Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
On Wed, 07 Jun 2000, you wrote: "Dan Bélisle" wrote: Hi ! I have downloaded the brand new 7.1 and unfortunately like it predecessor my ATA/66 (HPT366) disk doesn't work !! At the IDE detection at the begining of the installation, the installation is stoped (stone) at this point. So, i have try too the SUSE 6.4 and he work very well !! Why is the problem ? Isn't my first e-mail on that. Thanks everyone ! Danny. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Pentium code tightens timing requirements on the drives themselves and on the chipsets on the motherboards as well. 386 code allows much greater variance from specifications. If your drive is Western Digital or your motherboard is one of several chipsets made to accommodate the WD drive and its weird timing and the fact that it blows off the CRC, then you have a problem with hardware and will be bound by it to distros who use 386 code. That is the difference--Mandrake is pushing the envelope in the direction of rather exact conformance to specifications on the part of the hardware, while compiling to maximize processor performance, and a lot of sloppy hardware has been built assuming the laxity of the 386 code which is used in the dominant desktop system. Now those same folks are saying things like "we don't support linux" when they get tech calls. The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard right the first time. Civileme -- If he has WesternDigital drives, there is a floppydisk that goes with those drives. He must use the floppy to set the drives in UDMA66 mode. They won't work otherwise. BTW I am running NT4.0 on a WD20.5 G HDF and Linux Mandrake 7.0-2 on a 15.5 G as HDF and booting off of the HDE drive directly into linux.These drives are on the IDE3 port. ttyl, Don
Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
What i don't understand is that Denis from mandrake tell me that his test with the HTP366 is good and work. But, if the patch is not apply, how he can work for his and not for me ? I have already read the UDMA66 Howto, but is not working... Thanks again ! Danny. From: "M Thompson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1 Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 17:14:55 GMT The Mandrake kernel doesn't ship with the IDE patch included. Suse developed the patch but it is still somewhat buggy. The other distros still hesitate to use it. Check out this link: http://linux.nf/stepbystep.htm click on the Ultra66 link. Those links will explain how to install Linux onto a drive that's connected to an ATA66 controller. Hope that helps, Matt From: "Dan Bélisle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1 Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 05:37:27 PDT Hi ! My drive is a Quantum Fireball KX 13.6gig 7200Rpm. My motherboard is a Soyo 6BA +IV with the onboard HPT366 controller. And i say again, he work very well with SUSE 6.4 ! what's wrong ? Thanks again !! Danny. From: Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:16:59 -0800 "Dan Bélisle" wrote: Hi ! I have downloaded the brand new 7.1 and unfortunately like it predecessor my ATA/66 (HPT366) disk doesn't work !! At the IDE detection at the begining of the installation, the installation is stoped (stone) at this point. So, i have try too the SUSE 6.4 and he work very well !! Why is the problem ? Isn't my first e-mail on that. Thanks everyone ! Danny. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Pentium code tightens timing requirements on the drives themselves and on the chipsets on the motherboards as well. 386 code allows much greater variance from specifications. If your drive is Western Digital or your motherboard is one of several chipsets made to accommodate the WD drive and its weird timing and the fact that it blows off the CRC, then you have a problem with hardware and will be bound by it to distros who use 386 code. That is the difference--Mandrake is pushing the envelope in the direction of rather exact conformance to specifications on the part of the hardware, while compiling to maximize processor performance, and a lot of sloppy hardware has been built assuming the laxity of the 386 code which is used in the dominant desktop system. Now those same folks are saying things like "we don't support linux" when they get tech calls. The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard right the first time. Civileme Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
Hi ! My drive is a Quantum Fireball KX 7200rpm 13.6gig. Danny. From: Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:05:49 -0700 On Wed, 07 Jun 2000, you wrote: "Dan Bélisle" wrote: Hi ! I have downloaded the brand new 7.1 and unfortunately like it predecessor my ATA/66 (HPT366) disk doesn't work !! At the IDE detection at the begining of the installation, the installation is stoped (stone) at this point. So, i have try too the SUSE 6.4 and he work very well !! Why is the problem ? Isn't my first e-mail on that. Thanks everyone ! Danny. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Pentium code tightens timing requirements on the drives themselves and on the chipsets on the motherboards as well. 386 code allows much greater variance from specifications. If your drive is Western Digital or your motherboard is one of several chipsets made to accommodate the WD drive and its weird timing and the fact that it blows off the CRC, then you have a problem with hardware and will be bound by it to distros who use 386 code. That is the difference--Mandrake is pushing the envelope in the direction of rather exact conformance to specifications on the part of the hardware, while compiling to maximize processor performance, and a lot of sloppy hardware has been built assuming the laxity of the 386 code which is used in the dominant desktop system. Now those same folks are saying things like "we don't support linux" when they get tech calls. The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard right the first time. Civileme -- If he has WesternDigital drives, there is a floppydisk that goes with those drives. He must use the floppy to set the drives in UDMA66 mode. They won't work otherwise. BTW I am running NT4.0 on a WD20.5 G HDF and Linux Mandrake 7.0-2 on a 15.5 G as HDF and booting off of the HDE drive directly into linux.These drives are on the IDE3 port. ttyl, Don Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
Thank you !! Danny. From: "M Thompson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1 Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 17:14:55 GMT The Mandrake kernel doesn't ship with the IDE patch included. Suse developed the patch but it is still somewhat buggy. The other distros still hesitate to use it. Check out this link: http://linux.nf/stepbystep.htm click on the Ultra66 link. Those links will explain how to install Linux onto a drive that's connected to an ATA66 controller. Hope that helps, Matt From: "Dan Bélisle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1 Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 05:37:27 PDT Hi ! My drive is a Quantum Fireball KX 13.6gig 7200Rpm. My motherboard is a Soyo 6BA +IV with the onboard HPT366 controller. And i say again, he work very well with SUSE 6.4 ! what's wrong ? Thanks again !! Danny. From: Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:16:59 -0800 "Dan Bélisle" wrote: Hi ! I have downloaded the brand new 7.1 and unfortunately like it predecessor my ATA/66 (HPT366) disk doesn't work !! At the IDE detection at the begining of the installation, the installation is stoped (stone) at this point. So, i have try too the SUSE 6.4 and he work very well !! Why is the problem ? Isn't my first e-mail on that. Thanks everyone ! Danny. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Pentium code tightens timing requirements on the drives themselves and on the chipsets on the motherboards as well. 386 code allows much greater variance from specifications. If your drive is Western Digital or your motherboard is one of several chipsets made to accommodate the WD drive and its weird timing and the fact that it blows off the CRC, then you have a problem with hardware and will be bound by it to distros who use 386 code. That is the difference--Mandrake is pushing the envelope in the direction of rather exact conformance to specifications on the part of the hardware, while compiling to maximize processor performance, and a lot of sloppy hardware has been built assuming the laxity of the 386 code which is used in the dominant desktop system. Now those same folks are saying things like "we don't support linux" when they get tech calls. The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard right the first time. Civileme Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
Hi ! My drive is a Quantum Fireball KX 13.6gig 7200Rpm. My motherboard is a Soyo 6BA +IV with the onboard HPT366 controller. And i say again, he work very well with SUSE 6.4 ! what's wrong ? Thanks again !! Danny. From: Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:16:59 -0800 "Dan Bélisle" wrote: Hi ! I have downloaded the brand new 7.1 and unfortunately like it predecessor my ATA/66 (HPT366) disk doesn't work !! At the IDE detection at the begining of the installation, the installation is stoped (stone) at this point. So, i have try too the SUSE 6.4 and he work very well !! Why is the problem ? Isn't my first e-mail on that. Thanks everyone ! Danny. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Pentium code tightens timing requirements on the drives themselves and on the chipsets on the motherboards as well. 386 code allows much greater variance from specifications. If your drive is Western Digital or your motherboard is one of several chipsets made to accommodate the WD drive and its weird timing and the fact that it blows off the CRC, then you have a problem with hardware and will be bound by it to distros who use 386 code. That is the difference--Mandrake is pushing the envelope in the direction of rather exact conformance to specifications on the part of the hardware, while compiling to maximize processor performance, and a lot of sloppy hardware has been built assuming the laxity of the 386 code which is used in the dominant desktop system. Now those same folks are saying things like "we don't support linux" when they get tech calls. The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard right the first time. Civileme Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 18:16 -0800, Civileme wrote: The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard right the first time. You nailed it down to the point! Some yrs before the same people said "We don't support OS/2" and got away with it. wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
The Mandrake kernel doesn't ship with the IDE patch included. Suse developed the patch but it is still somewhat buggy. The other distros still hesitate to use it. Check out this link: http://linux.nf/stepbystep.htm click on the Ultra66 link. Those links will explain how to install Linux onto a drive that's connected to an ATA66 controller. Hope that helps, Matt From: "Dan Bélisle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1 Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 05:37:27 PDT Hi ! My drive is a Quantum Fireball KX 13.6gig 7200Rpm. My motherboard is a Soyo 6BA +IV with the onboard HPT366 controller. And i say again, he work very well with SUSE 6.4 ! what's wrong ? Thanks again !! Danny. From: Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:16:59 -0800 "Dan Bélisle" wrote: Hi ! I have downloaded the brand new 7.1 and unfortunately like it predecessor my ATA/66 (HPT366) disk doesn't work !! At the IDE detection at the begining of the installation, the installation is stoped (stone) at this point. So, i have try too the SUSE 6.4 and he work very well !! Why is the problem ? Isn't my first e-mail on that. Thanks everyone ! Danny. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Pentium code tightens timing requirements on the drives themselves and on the chipsets on the motherboards as well. 386 code allows much greater variance from specifications. If your drive is Western Digital or your motherboard is one of several chipsets made to accommodate the WD drive and its weird timing and the fact that it blows off the CRC, then you have a problem with hardware and will be bound by it to distros who use 386 code. That is the difference--Mandrake is pushing the envelope in the direction of rather exact conformance to specifications on the part of the hardware, while compiling to maximize processor performance, and a lot of sloppy hardware has been built assuming the laxity of the 386 code which is used in the dominant desktop system. Now those same folks are saying things like "we don't support linux" when they get tech calls. The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard right the first time. Civileme Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
Hi ! I have downloaded the brand new 7.1 and unfortunately like it predecessor my ATA/66 (HPT366) disk doesn't work !! At the IDE detection at the begining of the installation, the installation is stoped (stone) at this point. So, i have try too the SUSE 6.4 and he work very well !! Why is the problem ? Isn't my first e-mail on that. Thanks everyone ! Danny. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
"Dan Bélisle" wrote: Hi ! I have downloaded the brand new 7.1 and unfortunately like it predecessor my ATA/66 (HPT366) disk doesn't work !! At the IDE detection at the begining of the installation, the installation is stoped (stone) at this point. So, i have try too the SUSE 6.4 and he work very well !! Why is the problem ? Isn't my first e-mail on that. Thanks everyone ! Danny. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Pentium code tightens timing requirements on the drives themselves and on the chipsets on the motherboards as well. 386 code allows much greater variance from specifications. If your drive is Western Digital or your motherboard is one of several chipsets made to accommodate the WD drive and its weird timing and the fact that it blows off the CRC, then you have a problem with hardware and will be bound by it to distros who use 386 code. That is the difference--Mandrake is pushing the envelope in the direction of rather exact conformance to specifications on the part of the hardware, while compiling to maximize processor performance, and a lot of sloppy hardware has been built assuming the laxity of the 386 code which is used in the dominant desktop system. Now those same folks are saying things like "we don't support linux" when they get tech calls. The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard right the first time. Civileme
