I have got an 8.0 beta from cheapbytes, as I can't practically download an iso with a 56k modem and an isp who cuts the line every 2 hours. Now cheapbytes only supplied beta 2, whereas i believe beta 3 is out. Is there a url for downloading differences, or is an iso the only option? How is a guy to have something to complain about? ;-) -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't.