Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
So sprach skidley am Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 08:26:09PM -0400: It's not that I don't like the kernel enhancements and bugfixes done by the mdk people it's just I don't like the kernel being in .rpm form I prefer a tarball so I know what I'm getting I wouldn't think of installing a kernel in an rpm package but yer forced too when ya install the system. I like to compile the source myself so i guess the .src.rpm isn't so bad but I'm still partial to tarballs :) That's your opinion, and I really respect that. But I myself like it much more to be able to have some sort of package management available. This holds true for normal packages, but also for the kernel RPM. There isn't any mystic involved in a kernel RPM, so a rpm -qpi kernel.rpm will tell you exactly where everything is going to end. Now with tarballs I often have a hard time figuring out where everything is placed after a make install. But that's just me, I suppose. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx GnuPG ID: 59F6A6F5 FP: DC8AFA56C492EE6058D5 BAA62EEE3AD559F6A6F5 ICQ:7328191 Uptime: 1 day 22 hours 51 minutes Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
holds true for normal packages, but also for the kernel RPM. There isn't any mystic involved in a kernel RPM, so a rpm -qpi kernel.rpm will tell you exactly where everything is going to end. Now with tarballs I often have a hard time figuring out where everything is placed after a make install. Alexander...maybe it's just my ignorance when it comes to rpms but my "gripe" about them is that I can't direct where those files are going. Am I wrong here? For instance, when it comes to kernel, I'd like to open it up in my home user directory and do a patch compile there, keeping it completely separate from the operational system and even the operational source. Is there a way to do that? Cheers --- Larry Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
rpm --root $HOME ... allows you to put it anywhere you want. If you intend to do everything as user, you probably should consider adding "--dbpath" option so that you don't mix your system rpm database. Larry Marshall wrote: Alexander...maybe it's just my ignorance when it comes to rpms but my "gripe" about them is that I can't direct where those files are going. Am I wrong here? For instance, when it comes to kernel, I'd like to open it up in my home user directory and do a patch compile there, keeping it completely separate from the operational system and even the operational source. Is there a way to do that? Cheers --- Larry Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
rpm --root $HOME ... allows you to put it anywhere you want. If you intend to do everything as user, Thanks Alex, this is one that I missed and it sure changes my view of rpms. you probably should consider adding "--dbpath" option so that you don't mix your system rpm database. Mostly I just like testing separately but I typically delete the stuff and install in the right place once I'm happy with the result. Thanks again. Cheers --- Larry Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
Alexander Skwar Grab the Kernel srpm and install it...it should have everythign you need 100% correct! the srpm installs the source just as if you used the tarball. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Alex Yung wrote: I need to recompile the kernel and I would like build it as an rpm file. Does anyone have any suggestion where it is? Thanks. I hate kernel rpms and think thye shouln't exist as rpm, it sucks, get the tarball and do a "real" kernel compile. -- Chad Y. Registered Linux User #195191 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
So sprach skidley am Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 02:44:02PM -0400: I hate kernel rpms and think thye shouln't exist as rpm, it sucks, get the tarball and do a "real" kernel compile. Any particular reason why you don't like the enhancements and bugfixes done by the Mdk people? Also, what's bad about using a compiled kernel that's also used by a lot of other people, and thus may create more bugreports? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx GnuPG ID: 59F6A6F5 FP: DC8AFA56C492EE6058D5 BAA62EEE3AD559F6A6F5 ICQ:7328191 Uptime: 5 days 7 hours 16 minutes Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach skidley am Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 02:44:02PM -0400: I hate kernel rpms and think thye shouln't exist as rpm, it sucks, get the tarball and do a "real" kernel compile. Any particular reason why you don't like the enhancements and bugfixes done Alexander, I'm not the guy you're asking but I feel the same way. Kernel hacking shouldn't be done in the normal workspace and yet with rpm distribution you don't much control over where the source actually ends up. I don't know how much Mandrake can take credit or blame for the existence of rpms though. by the Mdk people? Also, what's bad about using a compiled kernel that's also used by a lot of other people, and thus may create more bugreports? This certainly eliminates the need for kernel source code but I'm not sure it's too relevant. Most people grab for the kernel source when the distributed kernel doesn't function, or where they know they can optimize their kernel for their particular hardware. Cheers --- Larry Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
There is nothing wrong with the MDK kernel. I have to recompile the kernel because of the WinModem in my boss' laptop. If you follow up on the WinModem HOWTO, it suggested the kernel re-compilation. If I want to get myself fire, I would suggest what sprach skidley said. Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach skidley am Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 02:44:02PM -0400: I hate kernel rpms and think thye shouln't exist as rpm, it sucks, get the tarball and do a "real" kernel compile. Any particular reason why you don't like the enhancements and bugfixes done by the Mdk people? Also, what's bad about using a compiled kernel that's also used by a lot of other people, and thus may create more bugreports? Alexander Skwar Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach skidley am Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 02:44:02PM -0400: I hate kernel rpms and think thye shouln't exist as rpm, it sucks, get the tarball and do a "real" kernel compile. Any particular reason why you don't like the enhancements and bugfixes done by the Mdk people? Also, what's bad about using a compiled kernel that's also used by a lot of other people, and thus may create more bugreports? Alexander Skwar It's not that I don't like the kernel enhancements and bugfixes done by the mdk people it's just I don't like the kernel being in .rpm form I prefer a tarball so I know what I'm getting I wouldn't think of installing a kernel in an rpm package but yer forced too when ya install the system. I like to compile the source myself so i guess the .src.rpm isn't so bad but I'm still partial to tarballs :) -- Chad Y. Registered Linux User #195191 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:57, you wrote: There is nothing wrong with the MDK kernel. I have to recompile the kernel because of the WinModem in my boss' laptop. If you follow up on the WinModem HOWTO, it suggested the kernel re-compilation. If I want to get myself fire, I would suggest what sprach skidley said. Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach skidley am Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 02:44:02PM -0400: I hate kernel rpms and think thye shouln't exist as rpm, it sucks, get the tarball and do a "real" kernel compile. Any particular reason why you don't like the enhancements and bugfixes done by the Mdk people? Also, what's bad about using a compiled kernel that's also used by a lot of other people, and thus may create more bugreports? Alexander Skwar Grab the Kernel srpm and install it...it should have everythign you need -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjofDD4ACgkQlU43rLZfkqv2nwCfQEqMrduaHXE8W/PnltE9XDkg KycAn1Jj43K2po94COje4AHfDCt4Ifsq =Da0C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
Thanks Andrew. I was under the impression that installing the kernel source would also include the SPEC file. This is how Debian works. Thanks again. On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Andrew George wrote: On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:57, you wrote: There is nothing wrong with the MDK kernel. I have to recompile the kernel because of the WinModem in my boss' laptop. If you follow up on the WinModem HOWTO, it suggested the kernel re-compilation. If I want to get myself fire, I would suggest what sprach skidley said. Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach skidley am Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 02:44:02PM -0400: I hate kernel rpms and think thye shouln't exist as rpm, it sucks, get the tarball and do a "real" kernel compile. Any particular reason why you don't like the enhancements and bugfixes done by the Mdk people? Also, what's bad about using a compiled kernel that's also used by a lot of other people, and thus may create more bugreports? Alexander Skwar Grab the Kernel srpm and install it...it should have everythign you need Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Any pointer to where the kernel SPEC file is?
/usr/share/doc/kernel-2.2.17/kernel-2.2.17-21mdk-i586.config /usr/share/doc/kernel-smp-2.2.17/kernel-2.2.17-21mdk-i586-smp.config Alex Yung wrote: Thanks Andrew. I was under the impression that installing the kernel source would also include the SPEC file. This is how Debian works. Thanks again. On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Andrew George wrote: On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:57, you wrote: There is nothing wrong with the MDK kernel. I have to recompile the kernel because of the WinModem in my boss' laptop. If you follow up on the WinModem HOWTO, it suggested the kernel re-compilation. If I want to get myself fire, I would suggest what sprach skidley said. Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach skidley am Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 02:44:02PM -0400: I hate kernel rpms and think thye shouln't exist as rpm, it sucks, get the tarball and do a "real" kernel compile. Any particular reason why you don't like the enhancements and bugfixes done by the Mdk people? Also, what's bad about using a compiled kernel that's also used by a lot of other people, and thus may create more bugreports? Alexander Skwar Grab the Kernel srpm and install it...it should have everythign you need Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- === "... all thoughts of selfish desire, ill-will, hatred and violence are the result of a lack of wisdom ... " - Buddha For an awsome fantasy role playing game checkout: http://members.xoom.com/Lycadican === Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
