Re: [expert] 8.2 and Sony Vaio FX200
On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 14:55, Gary Dunn wrote: > On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 20:36, Alan wrote: > > On Friday 07 November 2036 03:21 am, Al Niessner wrote: > > > I have Mandrake 8.2 up and running on a twin P3 desktop and now my > > > laptop. The desktop went without a hitch because the disk was erased and > > > full installation was done. My laptop was much more difficult. To start > > > with, I had to use the usb.img kernel on floppy to get anywhere in the > > > install process. If I just ran the cd from the start, the install > > > program would simply vanish after the serial detection. Booting with the > > > usb kernel got me past that and to the upgrade. Things went smoothly > > > until I tried to recompile the kernel with acpi instead of apm. Found > > > out that the links in /etc/alternatives were broken. I had then pointing > > > to 3.0.1 which of course got upgraded to 3.0.4 but the by then the links > > > had been broken. I had to go back and manually but the links back in > > > /usr/bin and correct the ones I had in /etc/alternatives. So far, that > > > was the only glitch. > > > > > > Good work Mandrake. > > > > In order to get Linux to install on the Vaio, you need to pass "ide=0x180" to > > the kernel. They use a non-standard means of booting the cd-rom drive. It > > will go part of the way through the install and then forget where the cd-rom > > drive is at. > > > > This is not a Mandrake problem. It happens on any Linux distrobution. It also > > happens on every model of Vaio with a PCMCIA cdrom. > > > > I don't think this mobilie has an external cdrom. > > Check out http://www.blankslate.net/comp/vaio.php all about installing > Mandrake on a PCG-FX200 And of course look around > http://www.linux-laptop.net/ > > I have a PCG-SR7K, and with some help from the folks here I got LM8.2 > installed. It does require expert mode with that special command line, > expert noauto ide2=0x180,0x386. Last night I even got the PCMCIA card > services working. Now comes the wireless network card. > > I have read about installing Red Hat on a VAIO using a similar trick. > Perhaps it is not unique to LM, but I say the LM install should reconize > this hardware (it does, look in /var/log/messages) and take appropriate > action. Why make we VAIO folk feel unloved? > > > > until I tried to recompile the kernel with acpi instead of apm. > > Can you elaborate on this? I know that acpi is newer and better than > apm, and that's about all I know. I am surprised that LM8.2 does not > provide acpi support right off the cd. Can you write up exactly what you > did? > It has more to do with how the ACPI folks decided to distribute the patches more than anything. The ACPI code that comes with 2.4.18 is way out of date and is only a partial set -- it is missing the battery interface and support and other stuff. So, you have to go to sourceforge and get the most up to date patch and install it. At the time, the only patch available was for 2.4.17 and I was having problems back fitting it. Then there was the which version of the compiler to use problem (2.91.66, 2.95.3, 2.96, or 3.0.4). I ended up using 3.0.4, but that is after I got the most recent patch from sourceforge. Prior to that (i.e. what is shipped with Mandrake 8.2), the kernel build fails with macros and symbols already defined errors. I still do not have acpid or ospmd working with it yet, but it for lack of trying rather than anything technical. I would give you more detail, but it has been a while since I did it and things are a bit fuzzy now. As I remember it, it is straight forward if you are used to gcc, c, and the error messages they generate. If you get stuck, feel free to email me. Seeing an error again will help me to remember more clearly. Al Niessner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 and Sony Vaio FX200
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 20:36, Alan wrote: > On Friday 07 November 2036 03:21 am, Al Niessner wrote: > > I have Mandrake 8.2 up and running on a twin P3 desktop and now my > > laptop. The desktop went without a hitch because the disk was erased and > > full installation was done. My laptop was much more difficult. To start > > with, I had to use the usb.img kernel on floppy to get anywhere in the > > install process. If I just ran the cd from the start, the install > > program would simply vanish after the serial detection. Booting with the > > usb kernel got me past that and to the upgrade. Things went smoothly > > until I tried to recompile the kernel with acpi instead of apm. Found > > out that the links in /etc/alternatives were broken. I had then pointing > > to 3.0.1 which of course got upgraded to 3.0.4 but the by then the links > > had been broken. I had to go back and manually but the links back in > > /usr/bin and correct the ones I had in /etc/alternatives. So far, that > > was the only glitch. > > > > Good work Mandrake. > > In order to get Linux to install on the Vaio, you need to pass "ide=0x180" to > the kernel. They use a non-standard means of booting the cd-rom drive. It > will go part of the way through the install and then forget where the cd-rom > drive is at. > > This is not a Mandrake problem. It happens on any Linux distrobution. It also > happens on every model of Vaio with a PCMCIA cdrom. > I don't think this mobilie has an external cdrom. Check out http://www.blankslate.net/comp/vaio.php all about installing Mandrake on a PCG-FX200 And of course look around http://www.linux-laptop.net/ I have a PCG-SR7K, and with some help from the folks here I got LM8.2 installed. It does require expert mode with that special command line, expert noauto ide2=0x180,0x386. Last night I even got the PCMCIA card services working. Now comes the wireless network card. I have read about installing Red Hat on a VAIO using a similar trick. Perhaps it is not unique to LM, but I say the LM install should reconize this hardware (it does, look in /var/log/messages) and take appropriate action. Why make we VAIO folk feel unloved? > > until I tried to recompile the kernel with acpi instead of apm. Can you elaborate on this? I know that acpi is newer and better than apm, and that's about all I know. I am surprised that LM8.2 does not provide acpi support right off the cd. Can you write up exactly what you did? Thanks. Gary Dunn Open Slate Project Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 and Sony Vaio FX200
On Friday 07 November 2036 03:21 am, Al Niessner wrote: > I have Mandrake 8.2 up and running on a twin P3 desktop and now my > laptop. The desktop went without a hitch because the disk was erased and > full installation was done. My laptop was much more difficult. To start > with, I had to use the usb.img kernel on floppy to get anywhere in the > install process. If I just ran the cd from the start, the install > program would simply vanish after the serial detection. Booting with the > usb kernel got me past that and to the upgrade. Things went smoothly > until I tried to recompile the kernel with acpi instead of apm. Found > out that the links in /etc/alternatives were broken. I had then pointing > to 3.0.1 which of course got upgraded to 3.0.4 but the by then the links > had been broken. I had to go back and manually but the links back in > /usr/bin and correct the ones I had in /etc/alternatives. So far, that > was the only glitch. > > Good work Mandrake. In order to get Linux to install on the Vaio, you need to pass "ide=0x180" to the kernel. They use a non-standard means of booting the cd-rom drive. It will go part of the way through the install and then forget where the cd-rom drive is at. This is not a Mandrake problem. It happens on any Linux distrobution. It also happens on every model of Vaio with a PCMCIA cdrom. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 and Sony Vaio FX200 [OT}
Yeap, that was another glitch I did not notice until late yesterday. Seems as though those lost cdrom boots also moved me forward to the year 2036. It is fixed now though. Thanks for pointing it out though. Al Niessner On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 18:07, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Friday 07 November 2036 06:21 am, Al Niessner wrote: > > I have Mandrake 8.2 up and running on a twin P3 desktop and now my > > laptop. The desktop went without a hitch because the disk was erased and > > full installation was done. My laptop was much more difficult. To start > > with, I had to use the usb.img kernel on floppy to get anywhere in the > > install process. If I just ran the cd from the start, the install > > program would simply vanish after the serial detection. Booting with the > > usb kernel got me past that and to the upgrade. Things went smoothly > > until I tried to recompile the kernel with acpi instead of apm. Found > > out that the links in /etc/alternatives were broken. I had then pointing > > to 3.0.1 which of course got upgraded to 3.0.4 but the by then the links > > had been broken. I had to go back and manually but the links back in > > /usr/bin and correct the ones I had in /etc/alternatives. So far, that > > was the only glitch. > > > > Good work Mandrake. > > > > Al > > Al: > This probably isn't related to your problem, but either your date/time > settings are screwed up, or I've just had a very long nap. Since my beard > doesn't reach the floor, and KMail reports a time adjustment of +30349438 > from GMT, I think it's at your end. > -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 and Sony Vaio FX200 [OT}
On Friday 07 November 2036 06:21 am, Al Niessner wrote: > I have Mandrake 8.2 up and running on a twin P3 desktop and now my > laptop. The desktop went without a hitch because the disk was erased and > full installation was done. My laptop was much more difficult. To start > with, I had to use the usb.img kernel on floppy to get anywhere in the > install process. If I just ran the cd from the start, the install > program would simply vanish after the serial detection. Booting with the > usb kernel got me past that and to the upgrade. Things went smoothly > until I tried to recompile the kernel with acpi instead of apm. Found > out that the links in /etc/alternatives were broken. I had then pointing > to 3.0.1 which of course got upgraded to 3.0.4 but the by then the links > had been broken. I had to go back and manually but the links back in > /usr/bin and correct the ones I had in /etc/alternatives. So far, that > was the only glitch. > > Good work Mandrake. > > Al Al: This probably isn't related to your problem, but either your date/time settings are screwed up, or I've just had a very long nap. Since my beard doesn't reach the floor, and KMail reports a time adjustment of +30349438 from GMT, I think it's at your end. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 8.2 and Sony Vaio FX200
I have Mandrake 8.2 up and running on a twin P3 desktop and now my laptop. The desktop went without a hitch because the disk was erased and full installation was done. My laptop was much more difficult. To start with, I had to use the usb.img kernel on floppy to get anywhere in the install process. If I just ran the cd from the start, the install program would simply vanish after the serial detection. Booting with the usb kernel got me past that and to the upgrade. Things went smoothly until I tried to recompile the kernel with acpi instead of apm. Found out that the links in /etc/alternatives were broken. I had then pointing to 3.0.1 which of course got upgraded to 3.0.4 but the by then the links had been broken. I had to go back and manually but the links back in /usr/bin and correct the ones I had in /etc/alternatives. So far, that was the only glitch. Good work Mandrake. Al Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
