Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
On Saturday March 29 2003 10:33 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: In what way should one notice any enhancements with the multimedia kernel? What apps might I test/run to compare with the default kernel? praedor Audio recording, professional studio quality, multi channel. Search the recent cooker ML archive for the discussion. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
On Saturday March 29 2003 04:05 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: It can be done in the manner Tom used but I have a strong aversion to doing a force install. I prefer editing XF86Config-4, rpm -e the current nvidia rpms, rebooting the new kernel to init 3, rebuild and then install the nvidia rpms, edit again XF86Config-4 and then switch to init 5 where I am greeted by the nvidia splash screen. Charles Generally I'd agree with the aversion to --force (and --nodeps). In cases where your just replacing old packages with the same version numbers, --force just prevents getting the already installed error. Same as using --replacepkgs, --replacefiles, and --oldpackage. (man page). I use --force rarely, but sometimes it's very useful. I boot the new kernel and let X fail out of laziness ;) IE, removing the old nvidia rpms and booting to level 3. I took the time to disable that damn nvidia splash screen tho ;) Easily done with 'yanc', and if you also have 'nvclock' installed, you can overclock the card a little and get some even better glxgears FPS to brag about :) FWIW, my glxgears fps (1024x768x24) drop some when using the multimedia kernel, compared to Mdk's 'stock' kernel. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:44:23 -0800 Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need to do to use both kernels, or just the multimedia one? The nvidia driver will only work with the kernel for which it was built. You can still use both kernels but you will need to edit your X86Conf-4 each time you wish to boot to the other kernel. Charles -- Fortune's real live weird band names #529: Playdough Fish - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.13mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
On Saturday 29 March 2003 02:44 am, Rob Blomquist wrote: I installed 9.1 and the NVidia video card drivers for the standard kernel, and I find that I cannot boot the mm kernel for lack of proper driver registration for my NVidia card. What do I need to do to use both kernels, or just the multimedia one? You will likely need to build the nvidia drivers for the new kernel. Every time I add or rebuild a kernel, even if it is essentially the same as my previous kernel with just an option or two changed, the NVidia driver needs to be rebuilt for that kernel. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
On Saturday March 29 2003 03:56 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Saturday 29 March 2003 02:44 am, Rob Blomquist wrote: I installed 9.1 and the NVidia video card drivers for the standard kernel, and I find that I cannot boot the mm kernel for lack of proper driver registration for my NVidia card. What do I need to do to use both kernels, or just the multimedia one? You will likely need to build the nvidia drivers for the new kernel. Every time I add or rebuild a kernel, even if it is essentially the same as my previous kernel with just an option or two changed, the NVidia driver needs to be rebuilt for that kernel. praedor Two weeks ago I installed the nvidia driver on 9.1. Just to test, they're removed as of yesterday. I had both the 'regular' kernel, and the multimedia one installed. And yes, the nvidia src.rpms had to be built against each new kernel. I boot directly to KDE. After -ivh 'ing a new MM kernel (there were several updates during that period), and -Uvh 'ing the kernel-source for it, I'd shut down and reboot. Of course X would fail to start, and drop me to a level 3 prompt. I'd log in as root, rebuild the nvidia src.rpms again, and --force those newly built rpms in on top of the old ones. Reboot, and all was well again. Caution tho, any of 9.1's zippy performance was lost while using the proprietary drivers. Now that I'm back to using the XFree driver, and the nvidia taints are gone, the system's zippy again ;) But to tell the truth, the MM kernel doesn't add any noticible zip. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
On Saturday 29 March 2003 12:08 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday March 29 2003 03:56 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Saturday 29 March 2003 02:44 am, Rob Blomquist wrote: I installed 9.1 and the NVidia video card drivers for the standard kernel, and I find that I cannot boot the mm kernel for lack of proper driver registration for my NVidia card. [...] You will likely need to build the nvidia drivers for the new kernel. Every time I add or rebuild a kernel, even if it is essentially the same as my previous kernel with just an option or two changed, the NVidia driver needs to be rebuilt for that kernel. praedor Two weeks ago I installed the nvidia driver on 9.1. Just to test, they're removed as of yesterday. I had both the 'regular' kernel, and the multimedia one installed. And yes, the nvidia src.rpms had to be built against each new kernel. [...] Caution tho, any of 9.1's zippy performance was lost while using the proprietary drivers. Now that I'm back to using the XFree driver, and the nvidia taints are gone, the system's zippy again ;) But to tell the truth, the MM kernel doesn't add any noticible zip. Hmmm. I don't notice a difference between the default installed nvidia driver and the commercial version (except for 3D acceleration not existing in the OSS version, of course). I just downloaded, built, and installed the multimedia kernel, then rebuilt the nvidia src rpms and all is working fine again. I don't notice any real difference in zippiness one way or another except for a couple hundred FPS added to my glxgears performance (~6700 FPS default size, ~900 fullscreen at 1024x768 vs ~6400 FPS and ~600-700 FPS respectively). The difference is not likely the kernel but instead my upgrading from the NVidia 3x version to the 4x (latest) version. In what way should one notice any enhancements with the multimedia kernel? What apps might I test/run to compare with the default kernel? praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 07:25, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:44:23 -0800 Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need to do to use both kernels, or just the multimedia one? The nvidia driver will only work with the kernel for which it was built. You can still use both kernels but you will need to edit your X86Conf-4 each time you wish to boot to the other kernel. Charles Charles Since I don't own any Nvidia video cards I'm curious on one thing. Rebuilding for each kernel makes sense. But the editing the XF86Config file throws me a bit... What is it that makes this necessary? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 29 March 2003 07:53 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 07:25, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:44:23 -0800 Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need to do to use both kernels, or just the multimedia one? The nvidia driver will only work with the kernel for which it was built. You can still use both kernels but you will need to edit your X86Conf-4 each time you wish to boot to the other kernel. [...] Since I don't own any Nvidia video cards I'm curious on one thing. Rebuilding for each kernel makes sense. But the editing the XF86Config file throws me a bit... What is it that makes this necessary? I have never had to edit my XF86Config-4 file but the initial time after installing my NVidia card. Since then, I just use the same one (I saved a copy of the NVidia XF86Config-4 file into my home directory so I don't have to mess with it again upon installing a new distro version, etc, just copy it to /etc/X11). The only thing I have ever had to do is rebuild the NVidia driver rpms for any new kernel I install or rebuild. Then just do an 'rpm - -ivh NVidia rpms'. Reboot and that's it. praedor -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+he+/wDUPEkSvRHERAq9hAJ914KNW6tvIUpLRqsdSJYbpysK5XwCfTfOy KEH8fW4G7NN48VvNsROcZ3A= =Dhfi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
On 29 Mar 2003 07:53:17 -0500 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I don't own any Nvidia video cards I'm curious on one thing. Rebuilding for each kernel makes sense. But the editing the XF86Config file throws me a bit... What is it that makes this necessary? If using the nvidia drivers rather than the stock nv driver Load glx is added to the module config section of XF86Config-4 by the installation of of the NVIDIA_GLX rpm but the driver designation in said file must still be manually changed from nv to Nvidia Both entries are necessary for X to work with the nvidia drivers. It can be done in the manner Tom used but I have a strong aversion to doing a force install. I prefer editing XF86Config-4, rpm -e the current nvidia rpms, rebooting the new kernel to init 3, rebuild and then install the nvidia rpms, edit again XF86Config-4 and then switch to init 5 where I am greeted by the nvidia splash screen. Charles -- Overdrawn? But I still have checks left! - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.13mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] 9.1, NVidia video and the Multimedia kernel
I installed 9.1 and the NVidia video card drivers for the standard kernel, and I find that I cannot boot the mm kernel for lack of proper driver registration for my NVidia card. What do I need to do to use both kernels, or just the multimedia one? Rob -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA Linux: For the poeple, by the people. True democracy in computing. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
