT loader when you do a single boot, without Linux, to your NT OS? And if you install Lilo to MBR, how are you getting back to boot into NT? Your thoughts on that would be very interesting.. Craig Trevor Farrell wrote: > Funny, but I have never had this problem with NT/Linux dual booting on my > machine at work. AFAIK, NT doesn't use the MBR, as I have lilo in the MBR and > NT still boots as usual. If this is correct, then a fdisk/mbr is all you need > to do to correct your NT problem, but you still need to fix your linux system, > and without a boot disk... > > Trevor > (formerly [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, you wrote: > Get your NT installation cd. > If it is NT 4, on another machine create > the three boot floppies for NT. Then > boot from those floppies, with NT in > the cdrom drive. It will ask you if you > want to repair a previous NT > installation. That is what you want to do. > > > > i've never done this. Good luck. > > > > wade > > > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Joseph S Gardner wrote: > > > > > Ok, after banging head on keyboard I've decided to ask for help. > > > > > > I tried installing 7.0-2 on a 6x85 MX 200 that already had NT on it. > > > I added a 3rd HD and dedicated it entirely to linux leaving the first > > > 2 alone (silly me) hoping to dual boot. > > > > > > Well all was going well until I went to configure X and when I > > > selected my monitor (Magnvox 17" with a Diamond Stealth ll S200) it > > > dumped bytes all over my lap forcing me to use the big red help > > > switch. The boot floppy that was created has some type of error on > > > it and it won't complete the boot and somehow or another the MBR on > > > the NT disk's are amuck now and I can't even reboot into that. > > > > > > I need to get the MBR back on the NT disks and at this point my brain > > > is fried and don't know where to look. Any pointers? > > > > > > If memory serves my I need to run fdisk MBR but am unsure if this > > > works with NT (with NTFS) and don't want to screw things up any > > > further than I already have. > > > > > > > -- > Lee & Trevor Farrell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard n:Woods;Craig x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Celtic Pride, Inc.;Client/Server Technology adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:IT Consultant x-mozilla-cpt:;-29408 fn:Craig Woods end:vcard
Re: [expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)
Funny, but I have never had this problem with NT/Linux dual booting on my machine at work. AFAIK, NT doesn't use the MBR, as I have lilo in the MBR and NT still boots as usual. If this is correct, then a fdisk/mbr is all you need to do to correct your NT problem, but you still need to fix your linux system, and without a boot disk... Trevor (formerly [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, you wrote: > Get your NT installation cd. If it is NT 4, on another machine create > the three boot floppies for NT. Then boot from those floppies, with NT in > the cdrom drive. It will ask you if you want to repair a previous NT > installation. That is what you want to do. > > i've never done this. Good luck. > > wade > > > > On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Joseph S Gardner wrote: > > > Ok, after banging head on keyboard I've decided to ask for help. > > > > I tried installing 7.0-2 on a 6x85 MX 200 that already had NT on it. > > I added a 3rd HD and dedicated it entirely to linux leaving the first > > 2 alone (silly me) hoping to dual boot. > > > > Well all was going well until I went to configure X and when I > > selected my monitor (Magnvox 17" with a Diamond Stealth ll S200) it > > dumped bytes all over my lap forcing me to use the big red help > > switch. The boot floppy that was created has some type of error on > > it and it won't complete the boot and somehow or another the MBR on > > the NT disk's are amuck now and I can't even reboot into that. > > > > I need to get the MBR back on the NT disks and at this point my brain > > is fried and don't know where to look. Any pointers? > > > > If memory serves my I need to run fdisk MBR but am unsure if this > > works with NT (with NTFS) and don't want to screw things up any > > further than I already have. > > > > -- Lee & Trevor Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)
Bug Hunter wrote: > Get your NT installation cd. If it is NT 4, on another machine create > the three boot floppies for NT. Then boot from those floppies, with NT in > the cdrom drive. It will ask you if you want to repair a previous NT > installation. That is what you want to do. > > i've never done this. Good luck. > > wade > > On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Joseph S Gardner wrote: > > > Ok, after banging head on keyboard I've decided to ask for help. > > > > I tried installing 7.0-2 on a 6x85 MX 200 that already had NT on it. > > I added a 3rd HD and dedicated it entirely to linux leaving the first > > 2 alone (silly me) hoping to dual boot. > > > > Well all was going well until I went to configure X and when I > > selected my monitor (Magnvox 17" with a Diamond Stealth ll S200) it > > dumped bytes all over my lap forcing me to use the big red help > > switch. The boot floppy that was created has some type of error on > > it and it won't complete the boot and somehow or another the MBR on > > the NT disk's are amuck now and I can't even reboot into that. > > > > I need to get the MBR back on the NT disks and at this point my brain > > is fried and don't know where to look. Any pointers? > > > > If memory serves my I need to run fdisk MBR but am unsure if this > > works with NT (with NTFS) and don't want to screw things up any > > further than I already have. > > > > Thanks, I fingered it out. I found an old dos disk ( thank G_d for being a pack rat ) ran "fdisk /mbr" and all was well. BTW this was NTFS disk/partition - go figure. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ #63389227
Re: [expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)
Get your NT installation cd. If it is NT 4, on another machine create the three boot floppies for NT. Then boot from those floppies, with NT in the cdrom drive. It will ask you if you want to repair a previous NT installation. That is what you want to do. i've never done this. Good luck. wade On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Joseph S Gardner wrote: > Ok, after banging head on keyboard I've decided to ask for help. > > I tried installing 7.0-2 on a 6x85 MX 200 that already had NT on it. > I added a 3rd HD and dedicated it entirely to linux leaving the first > 2 alone (silly me) hoping to dual boot. > > Well all was going well until I went to configure X and when I > selected my monitor (Magnvox 17" with a Diamond Stealth ll S200) it > dumped bytes all over my lap forcing me to use the big red help > switch. The boot floppy that was created has some type of error on > it and it won't complete the boot and somehow or another the MBR on > the NT disk's are amuck now and I can't even reboot into that. > > I need to get the MBR back on the NT disks and at this point my brain > is fried and don't know where to look. Any pointers? > > If memory serves my I need to run fdisk MBR but am unsure if this > works with NT (with NTFS) and don't want to screw things up any > further than I already have. > >
Re: [expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)
Joeuse a dos or windows9x boot disc with fdisk on it and type: fdisk /mbr NT uses the same mbr bootstrap as dos and windows9x. Alan Joseph S Gardner wrote: > > Ok, after banging head on keyboard I've decided to ask for help. > > I tried installing 7.0-2 on a 6x85 MX 200 that already had NT on it. > I added a 3rd HD and dedicated it entirely to linux leaving the first > 2 alone (silly me) hoping to dual boot. > > Well all was going well until I went to configure X and when I > selected my monitor (Magnvox 17" with a Diamond Stealth ll S200) it > dumped bytes all over my lap forcing me to use the big red help > switch. The boot floppy that was created has some type of error on > it and it won't complete the boot and somehow or another the MBR on > the NT disk's are amuck now and I can't even reboot into that. > > I need to get the MBR back on the NT disks and at this point my brain > is fried and don't know where to look. Any pointers? > > If memory serves my I need to run fdisk MBR but am unsure if this > works with NT (with NTFS) and don't want to screw things up any > further than I already have. > > -- Joe Gardner > Handi Krafts > www.handi-krafts.com > > Linux is like a wigwam, > No windows, no gates, > and Apache inside > > Registered linux user #1696600 > ICQ # 68118000
Re: [expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)
Joseph S Gardner wrote: > Ok, after banging head on keyboard I've decided to ask for help. > > I tried installing 7.0-2 on a 6x85 MX 200 that already had NT on it. > I added a 3rd HD and dedicated it entirely to linux leaving the first > 2 alone (silly me) hoping to dual boot. > > Well all was going well until I went to configure X and when I > selected my monitor (Magnvox 17" with a Diamond Stealth ll S200) it > dumped bytes all over my lap forcing me to use the big red help > switch. The boot floppy that was created has some type of error on > it and it won't complete the boot and somehow or another the MBR on > the NT disk's are amuck now and I can't even reboot into that. > > I need to get the MBR back on the NT disks and at this point my brain > is fried and don't know where to look. Any pointers? > > If memory serves my I need to run fdisk MBR but am unsure if this > works with NT (with NTFS) and don't want to screw things up any > further than I already have. > > -- Joe Gardner > Handi Krafts > www.handi-krafts.com > > Linux is like a wigwam, > No windows, no gates, > and Apache inside > > Registered linux user #1696600 > ICQ # 68118000 All is not lost, yes, run a fdisk /MBR. That should bring back your NT loader. If this is a bit new, even with considerable "hacking" skills, I would play it safe. During install, make a floppy to boot to Linux boot point, such as /boot, this being where you created /boot on a /dev/hda,b,c?. Try this until you become comfortable editing files, such as lilo.conf...good luck. Craig begin:vcard n:Woods;Craig x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Celtic Pride, Inc.;Client/Server Technology adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:IT Consultant x-mozilla-cpt:;-29408 fn:Craig Woods end:vcard
[expert] 7.0-2 on a 6X86 MX (dual boot NT)
Ok, after banging head on keyboard I've decided to ask for help. I tried installing 7.0-2 on a 6x85 MX 200 that already had NT on it. I added a 3rd HD and dedicated it entirely to linux leaving the first 2 alone (silly me) hoping to dual boot. Well all was going well until I went to configure X and when I selected my monitor (Magnvox 17" with a Diamond Stealth ll S200) it dumped bytes all over my lap forcing me to use the big red help switch. The boot floppy that was created has some type of error on it and it won't complete the boot and somehow or another the MBR on the NT disk's are amuck now and I can't even reboot into that. I need to get the MBR back on the NT disks and at this point my brain is fried and don't know where to look. Any pointers? If memory serves my I need to run fdisk MBR but am unsure if this works with NT (with NTFS) and don't want to screw things up any further than I already have. -- Joe Gardner Handi Krafts www.handi-krafts.com Linux is like a wigwam, No windows, no gates, and Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ # 68118000
